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| 03:37:41 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Wed Jul 04 01:46:09 GMT 2012 |
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| 03:38:21 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Wed Jul 04 01:46:09 GMT 2012 |
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| 03:39:52 | raptor | !BFlogbot |
| 03:39:58 | raptor | BFLogbot |
| 03:39:58 | BFLogBot | I'm a real boy.... I think? |
| 03:40:06 | raptor | yay, you're back! |
| 03:40:14 | raptor | !sam686 |
| 03:40:14 | BFLogBot | Master Bughunter |
| 03:40:28 | raptor | !sam686 |
| 03:40:28 | BFLogBot | Master Bughunter |
| 03:41:29 | sam686 | oh didn't know I have an automatic pm on !sam686 left on with my IRC client.. |
| 03:43:56 | raptor | that's funny.. |
| 03:50:29 | amgine1234567890 | you know oyu can imput commands after you die and are on teh press a key to repawn key |
| 03:50:41 | raptor | yes |
| 03:50:47 | amgine1234567890 | if you were alreasy typing osmthing |
| 03:50:49 | raptor | does it mess anything up? |
| 03:50:51 | amgine1234567890 | kk |
| 03:51:10 | amgine1234567890 | i got a bug to occur once but i cant seem to dup it hmm=p |
| 03:51:22 | raptor | did it have to do with /idle? |
| 03:51:31 | raptor | because we found some bugs with that last night |
| 03:51:53 | amgine1234567890 | yeah like the black scree nof doom idle problem? |
| 03:52:00 | raptor | haha, yes |
| 03:52:01 | amgine1234567890 | found that one |
| 04:06:51 | sam686 | the master server still can't read the database.. |
| 04:07:04 | sam686 | wrong pasword? |
| 04:07:25 | raptor | uhh |
| 04:07:27 | raptor | checking... |
| 04:07:32 | raptor | which database? |
| 04:08:17 | sam686 | the one at bitfighter/master/master.ini |
| 04:08:44 | sam686 | mysql for password authentication, and writing to game stats |
| 04:09:17 | raptor | argh |
| 04:09:25 | raptor | it uses one password for both? |
| 04:09:41 | sam686 | i guess... |
| 04:10:02 | sam686 | but one mysql user can be setup to read 2 databases.. |
| 04:10:40 | raptor | ok |
| 04:10:45 | raptor | i think i fixed it... |
| 04:10:53 | raptor | wait 10 seconds for the INI to refresh... |
| 04:12:13 | sam686 | i am playing on 017 by the way |
| 04:12:17 | raptor | i restarted master in case... |
| 04:12:19 | raptor | ok |
| 04:13:27 | raptor | ok working now |
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| 04:24:57 | sam686 | good, now the game reports is working now.. http://bitfighter.org/stats/ |
| 04:26:23 | raptor | screenshots are working! |
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| 04:39:29 | raptor | ok, i think i'm done with the server for tonight... |
| 04:40:39 | sam686 | burst can't destroy cores? on 017? |
| 04:40:47 | raptor | uhh... |
| 04:40:54 | raptor | i think it only hits one panel at a time |
| 04:41:24 | sam686 | I see a dumb player trying to destroy core with only burst (the last panel and really low panel health |
| 04:43:57 | raptor | uh oh sam686 |
| 04:44:02 | raptor | can you turn off denyhosts |
| 04:44:09 | raptor | service denyhosts stop |
| 04:44:14 | raptor | i hope you are still logged in... |
| 04:44:17 | raptor | i can't anymore.. |
| 04:44:46 | sam686 | i wasn't logged in, but just logged in ok now |
| 04:45:17 | sam686 | doing service denyhost stop command |
| 04:45:31 | sam686 | done |
| 04:45:39 | raptor | ok |
| 04:45:54 | raptor | can you look in the file /etc/hosts.deny |
| 04:45:58 | raptor | for a 69.169... |
| 04:46:02 | raptor | and remove that line? |
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| 04:46:45 | sam686 | ok |
| 04:47:48 | sam686 | line mostly removed to a points of unreadable ip address |
| 04:48:11 | raptor | yay i'm in! |
| 04:48:13 | raptor | thanks! |
| 04:50:44 | sam686 | maybe ssh on a different port number.. |
| 04:51:10 | sam686 | a lot of hacks explots on linux servers starts with a weak ssh password or mis-configured or something.. |
| 04:52:15 | sam686 | I remembered some of Zoomber's vps servers get hacked simply because of weak passwords.. |
| 04:54:28 | raptor | hmm |
| 04:54:43 | raptor | i'm off to bed, i'll probably change stuff tomorrow... |
| 04:54:47 | sam686 | ok |
| 04:55:06 | amgine1234567890 | hi sam |
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| 04:55:18 | sam686 | hi |
| 04:55:37 | amgine1234567890 | first time ive seen you in a while and your not afk Xd |
| 04:56:04 | amgine1234567890 | get the site problems fixed |
| 04:56:12 | amgine1234567890 | ? |
| 04:56:13 | | BFLogBot Commit: 6e5725f36973 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix bug -- when testing level in editor, it loaded saved version, rather than version in editor |
| 04:56:15 | | BFLogBot Commit: af542199c5b9 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Break apart level saving a little |
| 04:56:16 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4dd6305472d0 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Ok, so it wasn't actually a bug. But I fixed it anyway! |
| 04:56:18 | | BFLogBot Commit: 8b90ecead089 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge |
| 06:33:14 | amgine1234567890 | spam spam spam hi afk people XD spam spam spam |
| 06:58:44 | amgine1234567890 | good night |
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| 16:09:20 | raptor | hi sam686 are you around? |
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| 19:34:00 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Wed Jul 04 01:46:09 GMT 2012 |
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| 19:48:11 | | BFLogBot Commit: e0c1e8f7b47c | Author: watusimoto | Message: Reduce magic numbers, formatting, etc. |
| 19:48:12 | | BFLogBot Commit: 856e87b4e733 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Correctly report simulated lag/loss on diagnostics screen (didn't work when params set in-game with /lag) |
| 19:48:14 | | BFLogBot Commit: a172205044aa | Author: watusimoto | Message: Whitespace |
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| 20:37:46 | raptor | heelo! |
| 20:37:51 | raptor | hello |
| 20:40:42 | raptor | oh yay, i can log into bitfighter.org again.. |
| 20:46:14 | Watusimoto | bitfighter.org was down earlier |
| 20:46:20 | Watusimoto | ssh not answering, server down |
| 20:46:25 | Watusimoto | didnt check the website |
| 20:46:33 | Watusimoto | fixed it by restarting the server |
| 20:46:44 | raptor | yes I saw the restart... |
| 20:47:20 | raptor | did i ever set up your account? |
| 20:47:45 | Watusimoto | no |
| 20:47:56 | Watusimoto | well, if you did you didn;t tell me :-) |
| 20:48:20 | Watusimoto | I'm probably the only one who can;t get into my own server :-) |
| 20:49:48 | raptor | sent you a PM.. |
| 21:20:46 | Watusimoto | I tried to reproduce the teleport issue... no luck |
| 21:20:52 | Watusimoto | but I did fix th objective arrows |
| 21:21:05 | raptor | hooray! |
| 21:22:18 | Watusimoto | actually, I should probably actually test retrieve :-) |
| 21:22:37 | raptor | yeah, retrieve was crazy |
| 21:22:50 | raptor | like all the objects were offset at various locations... |
| 21:23:04 | Watusimoto | I fixd the issue with soccer, same symptoms, and I think it will fix everything |
| 21:24:00 | Watusimoto | arrows point right at flags now |
| 21:24:15 | raptor | great! |
| 21:24:18 | Watusimoto | did you fix case 7? |
| 21:24:41 | raptor | no... i got half way before i found that i need to keep track of the velocity and angle separatly |
| 21:24:52 | | BFLogBot Commit: e2acd0bbd466 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Magic number |
| 21:24:53 | Watusimoto | ok, so I shouldn't touch that one |
| 21:24:54 | | BFLogBot Commit: c2d0f2c98c6c | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix objective arrows |
| 21:25:18 | Watusimoto | ah, ha... I thought it might be something like that |
| 21:25:38 | Watusimoto | once vel passes some threshold, it figures its going the wrong way |
| 21:25:44 | raptor | yes |
| 21:25:59 | Watusimoto | ugh... idle bugs |
| 21:26:37 | Watusimoto | where can I get levels ColdStorage and Nascar? |
| 21:26:48 | raptor | sam test server in 017 |
| 21:27:00 | Watusimoto | and /download them? |
| 21:27:08 | raptor | /getmap |
| 21:27:18 | raptor | yes, sam allows it |
| 21:27:58 | Watusimoto | do you know if that energy bug exists in 017? |
| 21:28:05 | raptor | it doesn't |
| 21:28:13 | raptor | i tested all of them on the same levels |
| 21:28:13 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 21:28:21 | Watusimoto | I'll take a look at that one now |
| 21:29:52 | raptor | ok, i'll be back in a few |
| 21:32:50 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 21:50:44 | raptor | back |
| 21:58:10 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Hey guys, i heard you sorted your server? is all resolved now and secured up? |
| 22:00:37 | raptor | hi CrazyLinuxNerd, we got the new server set up - and it's at least as strong as the old :) |
| 22:00:49 | raptor | iptables are set up correctly this time... |
| 22:01:05 | CrazyLinuxNerd | good to know :-) did you sort out SELinux? |
| 22:01:21 | raptor | nope, not yet - haven't had the time yet |
| 22:02:11 | Watusimoto | hey raptor, could not reproduce the energy issue on either level |
| 22:02:21 | raptor | you have to be on a server... |
| 22:02:24 | CrazyLinuxNerd | raptor: ok fair enough :-) |
| 22:02:38 | Watusimoto | ah, like one with a delay? |
| 22:03:04 | raptor | yeah, let me set one up on master... |
| 22:03:17 | Watusimoto | let me try local first, with /lag |
| 22:04:09 | CrazyLinuxNerd | you can lag out users now? awesome sauce! |
| 22:04:37 | Watusimoto | only yourself at the moment |
| 22:04:59 | Watusimoto | it's skippy with /lag 800, but then that's what I;d expect! |
| 22:05:43 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ah, would be cool if you could lag other users so make sure you win haha :-D |
| 22:06:29 | raptor | compiling a server on master... |
| 22:06:49 | raptor | this may take a few min... |
| 22:06:51 | CrazyLinuxNerd | raptor: You still got the most powerful pc out of these guys? |
| 22:06:58 | raptor | nope - i think sam686 has now |
| 22:07:05 | CrazyLinuxNerd | wow sam686 had an upgrade? |
| 22:07:10 | raptor | oh wait - my work computer still wins, i think with 8 threads |
| 22:07:24 | Watusimoto | ok, see the problm on coldstorage |
| 22:09:48 | Watusimoto | /lag 400 is enought to induce it locally |
| 22:10:23 | raptor | i was connected to sam's server at the time - and i think he could see it too on his own server (as another process) |
| 22:12:42 | Watusimoto | do we still do special energy stuff in loadout zones? |
| 22:12:48 | Watusimoto | I still see all that code in there |
| 22:12:49 | raptor | i think so, yes |
| 22:12:54 | raptor | but it may be obsolete now |
| 22:12:58 | Watusimoto | I think we shoudl remove it |
| 22:13:01 | Watusimoto | in fact, I will |
| 22:13:07 | raptor | i think we left it in case our new energy system is bad |
| 22:13:10 | Watusimoto | the idea was to simplify |
| 22:13:11 | raptor | but it doesn't seem bad... |
| 22:13:14 | Watusimoto | I'll comment it |
| 22:13:20 | Watusimoto | no, I think it's really good |
| 22:15:17 | Watusimoto | do we still want an energy penalty for moving? |
| 22:15:45 | raptor | don't we still want energy drain on hostile loadout? |
| 22:15:50 | raptor | moving... |
| 22:16:01 | raptor | hmmm... not sure - seems like all of the rules need to be reevaluated |
| 22:16:05 | Watusimoto | I think no -- the one we have is very small |
| 22:16:32 | Watusimoto | drain in hostile loadout? I thought we decided that was so rare that it wasn't worth worrying about |
| 22:16:46 | Watusimoto | I don't recall ever seeing a level with a hostile loadout! |
| 22:17:27 | Watusimoto | I think the rules are simple. Constant trickle recharge; idle for longer than n seconds, fast recharge |
| 22:17:50 | raptor | i've seen two levels with hostile loadouts |
| 22:17:57 | raptor | i think both were built by skybax |
| 22:18:07 | raptor | one was really hard |
| 22:18:13 | Watusimoto | currently, hostile loadouts suppress fast recharge |
| 22:18:19 | raptor | yes |
| 22:18:26 | raptor | they're hostile |
| 22:33:26 | raptor | ok Watusimoto, i set up a server on master... finally |
| 22:33:36 | Watusimoto | great! |
| 22:33:57 | Watusimoto | the problem seems to be that cleitn and server disagree about when client is passive or active |
| 22:34:10 | raptor | interesting... |
| 22:35:47 | Watusimoto | specifically related to firing |
| 22:57:41 | raptor | huh, i can't duplicate the energy bug on nascar track anymore... |
| 22:57:45 | Watusimoto | or something |
| 22:57:51 | Watusimoto | me neither |
| 22:58:09 | raptor | well that's good-ish news |
| 22:58:43 | raptor | sam686? if you're around can you try and duplicate that pulse-energy bug we found on the 'nascar track' level? |
| 22:59:41 | raptor | still can't produce with lag either... |
| 23:00:05 | raptor | maybe something you did Watusimoto helped it... |
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| 23:04:49 | amgine1234567890 | hi there hows it going with the resale and idle bugs |
| 23:07:41 | Watusimoto | sleeepy |
| 23:07:41 | raptor | hi |
| 23:07:43 | raptor | fixing bugs |
| 23:07:51 | Watusimoto | good night |
| 23:07:55 | raptor | night! |
| 23:08:03 | raptor | anythign to check in? |
| 23:08:36 | Watusimoto | no |
| 23:09:05 | | BFLogBot Commit: 5f8bcae15338 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Whitespace |
| 23:09:07 | | BFLogBot Commit: 2b1e7b720da6 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Remove archaic energy rules. Let's release with a slim, sleek, easy to understand ruleset! |
| 23:10:10 | Watusimoto | it would help if i understood what ClientIdleControlReplay ia |
| 23:10:14 | Watusimoto | is |
| 23:10:29 | raptor | it just means client |
| 23:10:37 | raptor | oh wait |
| 23:10:42 | raptor | that is for the journal |
| 23:11:01 | raptor | there is another client path that is the live idle update path |
| 23:14:20 | Watusimoto | well it gets called a lot sometimes |
| 23:16:41 | raptor | well now i'm not sure |
| 23:16:49 | raptor | maybe it doesn't have anything to do witht he journal... |
| 23:17:15 | raptor | see comment tnl/controlObjectConnection.cpp:174 |
| 23:19:34 | raptor | i don't think i even understand the full purpose of the IdleCallPath |
| 23:20:12 | Watusimoto | I do sometimes |
| 23:20:22 | Watusimoto | think I understand it, thatis |
| 23:20:51 | Watusimoto | I can reproduce the problem on levels without slipzones |
| 23:21:02 | raptor | excellent |
| 23:21:22 | Watusimoto | so its a disagreement between client and server about when to enter fast recharge mode |
| 23:21:51 | Watusimoto | you can easily reproduce it on your own machine by setting /lag to soemthing biggish 300 will do |
| 23:22:19 | Watusimoto | Normally server broadcasts energy frequently to client |
| 23:22:36 | Watusimoto | I can sort of fix the problem by broadcasting timer data as well |
| 23:22:45 | Watusimoto | this fixes it maybe 80% |
| 23:22:56 | raptor | that seems like too much bandwidth... |
| 23:23:01 | Watusimoto | at least then there is some agreement about when to enter/exit fast mode |
| 23:24:12 | Watusimoto | it would require sending a ranged int<0,2000> along with energy (rangedInt<0,100000>) |
| 23:24:29 | Watusimoto | 0-2000 = 11 bits? |
| 23:24:38 | Watusimoto | ish |
| 23:25:10 | raptor | to all clients several times a second |
| 23:25:19 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 23:25:40 | Watusimoto | you can reproduce it without bursts |
| 23:25:50 | Watusimoto | simply drain your energy with shield and wait |
| 23:25:52 | raptor | maybe |
| 23:25:55 | raptor | maybe |
| 23:26:09 | raptor | we use a timer that's already sync'd across? |
| 23:26:16 | raptor | i found one once.. |
| 23:26:19 | Watusimoto | that might work |
| 23:26:32 | raptor | yes! we use it for core rotation |
| 23:26:53 | Watusimoto | so what -- server would send a signal saying resetting timer at tick n? |
| 23:26:56 | raptor | gameType->getRemainingGameTimeInMs() |
| 23:27:06 | raptor | that timer is sync'd |
| 23:27:25 | Watusimoto | so how to use it? |
| 23:27:53 | Watusimoto | the key is to sync the timers on client and server |
| 23:28:18 | raptor | hmmm... set an int in the Ship class that marks the start of the 2 seconds, reset it each time there is a move or whatever |
| 23:28:25 | Watusimoto | maybe we don't |
| 23:28:37 | Watusimoto | maybe we just pass a flag saying "entering high recharge rate" |
| 23:28:45 | Watusimoto | and only maintain the timer on the server |
| 23:28:47 | raptor | or that... |
| 23:29:07 | Watusimoto | let me try that |
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| 23:47:01 | Watusimoto | well, it's a lot better |
| 23:47:16 | Watusimoto | still jerky, but its also jerky when expending energy as well |
| 23:49:52 | raptor | hmm |
| 23:50:01 | raptor | how does it compare with 017? |
| 23:50:04 | Watusimoto | well, I'm testing at very high framerate |
| 23:50:07 | Watusimoto | sorry, high lag |
| 23:53:24 | Watusimoto | 017 is like silk on 173 lag |
| 23:54:22 | Watusimoto | nope, not as good in 018 |
| 23:55:46 | Watusimoto | well, I really am done for the night |
| 23:56:04 | Watusimoto | shoudl I check my fix in? or wait until I've bettered it? |
| 23:56:41 | raptor | i'd wait if you think you want to look at it closer |
| 23:56:51 | raptor | the question is why has it gotten worse since 017 |
| 23:58:41 | Watusimoto | because of the rapid recharge |
| 23:58:54 | raptor | is it only the rapid recharge that does it? |
| 23:59:06 | Watusimoto | I haevn't tried removing it, but I think it is |
| 23:59:17 | Watusimoto | because the changing rates can cause a rapid divergence in state |
| 23:59:57 | raptor | so that means: the underlying problem was always there, just that since it's faster now, it's more apparent? |