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| 00:00:57 | bobdaduck | http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&p=17296#p17296 |
| 00:05:21 | Nothing_Much | uh |
| 00:06:14 | Nothing_Much | I think Lamp's trollin' with that |
| 00:06:16 | Nothing_Much | post |
| 00:06:58 | Nothing_Much | It's a form of sarcasm, often used in allcaps |
| 00:08:22 | bobdaduck | No |
| 00:08:25 | bobdaduck | Lamp is like 11 |
| 00:08:32 | bobdaduck | And doesn't yet understand sarcasm. |
| 00:08:35 | bobdaduck | He's totally serious :P |
| 00:08:46 | bobdaduck | Hence the triple post. |
| 00:08:57 | amgine1234567890 | yes im "never" good at be sarcastic |
| 00:12:22 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 00:12:30 | Nothing_Much | well try to keep it down a bit lol |
| 00:13:54 | bobdaduck | Will add more to the thread when I get home |
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| 00:56:52 | bobdaduck | Hi dino |
| 00:58:07 | Nothing_Much | dino? |
| 00:58:38 | bobdaduck | Dinosaur |
| 00:58:50 | Nothing_Much | I see nobody named Dinosaur |
| 00:58:58 | bobdaduck | Raptor is a dinosaur |
| 00:59:10 | Nothing_Much | Could also just be a reptile |
| 00:59:23 | bobdaduck | I don't think he would respond to reptile |
| 00:59:28 | bobdaduck | Reptile is a dubstep song. |
| 01:00:10 | Nothing_Much | Dumbstep = bleh |
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| 01:02:47 | bobdaduck | You said that last time! |
| 01:04:30 | Nothing_Much | Just to tick you off :) |
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| 01:11:41 | raptor | did LA just make a bitfighter emoticon? |
| 01:12:25 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 01:12:30 | bobdaduck | MAYBE. |
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| 01:18:00 | amgine1234567890 | cough |
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| 01:32:53 | raptor | well... we're so close to releasing... but we have an evil Lua bug |
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| 01:54:40 | Little_Apple | hello |
| 01:55:54 | bobdaduck | Hai |
| 01:56:12 | raptor | hi |
| 01:56:27 | Little_Apple | does anyone know of any good screen recorders? |
| 01:56:39 | Little_Apple | (for mac) |
| 02:02:30 | bobdaduck | Nothing_much or kaen might know |
| 02:04:24 | amgine1234567890 | sorry i use windows |
| 02:04:39 | amgine1234567890 | windows > mac> linux |
| 02:11:48 | | Lamp has joined |
| 02:12:05 | Lamp | What do I do when I have a crash report I want to report? |
| 02:12:30 | Lamp | I know of a place for it at code.google.com but it said that It needs to be "approved". |
| 02:12:39 | Lamp | I want more info please. |
| 02:12:42 | Lamp | raptor |
| 02:12:58 | raptor | hi |
| 02:13:08 | Lamp | http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1707&p=17319 |
| 02:13:28 | Lamp | raptor: read previous messages |
| 02:14:10 | raptor | thanks Lamp, we already fixed that bug |
| 02:14:19 | raptor | sorry it's in 018 |
| 02:14:58 | Lamp | isnt 018 the latest release? |
| 02:15:02 | Lamp | I think I have that |
| 02:15:06 | raptor | yes |
| 02:15:13 | raptor | it's fixed for next release |
| 02:15:18 | Lamp | It's fixed in a beta |
| 02:15:29 | Lamp | But what If I want to report a bug? |
| 02:15:44 | Lamp | Theres some place at code.google.com for it but it said that it needs to be "approved" first |
| 02:16:51 | Lamp | raptor: read previous message |
| 02:22:07 | amgine1234567890 | raptor before you release do you want me to do osme bug testing again. |
| 02:25:48 | bobdaduck | They aren't super close to release, I don't think |
| 02:30:31 | Lamp | how do i get a bug report "approved" to put it on the bug report list? |
| 02:30:46 | bobdaduck | Someone has to look at it and approve it. |
| 02:30:48 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 02:30:53 | Lamp | oh... |
| 02:31:00 | Lamp | so I pm raptor? |
| 02:31:22 | bobdaduck | raptor seems to generally be pretty busy... |
| 02:31:24 | bobdaduck | *shrug* |
| 02:31:43 | bobdaduck | I'ma head home. |
| 02:31:45 | bobdaduck | Seeyall |
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| 02:51:42 | Nothing_Much | Hi bobdaduck |
| 02:51:46 | bobdaduck | 'allow |
| 02:52:48 | Nothing_Much | How've ya been? |
| 02:53:04 | bobdaduck | Good |
| 02:53:12 | bobdaduck | Was at work |
| 02:55:50 | Nothing_Much | Ah |
| 02:56:25 | Nothing_Much | How was it? |
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| 03:13:14 | raptor | hello |
| 03:16:48 | raptor | hi sam686 |
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| 03:17:42 | raptor | hello |
| 03:18:31 | chumpchange | Hullo. Noone idles in the main server lobby? |
| 03:18:39 | raptor | sometimes |
| 03:18:40 | chumpchange | of bitfighter? |
| 03:18:57 | raptor | mostly developers hang out here in IRC |
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| 03:21:47 | Nothing_Much | chumpchange, I'm new here, where'd ya hear about this game? |
| 03:21:56 | chumpchange | oh well came in to pop i to say hi. so hi and bye. |
| 03:22:14 | Nothing_Much | later then |
| 03:25:24 | kaen | noooooooooooooo |
| 03:25:27 | kaen | don't gooooooooo |
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| 03:26:21 | Nothing_Much | darn |
| 03:26:32 | raptor | i think he was from AU |
| 03:27:11 | raptor | we've had several people from there hoping for an australian server + players |
| 03:27:22 | raptor | also several from germany... |
| 03:28:02 | kaen | aussies are always looking for good multiplayer games |
| 03:28:32 | kaen | they usually have to play on servers in east asia or something. |
| 03:32:20 | Nothing_Much | that must suck |
| 03:35:14 | raptor | well yay, i got my UTF8 -> XOR -> BASE64 encryption working in java and javascript |
| 03:35:23 | raptor | and i'm still alive after the JS! |
| 03:35:52 | sam686 | robots/s_bot.bot:247: attempt to call missing or unknown method 'isOnShip' (a nil value) |
| 03:36:02 | raptor | sam686!!! you're alive! |
| 03:36:04 | sam686 | let me guess, a function is renamed or removed.. |
| 03:36:37 | raptor | sam686: it's a Lua problem watusimoto has been having for a while - something is wrong with the lookup table, like it gets corrupted |
| 03:36:45 | raptor | he has no idea what's gong on |
| 03:36:47 | raptor | *going |
| 03:37:06 | Nothing_Much | what's Lua? |
| 03:37:29 | raptor | Nothing_Much: Lua is a scripting language that we bind into the game. it's what we use to run robots and levelgens |
| 03:38:16 | Nothing_Much | ohh |
| 04:00:46 | raptor | sam686: you committed! |
| 04:00:48 | raptor | yay |
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| 04:01:20 | | Topic is 'Bitfighter 018 released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads | Join us in the forums! at http://bitfighter.org/forums/' |
| 04:01:20 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Fri Jan 18 20:33:17 GMT 2013 |
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| 04:03:01 | Little_Apple | raptor: im making 4 more smileys for you raptor |
| 04:03:07 | raptor | ha! |
| 04:03:58 | raptor | you don't have to - but i was impressed by your one smiley that i thought i'd try including it for a while.. |
| 04:06:06 | Little_Apple | well as the mythbusters would say, if its worth doing its worth overdoing |
| 04:06:15 | bobdaduck | Bitfighter smilies! |
| 04:06:16 | bobdaduck | :D |
| 04:11:36 | raptor | ok, well, image updated! |
| 04:12:29 | amgine1234567890 | hi? |
| 04:12:32 | amgine1234567890 | hi |
| 04:13:03 | Nothing_Much | hello |
| 04:14:34 | bobdaduck | Hi |
| 04:16:34 | bobdaduck | Why |
| 04:16:37 | bobdaduck | is the max score to win |
| 04:16:39 | bobdaduck | 99? |
| 04:19:37 | bobdaduck | Why is that even a thing? |
| 04:21:42 | Nothing_Much | gotta have a limit somewhere |
| 04:23:32 | bobdaduck | ...Why. |
| 04:23:59 | Nothing_Much | I don't know how to answer a why that's a statement |
| 04:24:20 | bobdaduck | No really. Why. |
| 04:24:33 | bobdaduck | There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to put a limit on score to win. |
| 04:24:44 | Nothing_Much | Unless there's a time limit |
| 04:25:22 | bobdaduck | You can make a level that lasts an hour and a half if you want to |
| 04:25:42 | Nothing_Much | oh man |
| 04:25:45 | bobdaduck | but you can't have a score of over 99. |
| 04:25:46 | Nothing_Much | that's the absolute best |
| 04:25:50 | amgine1234567890 | actully no if your testing somthing and somone keeps scoring it wont matter what your time is |
| 04:26:02 | amgine1234567890 | score + time is needed |
| 04:26:11 | Nothing_Much | well |
| 04:26:14 | Nothing_Much | depends on the game |
| 04:26:16 | Nothing_Much | like |
| 04:26:21 | Nothing_Much | if there's control points |
| 04:26:23 | Nothing_Much | like in tf2 |
| 04:26:27 | Nothing_Much | you capture all of the points |
| 04:26:33 | Nothing_Much | and you win |
| 04:26:41 | bobdaduck | Yes? |
| 04:26:55 | bobdaduck | But if you're in bitfighter and there's 102 zones to capture |
| 04:26:59 | Nothing_Much | it can last a while |
| 04:27:02 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 04:27:07 | bobdaduck | at 99 the game is over EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STILL ZONES TO BE CAPTURED. |
| 04:27:10 | bobdaduck | I don't even. |
| 04:27:19 | Nothing_Much | well in tf2 there's a certain time before it gets captured |
| 04:27:25 | Nothing_Much | that makes sense |
| 04:27:30 | Nothing_Much | what you just said |
| 04:27:45 | bobdaduck | lol you should play bitfighter more :P |
| 04:27:48 | bobdaduck | (brb) |
| 04:27:51 | Nothing_Much | I'd love to |
| 04:27:58 | Nothing_Much | In fact I want to |
| 04:28:01 | Nothing_Much | alright |
| 04:37:01 | Little_Apple | posted 4 more |
| 04:39:06 | Nothing_Much | more wut |
| 04:39:11 | Little_Apple | emotes |
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| 04:39:51 | Nothing_Much | eh |
| 04:39:54 | Lsmp | oops |
| 04:39:54 | Nothing_Much | Lsmp |
| 04:39:57 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 04:39:58 | | Lsmp is now known as Lamp |
| 04:40:04 | Lamp | typo lol |
| 04:40:19 | Lamp | Does anyone have archives of all the versions of Bitfighter? |
| 04:40:36 | Nothing_Much | shouldn't they be in the google code page? |
| 04:40:42 | Lamp | let me see |
| 04:41:00 | Nothing_Much | https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/ |
| 04:41:13 | Lamp | i know |
| 04:41:18 | Lamp | no they dont have it |
| 04:41:19 | Lamp | https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/downloads/list |
| 04:41:33 | Lamp | Ooh classic levels |
| 04:41:40 | Lamp | *downloads* |
| 04:42:03 | Nothing_Much | Lamp, how long have you been with bitfighter? |
| 04:42:15 | Lamp | uhh about a week |
| 04:42:17 | Lamp | or two |
| 04:42:43 | Nothing_Much | oh nice |
| 04:42:52 | Nothing_Much | I'm fairly new too |
| 04:43:04 | Nothing_Much | How'd you discover it? |
| 04:44:40 | Little_Apple | i looked inside one of my dirty socks and found a link |
| 04:44:53 | Nothing_Much | zelda? |
| 04:45:09 | Little_Apple | to the past |
| 04:45:11 | raptor | hi hi |
| 04:45:20 | Little_Apple | hello hello |
| 04:45:54 | Nothing_Much | oh man that game's music's amazing |
| 04:46:09 | Nothing_Much | apple, what DID you find in your sock? |
| 04:46:44 | Little_Apple | i told you |
| 04:46:46 | Little_Apple | a link |
| 04:46:52 | Little_Apple | you know... |
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| 04:46:57 | Nothing_Much | nope |
| 04:47:11 | Nothing_Much | I dunno |
| 04:47:13 | Nothing_Much | tell me |
| 04:47:23 | raptor | a stink, not a link |
| 04:47:26 | Little_Apple | like sausage... |
| 04:47:52 | Nothing_Much | what was a hot dog doing in your sock? |
| 04:48:02 | Little_Apple | not a hotdog, a link! |
| 04:49:30 | Nothing_Much | what was a sausage doing in your sock? |
| 04:49:52 | Lamp | hi |
| 04:49:54 | Lamp | back |
| 04:51:20 | Little_Apple | SAUSAGES ARE MY LIFE |
| 04:51:22 | Nothing_Much | wb |
| 04:51:35 | Nothing_Much | and yuck |
| 04:51:41 | Nothing_Much | did you eat it? |
| 04:51:57 | Little_Apple | of course! |
| 04:52:06 | Nothing_Much | yipes |
| 04:52:21 | Nothing_Much | how'd it taste? |
| 04:52:38 | Little_Apple | like magic and leprechauns |
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| 04:52:57 | Nothing_Much | how old are you? |
| 04:53:01 | Little_Apple | whoops |
| 04:53:22 | Little_Apple | check mah profile dood |
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| 04:54:49 | Nothing_Much | can't |
| 04:54:53 | Nothing_Much | don't have an account there yet |
| 04:55:24 | Little_Apple | makeone? |
| 04:56:44 | Little_Apple | whats the square root of 196? |
| 04:57:34 | Lamp | back |
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| 04:58:12 | Nothing_Much | 13 I think |
| 04:58:17 | Nothing_Much | or maybe 16 |
| 04:58:19 | Lamp | Nothing_Nuch |
| 04:58:24 | Lamp | Nothing_Much' |
| 04:58:29 | Nothing_Much | yes? |
| 04:58:48 | Lamp | I found bitfighter because Fluoride reffered me to it when I asked what it was because Flyclub got him addicted to it |
| 04:59:25 | Lamp | Oh yes, nothing, you SHOULD register. Also you dont need an account to view profile. |
| 04:59:36 | Little_Apple | you do actually... |
| 04:59:38 | Nothing_Much | it says I do for little apple |
| 04:59:42 | | Lamp is now known as Lamp89 |
| 04:59:48 | Lamp89 | oh whatever |
| 05:00:11 | Little_Apple | you also get an underlined name in game! woahhhh ingameswag |
| 05:00:30 | Lamp89 | You do? |
| 05:00:34 | Little_Apple | yep |
| 05:00:39 | Lamp89 | I dont have an underlined name |
| 05:00:43 | Lamp89 | do i? |
| 05:02:05 | | Lamp89 is now known as register |
| 05:02:09 | Little_Apple | you cant see your own name in game |
| 05:02:25 | | register is now known as Lamp89 |
| 05:02:31 | Lamp89 | oh |
| 05:03:38 | | Lamp89 is now registered. |
| 05:03:47 | | Lamp89 is a registered nick. |
| 05:04:09 | Lamp89 | Nothing_Much |
| 05:04:28 | Nothing_Much | what? |
| 05:04:35 | Lamp89 | hi |
| 05:04:39 | Nothing_Much | hi |
| 05:04:45 | Lamp89 | hi |
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| 05:05:30 | Nothing_Much | bye |
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| 05:14:37 | Little_Apple | kbai |
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| 05:32:01 | kaen | CODELITE |
| 05:32:02 | kaen | IS |
| 05:32:03 | kaen | SO |
| 05:32:04 | kaen | AWESOME |
| 05:32:22 | kaen | except that there isn't a cmake generator for it |
| 05:32:37 | kaen | and today I found out something interesting: cmake for windows makes vc++ projects by default |
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| 05:43:28 | raptor | kaen: codelite? |
| 05:43:42 | kaen | indeed |
| 05:43:44 | raptor | oh.. instead of code::blocks? |
| 05:43:49 | raptor | i think i tried that once.. |
| 05:43:52 | kaen | raptor you're the one who showed it to me |
| 05:43:56 | raptor | really?? |
| 05:43:58 | raptor | huh |
| 05:43:59 | kaen | yes. |
| 05:44:10 | raptor | it was speedy if i remember |
| 05:44:10 | kaen | dude it's super polished now compared to how I remember it |
| 05:44:14 | kaen | yes |
| 05:44:18 | raptor | really? i'll have to try again |
| 05:44:19 | kaen | it's very snappy |
| 05:44:27 | kaen | make sure you install the -plugins package |
| 05:44:28 | Nothing_Much | codelite's a website right? |
| 05:44:37 | raptor | ok |
| 05:44:39 | kaen | no, it's a programming tool |
| 05:44:41 | raptor | what version did you install? |
| 05:45:05 | kaen | 2.8.0 |
| 05:45:10 | raptor | ok |
| 05:45:14 | kaen | which is just the one in the ubuntu repo |
| 05:45:15 | raptor | also, cmake is magic |
| 05:45:18 | kaen | yes |
| 05:45:21 | kaen | yes it is |
| 05:45:49 | kaen | also, msysgit isn't so bad |
| 05:45:56 | kaen | ... if you know how to use unix |
| 05:46:47 | raptor | haha |
| 05:46:56 | raptor | i hear it has gotten better |
| 05:47:24 | kaen | it worked like a charm |
| 05:47:27 | raptor | i would be open to moving bitfighter to github - although I've gotten found of hg |
| 05:47:38 | kaen | I was even able to push with it to my github |
| 05:47:48 | raptor | because... github is an awesome site |
| 05:47:57 | kaen | I love github sooooooooooo much |
| 05:48:05 | Nothing_Much | github's amazing |
| 05:48:13 | kaen | and it would make development easier for those of us without commit access.... |
| 05:48:15 | kaen | *cough* |
| 05:48:28 | raptor | haha |
| 05:48:45 | raptor | really? i thought it was practically the same as using clones... |
| 05:48:53 | kaen | maybe it's just a matter of preference |
| 05:49:05 | kaen | but github integrates pull requests with a cool code review interface |
| 05:49:20 | raptor | ah yes, google code is quite primitive in that regard |
| 05:49:33 | kaen | so the mechanism for pull requests inherently documents their progress |
| 05:50:22 | kaen | honestly google code almost scared me away in the beginning... |
| 05:50:25 | raptor | explain |
| 05:50:28 | kaen | ehh |
| 05:50:35 | kaen | hold on a moment. |
| 05:50:37 | raptor | pull request mechanism... |
| 05:50:51 | kaen | https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/3824 |
| 05:51:00 | kaen | there's a pull request for nodejs |
| 05:51:31 | kaen | it shows like comments on a per-line basis, and when/if the request is merged (as in this case), or the request simply closed |
| 05:52:05 | kaen | and when you merge it, it updates the repo |
| 05:52:17 | raptor | oh neat |
| 05:52:34 | raptor | well, i did the move to google code... but it was from sourceforge |
| 05:52:41 | kaen | yes, that's an upgrade |
| 05:53:00 | kaen | when I worked on sourceforge projects it was through patches |
| 05:53:06 | raptor | i hear google code does git now too, but i don't think anything really compares to github |
| 05:55:27 | raptor | i see codelite 5.0.6213 |
| 05:55:59 | raptor | ok, let's try this.. |
| 05:56:07 | kaen | wait, what? |
| 05:56:24 | raptor | yes, i got codelite 5.0... |
| 05:56:27 | raptor | you said 2.8? |
| 05:56:33 | kaen | yeah... |
| 05:56:37 | raptor | http://codelite.org/LiteEditor/Repositories |
| 05:58:39 | raptor | sam686: are you still around? |
| 05:59:05 | sam686 | hi |
| 05:59:10 | raptor | hi |
| 05:59:19 | kaen | huh. wxWidgets is blocking in ubuntu it looks like. |
| 06:00:04 | raptor | sam686: just as an idea: would you be open to moving bitfighter to git? |
| 06:00:11 | raptor | and therefore github? |
| 06:00:41 | raptor | the problem i have with git is git on windows... BUT - i just found this: http://windows.github.com/ |
| 06:00:47 | Nothing_Much | git is a version control, system think of it as a series of snapshots (commits) of your code. You see a path of this snapshots, in which order they where created. You can make branches to experiment and come back to snapshots you took. |
| 06:00:47 | Nothing_Much | GitHub, is a web-page on which you can publish your git repositories and collaborate with other people. |
| 06:00:58 | kaen | raptor, I tried that thing |
| 06:01:01 | sam686 | not sure.. never tried some of stuff.. |
| 06:01:06 | raptor | kaen: any good? |
| 06:01:13 | kaen | it works, I'm reasonably sure |
| 06:01:24 | kaen | but I got flustered and just used the cygwin prompt instead... |
| 06:01:26 | raptor | ha... so are you sure you tried it? |
| 06:01:31 | kaen | yes |
| 06:01:44 | kaen | I put my credentials in, it found my repos |
| 06:01:45 | raptor | the other problem i have with git is that the learning curve is steeper than mercurial |
| 06:01:57 | kaen | only slightly |
| 06:01:59 | kaen | imo |
| 06:02:12 | kaen | I learned git first, so maybe I'm a bad judge |
| 06:02:29 | raptor | well, i've been thinking about implementing an internal DVCS at work |
| 06:02:49 | raptor | and git doesn't really look to good with lots of windows developers around and no github... |
| 06:02:51 | raptor | but |
| 06:02:59 | raptor | we're not in that situation.. we're OSS! |
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| 06:03:34 | kaen | I wouldn't push git in that situation either |
| 06:03:50 | raptor | the other problem is fighting evangelicals |
| 06:04:00 | kaen | my favorite VCS: the one that the project I'm working on is using |
| 06:04:07 | raptor | exactly!! |
| 06:04:12 | raptor | thank you for being level headed |
| 06:04:13 | kaen | which has variously meant patches, git, hg, svn, and simple files |
| 06:04:30 | raptor | i weep for anyone that has to still use CVS |
| 06:04:39 | kaen | I've never had the misfortune. |
| 06:04:42 | sam686 | mercurial with good windows GUI support have been around for several years now.. |
| 06:04:52 | raptor | have you ever used baazar (bzr)? |
| 06:04:54 | kaen | yes |
| 06:05:09 | kaen | I actually really liked it |
| 06:05:13 | raptor | sam686: yeah, that's the thing, mercurial is definitely more cross-platform friendly |
| 06:05:27 | raptor | bazaar is also python based like hg, right? |
| 06:05:34 | kaen | I don't know |
| 06:05:36 | raptor | i don't think i can spell bzr |
| 06:05:57 | kaen | the keys fit my hand nicely... |
| 06:06:18 | raptor | ? |
| 06:06:23 | kaen | b-z-r |
| 06:06:39 | kaen | for ergonomic typing |
| 06:06:44 | raptor | ah, ok |
| 06:06:45 | kaen | anyway, have you ever tried darcs? |
| 06:06:47 | raptor | i follow now |
| 06:06:52 | raptor | no, not darcs, but heard of it |
| 06:07:02 | kaen | I've tried it exactly once |
| 06:07:17 | kaen | just a simple checkout, edit, push, and I felt overwhelmed |
| 06:07:26 | raptor | is it a DVCS? |
| 06:07:33 | kaen | its creator developed like an algebra for patches |
| 06:07:38 | kaen | yes, but see ^ |
| 06:07:46 | raptor | oh no... not one of those types |
| 06:07:54 | kaen | so it's got like a formal mathematical paper that was published with it |
| 06:08:11 | kaen | and algebra is the wrong word. it deals with deltas, so it's more like a calculus |
| 06:08:25 | kaen | but yes, a formalized theory of patches |
| 06:08:29 | raptor | ah, so like mercurial-queues |
| 06:08:37 | raptor | which can be complicated |
| 06:08:40 | kaen | and it had a famous exponential merge bug. |
| 06:09:23 | kaen | but yeah, sort of like how mercurial has patch queues, but darcs can auto resolve a broader spectrum of conflicts |
| 06:09:37 | kaen | (from what I've read) |
| 06:10:23 | raptor | interesting |
| 06:11:17 | kaen | upgrading codelite is taking a while... |
| 06:11:31 | kaen | I've still got ten minutes left on my download |
| 06:12:04 | raptor | blech |
| 06:12:18 | raptor | i loaded it up right now... |
| 06:12:35 | raptor | so far, i'm not sure how to do code completion (which is the feature that keeps me with eclipse) |
| 06:12:45 | kaen | ctrl+shift+space |
| 06:12:55 | kaen | in 2.8 anyway |
| 06:13:22 | raptor | how to follow a variable to its declaration? |
| 06:13:43 | kaen | right click it |
| 06:13:47 | kaen | goto dec/imp |
| 06:14:06 | raptor | ok |
| 06:14:19 | raptor | i will need that bound to a key combo... |
| 06:14:32 | kaen | that's a good idea! |
| 06:14:39 | raptor | so far i like that it is using 60MB ram instead of 512... |
| 06:15:04 | kaen | holy crap there's a binding slot for it in the menu |
| 06:15:09 | kaen | <333 |
| 06:15:10 | raptor | WOW |
| 06:15:14 | raptor | there are binding slots! |
| 06:15:34 | kaen | I'm so excited to see 5.0.... |
| 06:16:18 | kaen | four more minutes ._. |
| 06:16:29 | raptor | ok, how to bind to ctrl+left click... |
| 06:16:40 | kaen | hah! |
| 06:16:48 | kaen | does your have a copyright block plugin? |
| 06:17:00 | raptor | i'm not sure what that is.. |
| 06:17:08 | raptor | yes! |
| 06:17:11 | raptor | loads of plugins! |
| 06:17:40 | kaen | it has templates for making new codelite plugins... |
| 06:17:45 | kaen | I'll have to play with that. |
| 06:19:08 | raptor | oh wow, you can do ctrl+click to add multiple typing locations at once |
| 06:19:46 | kaen | D: |
| 06:20:47 | kaen | woohoo! launching |
| 06:20:52 | raptor | gogogo |
| 06:21:18 | kaen | autoloads my old project file like a champ :) |
| 06:21:46 | kaen | ah, yes! they fixed the code completion directories dialogue |
| 06:21:52 | kaen | by which I mean there is one! |
| 06:22:06 | raptor | hah |
| 06:22:16 | kaen | I was literally just looking for that in the old version when we started these shenanigans |
| 06:24:20 | kaen | yeah, code completion works sooooo much better than in code blocks. |
| 06:24:38 | kaen | I'm about to give refactoring a good kick in the tires. |
| 06:28:04 | kaen | wow raptor give that a shot when you get a chance |
| 06:28:13 | raptor | refactoring? |
| 06:28:22 | kaen | it sucessfully refactored a whole chain of covariant virtual functions. |
| 06:28:37 | kaen | it has a checkbox list interface. sooo easy |
| 06:28:56 | kaen | although the auto-selection is a bit unpredictable... |
| 06:29:42 | kaen | I feel like this IDE would really increase my productivity if I could stop playing with the features long enough to write some code. |
| 06:30:00 | raptor | neat |
| 06:30:23 | raptor | so far not bad... |
| 06:31:01 | raptor | ok, i'm heading to bed - good find kaen, i may actually give this a go, again |
| 06:34:35 | raptor | night all |
| 06:34:44 | Nothing_Much | later |
| 06:37:25 | | raptor Quit () |
| 06:38:02 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 06:39:30 | Lamp89 | raptor: Where can I download Sands of Time? |
| 06:40:19 | | Lamp has joined |
| 06:40:40 | | Lamp is now known as Lamp89_ |
| 06:41:47 | Lamp89_ | ahh there we go |
| 06:41:54 | Lamp89_ | wierd |
| 06:41:58 | Lamp89_ | why am i still there? |
| 06:42:03 | Lamp89_ | i'm using LimeChat app |
| 06:42:06 | Lamp89_ | hmm |
| 06:42:09 | | Lamp89_ Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 06:42:28 | | Lamp has joined |
| 06:42:36 | Lamp | i'm still thee... |
| 06:43:20 | | Lamp is now known as Lamp89_ |
| 06:43:27 | Lamp89_ | why am i still there?!?! |
| 06:43:36 | | Lamp89 Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 06:43:49 | | Lamp89_ Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 06:44:34 | | Lamp has joined |
| 06:45:03 | | Lamp_ has joined |
| 06:45:55 | Lamp_ | rar |
| 06:46:01 | Lamp_ | damn limechat app |
| 06:46:23 | kaen | Lamp_, did you register with nickserv yet? |
| 06:46:30 | Lamp_ | i did |
| 06:46:36 | Lamp_ | im using an IRC client |
| 06:46:39 | Lamp_ | "LimeChat" |
| 06:46:57 | Lamp_ | now im trying to change it to login as "Lamp89" by default, not "Lamp" |
| 06:46:57 | kaen | /msg nickserv ghost lamp |
| 06:47:03 | Lamp_ | ? |
| 06:47:15 | kaen | that command will kill the other Lamp |
| 06:47:18 | Lamp_ | I registered as Lamp89 |
| 06:47:21 | kaen | if you authorize with nickserv first |
| 06:47:21 | kaen | oh |
| 06:47:33 | | Lamp_ is now known as Lamp89 |
| 06:47:37 | kaen | well, whatever limechat is I've never used it |
| 06:47:57 | Lamp89 | hmm |
| 06:48:00 | | Lamp89 Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 06:48:36 | | Lamp Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 06:49:14 | kaen | okay |
| 06:49:20 | kaen | find the server list |
| 06:49:28 | kaen | should be under a dohickey called "server" |
| 06:50:09 | kaen | find freenode on there and within the edit screen you should see a place for nick and nickserv password |
| 06:50:16 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 06:50:20 | kaen | oh.. |
| 06:50:30 | kaen | well seems you figured it out. |
| 06:50:37 | Lamp89 | i reset the app by deleting it's data in my library |
| 06:50:45 | Lamp89 | and set it up again |
| 06:50:55 | kaen | heh that works |
| 06:51:02 | kaen | but I can still see your ipv6 |
| 06:51:05 | Lamp89 | if only i can make it log in automatically |
| 06:51:20 | kaen | you can! |
| 06:51:27 | Lamp89 | in LimeChat? |
| 06:51:57 | kaen | yes I looked it up |
| 06:52:03 | kaen | are you using it on a mac? |
| 06:52:06 | kaen | or on a phone? |
| 06:52:08 | Lamp89 | mac |
| 06:52:11 | kaen | yeah |
| 06:52:23 | kaen | try to find the server list |
| 06:52:30 | kaen | I think it's under "server" or something |
| 06:52:44 | kaen | then find the entry for freenode, and then edit your nick and nickserv password |
| 06:53:02 | Lamp89 | in properties? |
| 06:53:10 | kaen | maybe |
| 06:53:17 | kaen | I just looked it up on the internet |
| 06:54:03 | Lamp89 | what is SASL? |
| 06:54:19 | kaen | don't use it |
| 06:54:23 | Lamp89 | what is it |
| 06:54:32 | kaen | it's a separate auth mechanism |
| 06:54:41 | | Lamp89 Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 06:54:41 | kaen | you use it if you need to connect to IRC with tor |
| 06:54:56 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 06:55:02 | Lamp89 | yay |
| 06:55:04 | Lamp89 | i did it |
| 06:55:15 | Lamp89 | i put my passowrd where it asked for passowrd in properties |
| 06:55:24 | Lamp89 | and now it automatically logs me in |
| 06:55:28 | Lamp89 | i also changed the font |
| 06:55:30 | kaen | now |
| 06:55:32 | Lamp89 | to Helvectia |
| 06:55:35 | Lamp89 | what? |
| 06:55:38 | kaen | you need to figure out how to make it set you +x |
| 06:55:44 | Lamp89 | whats that? |
| 06:55:54 | Lamp89 | voice? |
| 06:56:01 | kaen | no |
| 06:56:07 | kaen | it hides your hostname |
| 06:56:13 | kaen | people can use that to get your IP |
| 06:56:15 | Lamp89 | hmm let me try something |
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| 06:56:44 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 06:56:49 | Lamp89 | test |
| 06:56:59 | Lamp89 | what does invisible (+i) do? |
| 06:57:16 | kaen | ah, that what I was looking for I think |
| 06:57:22 | kaen | do +i and +x |
| 06:57:28 | kaen | btw, http://geoiptool.com/en/?IP=c-50-136-180-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net |
| 06:57:39 | Lamp89 | theres a checkbox to automatically set +i at login |
| 06:57:42 | kaen | you're probably not in santa cruz, but yeah |
| 06:57:47 | Lamp89 | but there's no option for +x |
| 06:57:48 | kaen | yes, try with +i |
| 06:57:54 | Lamp89 | i enabled it |
| 06:57:58 | Lamp89 | i'm +i right now |
| 06:58:15 | kaen | I can still see your host :/ |
| 06:58:23 | kaen | it's not really a big deal |
| 06:58:44 | Lamp89 | what command do you type to turn on +x? |
| 06:58:58 | Lamp89 | i want to add it to the commands that do when you log in |
| 06:59:09 | kaen | freenode doesn't have +x |
| 06:59:10 | Lamp89 | so it will +x me automatically |
| 06:59:11 | kaen | I was mistaken |
| 06:59:14 | Lamp89 | aww |
| 06:59:49 | Lamp89 | so how do I hide my host? raptor hs a "cloak" |
| 06:59:54 | kaen | me too |
| 07:00:00 | kaen | I think you have to ask for one |
| 07:00:05 | Lamp89 | ask who? |
| 07:00:09 | kaen | and they'll ask what you need one for |
| 07:00:12 | kaen | freenode ops |
| 07:00:21 | Lamp89 | aww that's stupid |
| 07:00:30 | Lamp89 | why do you need to ask humans? |
| 07:00:36 | Lamp89 | it should be automatically |
| 07:00:58 | kaen | because it could be abused |
| 07:01:03 | kaen | and only a human can tell if you're doing that |
| 07:01:19 | Lamp89 | i still don't know what invisible does |
| 07:01:22 | kaen | go to #freenode, and ask politely (one time) "hello, may I please have an unaffiliated cloak" |
| 07:01:27 | kaen | it enables your cloak if you have one. |
| 07:01:34 | kaen | and wait there |
| 07:01:45 | Lamp89 | and they just give it to you? |
| 07:01:46 | kaen | eventually, someone will come along to help you, though it may be some time |
| 07:01:49 | kaen | if you're not a dick |
| 07:01:50 | kaen | yes. |
| 07:01:57 | Lamp89 | how do they "give" it to you? |
| 07:02:07 | kaen | they enable it with a special command or something |
| 07:02:12 | Lamp89 | oh |
| 07:02:20 | Lamp89 | for my freenode account? |
| 07:02:21 | kaen | on the server side, they attach it to your registered nick |
| 07:02:23 | kaen | yes |
| 07:02:26 | Lamp89 | oh |
| 07:02:31 | kaen | which is why my cloak is hail and not kaen |
| 07:02:41 | kaen | I should ask for a now cloak now that I think about it... |
| 07:02:46 | kaen | new cloak* |
| 07:04:13 | Lamp89 | new cloak? what do you mean? you have to renew your cloak? |
| 07:04:13 | Lamp89 | hello? |
| 07:04:23 | kaen | no, |
| 07:04:27 | kaen | I just want mine to say "hail" |
| 07:04:32 | kaen | er, say "kaen" |
| 07:04:39 | kaen | it says "hail" which was my old name |
| 07:04:49 | kaen | type /whois kaen to see what I mean |
| 07:04:49 | Lamp89 | i whoised you and got this in the status: |
| 07:04:50 | Lamp89 | 23:04 <irc.freenode.com> Reply(330): kaen hail is logged in as |
| 07:04:56 | kaen | yeah. |
| 07:05:00 | kaen | exactly. |
| 07:05:02 | Lamp89 | i already whoised you |
| 07:05:11 | kaen | so I see :) |
| 07:06:01 | Lamp89 | so |
| 07:06:01 | Lamp89 | im gonna figure out how to log in another channel |
| 07:06:08 | Lamp89 | oh and also I dont live IN Santa Cruz, I live near it |
| 07:06:22 | Lamp89 | but IP tracking is quite accurate |
| 07:06:47 | kaen | mine's usually within 20 miles |
| 07:07:00 | kaen | but never quite in my actual town. |
| 07:07:29 | Lamp89 | eh i cant do it, i'm just gonna use the embedded freenode client |
| 07:07:35 | kaen | haha |
| 07:07:48 | kaen | irc is awesome |
| 07:08:05 | kaen | I'm idling in 17 channels right now... |
| 07:12:02 | Lamp89 | okay i asked |
| 07:12:02 | Lamp89 | [23:11] <Lamp89_> hello, may I please have an unaffiliated cloak? |
| 07:12:27 | Lamp89 | he said: |
| 07:12:28 | Lamp89 | [23:12] <+jayne> Lamp89_: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks and be aware that an unaffiliated cloak will have no effect on webchat |
| 07:12:59 | kaen | makes sense |
| 07:13:21 | Lamp89 | i read it |
| 07:13:24 | Lamp89 | Can I get a hostname cloak? |
| 07:13:24 | Lamp89 | You can ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode. This is our standard cloak and normally shows @unaffiliated/youraccountname. You will need a registered nickserv account. Some of our registered groups offer their own cloaks for their projects. To obtain one of these, you need to find the group contact for the group you are interested in, and ask them to arrange the cloak for you. Lastly, if you make a donation to th |
| 07:13:24 | Lamp89 | e Peer-Directed Projects Center. our parent group, we offer special donation cloaks in acknowledgement. |
| 07:13:25 | Lamp89 | We generally offer only one cloak per person, and a cloak is applied to a nickserv account. If you want a cloak for your bot, please create a separate account for it before asking. |
| 07:13:27 | Lamp89 | As always, please observe good behaviour and adhere to network policies whilst wearing cloaks. We reserve the right to refuse to cloak accounts, and to remove cloaks from accounts if necessary. |
| 07:13:29 | Lamp89 | Lastly, note that a cloak does not guarantee that your IP address remains hidden. If this is very important to you, we'd suggest that you look at the Tor hidden service. |
| 07:13:33 | kaen | yeah... |
| 07:13:35 | kaen | I read it too |
| 07:13:38 | Lamp89 | wow this app has a feature for pasting large stuff |
| 07:13:44 | Lamp89 | cool |
| 07:13:46 | Lamp89 | :D |
| 07:13:50 | Lamp89 | so |
| 07:13:57 | Lamp89 | i need to be affiliated with something? |
| 07:14:02 | kaen | no |
| 07:14:10 | kaen | you'll just get an unaffiliated cloak |
| 07:14:18 | kaen | which is what raptor and I have |
| 07:14:25 | Lamp89 | How did you get one? |
| 07:14:32 | kaen | same way you are :) |
| 07:14:35 | kaen | are you still in the channel? |
| 07:14:37 | Lamp89 | did i get one? |
| 07:14:45 | Lamp89 | im in the freenode channel, yes |
| 07:14:49 | kaen | just wait |
| 07:15:07 | kaen | did you respond to him? say something like "I understand" |
| 07:15:08 | Lamp89 | wow there's A LOT of users there |
| 07:15:26 | Lamp89 | [23:15] <Lamp89_> jayne: I understand |
| 07:15:49 | Lamp89 | :\ |
| 07:15:51 | | kaen slaps forehead. |
| 07:16:02 | | Lamp89 is confused |
| 07:16:07 | Lamp89 | what? |
| 07:17:17 | Lamp89 | did I do something wrong? |
| 07:17:17 | Lamp89 | :| |
| 07:17:37 | kaen | oh dude |
| 07:17:39 | kaen | you're sillyl |
| 07:17:42 | Lamp89 | what |
| 07:17:45 | kaen | you asked as lamp89_ |
| 07:17:51 | kaen | and that nick isn't authed with nickserv |
| 07:17:52 | Lamp89 | yes |
| 07:18:01 | Lamp89 | OH CRAP DX |
| 07:18:03 | kaen | so this guy thinks you're a total noob xD |
| 07:18:05 | Lamp89 | FAIL |
| 07:18:13 | Lamp89 | should i exit? |
| 07:18:20 | kaen | close the lamp89_ one |
| 07:18:33 | Lamp89 | i did |
| 07:18:33 | kaen | come back as the authed you and say you didn't realize you weren't authed |
| 07:18:59 | Lamp89 | I probably have to log out of here to log in there |
| 07:19:03 | kaen | no |
| 07:19:06 | Lamp89 | what |
| 07:19:10 | Lamp89 | ill try again |
| 07:19:12 | kaen | should just open in a new tab |
| 07:19:52 | kaen | nope |
| 07:20:04 | Lamp89 | bbr |
| 07:20:05 | kaen | you're still unauthed on that account |
| 07:20:06 | Lamp89 | brb |
| 07:20:08 | kaen | k |
| 07:21:42 | Lamp89 | back |
| 07:21:51 | Lamp89 | im gonna log out of here and log back in at the webchat |
| 07:21:55 | | Lamp89 Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 07:22:42 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 07:22:47 | Lamp89 | there we go |
| 07:23:53 | Lamp89 | kaen |
| 07:24:06 | kaen | hello |
| 07:25:08 | Lamp89 | okay now i am logged in and am in #freenode |
| 07:25:15 | Lamp89 | will they install a cloak for me? |
| 07:25:26 | kaen | likely, just wait now |
| 07:25:42 | Lamp89 | Do they tell me when they're finished? |
| 07:25:45 | kaen | yes. |
| 07:25:57 | Lamp89 | about how long will it take? |
| 07:26:33 | kaen | usually just a few minutes |
| 07:26:45 | | Lamp89 Quit (Changing host) |
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| 07:26:45 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 07:26:46 | kaen | but if not, the etiquette is to wait a few hours between requests |
| 07:26:50 | kaen | like, 3 |
| 07:27:17 | kaen | say thanks! |
| 07:27:20 | kaen | and you're ready to go |
| 07:27:33 | kaen | but you'll have to log back in from limechat, like he said |
| 07:27:40 | Lamp89 | i know |
| 07:27:43 | Lamp89 | im logged outright now |
| 07:27:48 | Lamp89 | now im gonna switch to limechat |
| 07:27:50 | | kaen thumbsup |
| 07:27:54 | Lamp89 | :D |
| 07:27:57 | | Lamp89 Quit (Quit: Page closed) |
| 07:28:12 | | Lamp89 has joined |
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| 07:28:12 | | Lamp89 has joined |
| 07:28:20 | Lamp89 | hi |
| 07:28:29 | Lamp89 | yay |
| 07:28:33 | Lamp89 | my address: unaffiliated/lamp89 |
| 07:29:44 | kaen | yep :) |
| 07:30:05 | kaen | you're way better at irc than I was when I first started... |
| 07:30:08 | Lamp89 | and you're unaffiliated/hail |
| 07:30:11 | kaen | yes |
| 07:30:12 | Lamp89 | not really |
| 07:30:16 | Lamp89 | i started before |
| 07:30:18 | Lamp89 | and |
| 07:30:22 | Lamp89 | well um... |
| 07:31:09 | kaen | sounds vague and mysterious. |
| 07:31:12 | kaen | but okay! |
| 07:31:26 | Lamp89 | i started with CentralChat when installing the Color Communal Chat for The Colorshocks and the Staff was mean. I asked Louis to help me but he was mean and not friendly. And many things I did not understand and he was irritated about it |
| 07:31:52 | kaen | oh I see |
| 07:31:59 | Lamp89 | hmm |
| 07:32:14 | Lamp89 | this cloak doesn't hide my name when I join/leave |
| 07:32:19 | Lamp89 | "23:28 Lamp89 has joined (~Lamp89@c-50-136-180-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)" |
| 07:32:24 | Lamp89 | :\ |
| 07:32:41 | kaen | your client must be setting +i too late |
| 07:32:56 | kaen | maybe there's an option to make it wait before joining channels? |
| 07:33:02 | Lamp89 | Well I think it can only set it after I log in |
| 07:33:23 | kaen | yes, some clients allow you to pause so it has time to do that before you join |
| 07:33:46 | kaen | xchat has a config option fo rit |
| 07:33:58 | Lamp89 | Im on LimeChat |
| 07:34:12 | kaen | yes, I remember. |
| 07:34:19 | kaen | I'm not that stoned. |
| 07:34:44 | Lamp89 | http://cl.ly/image/0a1q1r160D2t |
| 07:35:46 | Lamp89 | what is +sn? |
| 07:36:03 | Lamp89 | http://cl.ly/image/2D1G1r3y2j02 |
| 07:37:23 | kaen | hmm, non of those are what you're looking for |
| 07:37:33 | Lamp89 | what is +sn? |
| 07:37:51 | kaen | those are mode flags for a channel |
| 07:37:54 | kaen | instead of a user |
| 07:38:02 | kaen | +s means it's not on the channel list |
| 07:38:11 | kaen | +n means people can't talk on it without being in it |
| 07:38:21 | Lamp89 | :P |
| 07:38:24 | Lamp89 | :? |
| 07:38:36 | kaen | yes, that is possible |
| 07:38:37 | Lamp89 | i think you HAVE to be in it to talk in it |
| 07:38:38 | kaen | without the +n |
| 07:38:40 | kaen | no |
| 07:38:44 | Lamp89 | how's it possible? |
| 07:38:48 | kaen | you can msg channels |
| 07:38:53 | kaen | test |
| 07:39:05 | kaen | eheh... |
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| 07:39:20 | Lamp89 | :O |
| 07:39:24 | Lamp89 | :D |
| 07:39:39 | Lamp89 | how did you edit the message to "Leaving"? |
| 07:40:22 | kaen | it's just in my client |
| 07:40:33 | Lamp89 | can i edit it on limechat? |
| 07:40:34 | kaen | but if you type |
| 07:40:46 | kaen | /part #bitfighter some message |
| 07:40:53 | kaen | it will say "some message" when you leave |
| 07:40:58 | | Lamp89 has left |
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| 07:41:09 | kaen | you can read it in the logs :) |
| 07:41:14 | Lamp89 | yay |
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| 07:41:32 | Lamp89 | [7:41:09] <kaen> you can read it in the logs :) |
| 07:41:33 | Lamp89 | [7:41:14] <Lamp89> yay |
| 07:41:35 | Lamp89 | |
| 07:41:37 | Lamp89 | :/ |
| 07:42:05 | Lamp89 | well at lest the cloak is working |
| 07:42:27 | Lamp89 | may I do a little test? |
| 07:42:31 | kaen | <-- Lamp89 has left |
| 07:42:34 | kaen | sure. |
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| 07:42:59 | Lamp89 | [6:39:30] <Lamp89> raptor: Where can I download Sands of Time? |
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| 07:42:59 | Lamp89 | [6:40:40] * Lamp is now known as Lamp89_ |
| 07:43:01 | Lamp89 | [6:41:47] <Lamp89_> ahh there we go |
| 07:43:03 | Lamp89 | [6:41:54] <Lamp89_> wierd |
| 07:43:05 | Lamp89 | [6:41:58] <Lamp89_> why am i still there? |
| 07:43:07 | Lamp89 | [6:42:03] <Lamp89_> i'm using LimeChat app |
| 07:43:09 | Lamp89 | [6:42:06] <Lamp89_> hmm |
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| 07:43:15 | Lamp89 | [6:42:36] <Lamp> i'm still thee... |
| 07:43:17 | Lamp89 | [6:43:20] * Lamp is now known as Lamp89_ |
| 07:43:19 | Lamp89 | [6:43:27] <Lamp89_> why am i still there?!?! |
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| 07:43:29 | Lamp89 | [6:45:55] <Lamp_> rar |
| 07:43:31 | Lamp89 | [6:46:01] <Lamp_> damn limechat app |
| 07:43:33 | Lamp89 | [6:46:23] <kaen> Lamp_, did you register with nickserv yet? |
| 07:43:35 | Lamp89 | [6:46:30] <Lamp_> i did |
| 07:43:37 | Lamp89 | [6:46:36] <Lamp_> im using an IRC client |
| 07:43:39 | Lamp89 | [6:46:39] <Lamp_> "LimeChat" |
| 07:43:41 | Lamp89 | [6:46:57] <Lamp_> now im trying to change it to login as "Lamp89" by default, not "Lamp" |
| 07:43:43 | Lamp89 | [6:46:57] <kaen> /msg nickserv ghost lamp |
| 07:43:43 | kaen | oh my.... |
| 07:43:45 | Lamp89 | [6:47:03] <Lamp_> ? |
| 07:43:47 | Lamp89 | [6:47:15] <kaen> that command will kill the other Lamp |
| 07:43:49 | Lamp89 | [6:47:18] <Lamp_> I registered as Lamp89 |
| 07:43:51 | Lamp89 | [6:47:21] <kaen> if you authorize with nickserv first |
| 07:43:53 | Lamp89 | [6:47:21] <kaen> oh |
| 07:43:55 | Lamp89 | [6:47:33] * Lamp_ is now known as Lamp89 |
| 07:43:57 | Lamp89 | [6:47:37] <kaen> well, whatever limechat is I've never used it |
| 07:43:59 | Lamp89 | [6:47:57] <Lamp89> hmm |
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| 07:44:05 | Lamp89 | [6:49:14] <kaen> okay |
| 07:44:07 | Lamp89 | [6:49:20] <kaen> find the server list |
| 07:44:09 | Lamp89 | [6:49:28] <kaen> should be under a dohickey called "server" |
| 07:44:11 | Lamp89 | [6:50:09] <kaen> find freenode on there and within the edit screen you should see a place for nick and nickserv password |
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| 07:44:15 | Lamp89 | [6:50:20] <kaen> oh.. |
| 07:44:17 | Lamp89 | [6:50:30] <kaen> well seems you figured it out. |
| 07:44:19 | Lamp89 | [6:50:37] <Lamp89> i reset the app by deleting it's data in my library |
| 07:44:21 | Lamp89 | [6:50:45] <Lamp89> and set it up again |
| 07:44:23 | Lamp89 | [6:50:55] <kaen> heh that works |
| 07:44:25 | Lamp89 | [6:51:02] <kaen> but I can still see your ipv6 |
| 07:44:27 | Lamp89 | [6:51:05] <Lamp89> if only i can make it log in automatically |
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| 07:44:29 | Lamp89 | [6:51:20] <kaen> you can! |
| 07:44:31 | Lamp89 | [6:51:27] <Lamp89> in LimeChat? |
| 07:44:33 | Lamp89 | [6:51:57] <kaen> yes I looked it up |
| 07:44:35 | Lamp89 | [6:52:03] <kaen> are you using it on a mac? |
| 07:44:37 | Lamp89 | [6:52:06] <kaen> or on a phone? |
| 07:44:39 | Lamp89 | [6:52:08] <Lamp89> mac |
| 07:44:41 | Lamp89 | [6:52:11] <kaen> yeah |
| 07:44:43 | Lamp89 | [6:52:23] <kaen> try to find the server list |
| 07:44:45 | Lamp89 | [6:52:30] <kaen> I think it's under "server" or something |
| 07:44:47 | Lamp89 | [6:52:44] <kaen> then find the entry for freenode, and then edit your nick and nickserv password |
| 07:44:49 | Lamp89 | [6:53:02] <Lamp89> in properties? |
| 07:44:51 | Lamp89 | [6:53:10] <kaen> maybe |
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| 07:44:53 | Lamp89 | [6:53:17] <kaen> I just looked it up on the internet |
| 07:44:55 | Lamp89 | [6:54:03] <Lamp89> what is SASL? |
| 07:44:57 | Lamp89 | [6:54:19] <kaen> don't use it |
| 07:44:59 | Lamp89 | [6:54:23] <Lamp89> what is it |
| 07:45:01 | Lamp89 | [6:54:32] <kaen> it's a separate auth mechanism |
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| 07:45:05 | | kaen has left |
| 07:45:05 | Lamp89 | [6:54:41] <kaen> you use it if you need to connect to IRC with tor |
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| 07:45:09 | Lamp89 | [6:55:02] <Lamp89> yay |
| 07:45:11 | Lamp89 | [6:55:04] <Lamp89> i did it |
| 07:45:13 | Lamp89 | [6:55:15] <Lamp89> i put my passowrd where it asked for passowrd in properties |
| 07:45:15 | Lamp89 | [6:55:24] <Lamp89> and now it automatically logs me in |
| 07:45:17 | Lamp89 | [6:55:28] <Lamp89> i also changed the font |
| 07:45:19 | Lamp89 | [6:55:30] <kaen> now |
| 07:45:21 | Lamp89 | [6:55:32] <Lamp89> to Helvectia |
| 07:45:23 | Lamp89 | [6:55:35] <Lamp89> what? |
| 07:45:25 | Lamp89 | [6:55:38] <kaen> you need to figure out how to make it set you +x |
| 07:45:27 | Lamp89 | [6:55:44] <Lamp89> whats that? |
| 07:45:29 | Lamp89 | [6:55:54] <Lamp89> voice? |
| 07:45:31 | Lamp89 | [6:56:01] <kaen> no |
| 07:45:33 | Lamp89 | [6:56:07] <kaen> it hides your hostname |
| 07:45:35 | Lamp89 | [6:56:13] <kaen> people can use that to get your IP |
| 07:45:37 | Lamp89 | [6:56:15] <Lamp89> hmm let me try something |
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| 07:45:43 | Lamp89 | [6:56:49] <Lamp89> test |
| 07:45:45 | Lamp89 | [6:56:59] <Lamp89> what does invisible (+i) do? |
| 07:45:47 | Lamp89 | [6:57:16] <kaen> ah, that what I was looking for I think |
| 07:45:49 | Lamp89 | [6:57:22] <kaen> do +i and +x |
| 07:45:51 | Lamp89 | [6:57:28] <kaen> btw, http://geoiptool.com/en/?IP=c-50-136-180-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net |
| 07:45:53 | Lamp89 | [6:57:39] <Lamp89> theres a checkbox to automatically set +i at login |
| 07:45:55 | Lamp89 | [6:57:42] <kaen> you're probably not in santa cruz, but yeah |
| 07:45:57 | Lamp89 | [6:57:47] <Lamp89> but there's no option for +x |
| 07:45:59 | Lamp89 | [6:57:48] <kaen> yes, try with +i |
| 07:46:01 | Lamp89 | [6:57:54] <Lamp89> i enabled it |
| 07:46:03 | Lamp89 | [6:57:58] <Lamp89> i'm +i right now |
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| 07:46:05 | Lamp89 | [6:58:15] <kaen> I can still see your host :/ |
| 07:46:07 | Lamp89 | [6:58:23] <kaen> it's not really a big deal |
| 07:46:09 | Lamp89 | [6:58:44] <Lamp89> what command do you type to turn on +x? |
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| 07:46:11 | Lamp89 | [6:58:58] <Lamp89> i want to add it to the commands that do when you log in |
| 07:46:13 | Lamp89 | [6:59:09] <kaen> freenode doesn't have +x |
| 07:46:15 | Lamp89 | [6:59:10] <Lamp89> so it will +x me automatically |
| 07:46:17 | Lamp89 | [6:59:11] <kaen> I was mistaken |
| 07:46:19 | Lamp89 | [6:59:14] <Lamp89> aww |
| 07:46:21 | Lamp89 | [6:59:49] <Lamp89> so how do I hide my host? raptor hs a "cloak" |
| 07:46:23 | Lamp89 | [6:59:54] <kaen> me too |
| 07:46:25 | Lamp89 | [7:00:00] <kaen> I think you have to ask for one |
| 07:46:27 | Lamp89 | [7:00:05] <Lamp89> ask who? |
| 07:46:32 | Lamp89 | [7:00:09] <kaen> and they'll ask what you need one for |
| 07:46:32 | Lamp89 | [7:00:12] <kaen> freenode ops |
| 07:46:35 | Lamp89 | [7:00:21] <Lamp89> aww that's stupid |
| 07:46:35 | Lamp89 | [7:00:30] <Lamp89> why do you need to ask humans? |
| 07:46:37 | Lamp89 | [7:00:36] <Lamp89> it should be automatically |
| 07:46:39 | Lamp89 | [7:00:58] <kaen> because it could be abused |
| 07:46:41 | Lamp89 | [7:01:03] <kaen> and only a human can tell if you're doing that |
| 07:46:43 | Lamp89 | [7:01:19] <Lamp89> i still don't know what invisible does |
| 07:46:45 | Lamp89 | [7:01:22] <kaen> go to #freenode, and ask politely (one time) "hello, may I please have an unaffiliated cloak" |
| 07:46:47 | Lamp89 | [7:01:27] <kaen> it enables your cloak if you have one. |
| 07:46:51 | Lamp89 | [7:01:34] <kaen> and wait there |
| 07:46:51 | Lamp89 | [7:01:45] <Lamp89> and they just give it to you? |
| 07:46:53 | Lamp89 | [7:01:46] <kaen> eventually, someone will come along to help you, though it may be some time |
| 07:46:55 | Lamp89 | [7:01:49] <kaen> if you're not a dick |
| 07:46:57 | Lamp89 | [7:01:50] <kaen> yes. |
| 07:46:59 | Lamp89 | [7:01:57] <Lamp89> how do they "give" it to you? |
| 07:47:01 | Lamp89 | [7:02:07] <kaen> they enable it with a special command or something |
| 07:47:03 | Lamp89 | [7:02:12] <Lamp89> oh |
| 07:47:05 | Lamp89 | [7:02:20] <Lamp89> for my freenode account? |
| 07:47:07 | Lamp89 | [7:02:21] <kaen> on the server side, they attach it to your registered nick |
| 07:47:09 | Lamp89 | [7:02:23] <kaen> yes |
| 07:47:11 | Lamp89 | [7:02:26] <Lamp89> oh |
| 07:47:13 | Lamp89 | [7:02:31] <kaen> which is why my cloak is hail and not kaen |
| 07:47:15 | Lamp89 | [7:02:41] <kaen> I should ask for a now cloak now that I think about it... |
| 07:47:17 | Lamp89 | [7:02:46] <kaen> new cloak* |
| 07:47:19 | Lamp89 | [7:04:13] <Lamp89> new cloak? what do you mean? you have to renew your cloak? |
| 07:47:21 | Lamp89 | [7:04:13] <Lamp89> hello? |
| 07:47:23 | Lamp89 | [7:04:23] <kaen> no, |
| 07:47:25 | Lamp89 | [7:04:27] <kaen> I just want mine to say "hail" |
| 07:47:27 | Lamp89 | [7:04:32] <kaen> er, say "kaen" |
| 07:47:29 | Lamp89 | [7:04:39] <kaen> it says "hail" which was my old name |
| 07:47:31 | Lamp89 | [7:04:49] <kaen> type /whois kaen to see what I mean |
| 07:47:33 | Lamp89 | [7:04:49] <Lamp89> i whoised you and got this in the status: |
| 07:47:35 | Lamp89 | [7:04:50] <Lamp89> 23:04 <irc.freenode.com> Reply(330): kaen hail is logged in as |
| 07:47:37 | Lamp89 | [7:04:56] <kaen> yeah. |
| 07:47:39 | Lamp89 | [7:05:00] <kaen> exactly. |
| 07:47:41 | Lamp89 | [7:05:02] <Lamp89> i already whoised you |
| 07:47:43 | Lamp89 | [7:05:11] <kaen> so I see :) |
| 07:47:45 | Lamp89 | [7:06:01] <Lamp89> so |
| 07:47:47 | Lamp89 | [7:06:01] <Lamp89> im gonna figure out how to log in another channel |
| 07:47:49 | Lamp89 | [7:06:08] <Lamp89> oh and also I dont live IN Santa Cruz, I live near it |
| 07:47:51 | Lamp89 | [7:06:22] <Lamp89> but IP tracking is quite accurate |
| 07:47:53 | Lamp89 | [7:06:47] <kaen> mine's usually within 20 miles |
| 07:47:55 | Lamp89 | [7:07:00] <kaen> but never quite in my actual town. |
| 07:47:57 | Lamp89 | [7:07:29] <Lamp89> eh i cant do it, i'm just gonna use the embedded freenode client |
| 07:47:59 | Lamp89 | [7:07:35] <kaen> haha |
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| 07:48:01 | Lamp89 | [7:07:48] <kaen> irc is awesome |
| 07:48:03 | Lamp89 | [7:08:05] <kaen> I'm idling in 17 channels right now... |
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| 07:48:05 | Lamp89 | [7:12:02] <Lamp89> okay i asked |
| 07:48:07 | Lamp89 | [7:12:02] <Lamp89> [23:11] <Lamp89_> hello, may I please have an unaffiliated cloak? |
| 07:48:09 | Lamp89 | [7:12:27] <Lamp89> he said: |
| 07:48:11 | Lamp89 | [7:12:28] <Lamp89> [23:12] <+jayne> Lamp89_: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks and be aware that an unaffiliated cloak will have no effect on webchat |
| 07:48:13 | Lamp89 | [7:12:59] <kaen> makes sense |
| 07:48:15 | Lamp89 | [7:13:21] <Lamp89> i read it |
| 07:48:17 | Lamp89 | [7:13:24] <Lamp89> Can I get a hostname cloak? |
| 07:48:19 | Lamp89 | [7:13:24] <Lamp89> You can ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode. This is our standard cloak and normally shows @unaffiliated/youraccountname. You will need a registered nickserv account. Some of our registered groups offer their own cloaks for their projects. To obtain one of these, you need to find the group contact for the group you are interested in, and ask them to arrange the cloak for you. Lastly, if you ma |
| 07:48:21 | Lamp89 | ke a donation to th |
| 07:48:23 | Lamp89 | [7:13:24] <Lamp89> e Peer-Directed Projects Center. our parent group, we offer special donation cloaks in acknowledgement. |
| 07:48:25 | Lamp89 | [7:13:25] <Lamp89> We generally offer only one cloak per person, and a cloak is applied to a nickserv account. If you want a cloak for your bot, please create a separate account for it before asking. |
| 07:48:27 | Lamp89 | [7:13:27] <Lamp89> As always, please observe good behaviour and adhere to network policies whilst wearing cloaks. We reserve the right to refuse to cloak accounts, and to remove cloaks from accounts if necessary. |
| 07:48:29 | Lamp89 | [7:13:29] <Lamp89> Lastly, note that a cloak does not guarantee that your IP address remains hidden. If this is very important to you, we'd suggest that you look at the Tor hidden service. |
| 07:48:31 | Lamp89 | [7:13:33] <kaen> yeah... |
| 07:48:33 | Lamp89 | [7:13:35] <kaen> I read it too |
| 07:48:35 | Lamp89 | [7:13:38] <Lamp89> wow this app has a feature for pasting large stuff |
| 07:48:37 | Lamp89 | [7:13:44] <Lamp89> cool |
| 07:48:39 | Lamp89 | [7:13:46] <Lamp89> :D |
| 07:48:41 | Lamp89 | [7:13:50] <Lamp89> so |
| 07:48:43 | Lamp89 | [7:13:57] <Lamp89> i need to be affiliated with something? |
| 07:48:45 | Lamp89 | [7:14:02] <kaen> no |
| 07:48:47 | Lamp89 | [7:14:10] <kaen> you'll just get an unaffiliated cloak |
| 07:48:49 | Lamp89 | [7:14:18] <kaen> which is what raptor and I have |
| 07:48:51 | Lamp89 | [7:14:25] <Lamp89> How did you get one? |
| 07:48:53 | Lamp89 | [7:14:32] <kaen> same way you are :) |
| 07:48:55 | Lamp89 | [7:14:35] <kaen> are you still in the channel? |
| 07:48:57 | Lamp89 | [7:14:37] <Lamp89> did i get one? |
| 07:48:59 | Lamp89 | [7:14:45] <Lamp89> im in the freenode channel, yes |
| 07:49:01 | Lamp89 | [7:14:49] <kaen> just wait |
| 07:49:03 | Lamp89 | [7:15:07] <kaen> did you respond to him? say something like "I understand" |
| 07:49:05 | Lamp89 | [7:15:08] <Lamp89> wow there's A LOT of users there |
| 07:49:07 | Lamp89 | [7:15:26] <Lamp89> [23:15] <Lamp89_> jayne: I understand |
| 07:49:09 | Lamp89 | [7:15:49] <Lamp89> :\ |
| 07:49:11 | Lamp89 | [7:15:51] * kaen slaps forehead. |
| 07:49:13 | Lamp89 | [7:16:02] * Lamp89 is confused |
| 07:49:15 | Lamp89 | [7:16:07] <Lamp89> what? |
| 07:49:17 | Lamp89 | [7:17:17] <Lamp89> did I do something wrong? |
| 07:49:19 | Lamp89 | [7:17:17] <Lamp89> :| |
| 07:49:21 | Lamp89 | [7:17:37] <kaen> oh dude |
| 07:49:23 | Lamp89 | [7:17:39] <kaen> you're sillyl |
| 07:49:25 | Lamp89 | [7:17:42] <Lamp89> what |
| 07:49:27 | Lamp89 | [7:17:45] <kaen> you asked as lamp89_ |
| 07:49:29 | Lamp89 | [7:17:51] <kaen> and that nick isn't authed with nickserv |
| 07:49:31 | Lamp89 | [7:17:52] <Lamp89> yes |
| 07:49:33 | Lamp89 | [7:18:01] <Lamp89> OH CRAP DX |
| 07:49:35 | Lamp89 | [7:18:03] <kaen> so this guy thinks you're a total noob xD |
| 07:49:37 | Lamp89 | [7:18:05] <Lamp89> FAIL |
| 07:49:39 | Lamp89 | [7:18:13] <Lamp89> should i exit? |
| 07:49:41 | Lamp89 | [7:18:20] <kaen> close the lamp89_ one |
| 07:49:43 | Lamp89 | [7:18:33] <Lamp89> i did |
| 07:49:45 | Lamp89 | [7:18:33] <kaen> come back as the authed you and say you didn't realize you weren't authed |
| 07:49:47 | Lamp89 | [7:18:59] <Lamp89> I probably have to log out of here to log in there |
| 07:49:49 | Lamp89 | [7:19:03] <kaen> no |
| 07:49:51 | Lamp89 | [7:19:06] <Lamp89> what |
| 07:49:53 | Lamp89 | [7:19:10] <Lamp89> ill try again |
| 07:49:55 | Lamp89 | [7:19:12] <kaen> should just open in a new tab |
| 07:49:57 | Lamp89 | [7:19:52] <kaen> nope |
| 07:49:59 | Lamp89 | [7:20:04] <Lamp89> bbr |
| 07:50:01 | Lamp89 | [7:20:05] <kaen> you're still unauthed on that account |
| 07:50:03 | Lamp89 | [7:20:06] <Lamp89> brb |
| 07:50:05 | Lamp89 | [7:20:08] <kaen> k |
| 07:50:07 | Lamp89 | [7:21:42] <Lamp89> back |
| 07:50:09 | Lamp89 | [7:21:51] <Lamp89> im gonna log out of here and log back in at the webchat |
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| 07:50:15 | Lamp89 | [7:22:47] <Lamp89> there we go |
| 07:50:17 | Lamp89 | [7:23:53] <Lamp89> kaen |
| 07:50:19 | Lamp89 | [7:24:06] <kaen> hello |
| 07:50:21 | Lamp89 | [7:25:08] <Lamp89> okay now i am logged in and am in #freenode |
| 07:50:23 | Lamp89 | [7:25:15] <Lamp89> will they install a cloak for me? |
| 07:50:25 | Lamp89 | [7:25:26] <kaen> likely, just wait now |
| 07:50:27 | Lamp89 | [7:25:42] <Lamp89> Do they tell me when they're finished? |
| 07:50:29 | Lamp89 | [7:25:45] <kaen> yes. |
| 07:50:31 | Lamp89 | [7:25:57] <Lamp89> about how long will it take? |
| 07:50:33 | Lamp89 | [7:26:33] <kaen> usually just a few minutes |
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| 07:50:43 | Lamp89 | [7:26:46] <kaen> but if not, the etiquette is to wait a few hours between requests |
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| 15:26:24 | raptor | good morning! |
| 15:50:57 | kaen | morning |
| 15:51:23 | raptor | i think i have a threading issue with the logbot... |
| 15:52:26 | kaen | why do you say that? |
| 15:52:38 | raptor | because after a few days it stops posting commit messages |
| 15:52:49 | kaen | oh whoa |
| 15:52:52 | raptor | happened ever since i programmed it to receive socket connections... |
| 15:53:10 | watusimoto | hi |
| 15:53:15 | raptor | hi watusimoto |
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| 15:57:50 | raptor | i wonder if it is the system thread limit... |
| 16:01:25 | bobdaduck | lol at lamp looking for sands of time... |
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| 16:02:53 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Fri Jan 18 20:33:17 GMT 2013 |
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| 16:05:01 | raptor | yep, hitting the thread limit on the system (which is at 2048) |
| 16:05:06 | raptor | err 1024 |
| 16:05:11 | raptor | i increased it to 2048 |
| 16:06:08 | raptor | nobody panic! i'm restarting master! |
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| 16:07:02 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Fri Jan 18 20:33:17 GMT 2013 |
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| 16:08:14 | kaen | wait, there's a system limit on the number of threads you can create? |
| 16:08:22 | raptor | yes |
| 16:08:24 | kaen | like over the lifetime of a program? |
| 16:08:31 | raptor | it's to prevent fork bombs |
| 16:08:56 | kaen | makes sense. |
| 16:09:03 | raptor | see here: http://stackoverflow.com/a/10777257 |
| 16:09:06 | kaen | I only expected to limit you to N at a time |
| 16:09:11 | kaen | rather than N, ever. |
| 16:09:24 | raptor | yeah... me too |
| 16:10:56 | raptor | maybe i should code in a thread pool... |
| 16:11:05 | raptor | or maybe just rewrite the whole thing in python |
| 16:12:08 | raptor | some day.. |
| 16:13:21 | bobdaduck | Guys I still don't want to release sands of time |
| 16:13:24 | bobdaduck | Am I a bad person? |
| 16:13:27 | raptor | no |
| 16:13:51 | raptor | i was explicit in stating i would release contest maps unless people didn't want me to |
| 16:14:49 | bobdaduck | I feel like |
| 16:14:52 | bobdaduck | as soon as I release it |
| 16:15:11 | bobdaduck | there will suddenly be like fourty rip-off maps the next day |
| 16:15:20 | bobdaduck | And that no one will ever want to play an actual game ever again. |
| 16:15:33 | bobdaduck | I DON'T EVEN LIKE DUNGEONS. |
| 16:15:54 | bobdaduck | I just made it because everyone kept making "dungeons" that were really just 500 turrets in a line... |
| 16:16:03 | raptor | i have to admit that Quartz' 2-team dungeons are kind of neat |
| 16:16:29 | bobdaduck | Yeah |
| 16:16:35 | bobdaduck | But at least they're competitive. |
| 16:16:40 | raptor | 'ghost' server is down again!! |
| 16:16:47 | bobdaduck | Huh. |
| 16:16:47 | raptor | oh.. because i restarted master, duh... |
| 16:16:51 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 16:16:54 | bobdaduck | Was gonna say |
| 16:17:13 | raptor | ok back up |
| 16:17:27 | bobdaduck | I can stand Quartz' dungeons because they're competitive and because they're short, usually under 5 minutes... |
| 16:17:33 | bobdaduck | Most dungeons though |
| 16:17:38 | bobdaduck | You just figure out the secret |
| 16:17:41 | bobdaduck | and then that's the end of it. |
| 16:18:09 | bobdaduck | People talking about "speedrunning" dungeons... I beat sands of time in two minutes. |
| 16:18:16 | bobdaduck | solo. |
| 16:18:21 | raptor | heh |
| 16:18:22 | bobdaduck | So... |
| 16:19:09 | bobdaduck | /rant |
| 16:21:01 | bobdaduck | SO WASSUP EVERYBODY? |
| 16:22:49 | raptor | good day |
| 16:23:02 | kaen | PLAYING WITH MY AWESOME NEW IDE |
| 16:23:30 | kaen | set up my key bindings, now I almost never have to use the damn mouse |
| 16:23:43 | raptor | heh |
| 16:24:14 | kaen | I also installed cscope |
| 16:24:44 | kaen | which lets me find declarations of variables inside of those RPC declarations |
| 16:24:52 | kaen | from inside* |
| 16:25:20 | bobdaduck | I have no idea what you just said but I'm happy for you! |
| 16:28:55 | raptor | have you figured out how to do different build customizations for the same project? like i want to be able to do 'make master' 'make dedicated' 'make' |
| 16:30:05 | kaen | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 16:30:21 | kaen | oh, that's unrelated to what you just said, raptor |
| 16:31:06 | kaen | I'll elaborate in a moment, but yes that's easy |
| 16:31:37 | kaen | in the project settings, along the top there is a drop down for selecting a target to configure |
| 16:32:04 | kaen | you can edit the targets that show up in the "configuration manager" |
| 16:32:52 | kaen | and then in the workspace browser, there is another drop down to select the target to actually build |
| 16:33:02 | watusimoto | what's your new ide? |
| 16:33:10 | kaen | which also contains the option to launch the configuration manager |
| 16:33:15 | kaen | codelite |
| 16:33:48 | kaen | it's probably not so awesome if you're used to vc++ |
| 16:34:00 | kaen | I used that the other day for the first time... it's pretty slick |
| 16:34:44 | kaen | also, I just spent like a day and a half trying to pin down a bug that was basically due to not setting a callback. |
| 16:35:05 | kaen | (in an unrelated project) |
| 16:36:07 | kaen | but raptor, usually you just make different projects for things like dedicated, master, and the client |
| 16:36:20 | kaen | have them all in the same workspace, with just release/debug targets for each |
| 16:36:27 | raptor | ah ok |
| 16:36:49 | raptor | well, i did them as 'run configuration's in eclipse, but it was kind of hacky... |
| 16:39:17 | raptor | ok, let me see if i can set this up OK |
| 16:39:34 | raptor | kaen: did you bind anything to 'goto decl/impl' ? |
| 16:39:54 | raptor | sadly i cannot seem to be able to bind keyboard + mouse combos |
| 16:40:16 | kaen | I used ctrl+shift+n/m respectively |
| 16:40:26 | kaen | defiNition, iMplementation |
| 16:40:33 | raptor | ha, ok |
| 16:45:18 | raptor | good news! mp3 patents expire in 2017! then we can play mp3 with bitfighter |
| 16:45:22 | raptor | :) |
| 16:46:27 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 16:55:59 | raptor | kaen: is there a way to make a project dependent on another? |
| 16:56:18 | raptor | like i want to make my bitfighter project dependent on 'tnl' and 'libtomcrypt' |
| 16:56:27 | raptor | or maybe i'm still going about this the wrong way.. |
| 17:27:44 | kaen | I thought there was in C::B |
| 17:27:52 | kaen | but I haven't seen anything for it in codelite |
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| 17:59:39 | bobdaduck | If you go the "armor panels that get used up after ten shots" route |
| 17:59:53 | bobdaduck | You'll have to make it so that upon entering a loadout zone all the panels are refreshed. |
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| 18:20:33 | raptor | that would be strong armor... |
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| 18:25:13 | bobdaduck | Because |
| 18:25:16 | bobdaduck | if we don't |
| 18:25:23 | bobdaduck | people will just change their loadout off armor |
| 18:25:26 | bobdaduck | then change it back to armor |
| 18:25:29 | bobdaduck | to refresh it. |
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| 20:10:44 | bobdaduck | Hi wat |
| 20:10:55 | bobdaduck | Wat are you doing here? |
| 20:11:02 | bobdaduck | Its wat, 2 am where you are? |
| 20:13:33 | raptor | add 8 |
| 20:15:36 | bobdaduck | 10? |
| 20:15:41 | raptor | 8 |
| 20:15:52 | bobdaduck | 8? |
| 20:15:52 | raptor | 9:15 there |
| 20:16:10 | bobdaduck | 2+8... |
| 20:16:29 | bobdaduck | Oh watever I get it. |
| 20:16:38 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 20:16:40 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 20:16:52 | Watusimoto | will I solve the lua issue tonight? |
| 20:17:02 | Watusimoto | gentlemen, place your bets |
| 20:17:13 | bobdaduck | Two curly fries |
| 20:17:25 | bobdaduck | On the pun guy. |
| 20:17:48 | raptor | i say yes! |
| 20:17:51 | raptor | maybe |
| 20:21:02 | bobdaduck | Betting against raptor |
| 20:21:09 | bobdaduck | For the sake of creating needless conflict |
| 20:42:37 | raptor | what |
| 20:42:46 | raptor | i just found base91 encoding |
| 20:42:55 | raptor | slightly better than base64... |
| 20:43:26 | raptor | in terms of size |
| 20:43:38 | raptor | but i'd have to write my own decoder in javascript |
| 20:43:48 | | raptor will not take cyanide twice in 2 days |
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| 20:47:51 | Lamp89 | hullo |
| 20:48:13 | Lamp89 | Whats with log bot? |
| 20:48:22 | Lamp89 | He has a 2 in his name |
| 20:49:58 | Lamp89 | Hullo Watusimoto; Hullo Nothing_Much; Hullo kaen; Hullo Darrel; Hullo bobdaduck; Hullo sam686; Hullo raptor; Hullo Lamp89 |
| 20:50:05 | | Lamp89 was kicked from #bitfighter by raptor |
| 20:50:54 | Nothing_Much | what? |
| 20:51:03 | Nothing_Much | why'd he get kicked? |
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| 20:54:52 | Lamp89 | Nothing_Much: I was kicked because I did something that was frowned upon and I didn't know. |
| 20:54:58 | raptor | hi Lamp89, welcome back! |
| 20:55:21 | Lamp89 | I'm reading the log |
| 20:55:28 | raptor | see... that's me abusing my admin privileges |
| 20:55:48 | kaen | kicking people who mass highlight is not normally considered abuse... |
| 20:55:59 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 20:56:00 | kaen | you graciously didn't set +b :) |
| 20:56:05 | Nothing_Much | mass highlight? |
| 20:56:11 | Lamp89 | What's +b? |
| 20:56:20 | kaen | THA BANHAMMER, LAMP |
| 20:56:27 | raptor | haha |
| 20:56:30 | Lamp89 | oh |
| 20:56:32 | Lamp89 | :S |
| 20:56:39 | kaen | I'm just playing :) |
| 20:56:44 | raptor | Lamp89: no hard feelings, i kicked partly in jest |
| 20:56:49 | Lamp89 | don't freak me like that, it reminds me of bad times |
| 20:56:55 | raptor | ah ok |
| 20:56:56 | Lamp89 | @kaen |
| 20:56:56 | Darrel | lol |
| 20:57:06 | Darrel | and I was wondering why would anyone ping me :)) |
| 20:57:51 | kaen | Nothing_Much, yeah some people have clients set to beep or do other things when their usernames are used in a channel |
| 20:57:51 | Watusimoto | hi Darrel! |
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| 20:58:34 | Darrel | my client only does some flashing stuff.. Though I was thinking of setting some beep or other sound.. |
| 20:58:47 | kaen | yeah, mine just changes the system tray icon |
| 20:59:05 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 20:59:13 | kaen | which works well with my nine desktops... |
| 20:59:19 | Darrel | Lol! |
| 20:59:56 | Darrel | I never managed to get used to the multiple desktops in kubuntu... well, for a "hardcore windows user" it's kind of weird |
| 21:00:06 | raptor | one for each GB of memory (roughly) |
| 21:00:14 | kaen | the gnome/unity desktops are heavy |
| 21:00:20 | kaen | workspaces, rather |
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| 21:01:02 | kaen | but awesomewm is really lightweight |
| 21:01:14 | kaen | I actually can't even find it one my top right now... |
| 21:01:41 | kaen | well, it's far below my terminal emulators in memory and cpu usage, so... |
| 21:02:46 | raptor | i may have scared off Lamp... |
| 21:02:54 | bobdaduck | How so? |
| 21:03:09 | kaen | naa |
| 21:03:44 | bobdaduck | What'd you do? |
| 21:04:30 | Darrel | nah, I doubt it |
| 21:04:42 | Darrel | one kick shouldn't be that scary :) |
| 21:04:50 | raptor | increased his learning about IRC... |
| 21:04:52 | raptor | in a manner |
| 21:04:56 | Darrel | Hehe |
| 21:05:12 | Nothing_Much | e17's pretty cool too |
| 21:07:14 | kaen | definitely |
| 21:07:34 | kaen | probably my second favorite after awesome |
| 21:07:44 | kaen | I might even like it more than awesome... I can't remember. |
| 21:08:00 | bobdaduck | what? |
| 21:08:09 | Nothing_Much | e17's extremely fast to boot |
| 21:08:13 | Nothing_Much | even on my older hardwre |
| 21:08:15 | kaen | be more specific with your inquiries, bobdaduck |
| 21:08:19 | raptor | i've got an evil chimera: kde desktop + openbox WM |
| 21:08:20 | kaen | similarly with awesome |
| 21:08:23 | Nothing_Much | it booted much much faster than xfce4 |
| 21:08:31 | kaen | oh yes |
| 21:08:41 | raptor | performs well + all the kde applets |
| 21:08:46 | kaen | any full DE will be slower than a simple WM |
| 21:08:47 | bobdaduck | was confused |
| 21:08:48 | bobdaduck | awesome is someone who occasionally plays bitfighter |
| 21:08:57 | Nothing_Much | e17 actually looks like a full DE now |
| 21:09:00 | bobdaduck | NOPE turns out you guys are just talking about... Well, whatever you're talking about. |
| 21:09:03 | Nothing_Much | did you see it recently? |
| 21:09:06 | raptor | bobdaduck: we're talking about linux desktop environments |
| 21:09:13 | bobdaduck | *goes into hibernation* |
| 21:09:20 | kaen | in the last year or so, yes |
| 21:09:38 | Nothing_Much | e17 just came out |
| 21:09:41 | Nothing_Much | e16 was last year |
| 21:09:51 | kaen | maybe I'm thinking of e16 then |
| 21:09:54 | Nothing_Much | e17's finally been released this month or last month |
| 21:09:54 | kaen | hold on |
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| 21:10:15 | kaen | okay, I've used both |
| 21:10:20 | Nothing_Much | enlightenment was considered e17 even before e17 was out |
| 21:10:21 | kaen | I was thinking of 16 though |
| 21:10:30 | Nothing_Much | 17's better |
| 21:10:35 | bobdaduck | Hey lamp |
| 21:10:37 | kaen | that's a matter of opinion :) |
| 21:10:40 | bobdaduck | Make me a soccer map |
| 21:10:41 | kaen | 16 gets in my way less |
| 21:10:43 | bobdaduck | that plays well competitively |
| 21:10:45 | bobdaduck | k? |
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| 21:12:01 | kaen | e17 certainly looks like a full DE, as I remember it |
| 21:12:16 | kaen | and I've used a development version of it several years ago |
| 21:12:27 | raptor | yeah e17 is a DE |
| 21:12:50 | raptor | how come no one mentions TWM?? it's the BEST EVAR!@2 |
| 21:13:16 | Nothing_Much | twm? |
| 21:13:41 | kaen | I've never used it, raptor. or even heard of it |
| 21:13:46 | kaen | congrats. |
| 21:13:57 | raptor | that's because... it's The Window Manager |
| 21:14:09 | raptor | basically, it's the default shipped with X |
| 21:14:16 | kaen | oh haha |
| 21:14:30 | kaen | I'll have to give it a shot some time... |
| 21:14:36 | raptor | http://screenshots.debian.net/package/twm |
| 21:14:47 | raptor | ok, 'Tabbed...' whatever |
| 21:14:56 | kaen | OH YEAH |
| 21:15:16 | kaen | looks sweet with iceweasel |
| 21:15:17 | kaen | and mutt |
| 21:15:18 | kaen | rofl |
| 21:15:22 | raptor | haha |
| 21:15:26 | kaen | this is from like 1999 I bet |
| 21:15:43 | raptor | it can possible be that young.. |
| 21:15:45 | raptor | *can't |
| 21:15:52 | raptor | *possibly |
| 21:15:54 | kaen | bahaha |
| 21:15:59 | kaen | I'm sure you're right |
| 21:16:30 | Nothing_Much | holy hell |
| 21:16:35 | raptor | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm |
| 21:16:37 | raptor | haha |
| 21:16:42 | raptor | initial release 1987 |
| 21:18:14 | Nothing_Much | hmm |
| 21:18:20 | Nothing_Much | desura's taking quite a while |
| 21:18:54 | kaen | "I sat down at my monochrome Sun 3/50 and typed vi twm.c and then opened the X11 documentation" |
| 21:19:04 | raptor | hahaha |
| 21:19:06 | Nothing_Much | oh a guest posted on the moddb page, just a guest tho |
| 21:19:40 | bobdaduck | What's the status on desura? I haven't heard any updates on that in a while.. |
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| 21:20:05 | bobdaduck | Lamp |
| 21:20:08 | bobdaduck | Request for you |
| 21:20:29 | raptor | news will come when news comes... |
| 21:20:37 | Lamp89 | back |
| 21:20:54 | Lamp89 | soccer map? |
| 21:20:58 | raptor | looks like they approved the mac standalone installer |
| 21:21:06 | Lamp89 | whats the news? |
| 21:21:25 | bobdaduck | yeah make me a soccer map :D |
| 21:22:11 | bobdaduck | So someone should approve the guest's comment then? |
| 21:22:22 | bobdaduck | on moddb |
| 21:22:22 | Lamp89 | so... |
| 21:22:23 | Lamp89 | i did make one |
| 21:22:26 | Lamp89 | moddb? |
| 21:22:39 | raptor | uhhh... i'll try? |
| 21:23:08 | Lamp89 | I made a soccer map yesterday |
| 21:23:09 | Lamp89 | http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1712&p=17347 |
| 21:23:09 | bobdaduck | Like lamp |
| 21:23:14 | bobdaduck | make a competitive-playable soccer map |
| 21:23:16 | Lamp89 | ? |
| 21:23:19 | Lamp89 | oh |
| 21:23:30 | bobdaduck | not just a silly one :P |
| 21:23:45 | raptor | the comment is "this game is really fun! ' |
| 21:24:01 | raptor | but i don't know how to approve... |
| 21:24:06 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:24:17 | bobdaduck | Hit buttons until it works |
| 21:24:28 | raptor | i think i gave them karma |
| 21:24:33 | raptor | that button didn't work.. |
| 21:25:13 | raptor | bobdaduck: you have a review? |
| 21:25:21 | bobdaduck | Maybe? |
| 21:25:31 | bobdaduck | I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING |
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| 21:33:59 | Lamp89 | So raptor, will you add Little_Apple's smilies to the forum? |
| 21:34:29 | raptor | i added one |
| 21:34:47 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:34:57 | bobdaduck | I am against it |
| 21:35:19 | bobdaduck | Except for one which he hasn't made which I'll need to make... |
| 21:35:35 | bobdaduck | I want a ship doing the zap dance |
| 21:35:35 | raptor | and did it for fun, probably temporarily |
| 21:35:37 | bobdaduck | as one of our smilies |
| 21:36:00 | bobdaduck | 'cause that could actually work. |
| 21:36:21 | | raptor still doesn't know what the Zap Dance is.. |
| 21:36:42 | bobdaduck | Poor boy. |
| 21:36:47 | bobdaduck | WIll remedy this soon. |
| 21:38:02 | bobdaduck | We'd only need like 7 frames for the emote |
| 21:38:42 | bobdaduck | But I'm not sure how to do this kind of stuff xD |
| 21:38:51 | bobdaduck | It'd just need to be a gif, right? |
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| 21:39:29 | raptor | yes they are GIFs |
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| 21:39:58 | bobdaduck | what are the pixel dimensions? |
| 21:40:57 | raptor | well, the normal ones are 15x17 |
| 21:41:04 | raptor | but LA's are 22x22 and it handles those OK |
| 21:41:43 | raptor | found another that is 17x18 |
| 21:41:56 | bobdaduck | 20x20 will be fine then? |
| 21:42:07 | raptor | sure |
| 21:42:44 | bobdaduck | arg, I'll need to install flash and figure it out |
| 21:43:05 | raptor | what? no.. you can use the GIMP to have multiframed GIFs |
| 21:43:43 | bobdaduck | Oh, I'll have to install gimp and figure it out then. |
| 21:44:36 | bobdaduck | ARG |
| 21:44:50 | bobdaduck | I'll have to hand-draw the ships, won't I? |
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| 21:46:47 | Lamp89 | You didnt add little apple's emote. I dont see it in the emote list. |
| 21:47:17 | raptor | it's there |
| 21:47:21 | raptor | you have stale cache |
| 21:47:31 | Lamp89 | Oh i need to clear cache? |
| 21:49:23 | bobdaduck | So I'd have to hand draw the ships yes? |
| 21:49:38 | raptor | you can import other graphics as a base |
| 21:50:59 | Lamp89 | I thought you would add it to the list, but instead you replaced one. :| |
| 21:51:13 | bobdaduck | What's a good frame count for a forum emote? |
| 21:51:26 | Lamp89 | 6 or less i guess |
| 21:51:29 | bobdaduck | Is the framerate like 60 or...? |
| 21:51:40 | raptor | framrate is like 3 |
| 21:51:42 | Lamp89 | Some emotes are like movies and have many frames |
| 21:51:45 | Lamp89 | I dont like them |
| 21:52:17 | bobdaduck | hm. |
| 21:52:19 | Lamp89 | I like the ones that came with the bitfighter forum. |
| 21:52:30 | bobdaduck | is 9 frames too much? |
| 21:52:34 | bobdaduck | 7 |
| 21:52:35 | bobdaduck | or 5? |
| 21:52:39 | Lamp89 | nah |
| 21:52:48 | Lamp89 | if it's like the rofl one then no |
| 21:52:50 | raptor | 2 is probably fine |
| 21:53:09 | raptor | you can have two frames, each take 1/2 second |
| 21:53:10 | Lamp89 | but if it's like the ones that move their mouth and you dont know what they are saying and they do things then yes |
| 21:53:12 | raptor | or 4 |
| 21:53:21 | bobdaduck | I need an odd number of frames |
| 21:53:22 | Lamp89 | i like the rofl one |
| 21:53:25 | bobdaduck | and at least 5. |
| 21:54:32 | Lamp89 | the ones here arent good. i dont like them. http://www.sherv.net/rofl-emoticon-3043.html |
| 21:54:56 | bobdaduck | what |
| 21:54:57 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 21:55:02 | bobdaduck | LETS NOT DOWNLOAD SMILIES |
| 21:55:05 | bobdaduck | YOU KNOW WHERE THAT LEADS? |
| 21:55:14 | bobdaduck | "great deals" |
| 21:55:16 | bobdaduck | *shudder* |
| 21:55:44 | raptor | i rated them at 0.5 out of 5 |
| 21:56:07 | Lamp89 | I like these two: http://www.incredibots.com/if/images/smilies/rollin.gif and http://www.incredibots.com/if/images/smilies/srsface.gif |
| 21:56:17 | Lamp89 | wow how'd it doo that |
| 21:56:22 | Lamp89 | http://www.incredibots.com/if/images/smilies/srsface.gif |
| 21:56:26 | Lamp89 | cool |
| 21:56:35 | Lamp89 | it showed the image |
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| 22:03:55 | Watusimoto | in the 45 seconds or so I was logging bf, I got over 435000 log entry lines (capture a bit more than usual here...) |
| 22:04:09 | Watusimoto | now to start reading... |
| 22:04:25 | bobdaduck | lolwhat? |
| 22:04:44 | raptor | lots o' debugging |
| 22:20:59 | raptor | sam686: if you're around tonight, want to do some playtesting? |
| 22:21:25 | raptor | because I think this Lua bug that wat is working on is one of the last ones... |
| 22:38:12 | bobdaduck | What is the best way to make a rootbeer float at 2 in the morning? |
| 22:38:56 | raptor | bowl + ice cream (flavor of your choice) + root beer + spoon (possibly straw) |
| 22:39:57 | bobdaduck | Don't rootbeer floats usually go in mugs? |
| 22:40:18 | raptor | you said 2am and a bowl is in easier reach at my house than a mug |
| 22:41:09 | raptor | in the dark |
| 22:41:14 | raptor | with poor muscle control |
| 22:42:16 | bobdaduck | Ah |
| 22:42:26 | bobdaduck | so you recommend a spoon over a straw? |
| 22:42:39 | raptor | yes |
| 22:42:50 | bobdaduck | Why is that? |
| 22:43:07 | raptor | personal experience - bowls tend to work with spoons |
| 22:44:05 | bobdaduck | Ah. |
| 22:44:10 | bobdaduck | I suppose that makes sense. |
| 22:44:21 | bobdaduck | If I were to use a mug would a spoon still be the best route? |
| 22:45:03 | raptor | depends on the hieght of the mug, but i would still use a spoon, yes |
| 22:45:30 | bobdaduck | hm. |
| 22:45:36 | bobdaduck | Is there a best brand of root beer? |
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| 22:45:58 | raptor | well A&W is always good - i dislike barqs |
| 22:46:07 | bobdaduck | My parents seem to have vetoed high fructose corn syrup, so barqs and A&W are out... |
| 22:46:15 | raptor | heh |
| 22:46:29 | bobdaduck | We have Hansens |
| 22:46:32 | bobdaduck | and Blue sky |
| 22:47:00 | bobdaduck | Are those acceptable substitutes? |
| 22:47:43 | raptor | i'm not sure, i haven't actually had a float in a while (much less soda pop), so I am unfamiliar with brands |
| 22:49:22 | bobdaduck | Well, here's hoping then. |
| 22:49:28 | bobdaduck | Is there a certain kind of ice cream? |
| 22:50:32 | raptor | well vanilla bean was always a favorite... also choc. chip vanilla is fun |
| 22:51:39 | bobdaduck | Alright |
| 22:52:08 | bobdaduck | Remind me what side effects to expect? |
| 22:56:52 | raptor | reduced deductive reasoning, increased emotional response to trivial things |
| 22:57:06 | raptor | actually maybe that's just because of the 2am part... |
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| 22:58:17 | Lamp89 | hi |
| 22:59:05 | raptor | hi |
| 22:59:15 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 22:59:18 | bobdaduck | I'm headed out |
| 22:59:24 | bobdaduck | be back in a bit. |
| 22:59:59 | Lamp89 | i have a cloak |
| 23:00:16 | | raptor welcomes a shadowy Lamp89 |
| 23:00:22 | Lamp89 | :d |
| 23:00:24 | Lamp89 | :D |
| 23:00:31 | Lamp89 | yay cloak buddies |
| 23:00:41 | bobdaduck | What is a cloak? |
| 23:01:09 | Lamp89 | hides your iP |
| 23:01:23 | Lamp89 | go to #freenode and ask for a cloak if you want one |
| 23:01:52 | Lamp89 | Hey bob, do you want to know where you live? |
| 23:01:59 | raptor | bobdaduck: when you do a /whois on an IRC user, it tells you the IP |
| 23:02:11 | raptor | i know where bob lives... like 10 miles away |
| 23:02:14 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 23:02:17 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 23:02:19 | raptor | maybe 5 |
| 23:02:19 | bobdaduck | anyway |
| 23:02:23 | bobdaduck | GOING HOME NOW. |
| 23:02:30 | bobdaduck | be back in 11 min |
| 23:02:34 | raptor | heh |
| 23:02:35 | bobdaduck | wait, snow. Make that 15. |
| 23:02:36 | raptor | later |
| 23:02:37 | bobdaduck | just in case. |
| 23:02:41 | bobdaduck | bye |
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| 23:03:28 | Lamp89 | bobdaduck: http://imgur.com/SUjALWm |
| 23:03:37 | Lamp89 | g2g too bye |
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| 23:04:47 | kaen | oh no. |
| 23:05:02 | kaen | I taught an 11 year old how to use geo ip |
| 23:07:38 | raptor | evil evil evil |
| 23:11:13 | raptor | i just came across this old game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=algSNNceHoI |
| 23:11:24 | raptor | is there anything we could learn from them? |
| 23:11:34 | raptor | it's like bitfighter, but not retro |
| 23:12:23 | raptor | and it looks like windows only |
| 23:15:19 | raptor | but more players... |
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| 23:25:12 | Lamp89 | [23:04:47] <kaen> oh no. |
| 23:25:13 | Lamp89 | [23:05:02] <kaen> I taught an 11 year old how to use geo ip |
| 23:25:22 | Lamp89 | no, i found it out myself. |
| 23:25:39 | Lamp89 | I found it through Flagfox. |
| 23:26:13 | kaen | oh alright. my conscience is clear. |
| 23:26:34 | raptor | absolved |
| 23:26:38 | Lamp89 | Hey raptor. I think you should tweak your log bot because I can find your IP through it. |
| 23:27:00 | Lamp89 | And you live in Utah. |
| 23:27:19 | kaen | I live on earth. |
| 23:27:26 | Lamp89 | I know |
| 23:27:36 | kaen | you checked with your geo ip? |
| 23:27:47 | raptor | Lamp89: i said i lived 10 miles from bob |
| 23:28:01 | Lamp89 | Yes and bob lives in utah too. |
| 23:28:24 | raptor | i'm not afraid of where i live... and almost everything on the internet is public |
| 23:28:28 | kaen | like I said last night, it's not really a big deal... |
| 23:28:40 | Lamp89 | Hey, why is it BFLogBot2? it should be BFLogBot |
| 23:28:48 | kaen | people actively give out at a minimum what state they're in... usually with pictures. |
| 23:29:13 | Lamp89 | anyone wanna play btf? |
| 23:29:26 | bobdaduck | I'M MAKING A COMIC. |
| 23:29:28 | kaen | play.... bitfighter...? |
| 23:29:32 | kaen | why? |
| 23:29:36 | bobdaduck | lol kaen |
| 23:29:37 | raptor | BFLogBot is having personality problems... |
| 23:29:40 | Lamp89 | because... |
| 23:29:46 | Lamp89 | what? |
| 23:29:48 | raptor | why play when you can break it instead! |
| 23:29:52 | Lamp89 | ? |
| 23:29:56 | kaen | \o/ |
| 23:30:02 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 23:30:09 | kaen | /o/ |
| 23:30:30 | bobdaduck | |o| |
| 23:30:44 | kaen | O |
| 23:30:48 | kaen | A |
| 23:31:04 | kaen | he's fat and wearing a skirt. |
| 23:31:21 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 23:31:57 | Lamp89 | who is? |
| 23:32:13 | bobdaduck | O |
| 23:32:13 | bobdaduck | A |
| 23:32:16 | Lamp89 | the text guy? |
| 23:32:19 | kaen | yes. |
| 23:32:21 | Lamp89 | oh |
| 23:32:22 | Lamp89 | hmm |
| 23:33:42 | | raptor 's IRC client fails with non-monospaced font |
| 23:33:43 | Lamp89 | .----------------. .----------------. .----------------. .----------------. |
| 23:33:43 | Lamp89 | | .--------------. || .--------------. || .--------------. || .--------------. | |
| 23:33:43 | Lamp89 | | | _____ | || | __ | || | ____ ____ | || | ______ | | |
| 23:33:43 | Lamp89 | | | |_ _| | || | / \ | || ||_ \ / _|| || | |_ __ \ | | |
| 23:33:43 | Lamp89 | | | | | | || | / /\ \ | || | | \/ | | || | | |__) | | | |
| 23:33:43 | Lamp89 | | | | | _ | || | / ____ \ | || | | |\ /| | | || | | ___/ | | |
| 23:33:44 | Lamp89 | | | _| |__/ | | || | _/ / \ \_ | || | _| |_\/_| |_ | || | _| |_ | | |
| 23:33:47 | Lamp89 | | | |________| | || ||____| |____|| || ||_____||_____|| || | |_____| | | |
| 23:33:48 | Lamp89 | | | | || | | || | | || | | | |
| 23:33:50 | Lamp89 | | '--------------' || '--------------' || '--------------' || '--------------' | |
| 23:33:50 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 23:33:51 | bobdaduck | Lamp |
| 23:33:52 | Lamp89 | '----------------' '----------------' '----------------' '----------------' |
| 23:33:54 | Lamp89 | me too |
| 23:34:00 | bobdaduck | does "play bitfighter" mean "play dungeons" by any chance? |
| 23:34:06 | Lamp89 | no |
| 23:34:30 | Lamp89 | um I use Helvectia for my IRC and its borken, but when I toggled it to monospace it worked |
| 23:34:41 | Lamp89 | Hey bobdaduck, are you on webchat? |
| 23:35:34 | Lamp89 | This is wierd. The log bot is logging messages in incorrect order. |
| 23:35:38 | Lamp89 | [23:32:21] <Lamp89> oh |
| 23:35:38 | Lamp89 | [23:32:22] <Lamp89> hmm |
| 23:35:38 | Lamp89 | [23:33:42] * raptor 's IRC client fails with non-monospaced font |
| 23:35:40 | Lamp89 | [23:33:43] <Lamp89> .----------------. .----------------. .----------------. .----------------. |
| 23:35:42 | Lamp89 | [23:33:43] <Lamp89> | .--------------. || .--------------. || .--------------. || .--------------. | |
| 23:35:44 | Lamp89 | [23:33:43] <Lamp89> | | _____ | || | __ | || | ____ ____ | || | ______ | | |
| 23:35:46 | Lamp89 | [23:33:43] <Lamp89> | | |_ _| | || | / \ | || ||_ \ / _|| || | |_ __ \ | | |
| 23:35:48 | Lamp89 | [23:33:43] <Lamp89> | | | | | || | / /\ \ | || | | \/ | | || | | |__) | | | |
| 23:35:50 | Lamp89 | [23:33:43] <Lamp89> | | | | _ | || | / ____ \ | || | | |\ /| | | || | | ___/ | | |
| 23:35:52 | Lamp89 | [23:33:44] <Lamp89> | | _| |__/ | | || | _/ / \ \_ | || | _| |_\/_| |_ | || | _| |_ | | |
| 23:35:54 | Lamp89 | [23:33:47] <Lamp89> | | |________| | || ||____| |____|| || ||_____||_____|| || | |_____| | | |
| 23:35:56 | Lamp89 | [23:33:48] <Lamp89> | | | || | | || | | || | | | |
| 23:35:58 | Lamp89 | [23:33:50] <Lamp89> | '--------------' || '--------------' || '--------------' || '--------------' | |
| 23:36:00 | Lamp89 | [23:33:50] <bobdaduck> lol |
| 23:36:02 | Lamp89 | [23:33:51] <bobdaduck> Lamp |
| 23:36:04 | Lamp89 | [23:33:52] <Lamp89> '----------------' '----------------' '----------------' '----------------' |
| 23:36:06 | Lamp89 | [23:33:54] <Lamp89> me too |
| 23:36:08 | Lamp89 | :( |
| 23:36:44 | Lamp89 | _ |
| 23:36:44 | Lamp89 | | | |
| 23:36:44 | Lamp89 | | | __ _ _ __ ___ _ __ |
| 23:36:46 | Lamp89 | | | / _` | '_ ` _ \| '_ \ |
| 23:36:48 | Lamp89 | | |___| (_| | | | | | | |_) | |
| 23:36:50 | Lamp89 | |______\__,_|_| |_| |_| .__/ |
| 23:36:52 | Lamp89 | | | |
| 23:36:54 | Lamp89 | |_| |
| 23:37:23 | raptor | Lamp89: please stop spamming the channel |
| 23:37:32 | Lamp89 | ok :\ |
| 23:37:37 | raptor | thank you |
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