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| 00:03:16 | amgine1234567890 | im advertising BF :) |
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| 00:04:50 | raptor | ok back later |
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| 00:07:49 | Nothing_Much | Alright |
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| 00:51:40 | Nothing_Much | amgine1234567890, how were you advertising Bitfighter? |
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| 01:05:20 | Fordcars_ | aaaaahhhhhhhh 49 build errors!!!!! |
| 01:05:30 | Nothing_Much | What happen? |
| 01:12:02 | Nothing_Much | Fordcars_ what happened? |
| 01:12:49 | Fordcars_ | nothing I just got the latest code :( |
| 01:14:09 | bobdaduck | Are you missing the win_include_do_not_distribute? |
| 01:15:07 | Fordcars_ | euhhh wait a tick |
| 01:16:21 | Fordcars_ | I might be. But do you only need that for the windows version? |
| 01:18:49 | bobdaduck | hm, maybe |
| 01:18:58 | bobdaduck | Stupit people who don't use windows |
| 01:19:23 | bobdaduck | And no one more technical is online at the moment xD |
| 01:19:31 | Nothing_Much | wuchu talkin' 'bout |
| 01:19:31 | bobdaduck | I vote that's your problem. |
| 01:19:35 | Nothing_Much | windose |
| 01:19:54 | Nothing_Much | Didn't Fordcars say that he had a PPC Mac? |
| 01:19:58 | Nothing_Much | That might be the issue |
| 01:21:11 | Fordcars_ | Yeah PPC. Seems to be in only 6 files, though, so should be fairly easy to repair |
| 01:21:47 | Fordcars_ | Actually PPC shouldn't be an isue, we didn't change THAT much since 18 |
| 01:24:45 | Fordcars_ | Well this is annoying. I can't do anything until it compiles :/ |
| 01:28:04 | Fordcars_ | Oh boy |
| 01:28:22 | Fordcars_ | the debug can't even run |
| 01:34:56 | Fordcars_ | well I sent a pm to raptor |
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| 01:37:57 | Fordcars_ | hi |
| 01:38:16 | raptor | hi Fordcars_ |
| 01:38:24 | Fordcars_ | can you check the pm I sent you, raptor? |
| 01:38:28 | raptor | did you try the latest notifier? i made sure it was annoying.. |
| 01:38:33 | raptor | uh, looking.. |
| 01:39:15 | raptor | oh look mac compile fails again... |
| 01:39:19 | raptor | ok, i'll fix... |
| 01:39:27 | raptor | and i should turn PMs off... |
| 01:39:29 | raptor | :) |
| 01:39:48 | Fordcars_ | Yeah sorry :P |
| 01:41:18 | raptor | ok no more PMs... now to fix mac.. |
| 01:41:27 | raptor | one bug at a time.. :) |
| 01:41:38 | Fordcars_ | haha ok |
| 01:48:07 | | BFLogBot Commit: 78996cbf7f5f | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix building on OSX |
| 01:48:19 | raptor | ok, time to fix the next bug: i'm hungry |
| 01:49:13 | Fordcars_ | Haha ok thanks! |
| 01:51:14 | bobdaduck | That's quite the bug raptor |
| 01:51:18 | bobdaduck | is it contagious/ |
| 01:52:20 | raptor | mmm... humiliated grapes |
| 01:53:18 | bobdaduck | Great, now I'm hungry. |
| 01:53:23 | bobdaduck | GJ. |
| 01:55:46 | Fordcars_ | AMAZING raptor! It works! I know it was very easy for you but, WOW |
| 01:56:19 | raptor | it's only easy when i know the problem... :) |
| 01:56:26 | Fordcars_ | hehe |
| 01:58:03 | raptor | so Fordcars_ can you try out the latest notifier? |
| 01:59:56 | Fordcars_ | oh right, sorrry :/ Euhhhh you might think I am brainless but, whats the command to run a python script again :$ |
| 02:00:08 | raptor | python main_osx.py |
| 02:00:21 | raptor | if you're in the same directory |
| 02:00:22 | Fordcars_ | right, I knew that ;) |
| 02:00:38 | Fordcars_ | yes raptor I am not THAT dumb :) |
| 02:00:51 | raptor | :) |
| 02:01:52 | amgine1234567890 | im dumb XD |
| 02:02:29 | Fordcars_ | WOW nice bar icon thing |
| 02:02:58 | Fordcars_ | but, euhhh, how do you see that JSON, it just refreshes |
| 02:03:03 | Fordcars_ | the JSON |
| 02:03:11 | raptor | the logging? |
| 02:03:28 | raptor | i want to make sure the alert works... |
| 02:03:39 | Fordcars_ | NICE It works!!!!! |
| 02:03:43 | raptor | ok good |
| 02:04:18 | Fordcars_ | :D |
| 02:04:43 | raptor | it's a little annoying, i imagine to use alert windows.. but it was the easiest way to do it |
| 02:04:51 | raptor | comma fail |
| 02:05:09 | Fordcars_ | lol |
| 02:10:08 | Fordcars_ | but if it's a BBB, ouch |
| 02:10:39 | Fordcars_ | you should try to make a window with all players with a button in the menu bar |
| 02:11:17 | raptor | yeah, i'm not that advanced in pyobjc yet... |
| 02:11:32 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:12:01 | Fordcars_ | but it should be possible with the stuff that you know because it just shows a window |
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| 02:44:39 | Fordcars_ | oohhhh |
| 02:45:05 | Fordcars_ | the return of the "Mac Right-Click Bug" |
| 02:45:20 | Fordcars_ | but I don't mind that much |
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| 03:18:24 | bobdaduck | http://s7.postimage.org/oeebkfg6z/screenshot_3.png |
| 03:19:10 | raptor | hi |
| 03:19:47 | Fordcars_ | lolololol |
| 03:19:56 | Nothing_Much | Y'all in BF? |
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| 03:56:47 | raptor | Nothing_Much: was that you in-game with us? |
| 03:56:51 | Nothing_Much | Yeah |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | you asked which song |
| 03:57:04 | Nothing_Much | yep |
| 03:57:09 | Nothing_Much | the one that had the piano |
| 03:57:14 | raptor | all the songs are described in the credit.txt |
| 03:57:15 | Nothing_Much | goin' up and down |
| 03:57:21 | raptor | in the music folder |
| 03:57:32 | Nothing_Much | aw man, gotta search through them, I wanna listen to that specific one lol |
| 03:57:36 | raptor | they're not attached to levels so i don't exactly know which it was... |
| 03:57:45 | raptor | there's only 10 or so, i think... |
| 03:57:53 | Nothing_Much | ah, it was the last on before the server shut down |
| 03:58:01 | raptor | probably 'dreams' |
| 03:58:33 | Nothing_Much | actually it's av_ktb.xm |
| 03:58:36 | Nothing_Much | wow |
| 03:58:42 | Nothing_Much | it's amazing |
| 03:58:45 | raptor | :) |
| 03:59:07 | raptor | they're all from the same artist - we didn't really have music before, but we found this one guy off of the mod archive |
| 03:59:29 | Nothing_Much | Is the music okay to be distributed? |
| 03:59:34 | raptor | yes |
| 03:59:46 | Nothing_Much | alright that's good |
| 03:59:46 | raptor | open license - most is on the mod archive |
| 03:59:55 | Nothing_Much | excellent choice of music, really fits the game |
| 04:00:11 | raptor | yeah, that was watusimoto's find |
| 04:00:13 | raptor | i agree |
| 04:00:22 | raptor | i would have gone with something like Vivaldi or Mozart... |
| 04:00:42 | raptor | but not really :) |
| 04:00:47 | Nothing_Much | hahahaha |
| 04:00:51 | Nothing_Much | I'm wondering |
| 04:01:19 | Nothing_Much | are there any other FOSS projects that are small but extremely dedicated to last for 5 years+? |
| 04:01:29 | raptor | well |
| 04:01:40 | raptor | i've also worked a little with hedgewars |
| 04:01:45 | raptor | they're pretty dedicated |
| 04:01:54 | raptor | but they're also much larger now... |
| 04:02:15 | raptor | i've also helped out a bit with one called 'naev' |
| 04:02:21 | raptor | but they've slowed down in the past year |
| 04:03:23 | raptor | they're a bit bigger, too; but not as large as hedgewars |
| 04:04:14 | Nothing_Much | I see |
| 04:05:20 | Nothing_Much | I'm honestly starting to believe that Steam doesn't really help out indie devs at all, unlike HiB and other indie type games, since Steam's all about the AAA titles from major devs/publishers |
| 04:05:39 | raptor | are they? |
| 04:06:01 | Nothing_Much | are what they? |
| 04:06:04 | Nothing_Much | steam? |
| 04:07:44 | Nothing_Much | like, steam isn't good for indie games because they're about the AAA titles? then yes |
| 04:09:15 | raptor | yes |
| 04:09:16 | raptor | ah ok |
| 04:09:19 | Nothing_Much | because AAA titles steal the spotlight, among other reasons too |
| 04:13:13 | Nothing_Much | oh, also, it's not just games I was referring to about the dedication, it's just projects in general that have been abandoned |
| 04:13:30 | Nothing_Much | or haven't been updating as frequently as you guys |
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| 04:20:06 | amgine1234567890 | they need to make captchas for stupid people like me XD |
| 04:20:18 | raptor | amgine1234567890: why do you need a captcha? |
| 04:20:26 | raptor | thr forums doesn't require it... |
| 04:43:16 | amgine1234567890 | to get onto the irc |
| 04:43:42 | raptor | ah ok |
| 04:59:50 | Nothing_Much | if you're on linux |
| 04:59:52 | Nothing_Much | try xchat |
| 05:41:56 | bobdaduck | Novelty maps! |
| 05:41:58 | bobdaduck | COLLECTED. |
| 05:42:02 | raptor | ha |
| 05:42:12 | bobdaduck | Can I make asteroid spawns via levelgen? |
| 05:42:41 | raptor | maybe... let me check... |
| 05:43:19 | raptor | http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/index.html |
| 05:43:21 | raptor | yes |
| 05:43:28 | raptor | oops: http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/class_asteroid_spawn.html |
| 05:45:05 | amgine1234567890 | raptor is it possible to make moving spped zones with leel gens. |
| 05:45:13 | raptor | yes |
| 05:45:16 | bobdaduck | k |
| 05:45:22 | bobdaduck | so |
| 05:45:32 | bobdaduck | help me add an asteroid spawner every 30 seconds |
| 05:45:34 | bobdaduck | pls |
| 05:45:35 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 05:45:39 | amgine1234567890 | i have a mean idea for a dungone trap |
| 05:45:47 | raptor | a spawner?? |
| 05:45:50 | raptor | that's horrible! |
| 05:45:57 | raptor | why would i enable such evil? |
| 05:46:39 | bobdaduck | shhhh |
| 05:46:41 | amgine1234567890 | its almost as evil as spinning hostile turrets in my dungeon im making XD |
| 05:46:45 | bobdaduck | Its not for an actual level |
| 05:47:01 | bobdaduck | Remember Quartz' asteroid onslaught? |
| 05:47:08 | raptor | yes |
| 05:47:19 | raptor | that was... evil |
| 05:47:25 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 05:47:27 | bobdaduck | I thought |
| 05:47:35 | bobdaduck | that it needed to progress in difficulty |
| 05:47:37 | bobdaduck | Rather than being flat |
| 05:47:41 | bobdaduck | Y'know? |
| 05:49:38 | raptor | yeah well... |
| 05:49:40 | amgine1234567890 | yeah sounds like a good idea |
| 05:49:41 | raptor | we should get our asteroid spawn graphic in first... |
| 05:49:55 | raptor | sounds like a novelty map.. |
| 05:50:08 | bobdaduck | It is |
| 05:50:15 | amgine1234567890 | btw raptro wht did you think of my diea for having server messages for whne players are going dile and unidle |
| 05:50:16 | bobdaduck | I'm putting it on my novelty map server xD |
| 05:51:02 | raptor | amgine1234567890: it sounds like a good idea... i'll run it passed watusimotoo |
| 05:51:59 | bobdaduck | So how can I set up a timer for every 30 seconds? |
| 05:52:10 | raptor | we have a Timer class |
| 05:55:04 | bobdaduck | So how do I make that work? |
| 05:55:10 | bobdaduck | Subscribe(timer) in main? |
| 05:55:23 | raptor | ok, i'm giving up on my other project to help you a bit... |
| 05:55:29 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 06:00:59 | raptor | ok, lets start with the clunky... |
| 06:09:21 | raptor | is that you trying to connect? |
| 06:09:25 | raptor | not ready.. |
| 06:10:07 | bobdaduck | no |
| 06:11:16 | raptor | IT WORKS MUAHAHAHA |
| 06:11:30 | raptor | ok, now to clean up my code before i show you... |
| 06:13:05 | amgine1234567890 | can i see teh finished result? |
| 06:14:15 | raptor | please stop trying to connect, its distracting me from the logs i need to read |
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| 06:18:45 | amgine1234567890 | raptor i used /getmap but i dont see it in my levels fiels? |
| 06:18:59 | raptor | it starts with downlaoded_ |
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| 06:27:28 | raptor | ok bobdaduck |
| 06:27:30 | raptor | ready? |
| 06:27:38 | bobdaduck | sure |
| 06:27:46 | raptor | ok connect 69.169... |
| 06:32:39 | amgine1234567890 | teh srript looked good. |
| 06:33:29 | raptor | ok bobdaduck: http://pastie.org/5853559 |
| 06:33:47 | raptor | enjoy - i do not wish to work on more Lua until watusimoto can fix bugs... |
| 06:33:54 | raptor | because... it's maddening |
| 06:34:21 | raptor | and with that, i bid you all good night! |
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| 06:34:50 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 06:34:50 | bobdaduck | night |
| 06:34:56 | Nothing_Much | later |
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| 06:35:42 | amgine1234567890 | gtg goodnight |
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| 06:35:46 | Nothing_Much | later |
| 06:40:34 | Nothing_Much | I really can't get enough of this song |
| 06:40:55 | Nothing_Much | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njFfa1i3CX8 |
| 06:41:07 | Nothing_Much | It's BF music, so it's relevant here :P |
| 06:41:30 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 06:47:28 | Nothing_Much | gonna head out, l8r guys |
| 06:48:13 | bobdaduck | lateh |
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| 15:55:33 | bobdaduck | whew |
| 15:55:42 | bobdaduck | finished looting sam's server for novelty maps |
| 15:55:47 | bobdaduck | NOW I HAVE EVERYTHING. |
| 15:57:47 | Nothing_Much | Every map made for BF? |
| 15:57:55 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 15:57:56 | bobdaduck | No |
| 15:58:03 | bobdaduck | Check sky_larks old computer for that |
| 15:58:18 | bobdaduck | He had like over 8000 maps or something ludicrous like that. |
| 15:58:42 | bobdaduck | I mean I got all the novelty maps. |
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| 16:05:24 | Nothing_Much | Whoa |
| 16:16:30 | Nothing_Much | How's it going? |
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| 16:23:57 | Nothing_Much | How're you guys doin'? |
| 16:24:04 | bobdaduck | Good |
| 16:24:16 | bobdaduck | You? |
| 16:25:17 | Nothing_Much | Doin' alright, wondering how the Desura builds are |
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| 16:30:53 | Nothing_Much | Hello sir |
| 17:15:32 | watusimoto | just waiting on the desura folks to answer some questions... everyhting is built and uploaded, at least for windows |
| 17:15:40 | watusimoto | part way done for linux |
| 17:19:35 | Nothing_Much | Alrighty then, when it's uploaded and it doesn't work, you can post a comment stating that you're new to Desura and still trying to figure out how it works |
| 17:27:29 | watusimoto | It has been an unnecessarily frustrating process |
| 17:27:42 | watusimoto | Admittedly they are doing somehting very complex |
| 17:28:14 | watusimoto | but there is conflicting/misleading info, broken URLs, and lots of little things they could do to make a difficult process smoother |
| 17:33:38 | Nothing_Much | Maybe, but it should still work, then again I think it's to make things go smoother for the updates to come for the game, so you can just upstream the game and it'll update |
| 17:35:30 | watusimoto | yes... though our in-game updater is pretty smooth |
| 17:35:51 | watusimoto | there *probably* won't be any conflicts :-) |
| 17:37:12 | Nothing_Much | Ah, most likely not, Desura just brings the executable and it updates the file name? |
| 17:41:07 | watusimoto | probably something like that |
| 17:42:55 | Nothing_Much | Yeah, there most likely won't be any conflicts |
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| 18:05:40 | raptor | hello |
| 18:05:42 | bobdaduck | Goodmonin' |
| 18:06:03 | bobdaduck | Before work today I looted sam's server of novelty maps. |
| 18:06:09 | bobdaduck | I think my server is complete now, actually. |
| 18:06:12 | raptor | oh yeah? |
| 18:06:21 | bobdaduck | Though I do need to make some modifications to some |
| 18:06:26 | bobdaduck | ...Because I can do better than them. |
| 18:06:27 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 18:06:29 | raptor | like delete them? |
| 18:06:31 | raptor | oh |
| 18:06:33 | raptor | ok |
| 18:06:34 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 18:06:46 | bobdaduck | They're in a seperate folder from my other maps |
| 18:07:03 | bobdaduck | THE NOVEL AND THE ACTUAL SHALL NOT MIX. |
| 18:10:12 | bobdaduck | I'm still kind of prejudice in the ones that I'm including though |
| 18:10:21 | bobdaduck | Like, lamp's flag dungeon? No. |
| 18:10:40 | raptor | haha |
| 18:14:43 | raptor | ok watusimoto, to what e-mail do I respond for the Linux desura stuff? |
| 18:15:22 | raptor | oh - do I have a 'raptor@bitfighter.org' address? (I can't remember) |
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| 18:21:16 | bobdaduck | Watusimoto_ |
| 18:22:38 | bobdaduck | And any news? Anything I can help with to get Desura up? |
| 18:26:47 | raptor | it's just a patience thing i think |
| 18:27:08 | Nothing_Much | Branches were created, right? |
| 18:27:15 | raptor | for windows, yes |
| 18:28:36 | Nothing_Much | Are there 2 separate branches for the Win/Linux version? |
| 18:32:09 | Nothing_Much | Because there should be separate branches for the versions for different platforms |
| 18:32:18 | raptor | yes there are |
| 18:32:34 | raptor | but our linux one has dependencies that desura doesn't seem to have catalogued |
| 18:32:59 | Nothing_Much | Oh, is that the only issue that's been run into as of nor? |
| 18:33:00 | Nothing_Much | *now? |
| 18:33:18 | raptor | not sure... |
| 18:33:52 | raptor | it looks like the windows stuff isn't yet available for some reason, but it's all uploaded and sorted |
| 18:34:45 | Nothing_Much | Ah okay. The standalone downloads for all 3 clients are there too, right? |
| 18:34:53 | Nothing_Much | *versions |
| 18:35:16 | raptor | there isn't a linux standalone, but there is a mac... i should try and upload that.. |
| 18:35:58 | Nothing_Much | Ah yes, upload the Mac version, that way it appears in the store ready for download. |
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| 18:42:12 | raptor | well... watusimoto gave me all privileges for the project, but i cannot seem to do much |
| 18:48:49 | Nothing_Much | Okay, I'm gathering information |
| 18:49:04 | raptor | ok, got the mac installer up |
| 18:49:08 | raptor | finally found the link |
| 18:49:17 | Nothing_Much | Oh, great! |
| 18:49:30 | raptor | so it's awaiting review.. |
| 18:50:07 | Nothing_Much | Regarding the dependencies, you can proceed, the dependencies can be updated at any time |
| 18:52:35 | Nothing_Much | So when the Desura guys get the dependencies not listed in the dependencies list in the list, you can update it at any time |
| 18:52:55 | raptor | ok |
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| 19:01:16 | raptor | yeah that's me on the #desura channel, just found it |
| 19:01:52 | Nothing_Much | Ah, okay, been seeing some guys from here to there, but I just wanted to make sure they weren't different people |
| 19:02:17 | raptor | freenode makes sure usernames are unique |
| 19:02:31 | raptor | so if you see raptor on a different channel as well as here, it's me :) |
| 19:02:42 | Nothing_Much | Oh that's great! :D |
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| 19:28:21 | Nothing_Much | raptor, Maybe you can send me the file since I'm on an ubuntu based distro |
| 19:28:27 | Nothing_Much | and see if I can test it out |
| 19:28:35 | raptor | the mcf? |
| 19:29:24 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 19:30:05 | raptor | http://sam6.25u.com/upload/NewMcf_b0_20130124T152035.mcf |
| 19:30:08 | raptor | ^^ tada! |
| 19:30:38 | Nothing_Much | Alrighty then |
| 19:44:18 | bobdaduck | I'm save scumming nethack. |
| 19:44:24 | bobdaduck | The game cheats, I cheat. |
| 19:44:47 | raptor | the game does NOT cheat - it just knows your future better |
| 19:44:52 | raptor | :) |
| 19:45:25 | bobdaduck | Nethack? Sure it cheats. |
| 19:45:30 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:45:59 | bobdaduck | Opti's browser pluggin thread is really funny xD |
| 19:46:20 | Nothing_Much | The one with the Flash stuff? |
| 19:46:59 | bobdaduck | No |
| 19:47:08 | bobdaduck | the one where words were pulling out ads randomly xD |
| 19:47:23 | raptor | haha |
| 19:47:27 | raptor | don't punch the monkey |
| 19:47:32 | bobdaduck | http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1692&p=17181#p17181 |
| 19:47:43 | bobdaduck | Or download some smilies |
| 19:48:32 | Nothing_Much | Ahahaha |
| 19:49:53 | raptor | ok, Linux support on desura stinks - but that just means it's par with everything else |
| 19:50:08 | Nothing_Much | :( |
| 19:50:18 | raptor | it's the Linux world we live in... |
| 19:50:40 | Nothing_Much | Well at least it's starting off somewhere |
| 19:50:55 | Nothing_Much | it was recently ported to linux in late 2011/early 2012 |
| 19:51:08 | raptor | to be honest, it's actually pretty great that their client runs well across distros |
| 19:51:19 | Nothing_Much | it's a .run file, right? |
| 19:52:09 | raptor | i think it's just a script wrapper taht downloads itself into a directory, self-contained, including all the libraries |
| 19:54:56 | Nothing_Much | ah |
| 19:55:12 | Nothing_Much | so, which distro are you gonna compile on? |
| 19:55:54 | raptor | not sure yet - i have to find time to do it |
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| 20:03:54 | bobdaduck | Raptor is a busy guy |
| 20:04:05 | bobdaduck | Look at all the not-fixing-the-spybug-bug he has to do! |
| 20:04:10 | bobdaduck | :P |
| 20:05:42 | Nothing_Much | Desura yo, stuff takes time |
| 20:07:38 | raptor | quiet you |
| 20:08:22 | Nothing_Much | my bad, sorry |
| 20:08:46 | raptor | oh no, not you.. tybobby bo |
| 20:08:50 | raptor | bobbbb |
| 20:08:53 | raptor | that one^^ |
| 20:09:00 | | raptor is mad at sticky keys |
| 20:09:04 | Nothing_Much | ahaha |
| 20:10:08 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 20:10:20 | bobdaduck | Shift shift shift shift shift shift shift |
| 20:10:41 | bobdaduck | Worst command ever. |
| 20:11:46 | bobdaduck | We should have sam fix spybugs |
| 20:12:04 | bobdaduck | He can do that, right? |
| 20:12:44 | raptor | sam686 can fix anything.. |
| 20:13:10 | bobdaduck | You said it was elusive? |
| 20:13:16 | bobdaduck | !sam686 |
| 20:13:16 | BFLogBot | Master Bughunter |
| 20:14:05 | raptor | elusive as in - it required more thought than 1 hour late at night |
| 20:14:51 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 20:16:10 | Nothing_Much | you leavin' the channel or leavin' in general? |
| 20:16:20 | raptor | channel |
| 20:16:23 | Nothing_Much | ah |
| 20:16:26 | raptor | i need my attention to be elsewhere.. |
| 20:16:34 | Nothing_Much | where at? |
| 20:16:39 | raptor | fewer channels = more attention freed |
| 20:16:41 | raptor | like RAM |
| 20:16:49 | raptor | school and work.. |
| 20:17:01 | Nothing_Much | Ah, well, did you gather some new info? |
| 20:17:09 | raptor | i got what i needed yes |
| 20:17:26 | Nothing_Much | Awesome, now good luck with your everything :D |
| 20:17:46 | raptor | heh, thanks! |
| 20:17:54 | bobdaduck | Good luck |
| 20:17:58 | bobdaduck | I have no idea what's going on. |
| 20:18:13 | raptor | i'm freeing RAM |
| 20:18:18 | raptor | needed for other tasks.. |
| 20:18:40 | Nothing_Much | You got a VM runnin' for compiling? |
| 20:19:16 | raptor | i have several for several distros, but i haven't yet decided to start on an appropriate MCF for desura.. |
| 20:20:08 | Nothing_Much | I would recommend the earliest distro you have |
| 20:20:20 | Nothing_Much | as it branches out a lot of compatibility |
| 20:20:28 | Nothing_Much | like Debian Lenny (5.0) |
| 20:23:11 | raptor | oh hey look at that - i already have a debian 5.0 64bit VM lying around... |
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| 20:26:16 | Nothing_Much | you might need to make that 32 bit |
| 20:26:21 | Nothing_Much | better compatibility |
| 20:39:52 | raptor | heh - looks like the debian repositories moved... |
| 20:39:54 | raptor | fun |
| 20:40:08 | Nothing_Much | 5.0 is in the archives |
| 20:40:20 | Nothing_Much | it's considered outdated rather than oldstable now |
| 20:40:45 | raptor | sounds like just the distro for the job! |
| 20:40:57 | Nothing_Much | yep! |
| 20:41:36 | Nothing_Much | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-5.0/ |
| 20:41:38 | Nothing_Much | that's the repo |
| 20:41:43 | Nothing_Much | if ya need it |
| 20:44:01 | raptor | thanks |
| 20:46:02 | Nothing_Much | np |
| 20:46:09 | Nothing_Much | main contrib non-free |
| 20:48:04 | raptor | why am i even doing this? i can just rip the binary out of my already build DEB... |
| 20:48:14 | | raptor does the smart thing.. |
| 20:48:35 | Nothing_Much | from the BF website? |
| 20:49:05 | raptor | yes |
| 20:49:15 | Nothing_Much | Ah, go for it |
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| 20:54:49 | raptor | wow, done - that wasn't so bad |
| 20:54:53 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 20:54:54 | raptor | i can even automate that |
| 20:54:57 | raptor | hi Watusimoto |
| 20:54:59 | bobdaduck | hi |
| 20:55:04 | Nothing_Much | hello sir |
| 21:02:25 | raptor | Watusimoto: after a long discussion with desura community members, i've found out that there is little linux support with finding the correct libraries |
| 21:02:54 | raptor | basically we have to distribute it without shared libs and hope for the best |
| 21:02:59 | raptor | or we can bundle shared libs |
| 21:03:03 | raptor | but that's just as messy |
| 21:03:29 | raptor | or compile static... which is probably against the license of some of our libraries |
| 21:03:31 | raptor | so |
| 21:03:59 | raptor | i've decided to just take the debian 5.0 package i already build and convert it into standalone hoping that it is old enough to run on most Linux systems... |
| 21:04:07 | Watusimoto | so that email I forwarded... I thought it mean they would include the correct libraries |
| 21:04:28 | Watusimoto | if we just told them what they were |
| 21:04:38 | raptor | really? i didn't get that from the community channel... |
| 21:04:58 | raptor | i got that they have a search script that makes sure the libraries are properly on the system for you to run the game.. |
| 21:05:48 | Watusimoto | the email said tell us what libs you need and we'll include them |
| 21:05:48 | raptor | anyways, i uploaded a new MCF based on the debian 5.0 i386 build |
| 21:05:52 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 21:06:16 | Watusimoto | now the community channel obviously reflects experience of people involved |
| 21:06:40 | raptor | should i 'submit for approval' the mcf? |
| 21:06:45 | Watusimoto | why not? |
| 21:06:57 | Watusimoto | but speex, for example, will not be on most styems |
| 21:07:11 | Watusimoto | so we know already that there will be a problem |
| 21:07:45 | Watusimoto | what we/they need is an apt-like system that installs the prereqs |
| 21:09:26 | raptor | hmmm... |
| 21:09:51 | raptor | all the packages i build in the OBS use systems that do that already |
| 21:09:53 | Watusimoto | so actually, maybe not submit the mcf |
| 21:10:14 | Nothing_Much | Since every game is different and requires different dependencies, it's up to the devs to either supply them or let Desura tell what the requirements are for Linux for the user to install the deps via package manager |
| 21:10:30 | raptor | too late |
| 21:10:35 | Watusimoto | so what will happen if the deb 5 package is installed on a system without speex? |
| 21:10:49 | raptor | probably won't start |
| 21:11:26 | Nothing_Much | Speex isn't on my system |
| 21:11:28 | Nothing_Much | and it runs fine |
| 21:11:30 | raptor | how did you attach specific libraries to it? |
| 21:11:52 | raptor | Nothing_Much: did that mcf run for you? |
| 21:12:15 | Nothing_Much | I don't know how to run it, I thought it was an archive |
| 21:12:27 | raptor | it's desuras custom archive... |
| 21:12:42 | Watusimoto | well, this is a learning experience |
| 21:16:42 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 21:24:02 | raptor | ok whatever, i uploaded both linux architectures and submitted for approval |
| 21:25:12 | Watusimoto | so raptor: what was the general vibe of the people you talked to on the desura forums? |
| 21:25:27 | raptor | confused |
| 21:25:30 | Watusimoto | I guess the fact that there were people on the forums was positve |
| 21:25:39 | raptor | sorry it ws in the irc channel #desura |
| 21:26:11 | Watusimoto | but still |
| 21:26:27 | raptor | about as wishy-washy with responses about Linux building as i'd get anywhere... |
| 21:26:40 | raptor | to be fair.. it is about Linux building |
| 21:27:12 | raptor | but they also said that it was pretty much a community-only channel, and official desura devs rarely go there |
| 21:27:17 | Watusimoto | lots of people on that channel |
| 21:30:47 | raptor | they were helpful in bringing me to the conclusion that Linux dependency checks aren't really that great... but i wonder if they were wrong and the desura guys are developing a better way (based on that e-mail you sent me) |
| 21:36:04 | Nothing_Much | huh. I guess only devs can use the .mcf file |
| 21:36:23 | raptor | ok Watusimoto, i sent you a response... i'm officially done with desura today |
| 21:36:40 | Watusimoto | good |
| 21:37:01 | Watusimoto | sent a response via email? |
| 21:37:05 | raptor | yes |
| 21:38:37 | raptor | i can probably automate the transformation of a DEB built with the OBS into a standalone folder for MCF (for the future) |
| 21:41:21 | Watusimoto | wow... somehow I got a C stack overflow from lua |
| 21:41:34 | raptor | oh, bots are broken |
| 21:41:40 | raptor | bu t you probablyknow that |
| 21:41:42 | Watusimoto | no |
| 21:41:44 | Watusimoto | I did not |
| 21:41:55 | raptor | yeah, add a bot, wait... bot crash! |
| 21:41:57 | Watusimoto | broken in 018 or in the latest build |
| 21:42:01 | raptor | latest build |
| 21:42:03 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 21:42:22 | Watusimoto | then I will know it even if I don;t now |
| 21:42:25 | raptor | i figure you know you've been working in Lua... |
| 21:42:39 | Watusimoto | I was, before desura took over |
| 21:42:49 | raptor | yeah... we need to get back to 018a... |
| 21:42:52 | raptor | because |
| 21:43:03 | raptor | otherwise bobdaduck will never release his new level |
| 21:43:15 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:43:26 | bobdaduck | NEVARRRRR |
| 21:43:35 | bobdaduck | I even got the script working because I got impatient |
| 21:43:45 | bobdaduck | using one of the alphsa |
| 21:44:38 | raptor | oh Watusimoto i also uploaded the mac 64bit build to desura |
| 21:44:54 | Watusimoto | great! |
| 21:47:12 | raptor | and now i'm working with relativistic speeds of moving point charges.. |
| 21:50:00 | bobdaduck | Does that have anything to do with spybugs? |
| 21:50:14 | raptor | silence you! |
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| 21:57:08 | | bobdaduck is silent |
| 21:57:27 | Watusimoto | infinite mass! |
| 21:58:41 | bobdaduck | I miss Invader Alex. |
| 21:59:15 | raptor | ok ok, i have to tell a joke by cloakdood |
| 21:59:21 | bobdaduck | Go! |
| 21:59:30 | raptor | he said his girlfriend was like the sqrt(-2) |
| 21:59:37 | raptor | both irrational and imaginary |
| 22:00:00 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:00:06 | bobdaduck | nice |
| 22:00:28 | bobdaduck | Invader Alex made some good level names. |
| 22:01:20 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 22:02:10 | bobdaduck | "the love I have for your train" |
| 22:02:23 | bobdaduck | "All my hate" |
| 22:02:27 | bobdaduck | etc. |
| 22:02:39 | bobdaduck | He made this level terminal which I love |
| 22:03:04 | bobdaduck | Terminal |
| 22:03:24 | raptor | was that for level design contest? |
| 22:03:28 | bobdaduck | Has all these random phrases in it |
| 22:03:30 | bobdaduck | I don't remember |
| 22:03:52 | bobdaduck | A bunch of dune references in the level |
| 22:03:56 | bobdaduck | as textitems |
| 22:04:02 | bobdaduck | "the flags must flow" |
| 22:04:06 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 22:04:07 | bobdaduck | So funny xD |
| 22:04:10 | raptor | that one one the contest |
| 22:04:12 | raptor | *won |
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| 22:25:46 | Nothing_Much | http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_games/quantal/games/getdeb/bitfighter |
| 22:25:46 | Nothing_Much | Is this official? |
| 22:26:33 | raptor | that's the getdeb package |
| 22:26:37 | raptor | they do their own thing |
| 22:26:53 | raptor | but getdeb went down a couple months ago so no one has updated it.. |
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| 22:32:56 | Nothing_Much | ah alrihgt |
| 22:33:09 | Nothing_Much | thank goodness for that log |
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| 23:01:38 | amgine1234567890 | hi |
| 23:19:07 | raptor | Watusimoto: do you have lots to check in? it's been 4 days... :) |
| 23:19:16 | Watusimoto | only videos |
| 23:23:18 | Watusimoto | this is what I'm working on |
| 23:23:20 | Watusimoto | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14531901/is-my-lua-object-being-collected |
| 23:23:21 | Watusimoto | sadly |
| 23:23:25 | Watusimoto | because this sucks |
| 23:24:25 | raptor | is that why levelgens don't always work at the start of levels? |
| 23:25:20 | Watusimoto | no |
| 23:25:46 | Watusimoto | this is a new issue, and is unlikely to cause any problmes besides running out of memory |
| 23:25:56 | Watusimoto | and slowly at tat |
| 23:25:56 | raptor | ah |
| 23:25:58 | Watusimoto | that |
| 23:26:24 | Watusimoto | this is all part of trying to get you a constant userdata to return from findObjectById |
| 23:26:31 | raptor | ah |
| 23:26:42 | Watusimoto | I'm caching the userdatas, but i think something is not releasing it properly |
| 23:26:58 | Watusimoto | shoudl be a minor boost in performance as well |
| 23:27:08 | Watusimoto | at least if you are grabbing the same objects over and over |
| 23:29:35 | raptor | hmmm |
| 23:32:57 | Watusimoto | oooops |
| 23:33:03 | Watusimoto | oops oops oops |
| 23:33:10 | Watusimoto | that question may have a false premise |
| 23:33:17 | raptor | you stuck beans up your nose? |
| 23:33:25 | raptor | ah |
| 23:33:37 | | raptor didn't read it thoroughly |
| 23:34:45 | Watusimoto | no, ok, the question stands |
