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IRC Log for 2013-01-31

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01:02:44bobdaduckraptor
01:02:46bobdaduckZap Dance?
01:07:14Nothing_MuchHi guys
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01:15:32raptorlooks like watusimoto may have not fixed the bug...
01:18:56Nothing_Muchoh
01:19:00Nothing_Muchis that a bad thing?
01:19:33raptorwell, i'm sure he was hoping to
01:20:57Nothing_Muchwhat bug is it?
01:21:05Nothing_Muchthat Lua bug thing?
01:21:25raptoryeah, it's basically preventing robots from working properly
01:24:54Nothing_Muchohh..
01:24:57Nothing_Muchhmm.
01:25:04Nothing_Muchwish I could help if I had programming skills :(
01:30:44Nothing_Muchalls I can say is good luck fixing that bug
01:30:56raptori wish i could help and i have programming skills!
01:31:06raptorthanks... it's a rough one, i think
01:32:23Nothing_Muchwhat do you mean? isn't bf open source or is it just THAT difficult to find?
01:34:28raptoryeah it's a difficult one
01:34:50raptori've already taken a look, and i'm waay over my head
01:44:57Nothing_Muchouch
02:02:35bobdaduckRaptor
02:02:37bobdaduckI found
02:02:41bobdaduckThe original joint map project
02:02:47bobdaduckThe first one EVER.
02:03:06bobdaduckWell, Quartz found. BUT STILL.
02:03:08bobdaduckWE FOUND.
02:03:31bobdaduckQuartz and I are buds. He's okay with me taking credit for his stuff right?
02:09:38Nothing_Muchheresay
02:10:18Nothing_Muchor something
02:10:23Nothing_Muchhow do you know you two are buddies
02:10:35bobdaduckWe're friends on facebook.
02:10:36bobdaduckGG
02:10:44Nothing_Muchnice
02:10:53bobdaduckLOGIC
02:10:56bobdaduckCAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT BRO.
02:11:02Nothing_Muchyep
02:11:04bobdaduckKay I got somewhere to be
02:11:06bobdaduckseeyas
02:11:11Nothing_Muchlater
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02:24:48bobdaduckJust kiddin
02:24:50bobdaduckI'm still here.
02:25:32Nothing_Muchwhat happened?
02:33:23raptorsay what
02:33:34Nothing_Muchbobdaduck said he was goin' somewhere
02:33:47bobdaduckBut then I didn't
02:33:49bobdaduckHEY RAPTOR
02:33:55raptory
02:33:58bobdaduckThe first ever collab map!
02:34:24raptorwhere?
02:34:34bobdaduckHosting
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03:18:11Fordcarshi
03:18:24Nothing_Muchhey Fordcars
03:19:32Fordcarsman I took like an hour to view all the forum posts!
03:19:43Nothing_Muchoh myu
03:19:46Nothing_Much*my
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04:15:27Nothing_Muchsup?
04:17:02amgine1234567890is raptor here
04:17:08raptorhi
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04:18:36Lamp89hullo
04:18:52Nothing_Muchhi sir
04:19:18raptoramgine1234567890: you can ask me directly here - yes i put back armor slippiness for now
04:24:04Lamp89hi
04:24:14Lamp89armor slippines?
04:24:16Lamp89wats dat?
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14:40:13raptorgood morning!
14:43:32raptorheh - it's fun being in timezones that trisect the globe, it takes a minimum of 1 day for communication to go one direction with desura
14:43:37raptor*funy
14:43:40raptor*funny
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16:57:23watusimotohi
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16:57:23watusimotoyes, desura is in an inconvenient timezone
16:57:23watusimotoso, you would have lost the bet -- I made a little progress, but not much in figuring out what the Lua problem was
16:57:28watusimotoI am now thinking it is related to metatables
16:57:37watusimotoand them somehow getting corrupted
16:57:56raptorsigh
16:57:58watusimotointerestingly, the robot bug that FordCars(?) reported in the forums looks like the same thing
16:58:02raptorand my daddy told me never to bet
16:58:04watusimotoso it may not be related to the caching
16:58:07watusimotoyou fool!
16:58:11raptorhehe
16:58:47raptori wonder if it has something to do with something running out: like a counter or something
16:59:02raptorand recent changes just exacerbated a problem that was always there
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16:59:23watusimotopossibly
16:59:28watusimotostill tracking it
16:59:40raptorhow many thousand lines of your log did you get through?
16:59:58watusimotoThe whole thing... the next one was over 2M lines
17:00:07raptoroh man
17:00:23watusimotoyeah, it pretty much sucks
17:00:46watusimotoat least it is reproducable
17:01:26nothing_herehello, what's up guys?
17:01:41raptorhi nothing_here
17:01:46nothing_here(this is nothing_much)
17:01:47raptorare you related to Nothing_Much?
17:01:49nothing_hereat college
17:01:50nothing_herelol
17:01:51raptoroh haha
17:01:57kodabwsanyone attending fosdem this year?
17:02:04raptorhi kodabws
17:02:12nothing_herenever heard of such a thing
17:02:14kodabwshi raptor
17:02:18nothing_heregonna check it out
17:02:40raptorkodabws: i've only heard of them in passing
17:02:55nothing_hereoh it's european only :(
17:02:56raptorbut if it's farther than like 20 miles from my home... then probably not
17:03:09raptoroh, haha - Brussels
17:03:09kodabwsit's in bruxelles :p
17:04:45watusimotodon't know what fosdem is... so probably not
17:05:07watusimotoI might go to foss4g (is that how it's spelled) in England later this year
17:05:31watusimotoif I can write a paper on my current project
17:05:34watusimotoand make that project work
17:05:47watusimoto(in that order of importance! :-)
17:05:51raptorwork project?
17:05:54watusimotoyup
17:05:58raptorneat
17:06:03watusimotoremains to be seen
17:06:09kodabwsgeospatial foss? :O
17:06:15watusimotoyes
17:06:37watusimotowhat's fosdem?
17:06:54raptorlooks like a conference
17:07:08raptorwith order of importance: beer, open source, lightning talks
17:08:22watusimotoit is in belgium, so of course beer comes first
17:08:33watusimotoeven if it is in Brussels :-)
17:08:42raptorheh
17:09:02watusimotobelgium is second only to Oregon in beer quality
17:09:15watusimotoand variety
17:09:41raptor!!!
17:10:09raptormy 1.5 years just drank pennies from tupperware container
17:10:15raptor1.5 year-old
17:10:22watusimotowow
17:10:30raptorthat... can't be good...
17:10:38raptor checks with pediatrician
17:10:54watusimotoif it didn't kill him immediately, he passed the largest obstacle
17:11:06watusimotoyou've got no further options
17:11:09raptorhe choked a bit...
17:11:15raptoryeah, that's what i figured
17:11:22watusimotounless you would contemplate intestinal surgery
17:11:26raptorno
17:11:28raptorthat's crazy
17:11:29watusimotoor solvents
17:11:36raptordissolve the child?
17:11:49kodabwsi beg to differ
17:11:52watusimotoI was thinking of the pennies... but that would work!
17:12:07kodabwsbelgian beers bet oregon beers blindfolded
17:12:23watusimotobwhat?
17:12:32kodabws trolls
17:12:51watusimotohmmmm... that conference is this weekend
17:12:59kodabwsnever tried a beer from oregon, are they similar in taste to belgian ones?
17:13:09watusimotono, much better
17:13:24watusimoto:-)
17:13:33kodabws[citation needed]
17:13:46watusimotoConsider me a primary source
17:13:56kodabwsyou're evidently biased :p
17:14:17watusimotoI'm discounting the stuff I make
17:14:29watusimoto(which might tend to tip the balance in Belgium's favor!)
17:14:49kodabwsyou brew beer? :o
17:15:10watusimotoyes; it's somewhat obligatory if you have Oregon residence
17:15:31watusimotothough after my last two batches, I may have retired
17:15:46kodabwsi need to pay you a visit then :p
17:16:02watusimotoI have plenty!
17:17:38watusimotohmmmm... I can get to Brussels in 3 hours
17:17:45watusimototrains leave every hour
17:18:17kodabws\o/
17:18:23kodabwswhere are you right now?
17:18:28watusimotoLuxembourg
17:19:14watusimotono idea about the cost, but probably no more than 40-50 euros
17:19:22nothing_here has left
17:19:52kodabwsi took airplane tickes 3 months ago, 100?
17:20:37watusimotoI can get a room on Saturday evening for 82 euros
17:20:59watusimotoprobably nowhere near the conference
17:21:23watusimotohere's one for 54
17:21:46watusimotothere's a session on game development
17:22:03kodabwsyes
17:22:07raptormaybe someone can fix our Lua bug...
17:22:17watusimoto:-)
17:22:25kodabwsi was supposed to give a speech regarding mobile porting of hw with the android dev
17:22:31watusimotothere's a session on testing, which I'm kind of interested in
17:22:32kodabwsbut then we disappeared >_<
17:23:40watusimotooh, and that's on sunday
17:23:40watusimotowhich would make logistics easier
17:23:49watusimotogo up saturday, return sunday evening
17:25:02watusimotoand... I think I have nothing going on this weekend
17:25:34watusimotosadly, the beer event is friday
17:25:58kodabwsi miss that too :(
17:26:00watusimotois there a registration process, or do you just show up?
17:26:13kodabwsbut saturday night is free \o/
17:26:17kodabwsyou just show up
17:26:21watusimotoIf I go, we could have our own beer event for those who missed the official ones :-)
17:26:26watusimotoI meant for the conference itself
17:26:34kodabwsyes that too :p
17:26:39watusimotogreat
17:26:58watusimotohmmmm.....
17:27:22watusimotothe conference looks like it's in brussels city center
17:27:32watusimotowhich makes things easy
17:28:07watusimotorather, the beer event on Friday is
17:28:55kodabwsi'll arrive at midnight
17:29:00kodabwsi doubt any beer is left :p
17:29:02watusimotoThe conference is about 1 mile from downtown
17:29:10watusimotoit's belgium! there's always beer left!
17:30:18kodabwsit's at ULB the university campus
17:30:34watusimotoyeah, foudn that on the map
17:32:07watusimotoI'll confer with my wife
17:32:33watusimotothing is... there's not a ton here that looks fascinating
17:32:41watusimotobut I'll bet it will be fun
17:33:07kodabwsdoesn't look fashinating?
17:33:26watusimotowell, I haven't drilled down too far... just looking at titles
17:33:48watusimotobut it doesn't all need ot be; I just need enough interesting topics to motivate me to go
17:34:01watusimotoI assume it's primarily in English
17:34:23watusimotothis looks good!
17:34:23watusimotohttps://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/assholes/
17:34:24kodabwsi'm quite intereted in the legal issues and that's a two day topic :\
17:34:27kodabws:D
17:36:03kodabwsoh man i forgot in which hotel i booked >.<
17:36:38raptorhaha
17:36:45raptorinteresting topic...
17:37:57kodabwsyay it's 400m from the beer festival
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18:37:16Little_Applehey its up!
18:37:26watusimotoand people are playing!
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18:37:58watusimotogood, cause I need to get out of here pronto; will be back in 3 hrs or so
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20:00:43bobdaduckEverytime amgine visits the forums
20:00:52bobdaduck300 new posts
20:02:00raptoryeah...
20:05:07bobdaduckWhoo!
20:05:11bobdaduckZap dance emoticon!
20:06:41raptorbobdaduck: some players want to play on the cannons level...
20:06:45raptorhave it some where?
20:06:50bobdaduckuhhhhhh
20:06:53bobdaduckI'm at work
20:07:09bobdaduckAnd, uh...
20:07:15bobdaduckYeah, I have it somewhere.
20:07:18raptorha
20:07:24raptormaybe i'll just check forums
20:07:31bobdaduckits not there
20:07:37bobdaduckenable pms
20:07:38bobdaduckI'll send it
20:07:57raptordone
20:08:16raptoris it OK to run on sam test, or would you prefer to not distribute it?
20:08:25bobdaduckIts Quartz' level xD
20:08:45raptorwhat does that mean?
20:09:11bobdaduckQuartz made it
20:09:17bobdaduckI doubt he cares if we distribute it.
20:09:36bobdaduck...
20:09:42bobdaduckthe extention .level is not allowed
20:09:48raptorzip
20:10:08bobdaducksent
20:10:33raptorthanks
20:25:14bobdaduckShould I have a blue name on the forums because I'm a moderator?
20:25:24raptormaybe?
20:25:25bobdaduckApparently people were slightly confused by it.
20:26:07raptorhuh - there are old colors for various things..
20:27:37bobdaduckHm?
20:28:55bobdaduckWhat happened to Zoomber?
20:29:13raptorwent to music school... slowly disappeared about a year ago
20:49:37bobdaduckLooks like we have a school playing
20:53:29raptori dare not post again - i'm at 444 count
20:54:37bobdaducklol why?
20:54:50raptori suppose 456 is not that far off...
20:55:15bobdaducklol
21:06:30Darrellol
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21:19:07Nothing_MuchHello guys
21:21:18bobdaduckhello
21:31:05raptoryay elixir
21:31:12raptor(hot spicy soup...)
21:34:26bobdaduckI need inspiration for more comics.
21:35:45raptoronce there was a ship
21:36:05raptorthen there was space debris
21:36:09raptorthe end
21:36:11bobdaducklol
21:36:33bobdaduckI think I can run with that!
21:36:35bobdaduckYou should draw one.
21:36:59raptoryeah just fill in the gaps
21:39:49bobdaduckYou should draw one!
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22:12:05bobdaduckDoes anyone know
22:12:13Nothing_Muchwut
22:12:15bobdaduckWhat is causing my headphones
22:12:20bobdaduckto sound scratchy
22:12:25bobdaduckWhen I turn on noise cancellation?
22:12:31Nothing_Muchnot a clue
22:12:43bobdaduckRapto? Sam?
22:12:51bobdaduckkan?
22:13:09bobdaduckIts not scratchy at first
22:13:16kaenbabdodukc?
22:13:23bobdaduckbut then after a bit it gets really scratchy
22:13:28bobdaduckand the sound quality goes down a lot.
22:13:50bobdaduckThey're pretty new headphones
22:13:58bobdaduckbut I can't find any specific advise on the model
22:14:01kaenthat's the way noise cancellation works
22:14:23kaenyou'd need a perfect image of the noise to cancel it without affecting audio quality
22:14:45bobdaduckit halves the sound quality so that you can't focus on outside noises?
22:14:54kaenreally scratchy is odd, usually sounds less distinct
22:14:55kaenyes,
22:15:03kaendepending on much you "cancel" it
22:16:02bobdaduckFor the first few seconds the sound quality like, doubles when I turn it on
22:16:06kaenhere we go
22:16:06kaenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_noise_control
22:16:10bobdaduckand then it degrades really fast
22:16:21kaenin real life, the red and blue lines don't match so perfectly
22:16:26bobdaduckI know how noise control works
22:16:30kaenso the gray line looks crazy
22:16:41bobdaduckIt hadn't been doing this until recently
22:16:46kaenokay, but I wasn't sure how familiar you were with harmonic motion.
22:17:05kaenwell, you said they were new.
22:17:14bobdaduckmonthish
22:17:19bobdaduckChristmas.
22:17:23kaenif it suddenly *distorts* the sound, then your headphones are clearly broken.
22:17:33kaenfunctional hardware doesn't spontaneously stop working.
22:17:40kaen(unless it isn't functional)
22:18:28bobdaduckWell, yes. I'm asking about a way to fix it because I already knew they are probably broken xD
22:19:20bobdaduckAnd noise does not appear to be all that cancelled.
22:19:56kaenhow nice are your headphones?
22:20:05bobdaduck120$ range
22:20:09kaenif they use electronics for cancellation, you might be out of luck
22:20:27kaenif it's all acoustic, then you likely need a piece of foam/plastic replaced
22:20:27bobdaduckbkgkkkkkk
22:20:44bobdaduckHow do I tell?
22:20:48kaengood thing you got that warrenty
22:20:56kaenuh, not sure
22:21:00kaenwhat model?
22:21:21kaendoes it say "active" on the box?
22:21:29bobdaduckI'm not at home so I can't check
22:21:39kaenwell "active" means it uses electronics
22:21:46kaen"passive" means it's all acoustics
22:22:01kaenbut you should really look into the warranty thing.
22:22:42bobdaduckWell definitely
22:22:50bobdaduckI think active probably.
22:22:56bobdaduck...Seeing as there's an "on off" switch.
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22:23:02kaenoh duh
22:23:03kaenyeah
22:23:40bobdaducklol
22:25:53bobdaduckThe scratchy... Reminds me of like, a low quality amplifier
22:26:05bobdaduckthat has this booming static behind it
22:26:07bobdaducky'know?
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22:58:34Watusimotohi
22:59:43bobdaduckHi
23:00:16bobdaduckYou should draw bitfighter cartoons!
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23:03:38amgine1234566789hi htere hows it going
23:04:01bobdaduckHi amgine
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23:17:36raptorhi
23:20:32raptori'm locking topics!
23:21:07Nothing_Much_something wrong in the forums?
23:21:09Fordcarslol
23:21:18raptorpeople keep bringing up old topics with not many new constructive things to say
23:21:38Nothing_Much_you can just delete them
23:21:40Nothing_Much_and update the rules
23:21:42Nothing_Much_if you need to
23:21:46raptorit's my way of abusing power
23:22:13Nothing_Much_if they're not following rules
23:22:17Nothing_Much_then it's not abuse dude
23:22:24Fordcarshehe
23:22:38Fordcarsthere aren't any rules 0.o
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23:27:50Lamp89Horray for new emoticon!
23:27:54Watusimotogood on ya, mate!
23:27:54Watusimotonow I'm debugging code inside lua itself
23:27:55Lamp89Zap dance!
23:28:09raptoroh hi Watusimoto
23:28:41Lamp89hi all
23:29:13Lamp89Fordcars did you recieve my PM?
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23:42:07Fordcarsgtg later
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23:43:19raptorWatusimoto: what do you think of the idea of temporary badges?
23:43:30Watusimotowhat are those?
23:43:39raptorlike Winner of Quartz weekly bash, gets to have a badge for a week
23:44:03raptorFYI, nothing in that previous statement exists
23:44:55Watusimotosounds like a lot of ongoing work to award them and add them and so one
23:45:04raptoryeah
23:45:07Watusimotobut other than that, it's good
23:45:35Watusimotowhat do you think?
23:50:34raptori was thinking we'd have an interface for 'owners' of the badges to give them out
23:50:34raptoror something
23:50:35raptorbut yes, probably a lot of work...
23:51:21Watusimotohow would we keep little apple from giving out an opti sucks badge?
23:51:26bobdaduckI think whoever has the most games played/most wins per week/month gets a temporary badge for that month.
23:52:07bobdaduckAlso it would need to require admin approval and whatnot because we'd at the very least have to design the visuals for the badge, right?
23:52:43Watusimotoprobably, though we could have a generic badge
23:53:23bobdaduckLets not do a generic badge.
23:53:24bobdaduckxD
23:53:26Nothing_Much_make them official badges and not a "make your own badge" badge
23:54:39bobdaducktemporary badges give players an incentive to stick around... To defend their badge or to try for it
23:54:52WatusimotoI do like some rotating badges, like what bobdaduck said
23:55:04Watusimotoa weekly most plays badge
23:55:07Watusimotomost kills
23:55:10Watusimotomost... whatever
23:55:31Nothing_Much_that sounds reasonable
23:55:43Watusimotomaybe we could have 3 or 4 little icons we could put next to their name, like stars
23:55:50Watusimotofor the rotating badges
23:56:33Watusimotoa star for most plays
23:56:37Watusimotoa red ! for most kills
23:56:38Watusimotoetc
23:59:18bobdaduckOh!
23:59:21bobdaduckI FORGOT.
23:59:23bobdaduckBug:
23:59:52bobdaduckMatchmaking "batting average" system allows for negative numbers, resulting in the strongest player and the weakest player on a team against the middle player.

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