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| 00:36:19 | raptor | ok, off to home |
| 00:36:27 | raptor | i think Watusimoto_ probably fell asleep |
| 00:36:36 | raptor | i want his input on the link to social media sites.. |
| 00:36:46 | Watusimoto_ | yes |
| 00:36:49 | raptor | but he'd probably be ok with it |
| 00:36:52 | raptor | oh hi |
| 00:37:01 | Watusimoto_ | sorry |
| 00:37:04 | Watusimoto_ | good night |
| 00:37:10 | raptor | night! |
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| 03:24:55 | Fordcars | hi plats |
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| 04:03:45 | Fordcars | heh |
| 04:20:53 | Platskies | Hi Fordcars |
| 04:21:23 | Platskies | Ooh |
| 04:21:33 | Fordcars | hi plats |
| 04:21:35 | Platskies | Who's hosting the "LittleMonkey" server? I'm getting about 90 ping |
| 04:21:55 | Fordcars | euh, dunno |
| 04:21:57 | Platskies | Dammit, "server connection problems" |
| 04:23:54 | Fordcars | lol |
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| 04:37:59 | Fordcars | hi rap |
| 04:38:07 | Fordcars | tor |
| 04:38:11 | raptor | rat pro reporting for duty |
| 04:38:30 | Fordcars | wow that messes with my mind |
| 04:38:52 | Fordcars | rap tor rat por rat pro whoa |
| 04:39:17 | raptor | :) |
| 04:39:21 | raptor | yay anagrams |
| 04:39:30 | raptor | or part |
| 04:39:30 | Fordcars | hehe |
| 04:39:36 | raptor | tar pro |
| 04:39:40 | Platskies | raptor: is there someone on the forums hosting the LittleMonkey server? |
| 04:39:49 | Platskies | It's got a really nice ping for me! |
| 04:39:56 | raptor | Platskies: i don't know whose server that is... |
| 04:39:59 | raptor | really? |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | great! |
| 04:40:09 | Platskies | yeah, I get about 80-100 |
| 04:40:09 | raptor | let me do some digging to see if i can find out.. |
| 04:40:23 | Platskies | traceroute oh yeah |
| 04:40:33 | Fordcars | I got around 370 ping on it |
| 04:40:41 | Fordcars | :/ |
| 04:40:49 | raptor | wow, i get over 200 |
| 04:40:55 | raptor | must be across the bigger pond |
| 04:41:07 | Fordcars | yeah :P |
| 04:41:26 | Platskies | :) |
| 04:41:46 | Platskies | I think it's in Sydney |
| 04:41:57 | Platskies | (capital of my state) |
| 04:42:08 | Platskies | about an hours drive from where I live |
| 04:42:16 | Fordcars | Australia, right? |
| 04:42:23 | Platskies | Yep |
| 04:42:34 | Fordcars | nice :P |
| 04:42:40 | raptor | ok, found a client with the same IP |
| 04:42:45 | raptor | nickname is: Nick |
| 04:42:46 | raptor | heh |
| 04:43:17 | Fordcars | I think I saw him once |
| 04:43:25 | Platskies | raptor: in the lobby? |
| 04:43:28 | raptor | Platskies: you're looking for 'Nick' |
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| 05:00:04 | Platskies | I'd probably be better if I had a mouse with more physical buttons :P |
| 05:03:53 | raptor | the lag spikes on that server probably mean it's on a cheap shared VPS |
| 05:04:46 | Platskies | heh |
| 05:04:57 | Platskies | do you know if it's possible in the editor to add points to an existing wall? |
| 05:05:02 | raptor | yes |
| 05:05:09 | raptor | right-click in the middle of a barrier |
| 05:05:15 | raptor | or edge of a polywall |
| 05:05:18 | Platskies | Oh, ok |
| 05:05:21 | raptor | should add a point |
| 05:05:59 | Platskies | It'd be nice if the new point could be outside the existing path |
| 05:06:13 | raptor | oh |
| 05:06:27 | raptor | just draw a new barrier, then click the two and press 'j' to join |
| 05:06:33 | raptor | (I think) |
| 05:06:45 | raptor | been a while since i've actually used the editor to create something.. |
| 05:07:04 | Platskies | j doesn't work |
| 05:07:13 | raptor | hmm... let me look again |
| 05:07:28 | raptor | you can press F1 to see all the functions. there are a few pages |
| 05:07:38 | Platskies | Oh thanks |
| 05:07:45 | Platskies | Seems useful |
| 05:07:56 | raptor | ok, 'j' does work, but only if they share a point |
| 05:08:21 | Platskies | Oh ok |
| 05:08:28 | Platskies | They mention joining on page 3 |
| 05:08:50 | raptor | splitting is possible, too |
| 05:09:16 | Platskies | Awesome, that's handy too |
| 05:19:32 | Platskies | is this a bug? I can't join two lines' by their 0th point |
| 05:19:39 | Platskies | lines* |
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| 06:01:19 | bobdaduck | Morning |
| 06:01:28 | Platskies | Hey bob |
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| 06:36:07 | Platskies | raptor: I haven't looked at any of the game's documentation, but I want to see if a sort-of singleplayer map is possible |
| 06:36:45 | Platskies | basically can turret and force field health be reset when you die? |
| 06:36:55 | raptor | hi Platskies |
| 06:37:03 | raptor | you're probably thinking of a dungeon type map |
| 06:37:09 | Platskies | (in other words it's possible for my map to get easier and easier) |
| 06:37:13 | raptor | bobdaduck is good with dungeons :) |
| 06:37:18 | raptor | actually |
| 06:37:22 | raptor | in the editor |
| 06:37:43 | raptor | many items have editable attributes, if you select one and press <enter> the attribute menu pops up |
| 06:37:51 | raptor | turrets can regenerate |
| 06:37:58 | Platskies | Yeah I know |
| 06:38:10 | Platskies | I'm doing that already, and that makes things harder |
| 06:38:55 | Platskies | I'm just trying to make the difficulty more 'consistent' |
| 06:39:27 | Platskies | by having the level's state reset each time you die… I just don't know if there's a way |
| 06:39:27 | raptor | well, i'm not a very good level designer - i'd ask some of the more experienced folks like bobdaduck or Quartz |
| 06:39:33 | bobdaduck | You might be able to do it with lua scripts |
| 06:39:34 | raptor | ah |
| 06:39:38 | Platskies | isn't there something with Lua? |
| 06:39:41 | Platskies | Ah |
| 06:39:42 | raptor | you may be able to do it with levelgen, yes |
| 06:40:00 | raptor | bobdaduck's our current expert! |
| 06:40:41 | Platskies | :) Okay |
| 06:40:50 | Platskies | I might read the website too |
| 06:40:55 | raptor | oh |
| 06:41:14 | raptor | we have some scripting documentation: http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/index.html |
| 06:41:34 | raptor | but |
| 06:42:14 | raptor | 018 has a levelgen bug that makes them crash :( we've fixed it for 018a - maybe bobdaduck can give you his newer bitfighter copy i made for him with levelgens working |
| 06:42:32 | Platskies | he uses a Mac? |
| 06:42:38 | raptor | no windows |
| 06:42:46 | raptor | i think, but it works on any platform |
| 06:42:50 | raptor | oh wait |
| 06:42:51 | raptor | no |
| 06:42:53 | raptor | you have mac? |
| 06:42:56 | raptor | hmm... |
| 06:42:59 | Platskies | different executable |
| 06:43:13 | raptor | yeah - i thought you meant the levelgen script itself, at first |
| 06:44:55 | raptor | i'd have to get you a newer revision... |
| 06:45:00 | Platskies | Oh, ok |
| 06:45:04 | raptor | bobdaduck: do you remember what revision I gave you? |
| 06:45:25 | Platskies | and don't I need Xcode 3 if I want to compile my own without issues? |
| 06:45:29 | raptor | Platskies: i'd be willing to compile one for you... |
| 06:45:32 | raptor | yes |
| 06:46:02 | raptor | Platskies: 32bit or 64bit? |
| 06:46:17 | Platskies | 64 please |
| 06:46:27 | raptor | ok, then you can tinker :) |
| 06:46:33 | raptor | benefits of being in IRC... |
| 06:49:03 | Platskies | Is the 018a source only available through Hg? |
| 06:49:22 | Platskies | The archive that's on googlecode is 018 |
| 06:49:53 | raptor | yes |
| 06:50:05 | raptor | we'll make another archive when we're done with 018a |
| 06:51:50 | raptor | oops, i built a debug build.. |
| 06:58:01 | bobdaduck | 6264-133f5b6ecea8 |
| 06:59:31 | raptor | thanks! |
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| 07:01:45 | raptor | ha, my kid left bite marks in our cheese blocks in the fridge |
| 07:07:32 | raptor | Platskies: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/1Bitfighter-018a-alpha-6264-133f5b6ecea8.zip |
| 07:07:45 | raptor | that build is for you |
| 07:07:50 | Platskies | thanks :) |
| 07:07:53 | raptor | levelgens and object IDs are working |
| 07:08:23 | raptor | there *may* be some other funniness elsewhere since it's a dev build, but I think that's an OK one |
| 07:08:36 | raptor | at least it's working for bobdaduck.. |
| 07:08:55 | Platskies | OK |
| 07:09:07 | Platskies | I should try and get the Xcode 4 project set up in the meantime |
| 07:09:21 | Platskies | (for later versions) |
| 07:11:07 | raptor | sure |
| 07:11:22 | raptor | i'm not sure exactly what's there now, i think a few people have tried to convert it |
| 07:12:54 | Platskies | that's good |
| 07:19:18 | raptor | anyways time for bed! g'night all! |
| 07:19:24 | Platskies | OK cya |
| 07:19:54 | Platskies | Oh |
| 07:20:03 | Platskies | So it still says 018, is that normla? |
| 07:20:05 | Platskies | normal* |
| 07:20:11 | raptor | yes |
| 07:20:26 | Platskies | OK thanks |
| 07:20:29 | raptor | there's no real rules when it comes to a dev build :) |
| 07:20:45 | Platskies | Heh… |
| 07:21:14 | Platskies | I'll try and compile my own version - if I don't succeed then I'll just use yours |
| 07:21:23 | raptor | ok |
| 07:21:27 | Platskies | Thanks for doing that though |
| 07:21:34 | raptor | no prob |
| 07:21:35 | raptor | night |
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| 07:21:41 | Platskies | OK, cya! |
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| 09:33:15 | Platskies | Hi, I'm trying to compile my own Bitfighter |
| 09:33:30 | watusimoto | great! |
| 09:33:41 | Platskies | I'm stuck on a linker error "alure_init_modplug()" |
| 09:33:48 | Platskies | (not defined) |
| 09:33:52 | watusimoto | what platform? |
| 09:33:52 | Platskies | I installed SDL |
| 09:33:57 | Platskies | OS X |
| 09:34:24 | Platskies | (10.8 & Xcode 4 if it's necessary) |
| 09:34:24 | watusimoto | I've never built for osx but I'll take a guess that you need to install alure |
| 09:34:53 | Platskies | The readme didn't say that… okay |
| 09:34:57 | Platskies | :) |
| 09:35:07 | watusimoto | well, it might not be the right answer :-) |
| 09:35:14 | watusimoto | is the readme on the wiki? |
| 09:35:30 | Platskies | Checking |
| 09:35:52 | Platskies | The version I have is the latest from Hg |
| 09:36:32 | Platskies | And nope, couldn't find the readme on the wik |
| 09:36:35 | Platskies | i |
| 09:36:55 | watusimoto | well, try installing alure and see if that fixes it. If it does, we can update the readme |
| 09:37:09 | Platskies | Okay |
| 09:40:29 | Platskies | BTW, cheers for using module-based music :) |
| 09:40:42 | watusimoto | thanks! The real credit goes to raptor |
| 09:42:03 | Platskies | they usually have that "video game quality" |
| 09:42:41 | watusimoto | indeed |
| 09:47:36 | Platskies | I ran cmake on ALURE, and it said modplug support was disabled |
| 09:47:51 | watusimoto | what time zone are you in? |
| 09:48:07 | Platskies | AEST (GMT+10) |
| 09:48:10 | Platskies | I think |
| 09:48:13 | watusimoto | where is that? |
| 09:48:18 | Platskies | Australia |
| 09:48:27 | watusimoto | oh great! I used to live there! |
| 09:48:33 | Platskies | :) |
| 09:48:57 | watusimoto | I went to uni in Sydney, then moved there for a while a few years later |
| 09:49:17 | Platskies | ah ok, I'm about an hour away from Sydney |
| 09:49:24 | watusimoto | great! |
| 09:49:36 | watusimoto | I ask because you really need to talk to raptor to address your problem |
| 09:49:48 | watusimoto | but he won't be oin for another 6 hours or so |
| 09:49:57 | Platskies | Ah ok, yeah he was here a few hours ago |
| 09:50:21 | watusimoto | he did the alure/modplug stuff, and he does a lot of our mac stuff |
| 09:50:38 | watusimoto | btw, why are you building yourself? |
| 09:51:00 | Platskies | To have the latest possible version |
| 09:51:12 | watusimoto | our latest version doesn't work :-) |
| 09:52:18 | Platskies | I kind of wanted it because raptor told me it would fix the Lua support, or something like that |
| 09:52:32 | watusimoto | that's what doesn't work!! |
| 09:52:47 | watusimoto | but maybe the version in hg does work |
| 09:52:56 | Platskies | Luckily he did build an app for me |
| 09:53:04 | Platskies | (which I have) |
| 09:53:12 | Platskies | I just wanted to try if I can do it myself |
| 09:53:21 | watusimoto | well, good |
| 09:53:27 | watusimoto | we like people to poke around |
| 09:58:48 | Platskies | Seems like a "libmodplug" exists… |
| 10:00:34 | Platskies | Installed that! Now |
| 10:09:50 | Platskies | Agh there's already a prebuilt version of libmodplug.framework in <bitfighter>/lib |
| 10:11:27 | Platskies | Oh, maybe the symbols are 32-bit only… |
| 10:16:14 | Platskies | I commented out the init_modplug call, now Info.plist and bitfighter.sh are missing - I replaced Info.plist with the existing Bitfighter-Info.plist |
| 10:16:23 | Platskies | can bitfighter.sh go? |
| 10:16:58 | watusimoto | you mean can you get rid of it? what's in it? |
| 10:17:01 | Platskies | doesn't seem to exist anywhere in the bitfighter folder |
| 10:17:29 | Platskies | Xcode tries to copy it to the Executables folder in the app bundle |
| 10:17:42 | Platskies | (i.e. Contents/MacOS I think) |
| 10:17:47 | watusimoto | I honestly don't know |
| 10:17:54 | watusimoto | I wish I did :-) |
| 10:18:12 | Platskies | Eh, I removed it |
| 10:20:39 | Platskies | Apparently DUMB can play modules according to ALURE's docs, btw |
| 10:21:20 | Platskies | so maybe I might have luck with the music :) |
| 10:50:01 | Platskies | OK… now apparently Zap::drawString and a bunch of other Zap:: namespaced symbols aren't defined |
| 10:51:00 | Platskies | drawString is declared in RenderUtils.h |
| 10:51:51 | Platskies | I can't find the implementation of it though…do you know if it already gets compiled? |
| 10:52:42 | Platskies | Oh wait, there is RenderUtils.cpp |
| 10:53:17 | Platskies | Xcode didn't search in there though |
| 10:54:19 | Platskies | OK, 50 to 2 linker errors :D |
| 10:54:43 | watusimoto | progress! |
| 10:55:08 | Platskies | Yay, built |
| 10:55:31 | Platskies | I had to add RenderUtils and MathUtils to be compiled… for some odd reason they weren't |
| 10:57:10 | Platskies | Also a Mac-specific debug cmd-line parameter got added |
| 10:57:42 | Platskies | the game didn't like it… |
| 10:57:59 | Platskies | So… it runs now! :) |
| 11:07:12 | Platskies | Mod music doesn't work though |
| 11:07:58 | watusimoto | excellent! |
| 11:08:05 | watusimoto | do any sounds work? |
| 11:08:11 | Platskies | Yeah |
| 11:08:32 | Platskies | the menu music works (though it's ogg) |
| 11:08:36 | watusimoto | ok, so it's probably that alure/libmod issue you mentioned |
| 11:09:06 | watusimoto | What did you have to do to build it? |
| 11:10:01 | Platskies | I made a list, just got 1 more thing to add tho |
| 11:13:01 | Platskies | OK here: http://pastie.org/private/q23ad2ax5ey3xyuy2knog |
| 11:13:22 | Platskies | I think that's it |
| 11:23:00 | Platskies | OK I gotta go - bye! |
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| 17:07:49 | raptor | buenos! |
| 17:08:03 | watusimoto | hello |
| 17:08:04 | bobdaduck | Goodmorning, gentleraptor. |
| 17:08:09 | raptor | hi hi |
| 17:08:17 | bobdaduck | And hey, haven't seen Yoshi around in a while. |
| 17:08:28 | raptor | i saw platskies has been playing with xcode4 |
| 17:08:35 | raptor | he needs to know 2 things: |
| 17:08:40 | watusimoto | yes -- he had some problems, mostly resolved |
| 17:08:46 | raptor | 1. pretend the old project doesn't work (and never did) |
| 17:09:20 | raptor | 2. *all* dependencies are already included in our repository |
| 17:10:56 | watusimoto | so was his problem that he upgraded to xcode4 and tried to rebuild an older project? |
| 17:11:17 | raptor | his problem was using an project that never worked (xcode4) |
| 17:11:27 | raptor | i think Little_Apple actually did most of it |
| 17:11:33 | raptor | but it was never completed |
| 17:11:35 | raptor | AND |
| 17:11:44 | raptor | we've since changed lots of resources |
| 17:11:48 | watusimoto | ah, I see... so we have a bad project in our repo |
| 17:11:49 | raptor | and dependencies |
| 17:11:55 | raptor | yes, old, unmaintained |
| 17:11:59 | raptor | work in progress |
| 17:12:01 | watusimoto | should we delete it? |
| 17:12:13 | raptor | no, because it should be completed for the furture |
| 17:12:16 | raptor | future |
| 17:12:22 | raptor | almost no one uses xcode 3 anymore |
| 17:12:27 | raptor | except me :) |
| 17:12:33 | raptor | and my VM |
| 17:12:35 | watusimoto | Maybe we can get platskies to do it :-) |
| 17:13:38 | raptor | sure |
| 17:15:10 | raptor | for the xcode 4 project, we should probably drop 32bit architectures: ppc, x86 |
| 17:15:24 | bobdaduck | What's xcode do? |
| 17:15:40 | raptor | xcode is to mac as visual studio is to windows |
| 17:16:37 | raptor | sorry, *OSX (they don't want to use 'Mac' anymore) |
| 17:16:44 | kaen | i.e. it keeps people from learning vim like they should? |
| 17:16:45 | kaen | ^^ |
| 17:17:00 | kaen | also, hello all. |
| 17:17:13 | bobdaduck | Hello |
| 17:17:25 | bobdaduck | Is 018a out yet? |
| 17:17:47 | raptor | hi kaen |
| 17:17:57 | watusimoto | hello everyone |
| 17:18:01 | kaen | bobdaduck, nope. |
| 17:18:01 | raptor | bobdaduck: getting close! |
| 17:18:05 | kaen | do we have a checklist? |
| 17:18:09 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 17:18:17 | watusimoto | running bug list == checklist |
| 17:18:22 | kaen | gotcha. |
| 17:18:29 | watusimoto | more or less |
| 17:18:31 | raptor | watusimoto: should we release with the current Lua stable but leaking? |
| 17:18:35 | bobdaduck | And just to bring this up again: Linking to social media from our main page? |
| 17:18:44 | kaen | wait, so is 14 blocking? |
| 17:18:45 | kaen | oh |
| 17:18:51 | kaen | raptor already asked that :P |
| 17:19:10 | watusimoto | raptor: I need to understand better the state of lua before I can weigh in |
| 17:19:25 | watusimoto | because I'm still a little confused |
| 17:19:35 | raptor | well, nothing crashes now, but we have a leak |
| 17:19:40 | raptor | which is better than 018 |
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| 17:19:52 | watusimoto | I think you should check in the no crashes but (might) leak so I can see what's happening |
| 17:19:57 | bobdaduck | Leak? |
| 17:19:58 | watusimoto | or at least what you've done |
| 17:20:03 | raptor | watusimoto: already done |
| 17:20:08 | watusimoto | bobdaduck: as in takes on water |
| 17:20:18 | raptor | dingy with a hole |
| 17:20:22 | watusimoto | run bf for a while, it starts to get heavy |
| 17:20:38 | bobdaduck | A memory leak? |
| 17:20:39 | watusimoto | some of the delicate innards get wet |
| 17:20:57 | YoshiSmb_ | hi |
| 17:20:58 | watusimoto | raptor: I'll look at that tonight then |
| 17:21:01 | kaen | spoils the many spices and rum in the cargo hold. |
| 17:21:04 | kaen | it's no good. |
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| 17:21:24 | raptor | watusimoto: just to reiterate: what is in our repo now is the non-crashy, leaky Lua |
| 17:21:30 | raptor | without the caching |
| 17:21:41 | watusimoto | ok, without cacheing |
| 17:21:44 | raptor | so it is 'stable' |
| 17:21:47 | watusimoto | ha |
| 17:21:52 | raptor | better than 018 |
| 17:21:59 | watusimoto | I would like to try putting caching back in |
| 17:22:09 | bobdaduck | ITS TOO DANGEROUS |
| 17:22:11 | bobdaduck | DON'T DO IT |
| 17:22:12 | raptor | if you apply my diff from last night (to add back the caching) |
| 17:22:17 | raptor | then we get crashy again |
| 17:22:36 | bobdaduck | What would caching potentially add to the game? |
| 17:22:43 | raptor | performance |
| 17:22:48 | watusimoto | consistency |
| 17:22:52 | YoshiSmb | PS: yea. i dint enter here or played bitfighter for a while. |
| 17:23:07 | bobdaduck | Welcome back then :) |
| 17:23:23 | watusimoto | raptor: what |
| 17:23:35 | raptor | ? |
| 17:23:38 | YoshiSmb | thank's bobdaduck. |
| 17:23:47 | watusimoto | raptor: what's in the repo contains some (but not all) of alex's latest upgrades, right? |
| 17:23:53 | raptor | no |
| 17:24:02 | YoshiSmb | my wireless network is getting fixed after some hour's ago |
| 17:24:10 | raptor | it is reverted to back before you applied any of his updates and before the caching |
| 17:24:18 | raptor | and it has just the _hold calls commented out |
| 17:24:23 | raptor | and thus no crashy |
| 17:24:38 | watusimoto | ok, it sounds like we've made less progress on this than I thought last night |
| 17:24:48 | YoshiSmb | but i need to check also the number's of ping's package to make sure it's alright |
| 17:25:16 | watusimoto | so the repo has 018 with commented _hold and no other changes |
| 17:25:25 | raptor | correct |
| 17:25:38 | watusimoto | ok, if we have to choose between leaks and crashes, I'll take leaks |
| 17:26:07 | watusimoto | hell, we don't even need the holds |
| 17:26:14 | watusimoto | we always want to hold |
| 17:26:17 | kaen | apparently. |
| 17:26:18 | raptor | and i found the issue is within the 'storage table logic' |
| 17:26:27 | watusimoto | so we don't need a table to store that info |
| 17:26:36 | raptor | that was moved out of _hold in this upstream revision: https://bitbucket.org/alexames/luawrapper/commits/4f2c238a8260639f02dc77e5b27a9f927b8c8230 |
| 17:27:52 | bobdaduck | Social media bitfighter? |
| 17:27:57 | watusimoto | can you apply that change and make hold work? |
| 17:28:09 | raptor | yes, but it still leaks |
| 17:28:13 | raptor | sorry |
| 17:28:15 | raptor | i mean |
| 17:28:33 | raptor | if i, make those changes to _hold but do NOT make the changes to _push, then yes _hold works |
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| 17:34:15 | watusimoto | ah, my head hurts |
| 17:34:18 | watusimoto | ok, here's my plan |
| 17:34:34 | watusimoto | I'm going to finish the bug fix I am working on (unrelated to lua) so I can get my code checked in |
| 17:34:40 | raptor | good |
| 17:34:54 | watusimoto | then I'm going to take another look at this lua stuff with the new info we may or may not have |
| 17:35:04 | watusimoto | and then I'll start drinking again |
| 17:35:08 | raptor | ha |
| 17:35:08 | watusimoto | how does that sound? |
| 17:35:11 | raptor | sounds fine! |
| 17:35:15 | watusimoto | ok |
| 17:35:22 | watusimoto | so bobdaduck what's all that yammering about? |
| 17:35:48 | YoshiSmb | he's afk |
| 17:36:18 | YoshiSmb | i called him using query |
| 17:36:31 | watusimoto | thx |
| 17:36:33 | YoshiSmb | but he's dint respond |
| 17:36:41 | YoshiSmb | np |
| 17:42:33 | raptor | watusimoto: I almost think we should just fix up the rest of the running list, do some play testing, and release with our leaky |
| 17:42:45 | watusimoto | maybe so |
| 17:42:52 | watusimoto | my work tonight is from the list |
| 17:43:00 | raptor | ok |
| 17:43:34 | raptor | i found another test case last night where we can get in an impossible unspawn delay situation |
| 17:43:47 | watusimoto | great |
| 17:44:00 | raptor | it's updated on the list |
| 17:45:58 | YoshiSmb | errr... watusimoto |
| 17:46:05 | YoshiSmb | can i ask something? |
| 17:46:16 | watusimoto | if it's quick |
| 17:46:36 | YoshiSmb | on mazerunner. there is a chance to use commander map to see the correct path |
| 17:46:56 | watusimoto | no -- to the game it's just walls |
| 17:46:57 | YoshiSmb | im thinking of making some map's doesn't allow a player use commander map. |
| 17:47:09 | watusimoto | oh, sorry, right |
| 17:47:17 | watusimoto | ok |
| 17:47:25 | watusimoto | we don't have a way to disable cmdr mp |
| 17:47:27 | watusimoto | map |
| 17:47:35 | watusimoto | and I don't think we should |
| 17:47:40 | YoshiSmb | and this maybe is a idea? |
| 17:47:43 | YoshiSmb | maybe |
| 17:48:22 | watusimoto | there is a hacky way to do it, which I do not support, but you can put a wall waaaaaaay far away, so when you go into cmdrs map, the maze is too small to see |
| 17:48:42 | watusimoto | but don't do that |
| 17:48:51 | watusimoto | it's mainly just annoying |
| 17:48:52 | YoshiSmb | ok |
| 17:49:32 | YoshiSmb | also. what happened to sam's server? |
| 17:49:49 | kaen | you'll have to ask sam :/ |
| 17:49:49 | raptor | ok, heading our for a bit, back later... then you can ask me all the Lua stuff again |
| 17:50:10 | YoshiSmb | ok. thank's. |
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| 17:59:02 | watusimoto | bye |
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| 18:09:14 | bobdaduck | Sorry back |
| 18:09:17 | bobdaduck | Was in a meeting |
| 18:09:40 | bobdaduck | I'm yammering about putting a link to the bitfighter facebook page and perhaps the twitter feed on the bitfighter homepage. |
| 18:10:02 | bobdaduck | There's a "bitfighter videos on youtube" section", so a "bitfighter on facebook" section wouldn't be too out of place |
| 18:10:24 | bobdaduck | On the facebook page I try to update people whenever there's a new version or a BBB or a level design contest and stuff. |
| 18:10:47 | bobdaduck | So it help keeps MIA players in the loop I think. |
| 18:20:08 | bobdaduck | That's @ Watusimoto_ |
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| 20:25:55 | raptor | we have to fix the level code bugs on the forums... more and more people are using pastie and 3rd party sites... |
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| 20:38:39 | bobdaduck | What causes level code to break? |
| 20:38:58 | raptor | it's a forum plugin of some sorts, i think Watusimoto put it there |
| 20:39:24 | raptor | there are two limits that make it break |
| 20:39:30 | Watusimoto | I didn't realize level code broke in the forums |
| 20:39:44 | raptor | it's always been broken since people have been posting large levels |
| 20:39:49 | raptor | for as long as i remember |
| 20:40:10 | raptor | bascially if you post above a certain charatcer limit, your code isn't shown |
| 20:40:23 | raptor | but it is still in the database so if you quote the post, it all shows up in the quote |
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| 20:40:41 | bobdaduck_ | Why do we even have limits in the level editor? |
| 20:40:42 | raptor | then there is some other max limit above that that refuses to be posted at all |
| 20:40:51 | bobdaduck_ | Speedzone max 5000 |
| 20:40:53 | bobdaduck_ | min 500 |
| 20:40:56 | bobdaduck_ | etc |
| 20:41:10 | bobdaduck_ | Max nexus score 20000 |
| 20:41:12 | raptor | bobdaduck_: why do I have a limit to how fast I can run? |
| 20:41:16 | raptor | oh |
| 20:41:19 | raptor | those are different |
| 20:41:30 | raptor | somewhat arbitrary to force better level design i think.. |
| 20:41:39 | bobdaduck_ | Yeah, not gonna happen. |
| 20:42:02 | bobdaduck_ | I mean, cores don't have a minimum health. |
| 20:42:12 | raptor | 1 |
| 20:42:18 | raptor | i think |
| 20:42:25 | bobdaduck_ | Well yes |
| 20:42:34 | bobdaduck_ | But speedzones don't go to 1 |
| 20:42:36 | bobdaduck_ | they stop at 500. |
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| 20:43:16 | Watusimoto | that limit might be a phpbb limit |
| 20:43:50 | Watusimoto | oh wait... I'm trying to think about what sorts of stuff I did when I set up phpbb |
| 20:44:00 | Watusimoto | I added the syntax colorer (geshi) |
| 20:44:05 | raptor | that's it! |
| 20:44:08 | raptor | geshi is failing |
| 20:44:12 | Watusimoto | I doubt it |
| 20:44:14 | Watusimoto | but |
| 20:44:17 | raptor | it has to be |
| 20:44:20 | Watusimoto | no |
| 20:44:31 | Watusimoto | I may also have added a special source code handling plugin |
| 20:44:35 | raptor | because people send me PMs without the code wrap that are HUGE |
| 20:44:43 | raptor | oh.. |
| 20:44:48 | raptor | i thought that was geshi |
| 20:44:56 | Watusimoto | geshi is only coloring |
| 20:45:59 | Watusimoto | ok, look at this post: |
| 20:45:59 | Watusimoto | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=1258&view=unread&sid=eced8bf9816e6e0dd0fb48b4d6798d28#unread |
| 20:46:22 | Watusimoto | see the little select all/expand post buttons in the UR of teh code window? |
| 20:46:28 | raptor | yes |
| 20:46:35 | Watusimoto | those are (if I recall) from a special code handling plugin |
| 20:46:41 | raptor | ahhh ok |
| 20:46:45 | Watusimoto | like those seen on some other websites |
| 20:46:48 | raptor | now i have them separated in my head.. |
| 20:46:51 | Watusimoto | so that might be the problem |
| 20:48:02 | Watusimoto | trying to ssh in and see what I can see |
| 20:48:55 | raptor | i see geshi in: /var/www/forums/includes |
| 20:49:20 | Watusimoto | geshi is almost certainly innocent; but also probably out-of-date |
| 20:49:29 | Watusimoto | many new keywords have been added since it was last updated |
| 20:49:38 | Watusimoto | hi :-) |
| 20:49:45 | raptor | :) |
| 20:49:54 | Watusimoto | where is phpbb? |
| 20:50:04 | raptor | here: /var/www/forums |
| 20:53:23 | raptor | ok, the code select is part of our style in styles/ca_black |
| 20:53:40 | raptor | i searched for 'ca_select_code' |
| 20:54:19 | raptor | specifically in: styles/ca_black/template/ca_scripts.js |
| 20:54:28 | raptor | and: styles/ca_black/template/bbcode.html |
| 20:55:12 | Watusimoto | I think you want code-select |
| 20:55:16 | Watusimoto | and code-expand |
| 20:57:40 | raptor | OK i was trying to post a new level and hit this: "Your message contains 129203 characters. The maximum number of allowed characters is 120000." |
| 20:57:53 | raptor | so that is one limit, but obviously with phpbb |
| 20:59:04 | Watusimoto | ok, well, I'm totally confused |
| 20:59:16 | raptor | take a looK here: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1809 |
| 20:59:19 | Watusimoto | I can find no traces of this plugin I've described |
| 20:59:25 | raptor | i posted a large levelgen code |
| 20:59:34 | Watusimoto | nada |
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| 20:59:41 | raptor | but quote me |
| 20:59:53 | raptor | reply, then quote my post |
| 21:00:02 | Watusimoto | lots of stuff |
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| 21:00:16 | raptor | yep |
| 21:00:29 | Watusimoto | but when I preview I get a "website not available" error |
| 21:00:30 | raptor | but the post is not showing client-side in the browser at all |
| 21:00:38 | Watusimoto | Error 101 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_RESET): The connection was reset. |
| 21:00:56 | raptor | uhh... maybe we just hit a server down time.. |
| 21:00:58 | Watusimoto | oh wait, maybe working now |
| 21:01:07 | Watusimoto | preview looks empty |
| 21:01:14 | raptor | correct |
| 21:01:22 | raptor | it's not even being transmitted from the server |
| 21:01:28 | raptor | so not a JS error |
| 21:01:34 | raptor | (phoew!) |
| 21:02:10 | Watusimoto | The content div is empty |
| 21:03:07 | raptor | yep, i captured it - only 22KB is returning |
| 21:03:12 | raptor | should be lots more |
| 21:03:17 | Watusimoto | ok, and on a normal post, the content div has the... content! |
| 21:05:17 | raptor | removing all cache ... |
| 21:05:44 | raptor | no phpbb errors.. |
| 21:05:48 | raptor | sorry |
| 21:05:53 | raptor | no php errors in the apache log |
| 21:07:32 | raptor | i posted again in that topic |
| 21:10:38 | raptor | i think it's geshi again |
| 21:14:58 | Watusimoto | you think geshi is overflowing somehow? |
| 21:15:13 | raptor | something like that, perhaps yes |
| 21:15:37 | raptor | did you add custom formatters to geshi? |
| 21:16:08 | Watusimoto | I hacked the lua one |
| 21:16:41 | raptor | last update in 2005?? |
| 21:16:47 | raptor | (looking for geshi updates) |
| 21:16:52 | Watusimoto | in /var/www/forums/includes/geshi is a lua.php and a lua_orig.php |
| 21:17:05 | raptor | ah |
| 21:17:09 | Watusimoto | I'm guessing that I modded lua.php |
| 21:17:16 | Watusimoto | by adding new keywords and such |
| 21:17:18 | raptor | also a levelcode.php |
| 21:18:10 | Watusimoto | ah, lua might be for bots |
| 21:18:33 | raptor | ok we're using 1.0.7.20 of geshi |
| 21:18:36 | Watusimoto | well, also note that geshi is used by the wiki |
| 21:18:41 | raptor | 1.0.8.11 is the latest |
| 21:18:45 | raptor | oh really? |
| 21:18:48 | Watusimoto | es |
| 21:18:50 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 21:18:51 | raptor | did you add that in separately? |
| 21:18:59 | Watusimoto | separately? |
| 21:19:05 | raptor | as a plugin |
| 21:19:09 | Watusimoto | I somehow hacked it so both use the same syntax file |
| 21:19:12 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 21:19:12 | raptor | to the wiki |
| 21:19:14 | raptor | ah ok |
| 21:19:39 | Watusimoto | maybe both use the same actual code with a link or something |
| 21:19:55 | Watusimoto | but as you can see, the syntax files have no length limitations |
| 21:20:39 | raptor | actually we're using geshi 1.0.7.22 in the wiki |
| 21:21:10 | raptor | yes, i'm not seeing anything with size limits |
| 21:26:38 | Watusimoto | so where do those expand view/select all buttons come from? |
| 21:26:58 | Watusimoto | from the styles, they look like native functionatliy |
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| 21:27:37 | raptor | ok |
| 21:27:39 | raptor | bbcode |
| 21:27:44 | raptor | is also being used |
| 21:29:01 | raptor | lots of keywords to search on: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/2snapshot19.png |
| 21:30:37 | raptor | i bet wrapping all the lines in the bbcode is making it a lot larger.. |
| 21:31:52 | Watusimoto | probably |
| 21:34:46 | Watusimoto | I'm afraid most of my recollection of exactly what I did is lost in the sands of time |
| 21:35:02 | Watusimoto | I remember it as beeing vaguely unpleasant though |
| 21:35:48 | Watusimoto | can you post your long level not wrapped in a code block and have it work? |
| 21:36:12 | raptor | yes, i already did: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1809 |
| 21:37:02 | Watusimoto | ok, so somethign about the code tag breaks it |
| 21:37:21 | Watusimoto | either by 1) making it too long somehow; or 2) via another mechanism |
| 21:39:15 | Watusimoto | you probably did this, but there is a variable "max_post_chars" set to 12000 |
| 21:39:25 | raptor | 120000 |
| 21:39:30 | raptor | yes, and i'm below it |
| 21:39:30 | Watusimoto | right, yes |
| 21:39:38 | raptor | but |
| 21:39:49 | raptor | maybe it's for two-way communication? |
| 21:40:12 | Watusimoto | yes, but if the code tag adds lots of stuff to the post or soemthing, maybe it blows over that limit somehow |
| 21:40:31 | Watusimoto | the key is to figure out where that's set, increase it, and see if that fixes anything |
| 21:40:38 | raptor | it would add a <span> for color on every line |
| 21:40:40 | raptor | at least |
| 21:46:27 | Watusimoto | I can't figure out where that 12xxx limit comes from... it must be set via the forum itself, as i didn't find it in any config files. But finding settings on the acp is such a hit-or-miss afair... |
| 21:48:03 | raptor | i wonder... |
| 21:48:15 | raptor | i'm looking at the source code for viewtopic.php: https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3/blob/develop/phpBB/viewtopic.php |
| 21:50:28 | raptor | i wonder what the database query for that first post is.. |
| 21:52:01 | raptor | ok, confirmed that all the styles are put into the database |
| 21:52:31 | raptor | look at what that third post turns into: http://pastie.org/6258615 |
| 21:54:24 | bobdaduck | I propose we re-implement cloning! |
| 21:54:41 | raptor | it is a MEDIUMTEXT field with max length about 16 million |
| 21:55:06 | raptor | so length should be OK |
| 21:55:20 | raptor | but, i'm not seeing my first post in the database at all |
| 21:55:51 | Watusimoto | ok, found the length setting |
| 21:55:58 | Watusimoto | what a mess these settings are |
| 21:56:38 | Watusimoto | wow |
| 21:56:51 | Watusimoto | I'm going to double the length and see what happens |
| 21:57:05 | raptor | let me know when so i can clear the cache |
| 21:57:23 | raptor | you'll have to clear the cache after every php change (or wait a day or so for the cache to go stale) |
| 21:57:30 | Watusimoto | go ahead. I set the limit to unlimited |
| 21:57:49 | Watusimoto | you are going to clear, or should I? |
| 21:57:53 | raptor | cleared |
| 21:57:58 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 21:58:05 | Watusimoto | the setting is under Posting tab, Post Settings |
| 21:58:07 | Watusimoto | btw |
| 21:58:59 | raptor | still no show |
| 21:59:24 | raptor | posted again at: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1809 |
| 21:59:26 | Watusimoto | try posting again |
| 21:59:28 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 21:59:40 | raptor | you should be able to quote me... |
| 21:59:46 | raptor | then remove the [quote] |
| 22:00:38 | Watusimoto | ok, I quoted, and it all posted |
| 22:00:58 | raptor | yes that still works |
| 22:01:05 | Watusimoto | but the [code] tags are still removing the code |
| 22:01:09 | raptor | yes |
| 22:01:26 | Watusimoto | did you say the code is not even in the database? |
| 22:01:44 | raptor | wait |
| 22:01:47 | raptor | found it in the dB |
| 22:01:57 | raptor | in bf_phpbb DB |
| 22:02:08 | raptor | SELECT * FROM `phpbb_posts` WHERE `topic_id` =1809 |
| 22:02:12 | raptor | shows all 5 |
| 22:02:32 | Watusimoto | so it's on the display end |
| 22:02:44 | raptor | yeah... looking at viewtopic.php |
| 22:03:15 | raptor | look here: https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3/blob/develop/phpBB/viewtopic.php#L945 |
| 22:04:15 | raptor | so that is where teh $sql is returned |
| 22:04:59 | raptor | goes to $post_list |
| 22:05:44 | Watusimoto | ok, so we are assuming that $result has good data and that it is lost later? |
| 22:05:48 | raptor | yes |
| 22:06:48 | raptor | it's in the 'post_text' field |
| 22:08:34 | raptor | look at 1408 |
| 22:08:45 | raptor | i wonder if that $message variable is correct there |
| 22:09:29 | Watusimoto | censor_text.... hmmm |
| 22:09:33 | Watusimoto | probably word filter and such |
| 22:09:43 | raptor | also right below it: $message = bbcode_nl2br($message); |
| 22:10:14 | Watusimoto | nl2br sounds like it's inserting <br.s |
| 22:10:18 | Watusimoto | <br>s |
| 22:10:34 | raptor | makes sense |
| 22:11:17 | Watusimoto | see the comment 1425 for line 1426 |
| 22:11:27 | Watusimoto | sorry 1424 |
| 22:11:30 | raptor | hahaha |
| 22:11:36 | Watusimoto | confirms censor text's function |
| 22:12:59 | Watusimoto | then it does some highlighting then it;s done |
| 22:13:15 | raptor | 1562 |
| 22:13:20 | raptor | it's added to a huge array |
| 22:13:24 | Watusimoto | and the highlighting is probably not even activated |
| 22:13:59 | Watusimoto | 1562 is probably adding the message to a list to be presented |
| 22:14:18 | Watusimoto | how can we dump variables in this thing? |
| 22:14:31 | Watusimoto | that's where I'd like to know if message is empty |
| 22:14:33 | raptor | watch the httpd logs and use 'print' |
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| 22:14:47 | raptor | ok, let me do taht.. |
| 22:15:59 | raptor | this is going to drive people crazy... |
| 22:16:33 | raptor | hahaha |
| 22:16:35 | raptor | now look: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1809 |
| 22:17:22 | raptor | message is already empty by the time we highlight |
| 22:17:26 | raptor | moving the print upwards... |
| 22:17:59 | Watusimoto | awesome! |
| 22:18:27 | raptor | empty before highlight... going upwards.. |
| 22:19:17 | raptor | upwards again... |
| 22:19:50 | raptor | ok, it's empty before censor_text |
| 22:20:25 | raptor | oh wait, that makes sense... |
| 22:21:03 | raptor | now look! |
| 22:21:36 | raptor | i printed $row['post_text'] |
| 22:21:40 | raptor | and it's there |
| 22:21:52 | raptor | on line 1406 |
| 22:23:11 | raptor | $message is good after censor_text |
| 22:23:34 | raptor | on 1409 |
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| 22:24:09 | raptor | Watusimoto: our culprit is line 1413 |
| 22:24:19 | Watusimoto | let's see.. |
| 22:24:39 | raptor | $message coming out of that bbcode_second_pass method is empty |
| 22:24:53 | Watusimoto | let's see what that one does |
| 22:27:01 | Watusimoto | ./includes/bbcode.php, line 51ish |
| 22:31:03 | Watusimoto | nothing obvious there, but I'm getting sleepy again |
| 22:31:07 | Watusimoto | so not thinking clearly |
| 22:31:10 | raptor | ok |
| 22:32:42 | Watusimoto | nothing obvious in google |
| 22:33:07 | raptor | soo print() messages there? (OK) |
| 22:33:32 | raptor | looks like someone has it open already... |
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| 22:36:45 | Watusimoto | that was me |
| 22:37:07 | raptor | do you mind if i start adding print statements? |
| 22:40:04 | Watusimoto | please do |
| 22:40:07 | raptor | oh man |
| 22:40:13 | raptor | it's in the search+replace loops |
| 22:40:28 | raptor | i wonder if there is a limit to using str_replace |
| 22:44:18 | raptor | here's our culprit: https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3/blob/develop/phpBB/includes/bbcode.php#L110 |
| 22:44:29 | raptor | $message going it is good, coming out is bad |
| 22:48:23 | Watusimoto | you mean like a php limitation??? |
| 22:48:29 | raptor | yep |
| 22:48:32 | raptor | looks liek it |
| 22:48:39 | Watusimoto | seems unlikely |
| 22:48:44 | raptor | yup |
| 22:49:20 | raptor | i wonder.. |
| 22:50:00 | Watusimoto | that line is inside a loop -- does it fail on the first pass? |
| 22:50:11 | raptor | each pass is per bbcode found |
| 22:50:39 | raptor | i printed @message right before it - it output in full |
| 22:50:44 | raptor | printed right after: empty |
| 22:52:33 | raptor | here is the search array that is performed on it: [0] => #\[code(?:=([a-z0-9_]+))?:28uweg44\](.*?)\[/code:28uweg44\]#ise |
| 22:53:02 | raptor | compared with one that works: [0] => #\[code(?:=([a-z0-9_]+))?:3j7tuo7b\](.*?)\[/code:3j7tuo7b\]#ise |
| 22:53:13 | raptor | identical except for the bbcode id |
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| 22:53:56 | Watusimoto | sorry my thinking is deteriorating... but... |
| 22:54:02 | raptor | Watusimoto: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.preg-replace.php#105122 |
| 22:54:09 | raptor | trying that lead |
| 22:54:26 | Watusimoto | if the search is done per bbcode, maybe the syntax coding adds extra bbcodes that basically overwhelm the system |
| 22:54:53 | Watusimoto | aaaaah.... you may be onto something! |
| 22:55:44 | Watusimoto | meanwhile, I'm going to restore the 120000 limit to avoid havine someone use all our disk with a super long message. since this is obviously not the issue |
| 22:55:53 | raptor | thanks! |
| 22:56:24 | Watusimoto | that's done |
| 22:56:48 | Watusimoto | naybe I should limit the number of smilies per post while i'm in here... maybe to 0 |
| 22:57:01 | raptor | haha |
| 22:57:06 | raptor | FIXED IT |
| 22:57:12 | raptor | go here: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1809 |
| 22:57:28 | Watusimoto | this just in: |
| 22:57:29 | Watusimoto | Bitfighter is NOW LIVE on Desura |
| 22:57:36 | raptor | i changed pcre.backtrack_limit to 10 milllion |
| 22:57:39 | Watusimoto | according to my email... not verified yet |
| 22:57:44 | raptor | and levelcode works! |
| 22:57:45 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 22:57:58 | Watusimoto | wonderful! |
| 22:58:06 | Watusimoto | so it wasn;t geshi!!!! |
| 22:58:41 | raptor | nope it was php |
| 22:58:43 | raptor | wow |
| 22:58:46 | raptor | what a dig |
| 22:58:58 | Watusimoto | http://www.desura.com/games/bitfighter |
| 22:59:52 | raptor | WOW! |
| 22:59:54 | raptor | we're live! |
| 23:02:14 | BlackBird_ | what now? |
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| 23:02:23 | raptor | maybe we'll get more users! |
| 23:02:43 | raptor | also Watusimoto, bobdaduck has been pressing to put the facebook link near the youtube link on the front page. are you OK with that? |
| 23:03:14 | Watusimoto | is he on? |
| 23:03:17 | Watusimoto | no |
| 23:03:19 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 23:03:27 | raptor | opinion? |
| 23:03:37 | Watusimoto | well, I admit to a certain (deliberate) ignornace over things facebooky |
| 23:03:47 | raptor | yes |
| 23:03:48 | Watusimoto | but I did look at our facebook page last night |
| 23:03:50 | raptor | me too |
| 23:03:57 | Watusimoto | and it seems kind of lame |
| 23:03:59 | raptor | he plans on keeping it only relevant events/updates |
| 23:04:08 | Watusimoto | what... 37 likes or something? |
| 23:04:09 | raptor | haha, that's facebook |
| 23:04:26 | Watusimoto | I mean justin beiber must have about 2B likes |
| 23:04:32 | Watusimoto | and we have 37? |
| 23:04:37 | Watusimoto | that just seems pathetic |
| 23:05:23 | Watusimoto | so my vote would be against; but that's not a veto |
| 23:05:26 | raptor | well, it's a way people use to get updates - that and twitter |
| 23:05:29 | Watusimoto | it's just a vote |
| 23:05:49 | raptor | i was wondering if we could hook into facebook/twitter just to post updates for those who follow social media more than the forums |
| 23:05:49 | Watusimoto | do we twitter? |
| 23:05:59 | raptor | sky_lark set up a twitter account a while ago.. |
| 23:06:15 | raptor | i wonder if we could direct feed from the forums to twitter/facebook... |
| 23:06:22 | Watusimoto | I did set up an account, long ago, with one of those share with social media button thingies |
| 23:06:45 | Watusimoto | if we did have a link to crapbook, maybe we'd get more likes |
| 23:07:03 | raptor | yeah like from friendface! |
| 23:07:06 | raptor | likes |
| 23:07:12 | Watusimoto | because then at least people would know we had a page |
| 23:07:23 | raptor | because likes are the way 'generation me' are active in our world |
| 23:07:35 | Watusimoto | maybe I could invest like $100 to buy some fake likes |
| 23:07:44 | raptor | i know there's a market for that.. |
| 23:07:45 | Watusimoto | generation preteen |
| 23:08:13 | raptor | i was so happy the day facebook went public |
| 23:08:20 | raptor | because it spelled its demise |
| 23:08:51 | raptor | which may be slow, admittedly.. |
| 23:08:52 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 23:09:05 | Watusimoto | ok, I'm changing my vote to neutral |
| 23:09:12 | raptor | heh |
| 23:09:18 | Watusimoto | but that's probably the best I can do at the moment |
| 23:09:27 | Watusimoto | what do you think? |
| 23:09:30 | raptor | well... |
| 23:09:52 | raptor | i'm against facebook, but not against keeping older players updated with it and twitter (which is what bobdaduck says will happen) |
| 23:10:12 | Watusimoto | against facebook or against using it as our tool? |
| 23:10:32 | raptor | against facebook (for my personal self) |
| 23:10:46 | Watusimoto | http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/05/1000-facebook-likes-cost-75/ |
| 23:10:49 | raptor | but as a tool for us, not as much.. *if* people are actually using it to see updates |
| 23:10:56 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 23:10:58 | raptor | haha! |
| 23:11:09 | Watusimoto | 1000 is a respectable number |
| 23:11:17 | raptor | only 75$ ! |
| 23:11:31 | raptor | that's like a couple weeks of PBJ sandwiches for my family! |
| 23:11:47 | Watusimoto | well, you can vote, and if we let bdd vote, we know what he would say... I wonder what kaen thinks |
| 23:12:19 | raptor | i think it would be OK if we can automate announcement sending to the site and be done with it |
| 23:12:44 | Watusimoto | we have a comment on desura! |
| 23:13:04 | raptor | bobdaducks! |
| 23:13:09 | Watusimoto | rats |
| 23:13:23 | Watusimoto | well, I'll take it |
| 23:13:27 | raptor | haha |
| 23:13:37 | raptor | ok, i'll talk to bobdaduck when he comes back |
| 23:13:40 | Watusimoto | trying to run bitfighter via desura |
| 23:14:32 | raptor | good test |
| 23:15:15 | Watusimoto | works fine |
| 23:15:17 | raptor | Lamp's avatar cracks me up... |
| 23:15:27 | raptor | because... it fits so perfectly how he posts |
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| 23:18:10 | bobdaduck | So if raptor gives me a custom distro that I'd rather use instead of stock 018 |
| 23:18:20 | bobdaduck | Can I just replace the .exe file? |
| 23:18:36 | raptor | yes |
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| 23:19:05 | raptor | for most cases |
| 23:19:34 | bobdaduck | I'm speaking of multiple point selecting and dragging in the editor |
| 23:20:14 | raptor | what do you want to do? |
| 23:20:30 | bobdaduck | Use it instead of stock 018. |
| 23:20:49 | raptor | you may replace teh EXE |
| 23:21:05 | bobdaduck | kay |
| 23:21:21 | bobdaduck | And: Social media bitfighter? |
| 23:21:32 | raptor | oh |
| 23:21:34 | raptor | so |
| 23:21:53 | raptor | would there actually be people using social media to keep up instead of the forums? |
| 23:22:32 | bobdaduck | Invader alex and Edshin have liked the facebook page but they're kind of MIA from the forums. |
| 23:23:23 | raptor | because |
| 23:23:38 | raptor | you'll probably be gone soon and none of us want to update the page BUT |
| 23:24:10 | raptor | if we can automate postings from the forums, that might be nice |
| 23:24:33 | bobdaduck | I have no idea how someone would do that. |
| 23:24:50 | bobdaduck | I can give Quartz admin of bittfighters facebook page if I leave though |
| 23:25:24 | bobdaduck | (also I'm probably not leaving until April at the earliest) |
| 23:25:32 | raptor | ok |
| 23:25:47 | raptor | well... Watusimoto is 'neutral' on adding the link to home page |
| 23:26:03 | Watusimoto | raptor talked me up from opposed |
| 23:26:07 | raptor | we can probably try it for a little while and see... isn't facebook dying? |
| 23:26:21 | Watusimoto | maybe this will hasten its demise |
| 23:26:26 | raptor | because i try to will its death every time i think about it |
| 23:26:31 | bobdaduck | I wish. No, facebook isn't dying. |
| 23:26:37 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 23:27:02 | Watusimoto | the picture on the bf fb page is terrible |
| 23:27:12 | Watusimoto | all jpeggy |
| 23:27:30 | bobdaduck | uh. |
| 23:27:34 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 23:28:05 | Watusimoto | raptor: want to announce your forums repair on the metaforum? |
| 23:28:11 | raptor | done :) |
| 23:28:18 | Watusimoto | tell folks it's safe to repost |
| 23:28:20 | Watusimoto | good |
| 23:28:25 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 23:28:29 | Watusimoto | always one step ahea |
| 23:28:29 | Watusimoto | d |
| 23:28:37 | raptor | brb |
| 23:28:44 | raptor | you need to commit! |
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| 23:43:12 | Watusimoto | not tonight... too much forums! |
| 23:45:24 | raptor | ok |
| 23:45:28 | raptor | sorry about that |
| 23:45:43 | raptor | but i doubt i could have solved it without some encouragement.. |
| 23:46:50 | raptor | Watusimoto: about your answer in the ship shapes thread: http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
