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| 00:00:28 | Watusimoto_ | where is that file? |
| 00:01:09 | raptor | huh? |
| 00:01:26 | Watusimoto_ | you said check the db in phpma |
| 00:01:28 | Watusimoto_ | oh |
| 00:01:29 | Watusimoto_ | wait |
| 00:01:32 | Watusimoto_ | sorry |
| 00:01:40 | Watusimoto_ | to do that we need to upgrade the master |
| 00:01:49 | raptor | want me to? |
| 00:01:54 | Watusimoto_ | sure |
| 00:02:22 | Watusimoto_ | yeah, that would be better :-) |
| 00:02:31 | raptor | udpating... |
| 00:03:19 | raptor | my english has been suffereing all day... |
| 00:05:43 | raptor | ok done |
| 00:05:46 | raptor | master restarted |
| 00:06:01 | Watusimoto_ | ok, thx |
| 00:06:41 | raptor | except |
| 00:06:46 | raptor | something's broken |
| 00:06:52 | Watusimoto_ | I just noticed that |
| 00:07:09 | Watusimoto_ | master is running? |
| 00:07:26 | raptor | it's up! |
| 00:07:36 | Watusimoto_ | ok |
| 00:07:36 | Watusimoto_ | good |
| 00:07:52 | raptor | now the real question is if normal 018 clients can save stats still... |
| 00:09:01 | raptor | it recorded! |
| 00:09:11 | raptor | (with my 018 client) |
| 00:09:16 | raptor | see: http://www.bitfighter.org/stats/gamereports.php |
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| 00:10:35 | SolumnMushroom | Hello all! |
| 00:10:38 | raptor | Database error accessing sqlite databse: table stats_player has no column named turret_kills |
| 00:10:47 | raptor | (when hosting from latest code) |
| 00:10:49 | raptor | hi SolumnMushroom |
| 00:10:53 | Watusimoto_ | your game is in the database |
| 00:11:18 | raptor | hooray! |
| 00:11:44 | Watusimoto_ | where do you see the database error? |
| 00:11:55 | raptor | hosting locally and writing to local sqlite |
| 00:12:14 | Watusimoto_ | ah, you need to rebuild your sqllite database |
| 00:12:34 | raptor | should that be an update task set in main() ? |
| 00:12:46 | raptor | nobody uses it though |
| 00:12:51 | raptor | (that I know of) |
| 00:13:02 | Watusimoto_ | not sure how to do that, but the code is here |
| 00:13:03 | Watusimoto_ | getSqliteSchema |
| 00:13:10 | Watusimoto_ | string DatabaseWriter::getSqliteSchema() { |
| 00:13:19 | Watusimoto_ | I updated it to include the new fields |
| 00:13:31 | Watusimoto_ | but don't know how to trigger it -- it may be a manual thing |
| 00:13:39 | raptor | ok |
| 00:13:41 | raptor | no worries... |
| 00:14:09 | Watusimoto_ | ah, just delete the database |
| 00:14:17 | Watusimoto_ | it gets recreated with the new schema automatically |
| 00:14:49 | Watusimoto_ | your client is writing some garbage to the db, so I need to fix that |
| 00:14:57 | Watusimoto_ | but that's mysql work, not bitfighter specific |
| 00:15:19 | raptor | ok |
| 00:15:23 | Watusimoto_ | I should haev left the default values of 0 in place :-( |
| 00:15:29 | raptor | yuk |
| 00:15:37 | Watusimoto_ | so it seems to work, at least nominally |
| 00:15:55 | Watusimoto_ | have to go through more scenarios to make sure engineer stuff is carrying through... but it should |
| 00:15:56 | raptor | i did two games: 1 with 018, 1 with the newest code |
| 00:16:05 | raptor | oh, i'll do that now |
| 00:16:19 | Watusimoto_ | did you engineer/kill turrets, ffs, or kill asteroids? |
| 00:16:26 | Watusimoto_ | those, along with distance, are the new things tracked |
| 00:17:15 | Watusimoto_ | I'm going to delete your game, if that;s ok. Or would you rather have me fix your garbaged stats? |
| 00:17:35 | raptor | delete |
| 00:17:41 | raptor | i'll test all those things now |
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| 00:19:51 | raptor | Database error accessing sqlite databse: table stats_player has no column named teleport_uses |
| 00:20:02 | raptor | ok, i just tested all of those things |
| 00:25:07 | Watusimoto_ | 27 asteroids? |
| 00:25:14 | raptor | 3 |
| 00:25:19 | Watusimoto_ | build 1 turret, 2 ffs? |
| 00:25:23 | raptor | yes |
| 00:25:34 | Watusimoto_ | 3 asteroids * children |
| 00:25:34 | raptor | wait |
| 00:25:44 | raptor | yes, maybe a turret got one or two |
| 00:25:46 | raptor | wait |
| 00:25:50 | raptor | 4 |
| 00:25:50 | raptor | 4 + children |
| 00:25:54 | raptor | 4*childs |
| 00:26:07 | raptor | built 1 teleport, too |
| 00:26:11 | raptor | destroyed them all |
| 00:26:13 | Watusimoto_ | 4 + 8 + 16? |
| 00:26:14 | raptor | bwahahaha |
| 00:26:30 | raptor | each asteroid gives 1 + 2 + 4 |
| 00:26:32 | raptor | so 7 |
| 00:26:36 | raptor | 4 * 7 = 28 |
| 00:26:41 | raptor | turret probably got one |
| 00:26:48 | Watusimoto_ | ok, good |
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| 00:29:27 | | BFLogBot Commit: ad7d9fd6fd95 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Reorder lines |
| 00:29:32 | Watusimoto_ | ok, so I don't want to start working on packaging tonight; it's 1:30 |
| 00:29:33 | duck_ | what'd I miss? |
| 00:29:45 | raptor | Watusimoto_: I can do it all |
| 00:29:46 | Watusimoto_ | you can either do it yourself, or we can do it tomorrow evening |
| 00:29:52 | raptor | if you think code is OK |
| 00:30:01 | raptor | hi duck_ |
| 00:30:02 | Watusimoto_ | I *think* it is |
| 00:30:24 | raptor | you can leave any further testing instructions |
| 00:30:31 | Watusimoto_ | I guess I want to wait for one more 018 game to get submitted to make sure I have the garbage issue resolved |
| 00:30:40 | raptor | and i'll do those, too - if you think something could use it |
| 00:30:55 | Watusimoto_ | there;s people playing now, so we should have an answer soon |
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| 00:31:37 | bobdaduck | If any one of us was a secret agent assasin, it would be koda. |
| 00:32:05 | Watusimoto_ | dang... there's still junk being written |
| 00:32:12 | Watusimoto_ | hence a bug |
| 00:32:29 | raptor | ok, just did a game |
| 00:32:32 | Watusimoto_ | looks like uninitialized values, but... I already checked that |
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| 00:33:03 | bobdaduck | HE'S BEEN FOUND OUT |
| 00:33:15 | Watusimoto_ | engineer 321730024 turrets? |
| 00:33:26 | raptor | i need to head home |
| 00:33:29 | Watusimoto_ | ok |
| 00:33:30 | raptor | yeah that's not right |
| 00:33:40 | raptor | leave any notes, requests, etc. in IRC |
| 00:33:46 | raptor | i bet kaen and I can get things sorted |
| 00:33:49 | Watusimoto_ | will do |
| 00:34:02 | Watusimoto_ | turrets and teleports engineered are bogus |
| 00:34:07 | Watusimoto_ | that's the only issue I see |
| 00:34:16 | raptor | i got an error: |
| 00:34:20 | raptor | Database error accessing sqlite databse: table stats_player has no column named teleport_uses |
| 00:34:32 | raptor | that was recreating the DB |
| 00:34:46 | Watusimoto_ | mmm |
| 00:34:53 | Watusimoto_ | I'll look at that too |
| 00:35:02 | raptor | ok, heading out |
| 00:35:03 | raptor | thanks! |
| 00:35:06 | Watusimoto_ | l8r |
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| 00:55:44 | Watusimoto_ | ok, I can't find the problme |
| 00:55:46 | Watusimoto_ | here it is |
| 00:56:26 | Watusimoto_ | when 018 clients register their stats, they are entering bogus values for turrets_engineered and teleports_engineered. The other stats are properly set to 0. |
| 00:57:00 | Watusimoto_ | the stats get written to the database here: |
| 00:57:13 | Watusimoto_ | static U64 insertStatsPlayer( |
| 00:57:40 | Watusimoto_ | the value that gets written for turrets_engineered is playerStats->turretsEngr |
| 00:57:59 | Watusimoto_ | playerStats->turretsEngr is passed via the versioned stats object from server to master |
| 00:58:35 | Watusimoto_ | actually it's not if the stats version == 2, which it does for 018 clients |
| 00:58:51 | Watusimoto_ | so playerStats->turretsEngr is never set, and relies on its default value |
| 00:59:20 | Watusimoto_ | The PlayerStats constructor sets turretsEngr to 0 |
| 00:59:50 | Watusimoto_ | so I am at a loss as to the origin of the bogus values |
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| 01:00:12 | Watusimoto_ | hey raptor: just entering some notes for you |
| 01:00:34 | raptor | hi ok |
| 01:00:57 | | BFLogBot Commit: 74cb0a1f8951 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix missing teleport_uses column in sqlite db |
| 01:00:59 | | BFLogBot Commit: 8e2f4e103ad5 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Whitespace |
| 01:01:13 | Watusimoto_ | this is probably a master problem, so it might not be a show stopper |
| 01:01:15 | raptor | i wonder if you've found a bug in TNL |
| 01:01:21 | Watusimoto_ | I doubt it |
| 01:01:24 | Watusimoto_ | but you never know |
| 01:01:43 | Watusimoto_ | I don;t think so |
| 01:01:54 | raptor | hmm |
| 01:02:01 | Watusimoto_ | WIth 018 clients, they never send teleports_engineered to the master |
| 01:02:07 | raptor | yes |
| 01:02:09 | Watusimoto_ | the master is just making that value up |
| 01:02:16 | raptor | and you have a versioned receipt of stats? |
| 01:02:23 | Watusimoto_ | yes |
| 01:02:36 | Watusimoto_ | (it would crash otherwise) |
| 01:03:04 | raptor | on a completely unrelated note, my wife just brought home a children's book by Al Yankovik |
| 01:03:07 | Watusimoto_ | it;s the vars turretsEngr and telEngr that are getting bogus values |
| 01:03:10 | Watusimoto_ | lovely |
| 01:03:15 | Watusimoto_ | not a fan |
| 01:03:16 | raptor | and it's actually charming |
| 01:03:19 | raptor | ha |
| 01:03:22 | Watusimoto_ | eat it, just eat it |
| 01:03:27 | raptor | hahaha |
| 01:03:39 | raptor | ok, i can take a look at those vars if you're about to drop off |
| 01:03:45 | raptor | probably master side.. |
| 01:03:47 | Watusimoto_ | indeed I am |
| 01:03:51 | raptor | actually |
| 01:03:56 | Watusimoto_ | which is why I'm probably missing someting obvious |
| 01:03:59 | raptor | i wonder if a recompile of master would fix it |
| 01:04:04 | Watusimoto_ | oh, might |
| 01:04:10 | Watusimoto_ | worth a try |
| 01:04:14 | raptor | trying... |
| 01:04:31 | Watusimoto_ | you can see the symptoms in the stats database, under those two columns |
| 01:04:35 | raptor | ok |
| 01:04:44 | Watusimoto_ | (noted above) |
| 01:04:58 | Watusimoto_ | they should have 0s when 018 clients play |
| 01:05:11 | raptor | ok restarted |
| 01:05:14 | raptor | (recompiled) |
| 01:05:29 | Watusimoto_ | do a quick test game with 018 |
| 01:05:42 | raptor | need to recompile on this compy |
| 01:07:05 | Watusimoto_ | just did a game |
| 01:08:21 | raptor | did a game |
| 01:08:27 | Watusimoto_ | nope, but the bogus values are completely different now |
| 01:08:34 | Watusimoto_ | looks like unitialized value somehow |
| 01:08:39 | raptor | so still a problem? |
| 01:08:44 | raptor | ok, i can track it down |
| 01:08:53 | raptor | hooray for valgrind! |
| 01:09:11 | Watusimoto_ | but you were running 018a |
| 01:09:16 | Watusimoto_ | so your stuff looks good |
| 01:09:18 | raptor | doh, oops |
| 01:09:22 | Watusimoto_ | only with 018 |
| 01:09:23 | Watusimoto_ | ok |
| 01:09:26 | Watusimoto_ | well, good night |
| 01:09:33 | Watusimoto_ | if we don;t get it tongight, we have tomorrow |
| 01:09:37 | Watusimoto_ | good luck! |
| 01:09:47 | raptor | ok, finished 018 game |
| 01:10:47 | raptor | all right i'll diagnose throughout the night... |
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| 01:34:46 | | BFLogBot Commit: 94652b04d24b | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Actually initialize statistics variables |
| 01:35:41 | Nothing_Much | does anybody here have an nvidia geforce GT 220? |
| 01:36:06 | raptor | mine is an NVS 3100 |
| 01:36:18 | Nothing_Much | ? |
| 01:36:24 | raptor | so no |
| 01:36:38 | Nothing_Much | oh a quadro |
| 01:36:45 | Nothing_Much | those are for workstations |
| 01:37:00 | Nothing_Much | but I'm still having lag issues for some reason |
| 01:37:05 | Nothing_Much | I'm in gnome-shell |
| 01:37:13 | raptor | same type? |
| 01:38:30 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 01:38:46 | raptor | :( |
| 01:39:35 | raptor | didn't you say it worked at one point? did you turn back on window compositing? |
| 01:40:04 | Nothing_Much | eh |
| 01:40:06 | Nothing_Much | thought it did |
| 01:40:09 | Nothing_Much | guess not |
| 01:40:22 | Nothing_Much | and I couldn't figure out how to get the compositing back on |
| 01:50:47 | raptor | kaen: i need to go again; watusimoto and I are going to release today or tomorrow (I can do the bundles tonight) |
| 01:51:07 | raptor | would you have any reservations? |
| 01:51:27 | raptor | or would you have some small tasks you'd like to complete? |
| 01:53:49 | bobdaduck | I'm not sure he's here... |
| 01:53:59 | bobdaduck | Hasn't said anything all day |
| 01:55:26 | | BFLogBot Commit: 113ce43604ef | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Add Google Code-In students to credits |
| 01:56:24 | raptor | ok, dinner, errands, homework, then release! |
| 01:56:30 | raptor | sooo back later |
| 02:01:26 | bobdaduck | glhf |
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| 03:43:09 | Nothing_Much | :( |
| 03:43:23 | Nothing_Much | the game's still lagg- is there a program on linux that can show the GPU usage? |
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| 03:55:13 | Nothing_Much | bah |
| 03:55:19 | Nothing_Much | Even my GPU's not being used much |
| 03:55:22 | Nothing_Much | What is going on? |
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| 04:32:58 | raptor | howdy folks |
| 04:44:30 | raptor | Nothing_Much: have you seen this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/211203/ubuntu-12-10-runs-terribly-slow-on-desktop |
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| 04:48:47 | raptor | ok |
| 04:48:50 | raptor | time to release |
| 04:48:52 | raptor | !release |
| 04:48:52 | BFLogBot | To release, follow the checklist: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_checklist |
| 04:48:56 | raptor | kaen: are you around? |
| 04:50:17 | raptor | OK IF NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING I"M GOING TO RELEASE NOW |
| 04:51:59 | bobdaduck | lawl |
| 04:52:00 | bobdaduck | HI |
| 04:52:07 | raptor | oh hi |
| 04:52:13 | raptor | are you here to stop me from releasing? |
| 04:52:35 | bobdaduck | No you just said say something |
| 04:52:37 | bobdaduck | so... hi |
| 04:53:50 | raptor | hi |
| 04:54:44 | bobdaduck | What did Lamp say about doogie and his friends...? |
| 05:06:28 | raptor | something i removed |
| 05:06:31 | raptor | :) |
| 05:06:40 | bobdaduck | Yeah I got that xD |
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| 05:35:08 | | BFLogBot Commit: 99fdb4904a20 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update version number for release |
| 05:35:09 | | BFLogBot Commit: ad9fcfa711cd | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Tag for release |
| 05:53:23 | raptor | calculus at 11pm is a bad idea |
| 05:56:11 | raptor | hi bobdaduck |
| 05:56:15 | raptor | could you do me a flavor? |
| 05:56:18 | bobdaduck | Uh |
| 05:56:21 | bobdaduck | In a minute or two? |
| 05:56:23 | bobdaduck | What's up? |
| 05:56:25 | raptor | sure |
| 05:57:06 | raptor | here is the windows release, when you get a moment, can you please test the installer and game real quick to make sure everything seems in order?: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/Bitfighter-Installer-018a.exe |
| 06:05:12 | bobdaduck | l |
| 06:05:13 | bobdaduck | k |
| 06:08:17 | bobdaduck | Everything seems to be in order |
| 06:09:33 | raptor | excellent, thanks |
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| 07:08:06 | raptor | OK all downloads are up on google code |
| 07:25:44 | raptor | ok, everyone should be getting update warnings soon... |
| 07:40:24 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 07:40:27 | bobdaduck | cool |
| 07:40:34 | raptor | man, it's late |
| 07:40:48 | raptor | i'm not going to post the changes until tomorrow... |
| 07:40:56 | raptor | i have 700 revisions to check through... |
| 07:51:47 | raptor | ZZZZZzzzz |
| 07:54:20 | | BFLogBot Commit: 510199204a80 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix CMake on bare-bones systems that can only compile dedicated |
| 08:03:19 | raptor | ok good night! |
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| 15:06:10 | raptor | buenos! |
| 15:17:15 | watusimoto | hey there |
| 15:17:19 | raptor | hi |
| 15:17:21 | watusimoto | I see you released! |
| 15:17:23 | watusimoto | great! |
| 15:17:25 | raptor | yes |
| 15:17:30 | raptor | there wasn't much else to do |
| 15:17:40 | watusimoto | my stupid programming bug |
| 15:17:43 | watusimoto | argh |
| 15:17:47 | raptor | heh |
| 15:17:49 | watusimoto | very embarassing |
| 15:17:51 | raptor | easy mistake at 1AM |
| 15:18:17 | raptor | actually I caught it when compiling the master again and there were all these 'unused variable' warnings |
| 15:18:21 | watusimoto | at least my diagnosis was correct (uninited var) |
| 15:18:49 | watusimoto | seen this? |
| 15:18:49 | watusimoto | http://xkcd.com/1047/ |
| 15:19:12 | raptor | I still need to go through all the revisions and make a list of the improvements / bugs for an announcement.. |
| 15:20:41 | raptor | ha |
| 15:21:05 | watusimoto | that's what tonight is for :-) |
| 15:24:09 | raptor | ha |
| 15:24:11 | raptor | " if you ever find yourself raising log(anything)^e or taking the pi-th root of anything, set down the marker and back away from the whiteboard; something has gone horribly wrong" |
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| 15:51:39 | raptor | ok, off to class... i'll start reading through revisions when I have the chance... |
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| 16:32:36 | raptor | ok watusimoto, i lied |
| 16:32:41 | raptor | i went through the revisions now |
| 16:32:45 | raptor | this is what I have: http://pastie.org/private/okirjdeue2du0nlva6w34g |
| 16:33:32 | raptor | feel free to add/remove things |
| 16:33:38 | raptor | we have a *lot* of bug fixes... |
| 16:33:43 | raptor | ok off to class! |
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| 16:42:34 | watusimoto | Looking at the code here: |
| 16:42:36 | watusimoto | svn co svn://svn.tuxfamily.org/svnroot/xmoto/svg2lvl/trunk/extensions |
| 16:42:52 | watusimoto | the concept of making a Bitfighter plugin for inksacape looks actually doable |
| 16:42:57 | watusimoto | that might be pretty cool! |
| 16:43:15 | watusimoto | that is a plugin for inkscape for creating xmoto levels |
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| 17:03:08 | bobdaduck | Why would we need that? |
| 17:04:27 | bobdaduck | Or.... Why would we want that? |
| 17:11:26 | watusimoto | which? the plugin? |
| 17:12:46 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 17:12:49 | bobdaduck | for inkscape |
| 17:17:40 | bobdaduck | What's the point? What does it add to the game? |
| 17:23:33 | watusimoto | more level design tools? |
| 17:24:28 | bobdaduck | If you draw a wall freehand, its not going to look as good as if you use our current system... |
| 17:24:54 | bobdaduck | I think we have plenty of level design tools. We don't use half of what we've got, and the half we do use is used poorly for the most part. |
| 17:24:55 | watusimoto | perhaps... though raptor created some levels that refute that point |
| 17:25:42 | bobdaduck | I disagree. |
| 17:27:33 | watusimoto | well, the reality is it will probably never happen... raptor and I have talked about this before, and now we have an example of how it might work |
| 17:29:48 | bobdaduck | I feel like the only person who could ever possibly use an inkscape plugin to make a level that's both beautiful and plays well would be Qui |
| 17:29:59 | bobdaduck | Who doesn't seem to exist anymore. |
| 17:30:43 | kaen | oh ye of little faith |
| 17:31:08 | bobdaduck | When was the last time you saw a beautiful level that played well? |
| 17:31:52 | kaen | it's hard to make beautiful levels |
| 17:31:58 | kaen | maybe if we had an inkscape plugin |
| 17:31:59 | kaen | ... |
| 17:32:14 | kaen | (see where I'm going with this?) |
| 17:32:28 | bobdaduck | Yeah |
| 17:32:46 | bobdaduck | Same place it always goes :/ |
| 17:32:59 | kaen | you conclude that because you've not seen one recently that it will never happen (again?) |
| 17:33:02 | kaen | which is patently absurd. |
| 17:33:12 | kaen | because you have no idea what creative people we might attract |
| 17:33:44 | bobdaduck | I didn't say its not going to happen again |
| 17:33:51 | kaen | sure but you implied it |
| 17:33:56 | bobdaduck | but I don't think inkscape is going to make it any more likely. |
| 17:34:03 | kaen | "only person who could ever possibly" |
| 17:34:10 | kaen | and then you invalidate that possibility |
| 17:34:16 | kaen | ergo, you see it as impossible |
| 17:34:40 | kaen | or perhaps you'll rephrase? |
| 17:34:47 | bobdaduck | Okay, I'll take that position then... Inkscape will add nothing to the game ever. |
| 17:35:26 | kaen | I'm more interested in the "no one will ever make a beautiful level that plays well" assertion |
| 17:35:50 | kaen | which is what prompted my entrant comment. |
| 17:36:19 | bobdaduck | Qui has made some really good looking levels that play really well |
| 17:36:32 | bobdaduck | I've not seen both of those combined in a long time. |
| 17:36:53 | kaen | sounds less ridiculous after you walk it back, see? |
| 17:37:18 | bobdaduck | Uh, kay. |
| 17:37:40 | bobdaduck | This imaginary user that we will somehow attract in the future who is a grandmaster of art and creativity |
| 17:37:41 | kaen | I'm just saying that you shouldn't dismiss the ability of an entire community like that |
| 17:37:58 | kaen | especially given that we've been growing recently |
| 17:38:01 | bobdaduck | Should we really be spending effort programming a tool for a hypothetical user? |
| 17:38:26 | kaen | is it ultimately your decision? |
| 17:38:34 | kaen | nope. |
| 17:38:49 | kaen | but the decision of the hypothetical programmer who would spend his hypothetical time |
| 17:39:54 | bobdaduck | Of course? |
| 17:40:14 | bobdaduck | I'm not making decisions, I'm trying to influence them. |
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| 18:48:32 | Watusimoto | kaen: I'm done with stats for a while... there are now 7 new columns -- ff/turrets/teleporters engineered, ff/turrets/asteroids killed, and distance-traveled. |
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| 19:36:10 | raptor | argh |
| 19:36:17 | raptor | found a mac bug |
| 19:36:32 | raptor | pulling the packages... |
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| 20:20:39 | | BFLogBot Commit: ee6c443a34d8 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix version.h parsing for OSX version detection. This fixes the broken game updates |
| 20:25:15 | raptor | our release page is getting longer... |
| 20:25:23 | raptor | kaen: were you fighting with bobdaduck? |
| 20:28:06 | kaen | I didn't mean to if I was :< |
| 20:28:28 | kaen | reading back I don't feel good about how I spoke. |
| 20:28:44 | raptor | it's the constraints of the medium |
| 20:29:20 | raptor | I sometimes think we'd all work much better together if we went mini-golfing together somewhere... |
| 20:29:29 | kaen | haha |
| 20:29:33 | raptor | or something.. :) |
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| 20:32:07 | kaen | so, lua points don't allow access of the x and y components? |
| 20:32:54 | kaen | I wrote an XY() function to get them using trig, but that's an interesting design decision |
| 20:41:48 | raptor | they do |
| 20:42:05 | raptor | local p = point.new(100,100) |
| 20:42:07 | raptor | p.x and p.y |
| 20:42:17 | raptor | or do you mean something else? |
| 20:42:31 | kaen | no that's what I mean |
| 20:42:37 | kaen | but p.x gives me nil |
| 20:42:46 | raptor | what? |
| 20:42:49 | | raptor goes to test |
| 20:43:11 | raptor | i just helped Little_Apple with a script that grabbed these... |
| 20:44:52 | kaen | okay then I must have been mistaken... |
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| 20:45:02 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 20:45:06 | Watusimoto | what's the mac bug? |
| 20:45:08 | raptor | well, there's a chance i broke something.. |
| 20:45:14 | raptor | hi |
| 20:45:37 | raptor | mac bug: changing preprocessor definitions in version.h broken my parsing script for the sparkle updater |
| 20:45:58 | Watusimoto | interesting. sounds easy to fix |
| 20:46:07 | raptor | so people thought they had version VERSION_018a instead of 6797 or whatever |
| 20:46:15 | Watusimoto | ha! |
| 20:46:20 | raptor | already fixed... |
| 20:46:25 | raptor | now to rrebuild and test.. |
| 20:47:00 | kaen | yep works fine... |
| 20:47:06 | Watusimoto | wait a minute... how did that even compile? |
| 20:47:40 | raptor | it compiles in c++ fine |
| 20:47:48 | Watusimoto | we do things like this: version = BUILD_VERSION; |
| 20:47:52 | Watusimoto | if that were a string... |
| 20:48:03 | raptor | afterwards, i parse the version.h with bash to automatically update a text file that sparkle uses for its config |
| 20:48:12 | raptor | so i don't have to manually do it every time |
| 20:48:14 | Watusimoto | oh wait, no it was probably ok |
| 20:48:16 | raptor | and that script broke |
| 20:48:19 | Watusimoto | ah |
| 20:48:21 | Watusimoto | I see |
| 20:48:41 | Watusimoto | #define BUILD_VERSION VERSION_018a works in c++ but not in the parser |
| 20:48:49 | raptor | yes |
| 20:49:21 | Watusimoto | maybe add a big comment there to avoid doing it again |
| 20:49:53 | Watusimoto | 6699 has a strange teleporty feel to it |
| 20:50:57 | raptor | haha |
| 20:51:06 | Watusimoto | I added a step 10 to our release checklist, and did it |
| 20:51:44 | Watusimoto | for the linux builds: |
| 20:51:44 | raptor | i'm thinking about retagging the release and pushing out new builds |
| 20:51:49 | raptor | ah yes, i saw taht |
| 20:51:51 | Watusimoto | sure whatever works |
| 20:52:14 | Watusimoto | you updated the build service? |
| 20:52:24 | Watusimoto | did you notify arch? |
| 20:52:25 | raptor | not yet, will do also |
| 20:52:28 | raptor | nope |
| 20:52:41 | raptor | man it was late.. |
| 20:52:44 | raptor | ok |
| 20:52:49 | raptor | relooking through the list |
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| 20:53:20 | raptor | ok, looks like #11, #14+ still need to do |
| 20:54:36 | Watusimoto | ok, I'm in the midst of and edit that might cause some renumbering... unfortuatnly I left the window open while we had dinner, and you've since updated the list, so I need to merge |
| 20:54:55 | raptor | oh oops |
| 20:54:57 | raptor | sorry |
| 20:56:06 | bobdaduck | I'm back from lunch now |
| 20:56:09 | Watusimoto | my fault, not yours |
| 20:56:19 | bobdaduck | Did I miss anything of great spiritual/emotional significance? |
| 20:56:35 | Watusimoto | ok, so you will take care of obs |
| 20:56:40 | Watusimoto | I'll do arch |
| 20:57:25 | raptor | yes, I'll get OBS |
| 20:57:39 | raptor | bobdaduck: any serious flaws with windows so far? |
| 20:57:55 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 20:58:00 | bobdaduck | Its inherently unstable and everyone is constantly frustrated with it. |
| 20:58:14 | Watusimoto | so... you are in process up reuploading the mac and linux packages? |
| 20:58:28 | raptor | mac is fixed! |
| 20:58:33 | raptor | Watusimoto: yes |
| 20:58:53 | raptor | i should re-tag... |
| 20:59:00 | raptor | do you mind? |
| 20:59:02 | Watusimoto | ok, I'll back off and wait a few minutes and see if things erappear |
| 20:59:05 | Watusimoto | no not at all |
| 20:59:14 | bobdaduck | 018a.b |
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| 21:02:06 | raptor | bobdaduck: seriously? |
| 21:02:35 | bobdaduck | And when you wipe your fingers on it it smudges and smears. |
| 21:05:20 | bobdaduck | I'm either doing something very right or very wrong when even I can't tell whether I'm serious or not. |
| 21:05:29 | raptor | ? |
| 21:05:33 | raptor | explain your self |
| 21:05:42 | bobdaduck | Well |
| 21:05:47 | bobdaduck | My dad was out dancing |
| 21:05:52 | raptor | i'm in the middle of release! |
| 21:05:52 | bobdaduck | and he sees my mom across the room |
| 21:06:05 | raptor | stop making me thing there's something HORRIBLY WRONG |
| 21:06:08 | raptor | *think |
| 21:06:11 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 21:06:12 | bobdaduck | sorry |
| 21:06:39 | raptor | :) |
| 21:06:56 | bobdaduck | No pressure! |
| 21:07:08 | bobdaduck | ...It might make the windows break. |
| 21:07:17 | raptor | i'l have to rebuild windows.. |
| 21:07:22 | | BFLogBot Commit: 32afcbe85225 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update version for retagging of release |
| 21:07:23 | | BFLogBot Commit: 39bad617db6e | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Added tag bitfighter-018a for changeset 32afcbe85225 |
| 21:08:16 | bobdaduck | You did forget to post a "018a released" announcement, but that's not a huge thing. |
| 21:11:27 | raptor | Watusimoto, kaen: here are my release notes for the announcements: http://pastie.org/private/okirjdeue2du0nlva6w34g |
| 21:11:38 | raptor | can you look them over, make adjustments, suggest changes, etc. ? |
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| 21:11:54 | raptor | I'm not sure what to pull out for headline changes other than MOUNTAINS OF BUGFIXES |
| 21:11:57 | Watusimoto | ok, will do. i assume you are aware the linux tarball is gone |
| 21:12:03 | raptor | i did it! |
| 21:12:05 | raptor | go me |
| 21:12:16 | raptor | putting it back right now in fact... |
| 21:12:31 | Watusimoto | ok good. trying not to nag! |
| 21:12:34 | raptor | there was a cmake build error i found in |
| 21:12:36 | raptor | it |
| 21:12:40 | raptor | that got fixed, too |
| 21:12:48 | Watusimoto | good |
| 21:14:46 | raptor | Watusimoto: archive is back up |
| 21:17:10 | Watusimoto | and the mac package is gone again!! |
| 21:17:18 | Watusimoto | sigh |
| 21:17:42 | raptor | yes, i'm putting it up now :) |
| 21:19:58 | Watusimoto | ok, I've updated the bitfighter.org static url copy |
| 21:20:09 | Watusimoto | and am sending a ping to the arch dude |
| 21:20:42 | Watusimoto | and am looking at your list |
| 21:21:26 | raptor | OK, both mac packages are back up |
| 21:21:28 | raptor | yay |
| 21:21:33 | raptor | now to sign them for Sparkle.. |
| 21:22:15 | Watusimoto | I made a few minor tweaks |
| 21:22:16 | Watusimoto | http://pastie.org/6362420 |
| 21:22:23 | Watusimoto | it's a rather uninspiring list, to be honest |
| 21:22:28 | Watusimoto | not much fun there |
| 21:22:31 | raptor | yeah :( |
| 21:22:59 | Watusimoto | Bitfighter -- putting the fun back in funeral! |
| 21:23:46 | bobdaduck | If you would just implement circles.... |
| 21:23:47 | bobdaduck | :P |
| 21:26:08 | raptor | there were even *more* fixes than in that list, but i was getting tired of enumerating them |
| 21:26:20 | raptor | (was looking desperately for new features..) |
| 21:26:23 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:26:27 | bobdaduck | uh |
| 21:26:32 | bobdaduck | did this bug get fixed? http://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1815&p=18500#p18500 |
| 21:31:22 | raptor | maybe... |
| 21:31:28 | raptor | 50/50 change |
| 21:31:35 | raptor | *chance |
| 21:31:41 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:31:41 | bobdaduck | k |
| 21:33:16 | raptor | we did fix the phantom FF problem |
| 21:33:22 | raptor | and I did fix a snapping issue |
| 21:34:13 | raptor | Watusimoto: rebuilding windows... |
| 21:34:22 | raptor | then i'll head to the OBS |
| 21:43:02 | raptor | Windows re-uploaded |
| 21:43:09 | raptor | ok on to OBS... |
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| 22:19:13 | raptor | idempotent! |
| 22:20:08 | bobdaduck | idempotency! |
| 22:28:00 | Watusimoto | raptor: did you do Update auto-update file? |
| 22:28:06 | Watusimoto | the new #14? |
| 22:28:21 | Watusimoto | i'll start on #15 |
| 22:28:23 | raptor | looking |
| 22:28:30 | raptor | yes |
| 22:28:33 | raptor | that is complete now |
| 22:28:56 | Watusimoto | we need to add desura the list |
| 22:28:58 | raptor | i did the downloads page part of #15 |
| 22:29:06 | raptor | i'm reading up on how to do desura.. |
| 22:29:14 | Watusimoto | I have totally forgotten! |
| 22:29:19 | raptor | not sure if we replace the old, or provide a patch!? |
| 22:29:34 | Watusimoto | I think you build a standalone, then bundle it with their majigger |
| 22:29:42 | raptor | OK |
| 22:29:48 | Watusimoto | our patch would just be a replacement... |
| 22:30:04 | Watusimoto | also, I think we should start publishing a standalone for windows |
| 22:30:05 | raptor | i'll do it for all the platforms, slowly... i'm testing the debian building right now |
| 22:30:13 | raptor | we do, i though |
| 22:30:14 | raptor | t |
| 22:30:31 | Watusimoto | if so, it should be on the google page |
| 22:30:35 | raptor | ohhh |
| 22:30:43 | raptor | that type of standalone (i thought you mean desura) |
| 22:31:08 | Watusimoto | well, actually, we'll need to build the standalone for desura, so we might as well post a copy while we're doing it |
| 22:31:20 | Watusimoto | but I think a portable windows build would be cool |
| 22:31:34 | raptor | yes.. so we can make it onto more school computers! |
| 22:31:40 | Watusimoto | bingo! |
| 22:33:06 | Watusimoto | if you are planning on doing the desura stuff, please add the details to the checklist |
| 22:33:28 | raptor | yes, i plan to |
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| 22:40:29 | Little_Apple | hello |
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| 22:43:00 | bobdaduck | jallo |
| 22:43:49 | raptor | hi |
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| 22:54:54 | Little_Apple | raptor: who runs the bitfighter twitter page? |
| 22:55:12 | raptor | bobdaduck |
| 22:55:17 | Little_Apple | ah |
| 22:55:22 | raptor | (I think) |
| 22:55:22 | bobdaduck | WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. |
| 22:55:26 | bobdaduck | PINGING ME LIKE THA- |
| 22:55:27 | raptor | maybe sky_lark? |
| 22:55:27 | bobdaduck | oh |
| 22:55:28 | bobdaduck | Yeah |
| 22:55:29 | bobdaduck | Its me. |
| 22:55:34 | bobdaduck | Sky handed it off to me. |
| 22:55:38 | raptor | brb |
| 22:55:41 | bobdaduck | I'm waiting for raptor to launch the announcement email |
| 22:56:02 | bobdaduck | and then I'll be all like "HEY SOCIAL MEDIA-ERS. 018A YALL DAWGS" |
| 22:56:44 | Little_Apple | blackbird was complaining about the profile picture and background. |
| 22:57:41 | bobdaduck | Why? |
| 22:57:58 | bobdaduck | Oh |
| 22:58:05 | bobdaduck | yeah twitter bitfighter's pic is kinda bad xD |
| 22:58:10 | bobdaduck | I'll update that when I get home |
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| 23:02:15 | raptor | Watusimoto_: are you doing the announcements? |
| 23:02:20 | Watusimoto_ | yes |
| 23:02:27 | Watusimoto_ | working on the website |
| 23:02:40 | Watusimoto_ | what is the name of the standalone file? |
| 23:02:44 | Watusimoto_ | standalone.ini? |
| 23:02:45 | raptor | standalone.txt |
| 23:02:48 | Watusimoto_ | ok |
| 23:02:51 | raptor | (for now) |
| 23:03:18 | raptor | the debian build is giving me grief |
| 23:04:20 | Watusimoto_ | the releases page is done, as is the historical releases page, as is the home page |
| 23:04:27 | raptor | oh yay! |
| 23:05:32 | Watusimoto_ | though it's a rather uninspiring announcement |
| 23:05:54 | raptor | yeah... but at least people wont crash as much now.. |
| 23:06:16 | Watusimoto_ | yes. that's always good |
| 23:07:17 | Watusimoto_ | Have you announced in the forums? |
| 23:07:29 | raptor | no |
| 23:07:34 | Watusimoto_ | ok, will do |
| 23:07:36 | raptor | working on Linux builds.. |
| 23:07:39 | raptor | great |
| 23:14:53 | Watusimoto_ | forms announcement done |
| 23:15:39 | raptor | hooray! |
| 23:20:09 | Watusimoto_ | do you know if we still have the mailing list software installed? |
| 23:20:18 | Watusimoto_ | it appears you can no longer sign up for the mailing list |
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| 23:21:32 | raptor | oh |
| 23:21:35 | raptor | uhh |
| 23:21:38 | raptor | that's my fault |
| 23:21:40 | raptor | let me fix... |
| 23:22:47 | raptor | ok, now try |
| 23:24:47 | Watusimoto_ | better! |
| 23:25:07 | raptor | i disabled it because I thought that it was the entry point for a lot of spam e-mail |
| 23:25:13 | raptor | turns out it was drupal... |
| 23:42:28 | raptor | i hate building debs |
| 23:42:34 | raptor | i'm on like trial run 9 |
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| 23:54:12 | Watusimoto_ | raptor: ok, I need to get to bed... early mornign tomorrow |
| 23:54:26 | raptor | OK, i do the rif raff |
| 23:54:33 | raptor | good night! |
| 23:54:43 | Watusimoto_ | I just sent out a message to the mailing list, completing step 17 |
| 23:55:18 | Watusimoto_ | I did not update luadocs/doxygen -- I will try to do that when I get back on Sunday |
| 23:55:27 | Watusimoto_ | (if I remember) |
| 23:55:45 | raptor | it's already up to date |
| 23:55:50 | raptor | I ran it this week sometime |
| 23:55:54 | Watusimoto_ | so all that;s left is the stuff you are working on and #18 |
| 23:56:01 | Watusimoto_ | surely not the luadoc script?? |
| 23:56:05 | raptor | but the doc itself might need some cleaning |
| 23:56:22 | raptor | yes, i ran that automated script i wrote for you to do the luadoc |
| 23:56:25 | Watusimoto_ | the luadocs are a mess, but getting better |
| 23:56:31 | Watusimoto_ | ok, grea, then that;s done |
| 23:59:45 | raptor | more cmake problems! |
| 23:59:47 | raptor | man |