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| 00:00:00 | Lamp | I get 404 not found when i click it |
| 00:00:15 | raptor | i still don't know what you're talking about |
| 00:00:29 | Lamp | Look at the bottom left, I mean right, of the website |
| 00:00:39 | raptor | what website? i'm not using a browser to chat |
| 00:00:45 | Lamp | This website |
| 00:00:53 | Lamp | Oh |
| 00:01:02 | Lamp | Go to bitfighter.org |
| 00:01:09 | Lamp | And look at bottom right |
| 00:01:31 | raptor | oh yeah, that is the drupal login |
| 00:01:42 | raptor | for the bitfighter site |
| 00:01:44 | Lamp | Drupal? ??? |
| 00:01:49 | raptor | i don't get a 404 |
| 00:01:55 | raptor | drupal is a website manager |
| 00:02:03 | | Lamp Quit (Quit: Page closed) |
| 00:03:06 | | Lamp has joined |
| 00:03:14 | Lamp | http://www.bitfighter.org/node/user |
| 00:03:20 | Lamp | That's where the button goes |
| 00:03:56 | raptor | great! we don't want people logging in anyways... |
| 00:03:58 | raptor | :) |
| 00:04:39 | Lamp | So... Shouldn't it only show for the admin? |
| 00:07:37 | | Lamp_ has joined |
| 00:09:40 | Lamp_ | Wow it's already tomorrow in the log |
| 00:11:25 | Fordcars | ahhhhh videotron is quebecor media!!!! |
| 00:11:29 | Fordcars | it's french, dude :P |
| 00:12:23 | Lamp_ | Oh |
| 00:13:18 | Lamp_ | :P |
| 00:14:00 | Fordcars | lol .ca means canada :P |
| 00:14:20 | Fordcars | Once, I tried to track my ip and it said I lived in Europe! |
| 00:14:50 | Lamp_ | Lol |
| 00:16:56 | Lamp_ | U live in Metropolis, New Jersey? |
| 00:17:02 | Fordcars | vot |
| 00:17:09 | Lamp_ | Or was itNew York |
| 00:17:09 | Fordcars | lol |
| 00:17:17 | Fordcars | montreal, canada |
| 00:17:25 | Lamp_ | Oh |
| 00:17:28 | Fordcars | lol |
| 00:17:39 | Lamp_ | Maybe I read the IP wrong |
| 00:17:52 | Lamp_ | Let me read it backwards |
| 00:18:03 | Fordcars | ok... |
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| 00:19:00 | Lamp_ | Stupid browser |
| 00:19:21 | Fordcars | lol |
| 00:19:32 | Lamp_ | It's Chrome mobile |
| 00:19:34 | Fordcars | are you on iPod? |
| 00:19:40 | Fordcars | or iPhone? |
| 00:19:52 | Lamp_ | iPhone |
| 00:20:08 | Fordcars | search in app store IRC client to get an app that works |
| 00:20:19 | Fordcars | "IRC client" |
| 00:20:20 | Lamp_ | It shuts down other tabs when the current tab lags |
| 00:20:28 | Fordcars | lol |
| 00:20:34 | Lamp_ | I HATE THAT |
| 00:20:50 | Fordcars | I use Mango for IRC chat. It's an app |
| 00:21:17 | Fordcars | Search Mango2 lite in app store |
| 00:23:03 | Lamp_ | U live in Beloeil, Canada? |
| 00:23:20 | Fordcars | Nice, that's better :P |
| 00:23:29 | Fordcars | yeah, close to that |
| 00:23:32 | Lamp_ | I did your IP backwards |
| 00:23:37 | Fordcars | really? |
| 00:23:42 | Lamp_ | Yes |
| 00:23:48 | Fordcars | lol nice |
| 00:23:48 | Lamp_ | Not completely backwards |
| 00:23:56 | Lamp_ | But reordered the segments |
| 00:24:03 | Fordcars | oh ok |
| 00:24:10 | Lamp_ | Instead of 70 last I made 70 first |
| 00:24:21 | Fordcars | oh ok I understand |
| 00:24:39 | Lamp_ | Cuz I found IPs in hostnames are backwards |
| 00:24:51 | Fordcars | lol |
| 00:24:55 | Lamp_ | Want me to take a pic? |
| 00:25:02 | Fordcars | ok |
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| 00:26:37 | Lamp_ | http://catchmypicture.com/n1RgYN.jpg |
| 00:31:44 | Fordcars | hehe yeah |
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| 00:38:19 | Fordcars | brb changing computer |
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| 00:41:29 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 00:41:40 | - *Lamp89* h | *Lamp89* hi |
| 00:41:55 | - *Lamp89* this is me connected through Mango | *Lamp89* this is me connected through Mango! |
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| 00:42:07 | - *Lamp89* wow coo | *Lamp89* wow cool |
| 00:42:23 | Lamp89 | hi |
| 00:42:49 | Lamp89 | this is me connrcted through Mango |
| 00:43:13 | Lamp89 | woe this is cool, fordcars |
| 00:43:23 | Lamp89 | *wow |
| 00:45:20 | Lamp89 | hello? |
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| 00:46:52 | Lamp | yay |
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| 00:51:18 | Lamp | aww fordcars gone |
| 00:51:51 | Lamp | |
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| 01:24:10 | | bobdaduck has joined |
| 01:26:42 | raptor | hi |
| 01:29:55 | bobdaduck | Hello |
| 01:41:44 | bobdaduck | Um |
| 01:41:56 | bobdaduck | in the editor plugin curve tool |
| 01:42:04 | raptor | 62 points, yes |
| 01:42:05 | bobdaduck | ...why can it not have more than 50 as a barrier width? |
| 01:42:13 | bobdaduck | Like, seriously. |
| 01:42:15 | bobdaduck | WHY. |
| 01:42:19 | raptor | really? |
| 01:42:22 | bobdaduck | yes. |
| 01:42:22 | | raptor looks |
| 01:42:41 | raptor | well that's... dumb |
| 01:43:11 | raptor | what dould the max be? 100? 300? |
| 01:44:45 | raptor | ok, done |
| 01:45:11 | raptor | you can look at the change and do it yourself... |
| 01:45:17 | | BFLogBot Commit: c797eada5b98 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Allow larger barrier width in editor curve tool |
| 01:46:49 | bobdaduck | I need at least 230 for the level I'm making |
| 01:46:53 | bobdaduck | 500 would be good. |
| 01:47:29 | raptor | see the change here to change the plugin yourself: https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=c797eada5b98461ce26d04bb41298e6c54b325b1 |
| 01:53:02 | raptor | bobdaduck: i'm refining our announcement handler: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/10screenshot_2.png |
| 01:53:06 | raptor | suggestions? |
| 01:53:29 | bobdaduck | "ANNOUNCEMENT:" |
| 01:53:33 | bobdaduck | is tacky. |
| 01:53:37 | bobdaduck | I'd put a bunch of asterisks |
| 01:53:40 | bobdaduck | or tildes by it |
| 01:53:41 | bobdaduck | instead |
| 01:53:46 | bobdaduck | On both sides. |
| 01:53:58 | raptor | ok, colors OK/ |
| 01:54:00 | raptor | ? |
| 01:54:25 | bobdaduck | I'd go with red instead of maroon |
| 01:54:37 | raptor | it's neon red |
| 01:54:39 | raptor | ok |
| 01:54:44 | raptor | asterisks where? |
| 01:54:50 | raptor | around the word announement? |
| 01:54:57 | raptor | or just as a replacement |
| 01:55:46 | bobdaduck | *****THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT****** |
| 01:55:59 | raptor | takes too much room... |
| 01:56:00 | bobdaduck | ~~~~~~THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT~~~~~~ |
| 01:56:04 | raptor | ah ok |
| 01:56:14 | raptor | as in ***You will be assimilated*** |
| 01:56:51 | bobdaduck | yeah. |
| 01:59:33 | raptor | ok, how about this?: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/5screenshot_3.png |
| 01:59:58 | bobdaduck | excellent |
| 02:00:01 | bobdaduck | Except |
| 02:00:06 | bobdaduck | add one space before last asterisks |
| 02:00:08 | raptor | don't say it! |
| 02:00:09 | bobdaduck | make it pretty. |
| 02:00:16 | raptor | yes.. that's what i'm doing.. :) |
| 02:00:19 | raptor | ok |
| 02:00:27 | raptor | it lasts for 10 seconds, should i make it longer? |
| 02:00:38 | bobdaduck | Nah that's fine |
| 02:00:46 | bobdaduck | and if you want the middle text can be yellow. |
| 02:00:53 | raptor | ok |
| 02:00:53 | bobdaduck | Flashing colors make everyone notice. |
| 02:00:57 | bobdaduck | Its announcement, afterall. |
| 02:01:07 | bobdaduck | *clashing not flashing |
| 02:01:27 | raptor | ok |
| 02:02:47 | | Fordcars_ has joined |
| 02:02:52 | Nothing_Much | Hi Fordcars |
| 02:03:00 | Fordcars_ | hi NM |
| 02:04:10 | raptor | ok ready for this bobdaduck?: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/6screenshot_4.png |
| 02:04:30 | raptor | that definitely catches your eye... |
| 02:04:38 | bobdaduck | Yes, it does... |
| 02:04:38 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 02:04:44 | Fordcars_ | We really NEED to get Bitfighter Mobile working! |
| 02:04:53 | bobdaduck | I think I actually liked red better |
| 02:04:56 | bobdaduck | Fordcars: |
| 02:04:57 | Fordcars_ | on iOS or android |
| 02:04:58 | bobdaduck | No. |
| 02:05:05 | bobdaduck | No NO |
| 02:05:15 | raptor | Fordcars_: the iOS port works, except there is no way to move the ship |
| 02:05:38 | raptor | someone needs to code the virtual joysticks |
| 02:05:43 | Fordcars_ | lol, what about on screen analog stick or arrow keys |
| 02:05:55 | Fordcars_ | I would, but I can't compile :( |
| 02:06:03 | Fordcars_ | I have the sdk for like ios 2:/ |
| 02:06:11 | Fordcars_ | lol |
| 02:06:25 | bobdaduck | Wait, what bitfighter for iphone? |
| 02:06:31 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:06:34 | raptor | bobdaduck: it doesn't exist! |
| 02:06:39 | raptor | (especially not in the forums) |
| 02:06:41 | raptor | but |
| 02:06:52 | raptor | we have bitfighter compiled for android and iOS already |
| 02:07:06 | raptor | we just don't have any way to control the ships yet.. |
| 02:07:15 | raptor | they need some sort of input interface |
| 02:07:44 | raptor | koda did the work for iOS and I did the work for android |
| 02:07:47 | bobdaduck | It'd have to have xbox style controls... |
| 02:07:50 | bobdaduck | two joysticks |
| 02:08:02 | bobdaduck | That or force them to play relative. |
| 02:09:23 | raptor | heh, interesting idea with the relative |
| 02:09:55 | Fordcars_ | raptor, do you know objective-c? |
| 02:10:04 | Nothing_Much | If there's gonna be mobile ports, then make sure that they're compatible with their PC/Mac counterparts |
| 02:10:15 | Fordcars_ | of course! |
| 02:10:26 | Nothing_Much | I've heard that it's not possible or at least very difficult to do so |
| 02:10:29 | raptor | i do not know objc |
| 02:10:30 | | BFLogBot Commit: 94ea23deced8 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Announcement cosmetic changes |
| 02:10:46 | raptor | Nothing_Much: they're already compatible :) |
| 02:10:57 | Nothing_Much | Oh wow, that's awesome! |
| 02:10:59 | Fordcars_ | oh :P Objective-C is the language for touch screen and Gyro on iOs |
| 02:11:10 | raptor | but - we don't have the man-power at the moment to continue the ports |
| 02:11:23 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:11:23 | raptor | watusimoto might pick up android for the next release... maybe |
| 02:11:51 | Fordcars_ | ok |
| 02:12:16 | raptor | for iOS - i won't touch it... I don't like be frustrated continually |
| 02:12:51 | raptor | if i could code objective C and run the iOS VM outside of OS X, then i'd consider it |
| 02:13:18 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:13:55 | bobdaduck | Raptor we could do lunch again and figure out a control scheme? |
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| 02:14:04 | bobdaduck | Hi lamp |
| 02:14:05 | Lamp | hi |
| 02:14:15 | Lamp | im udong Mango |
| 02:14:26 | Lamp | *using |
| 02:14:26 | Lamp | :P |
| 02:14:46 | Fordcars_ | Hehe |
| 02:14:55 | raptor | i'm not very good with UIs... |
| 02:15:07 | raptor | that's why i'm constantly asking advice on how things look... :) |
| 02:15:10 | Lamp | UIs? |
| 02:15:20 | raptor | i'm talking to someone else Lamp |
| 02:15:20 | Lamp | yay |
| 02:15:23 | Nothing_Much | user interfaces |
| 02:15:54 | Lamp | fordcars_: This app is cool but i dont really like it |
| 02:15:58 | Fordcars_ | I seen allot of transparent analogues sticks on iOs |
| 02:15:58 | Lamp | back to the browser |
| 02:16:12 | Fordcars_ | yeah I know but its the only one I found :P |
| 02:16:17 | raptor | Fordcars_: are they responsive? |
| 02:16:32 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
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| 02:17:00 | Fordcars_ | They look standard |
| 02:17:09 | Lamp_ | Oops gotta log out of Mango |
| 02:17:16 | Fordcars_ | I know an iOs dev that couyld help a little |
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| 02:18:09 | raptor | well, since koda did all the work so far, i'm hoping he'll continue... |
| 02:18:14 | bobdaduck | I'm pretty good with UIs |
| 02:18:26 | Lamp | So you're talking about announcements? |
| 02:18:46 | Fordcars_ | the new iOs dev kit seems to have lots of apps for iOs coding |
| 02:19:03 | Lamp | raptor, there's a topic feature. I suggest you use it correctly. |
| 02:19:48 | Lamp | I was thinking of controls for bitfighter similar to X-type (online iOS browser game) |
| 02:20:24 | Fordcars_ | we should have 2 sticks, one for movement , the other for aiming? |
| 02:20:32 | raptor | Fordcars_: that's what koda was thinking, yes |
| 02:20:44 | Fordcars_ | or one for moving, and the finger for aiming? |
| 02:20:46 | bobdaduck | But |
| 02:20:48 | bobdaduck | how do you shoot. |
| 02:20:52 | bobdaduck | And how do you use modules. |
| 02:20:57 | Fordcars_ | shout shoot |
| 02:20:57 | bobdaduck | And how do you change weapons. |
| 02:20:58 | raptor | ^^ exactly |
| 02:20:58 | bobdaduck | See? |
| 02:21:02 | Fordcars_ | shout module 1 |
| 02:21:06 | raptor | haha |
| 02:21:08 | Lamp | Hmm |
| 02:21:25 | Fordcars_ | to hold, shout module 111111111111111111111111 :P |
| 02:21:31 | raptor | hahaha |
| 02:21:48 | Fordcars_ | but really you could use 2 fingers for module 1? |
| 02:21:55 | bobdaduck | My phone has a full keyboard (windows mobile 6.5) so that would work |
| 02:21:59 | bobdaduck | Iphones don't have that though |
| 02:22:10 | Lamp | This is what X-Type is if you're wondering: http://m.chromeexperiments.com/detail/x-type |
| 02:23:01 | Lamp | Also what if you wanna chat? |
| 02:23:11 | bobdaduck | Then you're screwed. |
| 02:23:18 | Lamp | I know... |
| 02:23:29 | Lamp | Put up a virtual keyboard |
| 02:23:31 | bobdaduck | Seriously, I need to meet with someone |
| 02:23:35 | bobdaduck | because paper and pen. |
| 02:23:37 | Fordcars_ | press a button, top left corner? |
| 02:23:51 | Lamp | Although problem with that is that there would be small space to see |
| 02:24:00 | bobdaduck | I'm thinking two joysticks on the bottom, and a button on top of each of them for module one and two |
| 02:24:13 | bobdaduck | and you tap the loadout indicator in the top left for weapon changes. |
| 02:24:25 | bobdaduck | Add another buttonto work as Z |
| 02:24:35 | Fordcars_ | an another for chat |
| 02:24:38 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:24:45 | Fordcars_ | lots of buttons , though |
| 02:24:55 | Fordcars_ | we should do shake to chat :P |
| 02:25:00 | bobdaduck | Smaller screen |
| 02:25:02 | bobdaduck | deal with it |
| 02:25:18 | raptor | bobdaduck: there is a forum thread that people have posted ui ideas for mobile |
| 02:25:26 | Lamp | You would only have two fingers tO control the game u know |
| 02:25:33 | Lamp | The thumbs |
| 02:26:01 | Lamp | Any more would. BE uncomfortable and hard to control |
| 02:26:06 | Lamp | Stupid keyboard |
| 02:26:06 | raptor | or we could just force people to connect a joystick or keyboard/mouse :) |
| 02:26:23 | Fordcars_ | lol |
| 02:26:24 | Lamp | Then what's the point |
| 02:26:50 | Fordcars_ | but it would be really neat to have a mobile version of Bitfighter :/ |
| 02:26:50 | Lamp | What go in a car or plane with your joysticks and set up a gaming station? |
| 02:26:58 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:27:05 | raptor | anyways... let me be clear: the mobile ports are no where near being done |
| 02:27:09 | Lamp | The poit of having it mobile is so you can play on the go |
| 02:27:39 | raptor | and no amount of pushing will make use work on them faster (especially the iOS port..) |
| 02:27:50 | Fordcars_ | yeah I know |
| 02:27:55 | raptor | :) |
| 02:28:11 | Lamp | I have an idea |
| 02:29:42 | Fordcars_ | wow I just compiled iOs version on mac 10.5 SDK? lol |
| 02:29:48 | raptor | really?? |
| 02:29:55 | Fordcars_ | 269 errors, though |
| 02:29:55 | raptor | does that have a VM available? |
| 02:29:58 | Fordcars_ | yet |
| 02:30:00 | raptor | ha |
| 02:30:02 | Fordcars_ | lol |
| 02:30:13 | Fordcars_ | but if I compile on iphone sdk |
| 02:30:31 | Fordcars_ | it doesn't work, but I have iPhone simulator |
| 02:30:36 | Fordcars_ | but its old :/ |
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| 02:31:30 | Fordcars_ | okkkkkk |
| 02:31:45 | Fordcars_ | yeah I compiled iphone version as mac sdk |
| 02:31:55 | Fordcars_ | 1682 errors yet |
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| 02:33:01 | Fordcars_ | how do you change the SDK for a project in Xcode! |
| 02:33:10 | Fordcars_ | the active sdk |
| 02:33:19 | raptor | i think you do target info? |
| 02:33:22 | Lamp | I wrote my idea but then I think I lost connection and didn't see it on the log. Now I have to rewrite it. |
| 02:33:34 | raptor | Lamp: we didn't get it |
| 02:33:50 | Lamp | I know |
| 02:34:01 | Lamp | Rewrite: |
| 02:34:59 | Lamp | What if there was an app for iOS that you can use to view bitfighter servers being played, but not play it? There would also be chat. |
| 02:35:30 | Fordcars_ | yeah, we could do that with ads |
| 02:36:41 | Lamp | Ads? Ads don't know how to program |
| 02:37:16 | Fordcars_ | we need money to post an app, and NO one will pay for an app that display servers |
| 02:37:26 | raptor | well, we have a public json file that shows what servers there are so people can write anything they want to hook in |
| 02:37:37 | raptor | this is it: http://bitfighter.org/bitfighterStatus.json |
| 02:37:58 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 02:38:10 | raptor | i think my second-born is left-handed... |
| 02:38:23 | raptor | sorry, that was a tangent |
| 02:38:43 | Fordcars_ | ok... |
| 02:40:09 | raptor | where'd bobdaduck go? |
| 02:40:30 | Fordcars_ | bobdaduck has quit (Quit: Page closed) |
| 02:40:33 | Fordcars_ | :P |
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| 02:48:04 | Fordcars_ | ok yeah I can't compile iOs higher than iOs 2 :/ |
| 02:48:26 | raptor | sorry... |
| 02:48:41 | Fordcars_ | PPC Xcode 3 :/ |
| 02:55:04 | Fordcars_ | well I could try to compile android, but I don't have an Android (I do have acces to an Android, though), and I never coded on Windows before :/ |
| 02:56:13 | raptor | we lost our android |
| 02:56:19 | Fordcars_ | ?? |
| 02:56:42 | raptor | we had an archos 101 given to us as a gift. we used it for music and videos around the house, but no internet |
| 02:56:42 | Fordcars_ | I have the source code right here |
| 02:56:54 | raptor | but we lost it, so i can't test on hardware anymore |
| 02:57:01 | Fordcars_ | I have one android |
| 02:57:06 | Fordcars_ | well acces to one |
| 03:01:10 | Fordcars_ | can you code Android on Mac? |
| 03:01:24 | raptor | yes |
| 03:01:29 | raptor | you start here: https://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html |
| 03:01:39 | raptor | but i hear it isn't easy... |
| 03:01:55 | Fordcars_ | is it easier on Windows? |
| 03:02:03 | raptor | i think so yes, and Linux |
| 03:02:12 | Fordcars_ | Well linux of course |
| 03:02:12 | | BFLogBot Commit: f37a74f08a1c | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix rendering too few lines when an announcement come in |
| 03:02:14 | | BFLogBot Commit: 63ad036b908a | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Make announcement last a little longer |
| 03:02:35 | Fordcars_ | I really need an Intel mac |
| 03:02:39 | raptor | heh |
| 03:02:50 | raptor | they're not cheap... |
| 03:02:58 | raptor | mac has never been cheap.. |
| 03:02:58 | Fordcars_ | yeah I know :P |
| 03:03:04 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 03:03:19 | Nothing_Much | well, they do use laptop parts for the majority of their products |
| 03:03:21 | Nothing_Much | right? |
| 03:03:34 | Fordcars_ | ehh well depends |
| 03:03:37 | raptor | not sure.. |
| 03:03:44 | Fordcars_ | what is a "Laptop part"? |
| 03:04:28 | Nothing_Much | slower, but more energy efficient CPU/GPU, 2.5" SSD, and SO-DIMMs |
| 03:04:42 | Fordcars_ | yeah maybe |
| 03:05:05 | Fordcars_ | well now they use more custom desktop parts |
| 03:05:13 | Nothing_Much | that explains the price then, because if you compare it to a high end windows all-in-one, it's practically the same price |
| 03:05:43 | Nothing_Much | maybe a little cheaper, but it's at least 1000$ for a high end nvidia GPU to be placed in an all-in-one |
| 03:05:44 | Fordcars_ | because windows don't make their computers, so it's cheaper to get a computer from Dell, for example |
| 03:07:29 | Nothing_Much | 649.99 for a 2nd gen core i3, 6gb ddr3, 1tb sata 2 drive, and intel graphics |
| 03:07:34 | Nothing_Much | now that's very cheap |
| 03:07:40 | Nothing_Much | but if you go to a high end |
| 03:08:18 | Fordcars_ | you're talking about Windows, right? |
| 03:08:24 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 03:08:53 | Fordcars_ | ok |
| 03:09:13 | Nothing_Much | now a high end has the latest intel CPU, only up to 16GB DDR3, 2TB sata (2 or 3, not sure), NVIDIA Geforce 640M, and a dumbass touchscreen |
| 03:09:20 | Nothing_Much | for 1299 |
| 03:09:25 | Nothing_Much | that's comparable |
| 03:09:29 | Nothing_Much | oh it's 27in too |
| 03:09:36 | Nothing_Much | but the specs are still lacking |
| 03:09:50 | Fordcars_ | yeah it is comparable. to iMac |
| 03:10:03 | Fordcars_ | 27inch? That price includes the screen? |
| 03:10:52 | Nothing_Much | it's an all in one |
| 03:11:03 | Nothing_Much | my mistake, it doesn't have a touchscreen |
| 03:11:06 | Nothing_Much | for the base model |
| 03:11:09 | Fordcars_ | oh ok it's a bundle |
| 03:11:29 | Nothing_Much | here's dell: http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-one-27-2710-aio-t/fs |
| 03:11:37 | Nothing_Much | and here's apple: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac |
| 03:11:47 | Nothing_Much | very comparable |
| 03:12:49 | Nothing_Much | oh wow, the highest model Dell only goes up to a Geforce GT 640M |
| 03:13:15 | Nothing_Much | apple on the other hand goes up to a Geforce GTX 675MX |
| 03:13:21 | Fordcars_ | oh ok |
| 03:13:45 | Nothing_Much | Holy- Even the prices don't make sense, Dell's well over 2grand for it's highest model |
| 03:13:51 | Nothing_Much | Apple's only 2grand |
| 03:14:17 | Fordcars_ | heh thats funny |
| 03:14:28 | Nothing_Much | the proof is in the all-in-ones |
| 03:14:30 | Nothing_Much | not the towers |
| 03:14:33 | Fordcars_ | yeah |
| 03:14:46 | Nothing_Much | good god, I hate desktops with touchscreens |
| 03:14:56 | Nothing_Much | the absolute dumbest concept ever |
| 03:17:57 | Fordcars_ | TOTALLY agree |
| 03:18:01 | Fordcars_ | the huge tablet |
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| 03:19:14 | Lamp | test |
| 03:19:14 | Lamp | hi |
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| 03:24:35 | Fordcars_ | ok guys gtg might be back soon |
| 03:24:44 | Fordcars_ | nice talking to you Nothing_Much! |
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| 03:26:20 | Nothing_Much | alright |
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| 03:37:24 | Lamp | Hello |
| 03:37:35 | Lamp | What are we talking about now |
| 03:38:59 | Lamp | Nothing_Much |
| 03:39:09 | Nothing_Much | Yes? |
| 03:39:19 | Lamp | Hi |
| 03:39:23 | Nothing_Much | Hello sir |
| 03:39:33 | Lamp | Is there a discussion going on? |
| 03:40:22 | Lamp | Looks like not |
| 03:40:29 | Lamp | :( |
| 03:40:43 | Nothing_Much | Not anymore since Fordcars left |
| 03:41:00 | Lamp | •.• |
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| 06:23:28 | Lamp | Hi |
| 06:23:46 | Lamp | I checked the log |
| 06:23:50 | Lamp | And |
| 06:23:52 | Lamp | Nobody talking |
| 06:23:58 | Lamp | :( |
| 06:24:41 | Lamp | Can't wait till it's morning in where others live and they log on the chat... |
| 06:25:12 | Lamp | Hello? |
| 06:26:01 | Lamp | I wonder if Nothing_Much is alive. |
| 06:26:15 | Nothing_Much | I should be sleeping by now |
| 06:26:16 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 06:26:23 | Nothing_Much | it's like |
| 06:26:27 | Nothing_Much | 1:26am here |
| 06:26:30 | Lamp | What time is it there? |
| 06:26:32 | Nothing_Much | and college starts tomorrow |
| 06:26:33 | Nothing_Much | :( |
| 06:26:35 | Lamp | Oh |
| 06:26:48 | Lamp | 10:26 pm |
| 06:26:52 | Nothing_Much | well, it started a week ago, it's just another week beginning college again |
| 06:26:57 | Nothing_Much | where are you? |
| 06:27:02 | Lamp | ? |
| 06:27:13 | Lamp | I'm In PST |
| 06:27:25 | Lamp | Pacific Standards Time |
| 06:27:55 | Lamp | What ya doing? U were doing something all day because u logged in all day |
| 06:27:56 | Nothing_Much | est |
| 06:28:08 | Nothing_Much | I mostly idle sometimes |
| 06:28:25 | Lamp | But you are at the computer... |
| 06:28:44 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 06:28:48 | Nothing_Much | doing other stuff |
| 06:28:54 | Lamp | If you shutdown/stand by your computer you log out |
| 06:29:18 | Nothing_Much | yeah I know |
| 06:29:39 | Lamp | I'm somewhere in the middle of nowhere :P |
| 06:29:45 | Nothing_Much | I'm either at college or doing other things on my pc lol |
| 06:30:07 | Lamp | Like... Play bitfighter? |
| 06:30:20 | Nothing_Much | actually trying to recruit some programmers for desurium |
| 06:30:36 | Lamp | What's desurium? |
| 06:30:50 | Nothing_Much | it's basically a game distribution client |
| 06:30:54 | Nothing_Much | free and open source |
| 06:31:01 | Lamp | Oh |
| 06:31:18 | Lamp | Anyway |
| 06:31:22 | Nothing_Much | I approached bitfighter to get it on desura (the main company) so they could get more exposure |
| 06:31:30 | | Lamp wants to do something else. |
| 06:31:38 | Nothing_Much | oh okay |
| 06:31:42 | Nothing_Much | oh man |
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| 06:31:48 | Nothing_Much | I'm finally tired |
| 06:31:49 | Nothing_Much | later |
| 06:32:17 | | Lamp says yay! Lamp says you should so sleep now |
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| 07:14:05 | Lamp | Hi |
| 07:14:27 | Lamp | Nothing_Much I thought you were sleeping. |
| 07:14:51 | Lamp | No wait |
| 07:14:55 | Lamp | Are you? |
| 07:15:12 | Lamp | Maybe you're leaving your computer on all night |
| 07:15:22 | Lamp | I dunno |
| 07:15:31 | | Lamp is confused |
| 07:15:42 | | Lamp is bored |
| 07:15:54 | | Lamp is gonna go now. |
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| 16:21:07 | | BFLogBot Commit: 7eb24e66b8ca | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Standalone mode can be triggered with a file 'standalone.txt'. This helps Windows standalone mode because Windows won't allow files with only an extension |
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| 18:22:08 | bobdaduck | I'M THE ONLY ONEEEEE |
| 18:25:42 | bobdaduck | NOBODY IN THE CHANNELLLLLL |
| 18:25:55 | bobdaduck | Well, Nothing much is here. But he doesn't count. |
| 18:26:10 | bobdaduck | BFlogbot is a terrible conversationalist though. |
| 18:26:14 | bobdaduck | And no idea what chanserv is. |
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| 19:03:56 | raptor | lonely huh? |
| 19:11:11 | bobdaduck | very |
| 19:11:11 | bobdaduck | Well no. |
| 19:11:11 | bobdaduck | Kinda. |
| 19:11:11 | bobdaduck | Sort of? |
| 19:11:11 | bobdaduck | A little. |
| 19:11:12 | bobdaduck | BFLogBot is a terrible conversationalist. |
| 19:11:12 | raptor | !bot |
| 19:11:12 | BFLogBot | I'm a real boy! |
| 19:11:12 | bobdaduck | See? |
| 19:11:12 | raptor | huh |
| 19:11:22 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:11:27 | raptor | it idles just as badly as we do... |
| 19:11:33 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:11:42 | bobdaduck | And I'm not sure what chanserv is. |
| 19:12:01 | bobdaduck | I'm afraid of talking to it |
| 19:12:09 | bobdaduck | I'm afraid it might be related to 4chan |
| 19:12:10 | raptor | it's freenode default bot that guarantees the channel doesn't disappear if everyone leaves.. |
| 19:12:32 | bobdaduck | ah. |
| 19:12:49 | bobdaduck | And BFLogBot does... What? |
| 19:12:52 | bobdaduck | Besides logs. |
| 19:13:02 | raptor | has come basic commands... |
| 19:13:09 | raptor | also posts commit logs |
| 19:13:27 | raptor | eats loads of memory... |
| 19:13:30 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:14:02 | bobdaduck | What kind of commands? |
| 19:14:15 | raptor | !help |
| 19:14:15 | BFLogBot | type !commands to see a list of commands |
| 19:14:31 | raptor | you can PM him to play with tthe commands |
| 19:15:11 | - *bobdaduck* !comman | *bobdaduck* !command |
| 19:15:14 | - *bobdaduck* !command | *bobdaduck* !commands |
| 19:15:23 | bobdaduck | hm |
| 19:15:34 | bobdaduck | He's not saying anything |
| 19:15:38 | - *bobdaduck* !bobdaduc | *bobdaduck* !bobdaduck |
| 19:15:44 | raptor | did you type '!commands' |
| 19:15:46 | raptor | ? |
| 19:15:49 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 19:15:51 | - *raptor* !command | *raptor* !commands |
| 19:15:54 | | kaen has joined |
| 19:15:54 | bobdaduck | Also tried !bobdaduck |
| 19:16:05 | bobdaduck | !bobdaduck |
| 19:16:05 | BFLogBot | Evil level designer |
| 19:16:06 | raptor | ok, maybe he doesn't work with PMs... |
| 19:16:09 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:16:11 | bobdaduck | !commands |
| 19:16:11 | BFLogBot | Commands: airlock bbb bitfighter bobdaduck bot bug bugs dedicated feature help hg kaen koda log log logs mercurial ninja raptor sam686 watusimoto |
| 19:16:26 | kaen | :| |
| 19:16:31 | bobdaduck | !airlock |
| 19:16:31 | BFLogBot | the bestest level EVAR!!1 |
| 19:16:32 | raptor | hi kaen |
| 19:16:34 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 19:16:38 | kaen | ahoy |
| 19:16:45 | bobdaduck | !bbb |
| 19:16:45 | BFLogBot | Big Bitfighter Battle! |
| 19:16:50 | bobdaduck | !bitfighter |
| 19:16:50 | BFLogBot | Fast, Fun, Frenetic |
| 19:16:50 | kaen | !dedicated |
| 19:16:50 | BFLogBot | To run your own dedicated server in linux, see: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosting_multiple_servers_on_Linux and http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Updating_a_Linux_server_to_the_latest_code |
| 19:17:08 | kaen | !ninja |
| 19:17:08 | BFLogBot | ninjas die in space |
| 19:17:09 | raptor | see? moderately helpful... |
| 19:17:18 | bobdaduck | ninjas die in space? |
| 19:17:20 | kaen | the best kind of helpful. |
| 19:17:31 | raptor | yeah, i don't remember where that one got its roots |
| 19:17:34 | bobdaduck | log is in there twice |
| 19:17:36 | bobdaduck | !koda |
| 19:17:36 | BFLogBot | Resident Apple evangelist |
| 19:17:42 | bobdaduck | !kaen |
| 19:17:42 | BFLogBot | Stats guru and SQL extraordinaire |
| 19:17:57 | bobdaduck | !feature |
| 19:17:57 | BFLogBot | To make a feature request, post in the forums at http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=4 or open an issue at: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list |
| 19:17:59 | kaen | it's funny because that stats suck and I'm terrible at SQL |
| 19:18:04 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:18:16 | bobdaduck | Its better than anything else we have, soz. |
| 19:18:18 | bobdaduck | !bobdaduck |
| 19:18:18 | BFLogBot | Evil level designer |
| 19:18:26 | bobdaduck | I haven't made an actual level in years. |
| 19:18:27 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:19:22 | raptor | for what its worth, kaen, you can add more commands to the INI at /home/raptor/bin/logbot/commands.ini |
| 19:19:25 | raptor | on the master server |
| 19:19:41 | kaen | neat :) |
| 19:19:42 | raptor | it auto updates every min or so |
| 19:20:18 | bobdaduck | I'm trying to think of all the bitfighter memes ever. |
| 19:20:28 | raptor | we have airlock |
| 19:20:32 | raptor | i think that's it? |
| 19:20:35 | bobdaduck | Zap dance |
| 19:20:40 | raptor | what |
| 19:20:40 | bobdaduck | You missed that one though. |
| 19:20:47 | bobdaduck | ...'cause it was back in Zap. |
| 19:20:53 | raptor | never heard of that.. |
| 19:21:01 | raptor | now it would be a... bit fit? |
| 19:21:01 | bobdaduck | Ask skylark about it |
| 19:21:13 | bobdaduck | A Zap dance xD |
| 19:21:32 | bobdaduck | Glomp Takyl |
| 19:21:40 | bobdaduck | Though with the removal of armor... |
| 19:22:51 | raptor | i'm thinking of either putting back the slidiness or removing it completely because... well... it has less value now |
| 19:22:57 | bobdaduck | Yeah |
| 19:23:21 | bobdaduck | What if all modules had a double-tap ability |
| 19:23:26 | bobdaduck | and we made armor's really overpowered? |
| 19:23:27 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:23:47 | bobdaduck | Repair could instaheal everything in a radius |
| 19:24:00 | bobdaduck | Cloak could make your ship change colors |
| 19:24:50 | bobdaduck | Sensor could... |
| 19:24:50 | bobdaduck | um... |
| 19:24:51 | raptor | this is the exact discussion i had with watusimoto when i first implemented pulse boost |
| 19:24:52 | bobdaduck | See farther? |
| 19:24:52 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:25:11 | raptor | and led to sensor doing the spybug with double-tap |
| 19:25:22 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 19:25:32 | raptor | armor was going to have a repulsive blast or something.. |
| 19:25:47 | raptor | repair was use all energy to insta-heal |
| 19:26:00 | raptor | cloak... didn't come up with one |
| 19:26:07 | raptor | maybe teleport randomly? |
| 19:26:09 | raptor | :) |
| 19:26:19 | bobdaduck | Armor could |
| 19:26:19 | raptor | but |
| 19:26:20 | bobdaduck | like |
| 19:26:22 | bobdaduck | remove bullets |
| 19:26:24 | bobdaduck | in a radius |
| 19:26:28 | bobdaduck | for a few seconds |
| 19:26:49 | raptor | i think _k was in on the discussion... he didn't seem keen on adding complexity |
| 19:27:17 | bobdaduck | Cloak double tap, the obvious option would be to make your ship change color to the enemy teams color. |
| 19:27:25 | bobdaduck | _K... Yeahhhhhhhh |
| 19:27:54 | raptor | from a purely developers point of view, it's great to add new, fun things! (right kaen?) |
| 19:28:03 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 19:28:05 | bobdaduck | Yeah |
| 19:28:18 | bobdaduck | But not from a gameplay perspective. |
| 19:28:18 | raptor | but from a players point of view... see, i can't think like this very well.. |
| 19:28:32 | bobdaduck | hah |
| 19:28:45 | bobdaduck | I sort of randomly switch between the two. |
| 19:28:47 | raptor | and that's why we got armor |
| 19:29:01 | raptor | and pulse |
| 19:29:11 | raptor | some stuff sticks... i was suprised pulse did... |
| 19:29:23 | raptor | *surprised |
| 19:29:35 | bobdaduck | I don't like it because I can never use it right. It needs its own key because I can't hit spacebar fast enough |
| 19:29:35 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:29:47 | raptor | there's a trick |
| 19:30:08 | raptor | hold down 'right' (or up, down, etc.) then double tap, then release |
| 19:30:26 | raptor | you don't go anywhere until you release.. |
| 19:30:37 | raptor | but not useful if you're running away |
| 19:30:52 | bobdaduck | Yeahhh |
| 19:30:58 | bobdaduck | just add a define keys option. |
| 19:30:59 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:31:16 | raptor | the problem is with joysticks.. |
| 19:31:20 | raptor | not enough buttons |
| 19:31:29 | bobdaduck | Then they don't have to define it |
| 19:31:33 | bobdaduck | they can just double tap. |
| 19:31:33 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:34:42 | bobdaduck | I'm not saying change its key, I'm just saying let me define it to something else. |
| 19:35:12 | raptor | yes that is a good idea |
| 19:36:10 | bobdaduck | An old tactic in Zap! |
| 19:36:15 | bobdaduck | was to tap boost |
| 19:36:20 | bobdaduck | on and off to conserve energy |
| 19:36:24 | bobdaduck | but still get places faster |
| 19:36:25 | raptor | ha, yeah |
| 19:36:39 | raptor | obsolete with energy recharge |
| 19:36:51 | bobdaduck | ...I always end up lauching into a wall, going absolutely nowhere, and then get fried because I have no energy. |
| 19:37:07 | bobdaduck | Happens at least once a game. |
| 19:37:26 | raptor | ha |
| 19:37:54 | bobdaduck | Also happens when I'm turboing in one direction and then try to stop and turbo in the other direction, and I just launch into the enemy base and die to the turrets. |
| 19:38:04 | bobdaduck | Its... A little frustrating. |
| 19:38:05 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:38:25 | raptor | sounds great for the enemy! |
| 19:38:53 | bobdaduck | Happens to other people too though xD |
| 19:45:28 | bobdaduck | Question: Is our lobby incoming sound the same as trillians received IM sound? |
| 19:45:43 | raptor | i don't think so... maybe |
| 19:46:35 | raptor | most sounds were there before i joined |
| 19:47:08 | bobdaduck | My coworker keeps getting trillian IMs |
| 19:47:12 | bobdaduck | And it beeps |
| 19:47:18 | bobdaduck | and I'm like BITFIGHTER?!? |
| 19:47:27 | raptor | haha |
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| 19:54:59 | bobdaduck | I was just thinking if we gave armor a double-tap option that was powerful enough to make it viable next to shield |
| 19:55:15 | bobdaduck | Then it could save the module |
| 19:55:50 | raptor | hmm.... |
| 19:57:10 | raptor | so ideas? |
| 19:57:46 | raptor | a field of some sorts? |
| 19:58:11 | raptor | repulse, attraction |
| 19:58:14 | bobdaduck | Repulsor field, fortification, aura, passive heal, damage enemies when hit, emp sort of area explosion (making it the only offensive module) |
| 19:59:02 | raptor | what is fortification? |
| 19:59:30 | raptor | increase armor of those around you? |
| 19:59:34 | bobdaduck | Fortification: You can double tap to increase your armor by a level (like maybe 1/8 each time?) |
| 19:59:35 | bobdaduck | OR |
| 19:59:43 | bobdaduck | You get stacks of armor for doing something |
| 19:59:56 | bobdaduck | So that you passively become a force to be reckoned with |
| 20:00:29 | bobdaduck | I'm imagining some ship with four times the normal armor charging an enemy base and everyone being like "OH CRAP OH CRAP OH CRAP" |
| 20:01:12 | bobdaduck | I like the second system |
| 20:01:28 | bobdaduck | But it might be really overpowered with repair or shield. |
| 20:01:52 | bobdaduck | But if bouncers pierce armor |
| 20:02:01 | bobdaduck | That could make bouncers a direct counter |
| 20:02:20 | raptor | every double tap needs 90% energy and increases armor up a level to a max of 3 <-- this might be interesting |
| 20:02:21 | bobdaduck | but all of this leads to a very rock paper scissors sort of dynamic when all I want is to be the hulk. |
| 20:02:43 | bobdaduck | Interesting yes, but with 2 second energy regen... Not really good. |
| 20:03:44 | bobdaduck | So a system where you gain power or stacks for every kill or point or something |
| 20:03:47 | bobdaduck | would work better. |
| 20:04:03 | raptor | hmm.. that would be complex |
| 20:04:04 | bobdaduck | Make the armor people WORK to become the incredible hulk. |
| 20:04:21 | raptor | repair tanks would be evil |
| 20:04:53 | raptor | i'm not sure we want people to gain advantage by kills... |
| 20:05:11 | raptor | that easily allows better players to stay better for longer |
| 20:06:57 | bobdaduck | What if we gave armor a double-tap active that was based on how many stacks of armor they have? |
| 20:06:57 | raptor | how do they get the stacks? |
| 20:06:58 | bobdaduck | Point gain or on kill |
| 20:06:58 | bobdaduck | Or perhaps passively |
| 20:06:58 | bobdaduck | for staying alive for a while |
| 20:06:58 | raptor | ^^ that might be better |
| 20:06:58 | bobdaduck | Or maybe make it backwards, so that getting hit gives them stacks |
| 20:07:02 | bobdaduck | Which means they're losing health but gaining a more powerful EMP or whatever it is. |
| 20:07:57 | bobdaduck | I like that, it could be cool. |
| 20:08:02 | bobdaduck | Hard to explain though |
| 20:08:12 | bobdaduck | also a graphic for armor stacks |
| 20:08:12 | bobdaduck | make the armor turn red |
| 20:08:28 | bobdaduck | GOING TO LUNCH BACK IN A BIT. |
| 20:08:29 | raptor | or just use a thinner yellow line, then double it? |
| 20:08:31 | raptor | ok |
| 20:11:41 | raptor | what do you think of all this armor changing stuff, kaen? |
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| 20:46:28 | Nothing_Much | Hey guys |
| 20:46:36 | raptor | hi |
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| 21:04:12 | bobdaduck | kback |
| 21:04:14 | bobdaduck | !log |
| 21:04:14 | BFLogBot | This channel is logged - http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/ |
| 21:04:43 | raptor | ok so two things: quartz' forums avatar disturbs me, and... did cloakdood set off Opti? |
| 21:05:11 | bobdaduck | 1: Yes. |
| 21:05:14 | bobdaduck | 2: Yes. |
| 21:05:42 | raptor | fun |
| 21:07:25 | bobdaduck | I'll respond to opti's rage thread... |
| 21:09:49 | Nothing_Much | Goddammit, who's dumb enough to respond to trolls like that? |
| 21:10:24 | raptor | well... we have some young internet netizens amongst us |
| 21:10:42 | Nothing_Much | Ohh |
| 21:10:47 | Nothing_Much | That makes sense |
| 21:11:19 | bobdaduck | About 75% of our community is in the age range of 10-15. |
| 21:11:19 | Nothing_Much | Well, if there's trolls like he says, permaban them and give the person responding a talking to about trolls |
| 21:12:00 | raptor | that's easy to do on the forums, but in-game it's difficult... |
| 21:12:26 | Nothing_Much | There's in game trolls? |
| 21:12:30 | Nothing_Much | Oh man |
| 21:12:33 | bobdaduck | Just cloakdood |
| 21:12:35 | raptor | that is what he's talking about |
| 21:12:36 | bobdaduck | But he's not a troll |
| 21:12:39 | bobdaduck | just more of a jerk. |
| 21:12:45 | Nothing_Much | Lemme see his posts |
| 21:13:03 | raptor | in-forums we patrol well enough (i particularly have an issue with posts that have personal attacks) |
| 21:13:23 | raptor | but yeah, in-game is the issue |
| 21:13:32 | bobdaduck | I've warned some of our younger members several times via PM about personal attacks |
| 21:14:08 | raptor | i usually edit their posts directly and leave a comment: "no personal attacks please" |
| 21:14:09 | Nothing_Much | That's good |
| 21:14:11 | Nothing_Much | Give them warnings |
| 21:14:14 | raptor | but, i don't access the off-topic forum.. |
| 21:14:16 | raptor | so i have no idea what happens there |
| 21:14:37 | Nothing_Much | Why? |
| 21:15:00 | Nothing_Much | Aren't you an admin? |
| 21:15:04 | raptor | because it was wasting too much of my time to read things going on there.. :) |
| 21:15:27 | Nothing_Much | Ohh, is it like, an unmoderated place of some sort? |
| 21:16:06 | raptor | it has moderators - i think bobdaduck and sam686 can moderate - but it's mostly for non-bitfightery stuff |
| 21:16:20 | Nothing_Much | Ah |
| 21:16:33 | Nothing_Much | Well here's something that's troubling me |
| 21:16:49 | Nothing_Much | "because I am getting false banned" |
| 21:16:53 | Nothing_Much | How is that possible? |
| 21:17:10 | bobdaduck | Its not |
| 21:17:12 | raptor | from Opti's post? I have no idea what he's talking about... |
| 21:17:23 | Nothing_Much | How's he getting false banned? |
| 21:17:26 | bobdaduck | He went onto little apples server and little apple kicked him, it looks like. |
| 21:17:31 | raptor | ha |
| 21:17:43 | Nothing_Much | Oh, was there testing going on? |
| 21:17:56 | raptor | well, we give server owners complete control over their servers |
| 21:17:58 | bobdaduck | Doesn't really matter why |
| 21:18:34 | raptor | in fact, i'm sure i've been kicked from LA's server a few times myself - usually it runs for a select group of friends. I have no problem with it |
| 21:18:54 | Nothing_Much | Ah, there should be a password on those servers then |
| 21:18:59 | Nothing_Much | But then again |
| 21:19:04 | Nothing_Much | It IS their server |
| 21:19:16 | raptor | correct |
| 21:19:25 | Nothing_Much | Now Opti from what I'm reading, sounds like he's 12 |
| 21:19:29 | raptor | so shame on the server admins as well :) |
| 21:19:38 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:19:49 | bobdaduck | Like I said, a lot of people are about 10-15. |
| 21:19:51 | raptor | bobdaduck: Drex? i don't understand |
| 21:20:08 | bobdaduck | He was the admin of the past forums. |
| 21:20:08 | raptor | he's 'rinzler' |
| 21:20:15 | bobdaduck | Best player in the entire game, ever |
| 21:20:17 | raptor | ah ok |
| 21:20:20 | bobdaduck | Egotisitcal |
| 21:20:30 | bobdaduck | pretty much a complete jerk 80% of the time |
| 21:20:36 | raptor | yeah, i can't believe how much he slaughtered me everytime i played against him.. |
| 21:20:41 | bobdaduck | And he was the forum admin |
| 21:20:49 | raptor | sounds like a fun combination |
| 21:20:49 | Nothing_Much | "was" |
| 21:20:58 | bobdaduck | When fights broke out his typical response was basically "You're all morons." |
| 21:21:25 | Nothing_Much | Personal attack, admin revoked |
| 21:21:26 | Nothing_Much | np |
| 21:21:26 | bobdaduck | When playing he would typically say nothing or very little, except to insult whoever he was playing against |
| 21:21:34 | bobdaduck | He was the sole admin. |
| 21:21:35 | raptor | ha |
| 21:21:50 | raptor | were these before the 'official' forums? |
| 21:22:02 | bobdaduck | No |
| 21:22:03 | raptor | at bitfighter.org? or for Zap!? |
| 21:22:08 | bobdaduck | Those WERE the official forums. |
| 21:22:11 | bobdaduck | For Zap!. |
| 21:22:12 | raptor | ah ok |
| 21:22:15 | bobdaduck | Well no |
| 21:22:22 | bobdaduck | Zap! didn't have an official forum. |
| 21:22:27 | bobdaduck | His was just where all the people were. |
| 21:24:05 | bobdaduck | So pretty much, in Drex's forum people like Opti would have been eaten alive. |
| 21:25:36 | raptor | good history to know.. |
| 21:26:04 | bobdaduck | It was not a happy-nice place. |
| 21:27:32 | raptor | well, i've made mistakes as an admin... |
| 21:27:40 | raptor | but i try to be a benevolent dictator.. |
| 21:27:59 | bobdaduck | No way man |
| 21:28:09 | bobdaduck | You're not even capable of the way Drex did things |
| 21:28:20 | bobdaduck | Like, you don't even have to worry. |
| 21:29:45 | bobdaduck | I can't think of specific examples because its been years |
| 21:29:55 | bobdaduck | But he was pretty harsh. |
| 21:30:24 | bobdaduck | Also he would just randomly ban people for stuff they did in game that he didn't like, or if he thought they were stupid or whatever. |
| 21:30:54 | raptor | yeah, see, i banned myself from the off-topic forums... :) |
| 21:31:12 | bobdaduck | No, like, banned from forums. |
| 21:31:15 | bobdaduck | Viewing and posting. |
| 21:31:19 | raptor | yuk |
| 21:31:33 | bobdaduck | To date I don't think we've ever banned anyone. |
| 21:31:37 | raptor | ok, well, new forums sound a bit better.. |
| 21:31:42 | raptor | ha, actually |
| 21:31:47 | raptor | who was it.. |
| 21:31:54 | raptor | cleverbot |
| 21:32:02 | raptor | he was post-moderated for like a week once |
| 21:32:13 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:32:28 | raptor | which is actually a pretty good idea.. |
| 21:32:29 | bobdaduck | Drex would never use that. It would be a month banned from the forums period, the end. |
| 21:32:34 | bobdaduck | lol, yeahhhhh |
| 21:33:07 | bobdaduck | So that was just how Drex did things. |
| 21:33:52 | raptor | ok. thanks for the history |
| 21:34:04 | raptor | oh |
| 21:34:05 | raptor | so |
| 21:34:30 | raptor | yesterday when you asked to meet again for lunch to plan out the mobile UI, i didn't mean to ignore you |
| 21:35:06 | raptor | but i won't be working on mobile for a while (maybe after the semester) |
| 21:35:32 | raptor | also where is watusimoto, i have Qs for him.. |
| 21:36:07 | bobdaduck | there we go |
| 21:36:18 | bobdaduck | Opti got kicked from LA's server a few times |
| 21:36:48 | raptor | maybe i should make a 'server ettiquete' post |
| 21:37:01 | bobdaduck | Eh |
| 21:37:10 | bobdaduck | Little Apple can kick people if he wants. |
| 21:37:17 | raptor | yes of course |
| 21:37:43 | | Fordcars has joined |
| 21:37:48 | bobdaduck | I don't think a "server ettiquete" post should be necessary at all. |
| 21:38:24 | raptor | well... if one thing is normal on the internet, it's lack of ettiquete.. :) |
| 21:38:30 | | Fordcars Quit (Client Quit) |
| 21:38:42 | raptor | am i even spelling that word right? |
| 21:38:44 | | raptor goes to look |
| 21:38:59 | raptor | argh: etiquette |
| 21:39:45 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:42:54 | bobdaduck | https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/554433_10151461599328125_35755335_n.jpg |
| 21:43:26 | raptor | haha |
| 21:43:40 | raptor | i love it |
| 21:43:48 | bobdaduck | Quartz just posted that to his facebook |
| 21:43:56 | raptor | hahaha |
| 21:45:06 | bobdaduck | Oh, looks like he posted it to the off topic section too. |
| 21:46:29 | | Quartz has joined |
| 21:47:01 | bobdaduck | le Quartz joins the channel |
| 21:47:08 | bobdaduck | This rocks. |
| 21:47:12 | Quartz | ... lmao |
| 21:47:18 | bobdaduck | The channel is now diamonds. |
| 21:47:24 | Quartz | Anything is possible |
| 21:47:26 | Quartz | When you're with Quartz. |
| 21:47:27 | Quartz | ;) |
| 21:47:41 | | raptor cannot follow conversations between Quartz and bobdaduck |
| 21:47:50 | Quartz | That's so going in our thread |
| 21:47:55 | | Lamp has joined |
| 21:47:59 | Lamp | Hi |
| 21:48:20 | raptor | hello |
| 21:48:22 | bobdaduck | Hi Lamp |
| 21:48:39 | Lamp | Reading chat log again lol |
| 21:48:59 | Lamp | lol |
| 21:49:07 | bobdaduck | http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/quartz-watch-crystal.jpg |
| 21:49:25 | Quartz | mmmm |
| 21:49:28 | Lamp | [21:04:43] <raptor> ok so two things: quartz' forums avatar disturbs me, and... did cloakdood set off Opti? |
| 21:49:32 | Lamp | i agree with raptor |
| 21:49:45 | Quartz | Hhaahahaha |
| 21:49:45 | Lamp | ˆ_ˆ |
| 21:49:52 | Quartz | My avi is the best |
| 21:49:57 | Quartz | Did you see the Location under it? |
| 21:50:04 | Quartz | Location: Murdering your family |
| 21:50:04 | Lamp | no let me look |
| 21:50:24 | raptor | yes, and... that... compliments the picture |
| 21:50:31 | Quartz | Yup |
| 21:50:33 | Quartz | IT does |
| 21:50:36 | Quartz | Have you seen the original |
| 21:50:45 | Lamp | http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/download/file.php?avatar=80_1359186908.png <-- Thats just creepy |
| 21:50:45 | Quartz | It's even worse, 'cuz it's two pics of the baby in one |
| 21:50:46 | raptor | don't think so |
| 21:50:54 | Quartz | And someone captioned it "I'm going murder your whole f@#%ing family" |
| 21:51:01 | Quartz | it's a viral internet meme image :P |
| 21:51:01 | Lamp | Fordcars's avatar is even more creepy |
| 21:51:29 | Lamp | http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/download/file.php?avatar=973_1339716115.png <-- that is creepy, srsly creepy |
| 21:51:42 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:51:52 | Quartz | Ahaha yeah I dunno what the heck that is. |
| 21:51:55 | Lamp | "watusimoto wrote: The bigger problem is, of course, that captchas suck." |
| 21:51:57 | Lamp | agreed |
| 21:52:08 | Lamp | i hate doing the captcha on the chat |
| 21:52:16 | Lamp | especially on an iOS device |
| 21:52:34 | Quartz | What bitFIghter needs, is deadmau5 music. |
| 21:52:48 | Quartz | I kid, I kid. Most tracks would be too distracting. Also. Legality. Lulz. |
| 21:52:48 | bobdaduck | Bitfighter needs moar dubstep and stuff. |
| 21:52:48 | Lamp | guessing from the name it sucks. |
| 21:52:55 | Quartz | haha I see what you did there |
| 21:52:58 | Lamp | noooooo dubsep |
| 21:53:04 | Quartz | moar ghosts 'n' stuff |
| 21:53:13 | bobdaduck | DUBSTEPPPP |
| 21:53:13 | raptor | 'music' is a bit of a stretch to call dubstep, isn't it? |
| 21:53:19 | Lamp | i hate dubsep |
| 21:53:22 | bobdaduck | You just haven't heard good dubstep |
| 21:53:24 | Quartz | Some dubstep is alright, just don't listen to Skrillex he sucks |
| 21:53:30 | bobdaduck | Anyone who says that hasn't. |
| 21:53:37 | Quartz | pretty much |
| 21:53:45 | bobdaduck | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8waJs9fMu0 |
| 21:53:51 | bobdaduck | I mean, if you don't like electronic then hey. |
| 21:53:52 | Quartz | Try Noisia or Klaypex |
| 21:54:03 | Quartz | Yeah lolz that's true |
| 21:54:03 | bobdaduck | Klaypex't |
| 21:54:17 | raptor | you see people keep telling me that, and i think to myself "you just haven't tried *good* cow intestines" |
| 21:54:23 | Quartz | I have no idea why Skrillex is most famous. He literally makes the worst dubstep. |
| 21:54:25 | Quartz | hahahah well said |
| 21:54:28 | Lamp | plz do not put dubsep in bitfighter or bitfighter would be ruined |
| 21:54:32 | Nothing_Much | Dubstep is horrific |
| 21:54:39 | Lamp | oh and i thnk u can add your own music in bitfighter |
| 21:54:47 | Quartz | 1. No one is actually going to put dubstep in bitFighter 2. Even if they did, you would easily have the option to not have it. |
| 21:54:57 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:55:01 | Lamp | maybe u can make a .xm audio file and add it to the music folder |
| 21:55:03 | bobdaduck | DABSTAP |
| 21:55:05 | Lamp | i should try that |
| 21:55:09 | bobdaduck | WABWABWABWABWAB |
| 21:55:15 | Quartz | lulz |
| 21:55:17 | | Lamp does not like dubstep. |
| 21:55:24 | bobdaduck | Check teh link |
| 21:55:33 | Lamp | me wishes you to not put it in the game. |
| 21:55:40 | raptor | bobdaduck: i'm not sure you're helping with Opti |
| 21:55:43 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:55:44 | | Lamp wishes you to not put it in the game. |
| 21:56:07 | bobdaduck | *shrug* |
| 21:56:13 | bobdaduck | Doesn't look like it. |
| 21:56:20 | | Lamp has joined |
| 21:56:24 | Nothing_Much | bob, I hope you're joking about liking that crap |
| 21:56:27 | | Lamp has joined |
| 21:56:27 | bobdaduck | But its not like I'm going to ban LIttle Apple for doing something in game. |
| 21:56:29 | | Lamp has joined |
| 21:56:32 | Lamp | lol |
| 21:56:36 | bobdaduck | I can never tell if I'm joking about liking dubstep |
| 21:56:44 | | Lamp is Lamp |
| 21:57:03 | Lamp | oh, bob is joking about he likes dubstep? |
| 21:57:09 | bobdaduck | I can't tell. |
| 21:57:12 | Lamp | that emans he doesnt? |
| 21:57:15 | Lamp | *means |
| 21:57:23 | Lamp | if you cant tell that mean you are joking |
| 21:57:28 | bobdaduck | Its an aquired taste. |
| 21:57:32 | Lamp | otherwise you wont say anything about it |
| 21:57:41 | raptor | like tripas |
| 21:57:46 | Quartz | wow opti |
| 21:57:47 | Quartz | just wow |
| 21:57:59 | raptor | but *only* your own homemade tripas |
| 21:58:05 | Quartz | lmao |
| 21:58:10 | Lamp | ima try it: |
| 21:58:20 | | Quartz kldjaf;dkl |
| 21:58:36 | | Lamp wants to try to add an .xm audio file in the music folder and maybe he could get it to work. |
| 21:58:36 | Nothing_Much | Dubstep just sucks |
| 21:58:46 | raptor | ok... so... back to bitfighter... |
| 21:58:47 | Nothing_Much | Just horrifically, it shouldn't even be a genre |
| 21:58:53 | bobdaduck | AND DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING BETTER, NOTHING_MUCH? |
| 21:58:53 | | Lamp agrees with Nothing_Much |
| 21:59:01 | Lamp | classical is better |
| 21:59:06 | Lamp | everything is beter than DUBSTEP |
| 21:59:06 | Nothing_Much | The music in BF is perfect |
| 21:59:11 | Lamp | yes |
| 21:59:14 | Quartz | lolz |
| 21:59:15 | | Lamp agrees again |
| 21:59:22 | Lamp | with nothing |
| 21:59:28 | bobdaduck | Get this man some 8-bit dubstep. |
| 21:59:36 | Lamp | who? me? |
| 21:59:41 | Lamp | :S |
| 21:59:43 | Quartz | http://25.media.tumblr.com/aecc9d9ee67e20e0b033629059d6e340/tumblr_mhailacJzC1qen6oro1_500.jpg |
| 21:59:48 | raptor | 8-bit.. is that like super mario 3? |
| 21:59:59 | raptor | haha |
| 22:00:02 | bobdaduck | Chiptunes, brotha |
| 22:00:06 | Lamp | 8-bit is old. |
| 22:00:07 | Nothing_Much | Chiptunes are awesome |
| 22:00:10 | Nothing_Much | But really? |
| 22:00:16 | Nothing_Much | Dubstep has to get into that genre too? |
| 22:00:16 | Lamp | ?? |
| 22:00:17 | bobdaduck | CHIPTUNE DUBSTEP |
| 22:00:18 | bobdaduck | COMING RIGHT UP |
| 22:00:19 | Nothing_Much | Give me a break |
| 22:00:25 | Lamp | ... |
| 22:00:27 | raptor | oh man, we went through so many chiptunes to try and find music for bitfighter |
| 22:00:30 | Quartz | wub wub wub REB REB RUB wub wub wwwwuuub |
| 22:00:35 | bobdaduck | Highest ranked search option on youtube |
| 22:00:35 | raptor | i can still feel my brain buzzing |
| 22:00:40 | bobdaduck | "chiptune" fills in "dubstep" |
| 22:00:57 | | Lamp hates dubstep. Lamp thinks it is one of the worst kinds of music next to 'heavy metal'... |
| 22:00:58 | bobdaduck | Oh for the love |
| 22:01:05 | Quartz | LMAO |
| 22:01:05 | bobdaduck | "chipstep" |
| 22:01:09 | Quartz | Lamp you have the worst taste ever |
| 22:01:12 | Lamp | .. |
| 22:01:15 | Lamp | no |
| 22:01:16 | Lamp | you do |
| 22:01:19 | Quartz | Didn't you just compliment classical? |
| 22:01:23 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:01:23 | Lamp | you have an upside-down taste |
| 22:01:31 | Quartz | Metal is the closest genre that we currently have to classical. |
| 22:01:31 | | raptor declares all disputes resolved |
| 22:01:44 | Lamp | your taste is upside-down in the worst part |
| 22:01:45 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:01:59 | bobdaduck | Its true, metal is really close to classical |
| 22:02:02 | Quartz | If you ignore the cookie-monster vocals heavy metal composition is the closest "new" thing we have to classical. |
| 22:02:08 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:02:11 | Lamp | i dont even know what "heavy metal" exactly is |
| 22:02:16 | Quartz | ...Then don't insult it? |
| 22:02:17 | kaen | ... |
| 22:02:19 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:02:22 | raptor | hi kaen |
| 22:02:25 | kaen | hello |
| 22:02:25 | bobdaduck | Hi kaemn |
| 22:02:33 | bobdaduck | We're arguing about dubstep! |
| 22:02:34 | Lamp | but i saw a video of a dancing parrot in "death metal" and i'm guessing "heavy metal" is the same |
| 22:02:35 | kaen | I highlight on the word "chiptune" |
| 22:02:36 | bobdaduck | Very fun |
| 22:02:52 | kaen | because I love them so much :3 |
| 22:02:54 | raptor | it's when doritos start singing, i hear |
| 22:02:54 | Quartz | Death metal =/= heavy metal |
| 22:02:57 | | Lamp does not want to argue about dubstep. One of the reasons is tht it sucks. |
| 22:03:06 | Quartz | Death metal is pretty bad most of the time |
| 22:03:08 | Lamp | quartz whatever |
| 22:03:12 | Lamp | yes |
| 22:03:29 | bobdaduck | I found chiptune dubstep |
| 22:03:32 | bobdaduck | but its not good dubstep |
| 22:03:33 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 22:03:35 | Lamp | ∆__∆ |
| 22:03:37 | Quartz | There are like, 20 different kinds of metal. Just like every other broad type of genre ... like folk or whatever |
| 22:03:37 | kaen | oh |
| 22:03:42 | kaen | I had high hopes :< |
| 22:03:57 | Quartz | BRB CHANGING PANTS. |
| 22:04:01 | bobdaduck | Its really imitative of mainstream dubstep stuff |
| 22:04:08 | kaen | laaaame |
| 22:04:09 | Lamp | i dont know much bout music |
| 22:04:29 | Lamp | hmm |
| 22:04:34 | kaen | Unicorn Dream Attack has good chipstep-ish stuff |
| 22:04:37 | bobdaduck | *shrug* here's one of the top chiptune dubstep results: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgK2o6T8sSk |
| 22:04:47 | bobdaduck | Lamp what sort of artists do you like? |
| 22:04:49 | kaen | but it's really, really, really ionian |
| 22:04:59 | Lamp | <img src=http://i.imgur.com/mgdwU.png /> |
| 22:05:04 | Lamp | nope HTML dont work |
| 22:05:11 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:05:15 | Lamp | @bobdaduck I dont know |
| 22:05:15 | kaen | lmao |
| 22:05:22 | Lamp | i dont know much about artists |
| 22:05:26 | kaen | you don't use @ either, Lamp :) |
| 22:05:29 | Nothing_Much | My opinion on Dumbstep: It starts off with a catchy tune, throws it out the window in favor of non-rhythmic, bland, over the top, and ungodly annoying modem sounds. |
| 22:05:31 | bobdaduck | I'VE GOT IT |
| 22:05:37 | Quartz | Lamp is big on 5 Finger Death Punch |
| 22:05:38 | Lamp | you use it to say "at" |
| 22:05:39 | Quartz | It's his fav band |
| 22:05:49 | Lamp | like on youtube |
| 22:05:52 | bobdaduck | I bet you guys will like this dubstep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro0lsIC3lmI |
| 22:05:52 | Lamp | ? |
| 22:05:55 | bobdaduck | Well, not lamp. |
| 22:05:59 | bobdaduck | But most of you guys. |
| 22:06:04 | bobdaduck | lol Quartz |
| 22:06:04 | Lamp | quartz, lier |
| 22:06:06 | | kaen has no sound card~ |
| 22:06:11 | bobdaduck | Kaen has what |
| 22:06:12 | bobdaduck | how |
| 22:06:15 | bobdaduck | do you even DO that |
| 22:06:16 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 22:06:20 | Lamp | i dont even know what "5 finger death punch" is |
| 22:06:25 | kaen | south bridge is burnt out. |
| 22:06:32 | Lamp | quartz -__- |
| 22:06:37 | Quartz | :D |
| 22:06:47 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:07:16 | bobdaduck | I've never much liked 5 finger death punch |
| 22:07:18 | raptor | kaen: that's great! |
| 22:07:19 | bobdaduck | They're not very hard. |
| 22:07:27 | kaen | what is? |
| 22:07:34 | kaen | UDA? |
| 22:07:37 | raptor | i should do that, then i don't have to worry about bitfighter sound system bugs... |
| 22:07:44 | kaen | oh lol |
| 22:07:45 | raptor | ignorance is bliss |
| 22:07:50 | kaen | yeah... |
| 22:07:55 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:07:59 | kaen | I actually heard bf's audio for the first time like a week ago |
| 22:08:05 | raptor | haha, really? |
| 22:08:05 | kaen | I watched a youtube video on my phone |
| 22:08:06 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 22:08:08 | raptor | haha |
| 22:08:12 | kaen | ... |
| 22:08:15 | bobdaduck | xDD |
| 22:08:28 | | Quartz_ has joined |
| 22:08:43 | Quartz_ | yeah no 5FDP is not that great bobby I don't blame you lol |
| 22:08:53 | Quartz_ | They're alright |
| 22:08:55 | Quartz_ | But not beyond alright |
| 22:09:01 | bobdaduck | These people would like klaypex' song "gamefire" |
| 22:09:04 | bobdaduck | Right? |
| 22:09:15 | Quartz_ | Still listening to it |
| 22:09:23 | Quartz_ | It's decent |
| 22:09:48 | bobdaduck | Decent |
| 22:09:49 | bobdaduck | but beyond that APPROPRIATE |
| 22:09:50 | Quartz_ | Fairly |
| 22:09:50 | bobdaduck | target audience bro! |
| 22:10:00 | Nothing_Much | Does anybody here use Fedora? |
| 22:10:06 | bobdaduck | I have one in my closet |
| 22:10:09 | Quartz_ | Same^ |
| 22:10:14 | bobdaduck | I don't wear it much because its kind of pretentuous |
| 22:10:15 | Nothing_Much | *Fedora Linux |
| 22:10:24 | Quartz_ | trollololo |
| 22:10:41 | | Lamp Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 22:10:45 | raptor | Nothing_Much: I have a VM or two of it |
| 22:10:56 | raptor | I use openSUSE which is also RPM-based |
| 22:11:06 | | Quartz Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 22:12:29 | Nothing_Much | How do you enable multiarch on it? |
| 22:12:30 | Nothing_Much | Not too familiar with Yum |
| 22:12:30 | | Fordcars has joined |
| 22:12:30 | raptor | like, you run x86_64 and want x86 libraries as well? |
| 22:12:30 | Nothing_Much | Yeah |
| 22:12:40 | raptor | usually you just ahve to install the appropriate -32bit variation |
| 22:12:45 | raptor | but it's been a while |
| 22:13:35 | raptor | so like have an RPM: bitfighter-018.x86_64.rpm |
| 22:13:35 | bobdaduck | Someone explain to me the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit, and tell me why I should care. Because like, all this software has 32 bit and 64 bit installs and I always just get the 64 bit ones because its a higher number. |
| 22:13:35 | | Fordcars Quit (Client Quit) |
| 22:13:35 | Nothing_Much | basically |
| 22:13:38 | kaen | yep |
| 22:13:43 | raptor | bobdaduck: you understand 2^32 is a big number right? |
| 22:13:48 | Nothing_Much | you utilize more RAM from a 64 bit OS |
| 22:13:56 | Nothing_Much | because 32bit only uses up to 3gb |
| 22:14:04 | Nothing_Much | 64bit goes up to 128GB |
| 22:14:13 | raptor | 2^32 is like 4 billion, roughly |
| 22:14:18 | raptor | so a 32 bit machine is limited in memory |
| 22:14:19 | bobdaduck | So should I get 32 bit instead to save ram? |
| 22:14:27 | Nothing_Much | no |
| 22:14:32 | kaen | also, 64bit opcodes are organized into triplets which are (ideally) executed in parallel |
| 22:14:38 | Nothing_Much | it'll be sluggish for what OSs have nowadays |
| 22:14:48 | kaen | in addition to the benefits of actual threading |
| 22:15:58 | bobdaduck | Uh... Kay. |
| 22:16:04 | raptor | bobdaduck: math |
| 22:16:19 | raptor | 2 to the 32nd power number of memory |
| 22:16:23 | raptor | is 32bit |
| 22:16:27 | bobdaduck | right |
| 22:16:29 | bobdaduck | I got that part |
| 22:16:36 | Quartz_ | math |
| 22:16:37 | bobdaduck | as soon as someone talked about threading and parallels |
| 22:16:37 | Quartz_ | maths |
| 22:16:38 | raptor | so 2 to the 64th power is mega memory |
| 22:16:50 | bobdaduck | so I can get a 128 bit version? |
| 22:17:07 | raptor | bobdaduck: those exist in mainframe situations |
| 22:18:25 | Nothing_Much | oh my god |
| 22:18:25 | Nothing_Much | that opti guy's got issues |
| 22:18:25 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:18:25 | Quartz_ | ahhaha |
| 22:18:25 | raptor | also at least kaen didn't start talking about how x86_64 is *really* 48 bits |
| 22:18:26 | Quartz_ | He's just a kid acting like a dramatic kid. I went through the same motions |
| 22:18:26 | Quartz_ | We should definitely just put 2 hours of nightcore and trance in bitFighter |
| 22:18:26 | Quartz_ | trollololo |
| 22:18:26 | | raptor reminds himself that this is a public channel before talking |
| 22:18:26 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:18:26 | raptor | except i fail |
| 22:18:29 | | Quartz_ doesn't bother doing that, he likes gossip |
| 22:19:08 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 22:19:08 | Nothing_Much | I'm a drama whore |
| 22:19:08 | Quartz_ | same |
| 22:19:09 | Nothing_Much | I just love to see drama work the way it does |
| 22:19:09 | Quartz_ | I keep it on the down low at this point, but I'll admit it's part of me. |
| 22:19:17 | raptor | haha |
| 22:19:21 | Nothing_Much | I'm not a drama Queen like Opti is though |
| 22:19:26 | Nothing_Much | He needs a break |
| 22:19:33 | Quartz_ | Well, he appears to be taking one, sooo |
| 22:19:34 | bobdaduck | I'm a psychologist and I get lost in analyzing the dynamics of the drama |
| 22:19:39 | Quartz_ | xD yup |
| 22:19:46 | bobdaduck | takes me like days to sort through it so I tend to avoid it xD |
| 22:19:48 | Nothing_Much | bob, you serious? |
| 22:20:30 | Nothing_Much | 'bout the psychologist thing |
| 22:20:30 | kaen | he's seriously psycho. |
| 22:20:30 | raptor | i can't help but think Opti is trolling bobdaduck |
| 22:20:30 | bobdaduck | DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY FACTORS EXIST IN HUMAN INTERACTION? |
| 22:20:30 | Quartz_ | millions |
| 22:20:30 | bobdaduck | I HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE ONE. |
| 22:20:30 | raptor | ONE: food now or die |
| 22:20:31 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 22:20:32 | Quartz_ | TWO: sex now or die |
| 22:20:39 | bobdaduck | THREE: Dubstep. |
| 22:20:48 | Nothing_Much | raptor, if he really was trollin', his posts would be more uh.. less dramatic |
| 22:21:07 | Nothing_Much | and more uh.. |
| 22:21:07 | kaen | nope, he's just flaming hard |
| 22:24:47 | bobdaduck | Yes, psychologist thing. |
| 22:24:47 | bobdaduck | I'm studying to become one, anyway. |
| 22:24:47 | Nothing_Much | nice |
| 22:24:47 | Nothing_Much | Drama's easy to comprehend imo |
| 22:24:47 | Nothing_Much | sometimes |
| 22:24:47 | raptor | i'm studying to get the gist of psychos |
| 22:24:47 | Quartz_ | Flaming ... hard? You could've worded that better. |
| 22:24:47 | bobdaduck | Its like flaming soft |
| 22:24:47 | Quartz_ | Except ... it's hard. |
| 22:24:48 | bobdaduck | The flames are now diamonds! |
| 22:24:48 | kaen | he is observably frustrated. |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Or just flaming in general |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | "Why are you so awkward around women dude?" "Look, when you talk to a woman that beautiful ... it's just, hard." |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | think about that for a moment |
| 22:24:48 | bobdaduck | He is observably frustrated indeed. |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | Yup |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | All logic out the window frustrated |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | Been there |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | Done that |
| 22:24:48 | bobdaduck | I'ma make him a questionare to fill out for me when he calms down. |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | Will be there again sometime |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Quartz_, me too |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | Will do it again sometime |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Well maybe not do it again |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Or actually |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Maybe I have |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | But I've improved, instead of just flaming, I bring up points |
| 22:24:48 | kaen | sounds like he got banned from a server? |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | The air traffic in Malibu is nucking futs. Sometimes I look in the sky at night and see 20 planes. |
| 22:24:48 | bobdaduck | Little Apples. |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | In a more semi-civilized manner |
| 22:24:48 | kaen | oh |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | I'm used to like ... 2 planes |
| 22:24:48 | kaen | maybe we should send them to the corner until they can get along |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | xD |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | What's with Little_Apples' server and why'd he kick him? |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Opti's not in charge of someone else's server |
| 22:24:48 | Quartz_ | Probably ask footloose |
| 22:24:48 | kaen | indeed |
| 22:24:48 | Nothing_Much | Send him to the corner |
| 22:24:48 | kaen | opti can make his own server |
| 22:24:48 | bobdaduck | Little Apple was thinking it was funny that Opti was getting so frustrated. |
| 22:24:49 | kaen | and ban LA |
| 22:24:52 | kaen | and all will be well |
| 22:25:02 | Nothing_Much | That makes no sense |
| 22:25:29 | Quartz_ | From what I see, LA and Opti were going at it and Footloose was spectating |
| 22:25:29 | Quartz_ | Soooo Footloose is probably the best person to talk to about it |
| 22:25:29 | bobdaduck | Asking her now |
| 22:25:29 | bobdaduck | via skype |
| 22:25:29 | Quartz_ | coo |
| 22:25:29 | raptor | footloose is *always* the best person |
| 22:25:29 | Quartz_ | haha |
| 22:25:29 | kaen | I don't think anyone needs to be talked too... |
| 22:25:29 | Nothing_Much | Oh, LA was doing something, but on his server or on the forums? |
| 22:25:30 | Quartz_ | She surprised me |
| 22:25:43 | Quartz_ | When I finally played with her. She kicks my ass at the game fair and square. I thought she was just some noob. |
| 22:25:47 | bobdaduck | WELL n it was kick not ban. he nvr banned him |
| 22:25:53 | raptor | also she's impossible to kill while chasing her with the flag |
| 22:25:57 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:26:56 | Quartz_ | Little_Apple's server is now DIAMONDS |
| 22:26:59 | | Watusimoto has joined |
| 22:27:04 | bobdaduck | Hi wat |
| 22:27:12 | bobdaduck | WAT'S UP? |
| 22:27:15 | Quartz_ | HAR HAR HAR. |
| 22:27:20 | Nothing_Much | Hello sir |
| 22:27:22 | Quartz_ | rimshot |
| 22:27:59 | bobdaduck | Still talkin' to foot |
| 22:28:18 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 22:28:22 | raptor | hi |
| 22:28:24 | bobdaduck | She is... eccentric. |
| 22:28:33 | Quartz_ | Like this? |
| 22:28:33 | Quartz_ | http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3q0daTPh51qdyi1to1_500.jpg |
| 22:28:45 | Quartz_ | "Still talkin' to foot." |
| 22:28:51 | Nothing_Much | ew |
| 22:28:51 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 22:29:00 | Watusimoto | it's 11"30 pm here... I had fallen asleep, but my wife made me go down to the cold basement and do bike repairs |
| 22:29:04 | Nothing_Much | Wait, talking via voice or text? |
| 22:29:23 | bobdaduck | text |
| 22:29:27 | bobdaduck | I'm at work silly. |
| 22:29:29 | Nothing_Much | If there's someone who can challenge my erraticness through voi- |
| 22:29:31 | Nothing_Much | Oh darn |
| 22:29:37 | Quartz_ | sext |
| 22:29:37 | Nothing_Much | Oh |
| 22:29:39 | Quartz_ | I'm at work silly. |
| 22:29:51 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 22:30:01 | raptor | bike repairs! |
| 22:30:03 | Nothing_Much | Oh you people have skype too? |
| 22:30:06 | Quartz_ | yup |
| 22:30:07 | raptor | i love bike repairs |
| 22:30:08 | Quartz_ | quartzlcc |
| 22:30:08 | Quartz_ | ad me |
| 22:30:15 | bobdaduck | She's still working on actually getting to telling me what happened |
| 22:30:19 | bobdaduck | Very story-like. |
| 22:30:19 | Quartz_ | Hahaha! |
| 22:30:37 | raptor | Watusimoto: i tried tracking down the bot problems.. and i'm baffled |
| 22:30:52 | raptor | i even played one game with s_bot for 5 min before they all crashed |
| 22:31:06 | Nothing_Much | if that's your first and last name quartz |
| 22:31:11 | Nothing_Much | then I suggest changin' it |
| 22:31:13 | Nothing_Much | or somethin' |
| 22:31:17 | Nothing_Much | unless ya don't mind |
| 22:31:19 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:31:32 | bobdaduck | Nah his real name is better |
| 22:31:36 | Quartz_ | Me? |
| 22:31:53 | bobdaduck | jah |
| 22:31:54 | Quartz_ | yeah suck it |
| 22:31:56 | Watusimoto | use 5 sbots... that usually crashes within 30 seconds |
| 22:31:58 | Nothing_Much | Yeah Quartz_ |
| 22:31:59 | Quartz_ | Can't you just label it "Quartz"? |
| 22:32:04 | Watusimoto | creats lots more objects |
| 22:32:13 | bobdaduck | His first name is Quartz |
| 22:32:16 | Nothing_Much | Add me first |
| 22:32:17 | bobdaduck | His last name is _ |
| 22:32:21 | Quartz_ | :P |
| 22:32:39 | raptor | Watusimoto: i also got it crash on orbitbot when adding a line: local vel = testItem:getVel() |
| 22:32:49 | raptor | it said: got userdata, expected MoveItem |
| 22:32:54 | raptor | or something like that |
| 22:33:14 | Watusimoto | that might be a different problem |
| 22:33:14 | bobdaduck | So it sounds like its just like Opti says. LA was hosting a server and was kicking Opti repeatedly to make him mad. |
| 22:33:33 | Watusimoto | because the issue I'm working on is that getVel() is returning a null |
| 22:33:50 | Watusimoto | which is actually ok under some circumstances |
| 22:33:57 | Watusimoto | just not our circumstances |
| 22:34:12 | Watusimoto | it can return nil if the underlying object is defunct |
| 22:34:26 | bobdaduck | And so blackbird walks into the thread talking like a judicial witness |
| 22:34:28 | bobdaduck | thecrap is this |
| 22:34:28 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 22:34:57 | Watusimoto | raptor: but that will (should) only happen if you hold on to an object over time -- in s_bot we're grabbing all the objects and using them the same frame; there is no time for things to become defunct |
| 22:35:13 | Quartz_ | Judicial Witness or Jehovah's Witness? |
| 22:36:02 | Watusimoto | raptor: defuct == we create a proxy for each c++ object; the proxy's life is controlled by lua; when the c++ object is deleted, we say the proxy is defunct |
| 22:36:37 | Quartz_ | Wow, that comment from blackbird is NO help at all |
| 22:36:44 | raptor | Watusimoto: so you think it is the non-defunct objects is the problem? we're re-grabbing them? |
| 22:37:33 | bobdaduck | Should I remove blackbirds comment? |
| 22:37:41 | Quartz_ | I would vote in favor of that, but idk |
| 22:38:06 | Watusimoto | raptor: no; I think I fixed that problem; I think the problem is related to ... hell, I don't know |
| 22:38:06 | Nothing_Much | I wouldn't |
| 22:38:22 | Nothing_Much | Mostly because he's not harming anybody nor is he insulting anybody |
| 22:38:39 | Nothing_Much | And he does have a point |
| 22:38:50 | bobdaduck | Okay |
| 22:38:54 | bobdaduck | Opti is going to read that |
| 22:38:54 | Watusimoto | raptor: my next test is to make the proxy table not be a weak table (look for the place with "v" (in quotes) in the code, there is a link there that explains what a weak table is |
| 22:38:57 | bobdaduck | and be gone though. |
| 22:38:58 | Nothing_Much | I always see people repeat the phrase "Don't feed the troll", but constantly forget about it |
| 22:39:14 | Nothing_Much | Like they don't think it applies to them or some crap like that |
| 22:39:22 | bobdaduck | Keep in mind Opti currently believes the entire community is full of trolls out to get him. |
| 22:39:56 | Quartz_ | ^ |
| 22:40:16 | bobdaduck | Blackbirds post = another troll, out to get him. |
| 22:40:25 | Quartz_ | ^ |
| 22:40:26 | Nothing_Much | Don't sugar coat Opti |
| 22:40:56 | Nothing_Much | He should learn a lesson, by knowing what a troll is and how to deal with them |
| 22:41:21 | Quartz_ | He will. All in due time. |
| 22:41:21 | Nothing_Much | Because if he says "troll" then I'm automatically going to assume that he already KNOWS how trolls work |
| 22:41:49 | raptor | i think i want to ban myself from all the forums now... |
| 22:41:50 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 22:42:08 | raptor | Watusimoto: you shoudl see the /announce command now |
| 22:42:12 | raptor | all cleaned up |
| 22:42:40 | Watusimoto | will do |
| 22:42:51 | Watusimoto | here is the link I was mentioning... it's now in another place |
| 22:42:52 | Watusimoto | http://lua-users.org/wiki/WeakTablesTutorial |
| 22:45:17 | raptor | ah ok, weak links make so much more sense now |
| 22:46:30 | Watusimoto | unfortunately, this requires a lengthy full recompile for everything I test |
| 22:46:49 | raptor | yay headers |
| 22:47:15 | bobdaduck | Oh |
| 22:47:20 | bobdaduck | and forum members section |
| 22:47:22 | bobdaduck | is broken. |
| 22:47:37 | bobdaduck | you can load the memberslist |
| 22:47:46 | bobdaduck | but you can't search by letter or anything like that |
| 22:48:20 | raptor | has that ever worked? |
| 22:48:44 | bobdaduck | I dunno. |
| 22:48:49 | bobdaduck | It doesn't right now though xD |
| 22:49:02 | raptor | post that in the metaforum |
| 22:49:19 | raptor | (do we have a meta forum?) |
| 22:49:35 | bobdaduck | yes |
| 22:49:40 | bobdaduck | but too lazy |
| 22:49:58 | bobdaduck | metaforum sooo far awayyyy |
| 22:50:16 | raptor | yeah.. distances on the internet are HUGE |
| 22:50:26 | bobdaduck | like |
| 22:50:29 | bobdaduck | four clicks |
| 22:50:33 | bobdaduck | srlsy. |
| 22:57:52 | Watusimoto | ok, making the weak table strong does not help |
| 23:03:17 | raptor | Quartz_: thanks for promoting healing between players... |
| 23:03:27 | raptor | ok, leaving for a bit |
| 23:03:29 | Quartz_ | sure thing |
| 23:03:39 | bobdaduck | What'd I miss? |
| 23:04:00 | raptor | go take my place on Quartz_'s server, bobdaduck |
| 23:04:10 | bobdaduck | I'm at work... |
| 23:04:49 | bobdaduck | AND I CAN'T GET IN TO QUARTZ' SERVER ANYWAY |
| 23:04:55 | bobdaduck | *piercing stare* |
| 23:06:50 | | raptor Quit () |
| 23:07:38 | | LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 23:08:19 | Nothing_Much | it just crashed on me :( |
| 23:09:59 | Nothing_Much | also, for the linux version, is there supposed to be a full-fullscreen option so that my panel doesn't show? |
| 23:24:01 | Quartz_ | hahaha |
| 23:24:03 | Quartz_ | wow |
| 23:24:18 | Nothing_Much | what? |
| 23:25:14 | Quartz_ | Just bob's post up there |
| 23:25:49 | bobdaduck | where? |
| 23:25:59 | Quartz_ | [15:04] <bobdaduck> I'm at work... [15:05] <bobdaduck> AND I CAN'T GET IN TO QUARTZ' SERVER ANYWAY [15:05] <bobdaduck> *piercing stare* |
| 23:26:11 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 23:26:26 | Quartz_ | You missed out |
| 23:26:32 | Quartz_ | 6 player Launchpad McQuack |
| 23:26:39 | bobdaduck | How was it? |
| 23:26:41 | Quartz_ | Also 2v3 on Ducks Rock. The 2 team actually won. |
| 23:26:53 | bobdaduck | nice |
| 23:26:54 | Quartz_ | It was good except that footloose just suicide bombed |
| 23:26:58 | Quartz_ | And it worked |
| 23:27:05 | Quartz_ | Sooo ... guess I need to redesign. |
| 23:27:33 | Quartz_ | Opti and LA were both there |
| 23:27:40 | Quartz_ | LA just came in and said "Hello person who hates me" |
| 23:27:47 | Quartz_ | And I just said "Apple shut up or I will bury you alive" |
| 23:27:54 | Quartz_ | He said "k :D" and not another word was spoken lmao |
| 23:28:04 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 23:29:47 | bobdaduck | Where's sam? Isn't he usually here? |
| 23:35:13 | bobdaduck | He could probably fix Quartz port forwarding problems. |
| 23:41:40 | Quartz_ | We haven't even had any issues as of late :P |
| 23:41:57 | Quartz_ | guhhh I'm so tired |
| 23:42:30 | bobdaduck | sleep? |
| 23:42:35 | Quartz_ | I could take a nap idk |
| 23:42:47 | bobdaduck | I might nap when I get home |
| 23:42:52 | Quartz_ | I have a speech *and* a test tomorrow D: |
| 23:42:59 | bobdaduck | I like speeches |
| 23:43:01 | bobdaduck | and tests |
| 23:43:08 | Quartz_ | I might like the speech, we'll see |
| 23:43:10 | Quartz_ | The test lolno |
| 23:43:12 | bobdaduck | Homework is busywork and I have a hard time with that. |
| 23:43:25 | Quartz_ | I just hate school in general lol |
| 23:43:35 | Quartz_ | I used to have a better attitude about all that but certainly not right now... |
| 23:43:41 | bobdaduck | Yeah. |
| 23:44:21 | Quartz_ | Already 1/5 done with this semester though lol |
