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| 02:22:23 | raptor | hi sky_lark |
| 02:22:26 | raptor | look here: http://blink.ucsd.edu/technology/security/firewall/mac-snow.html#1.-Open-System-Preferences. |
| 02:22:28 | sky_lark | hey |
| 02:22:40 | raptor | #3 is what we want, but 1 and 2 get you there |
| 02:23:01 | sky_lark | ahh, I was looking under network |
| 02:23:25 | sky_lark | okay, so as a technical question |
| 02:23:29 | raptor | i don't remember if the firewall is default 'on', but I think so |
| 02:23:42 | sky_lark | I have no firewall. Why should turning on the firewall and creating an exception allow incoming connections? |
| 02:23:49 | sky_lark | no firewall on* |
| 02:23:57 | raptor | if you have no firewall, then good |
| 02:24:05 | raptor | that means it isn't your computer... |
| 02:24:30 | sky_lark | oh |
| 02:24:37 | sky_lark | that's good? ;) |
| 02:24:49 | raptor | well, it's one less problem.. :) |
| 02:24:52 | sky_lark | weirdly, footloose was able to connect but not anyone else |
| 02:24:53 | sky_lark | true |
| 02:25:18 | raptor | ok, in your router, how did you connect? |
| 02:25:23 | sky_lark | could it be that my router is not updated to the latest version? |
| 02:25:39 | raptor | nah, router updates usually don't affect something like this |
| 02:26:51 | raptor | tell me about your internet connection? what type? cable, fiber, etc. as well as how your computer connects to the gateway router |
| 02:27:06 | sky_lark | ok |
| 02:29:05 | sky_lark | ok |
| 02:29:30 | sky_lark | my internet connection itself is cable, I am running wifi |
| 02:29:39 | raptor | ah ha! |
| 02:29:52 | sky_lark | linksys router |
| 02:30:05 | sky_lark | erm, maybe not |
| 02:30:13 | sky_lark | netgear router |
| 02:30:17 | sky_lark | ah ha? |
| 02:30:32 | raptor | so one thing that routers do sometimes is disallow access to the wireless clients from the wired clients |
| 02:30:44 | raptor | also |
| 02:30:59 | raptor | you need to port forward to you local computer's IP, did you do that step? |
| 02:31:46 | sky_lark | yeah I think so, because it won't let me port forward to my external IP |
| 02:32:12 | raptor | yes, but you need to make sure it matches what your computer says you have |
| 02:32:28 | raptor | do you know how to check your computer's IP (I'm not sure how technical you are) |
| 02:33:17 | sky_lark | shit, I put .14 instead of .4 |
| 02:33:23 | raptor | ha! |
| 02:33:35 | sky_lark | I'll try that ;) |
| 02:33:46 | raptor | ok |
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| 03:04:58 | sky_lark | raptor, if you ever see this, I'm still a tad confused about the server process |
| 03:05:04 | raptor | hi |
| 03:05:07 | sky_lark | oh hi |
| 03:05:09 | raptor | ask your Qs :) |
| 03:05:30 | sky_lark | I put in an exception to my router to add a specific ip, it was like 192.xxx.1.4 |
| 03:05:39 | raptor | yes |
| 03:05:54 | sky_lark | thing is, when I restarted my router my computer's ip jumped to 192.xxx.1.8, yet it still worked |
| 03:06:02 | sky_lark | so my question is this: does the last digit really matter? |
| 03:06:05 | raptor | oh yes |
| 03:06:09 | raptor | it is very important |
| 03:06:19 | raptor | actually |
| 03:06:27 | sky_lark | I thought it might discern between multiple computers on the same network |
| 03:06:35 | raptor | nope |
| 03:06:39 | raptor | actually |
| 03:06:48 | raptor | we never did connect to you directly |
| 03:07:04 | raptor | i'm looking at my logs and it looks like it was still an 'arranged connection' |
| 03:07:12 | raptor | but for some reason it worked.. |
| 03:07:25 | sky_lark | that's odd |
| 03:07:36 | sky_lark | so next time we may have the same problem? |
| 03:07:50 | raptor | yes |
| 03:08:15 | sky_lark | lovely |
| 03:08:20 | raptor | ideally we'd not need to 'punch through' and use an arranged connection |
| 03:08:36 | raptor | but that means you'd need to get the IPs correct and the stars aligned :) |
| 03:08:41 | sky_lark | haha ok |
| 03:08:52 | sky_lark | thanks for your help again, and for educating me a little on network knowledge :) |
| 03:08:57 | raptor | sure |
| 03:09:00 | raptor | oh |
| 03:09:05 | raptor | when editing the bitfighter.ini |
| 03:09:10 | raptor | the game must be off |
| 03:09:14 | raptor | and not running |
| 03:09:24 | raptor | because it loads it and re-saves it when it quits |
| 03:10:01 | sky_lark | doh1 |
| 03:10:03 | sky_lark | doh! |
| 03:10:45 | raptor | yeah.... Windows provides some protection and doesn't let you edit an open file, but Mac/Linux doesn't so we wonder why our changes were lost.. |
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| 03:33:22 | Fordcars | Would we be able to connect to a Zap LAN network that would be port forwarded |
| 03:33:32 | Fordcars | ? |
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| 18:54:33 | raptor | hello |
| 18:55:05 | Flynnn | good morning |
| 18:55:10 | raptor | hello |
| 18:55:28 | Flynnn | greetings |
| 18:56:03 | Flynnn | lol poor attemmpt at a joke |
| 18:56:13 | raptor | we come in peace |
| 18:56:40 | Flynnn | we wish to commence with your earth ritual of "dance - eng" |
| 18:56:58 | raptor | haha |
| 18:57:09 | Flynnn | lol |
| 19:00:07 | Flynnn | raptor, are you into robotics, or any of that kind of stuff? |
| 19:00:30 | Flynnn | specifically things like facial recognition |
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| 19:34:26 | raptor | Flynnn, no; but I find it fascinating |
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| 19:46:45 | bobdaduck | Where's kaen been lately? |
| 19:49:10 | raptor | not sure - he shows up in the forums every once in a while.. |
| 19:49:42 | bobdaduck | Stuff with moving maybe? |
| 19:50:08 | raptor | oh yeah - he was in the middle of some problems |
| 19:50:14 | raptor | i bet that's where he is |
| 19:50:18 | raptor | (housing problems) |
| 19:57:45 | raptor | SDL ABI is locked for 2.0! |
| 20:00:01 | bobdaduck | I have no idea what that means! |
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| 20:27:53 | bobdaduck | who is flynn? |
| 20:58:40 | raptor | question |
| 20:59:02 | Flynnn | oh, missed your question, bobdaduck |
| 20:59:06 | raptor | when a level loads is there something other than a progress bar we should be showing? |
| 20:59:09 | Flynnn | I am, quite literally, nobody |
| 20:59:28 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 20:59:34 | bobdaduck | No a progress bar is fine. |
| 20:59:43 | bobdaduck | Our levels load too fast for anything else to be relevant. |
| 21:00:05 | bobdaduck | Why is nobody in our channel? |
| 21:00:08 | bobdaduck | Nothing and nobody |
| 21:00:12 | bobdaduck | ...Bitfighter. |
| 21:00:13 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 21:00:32 | Flynnn | because I'm secretly stalking your family |
| 21:00:52 | Flynnn | lol to answer seriously, I like bitfighter |
| 21:00:57 | Flynnn | and the development is interesting |
| 21:01:11 | Flynnn | and my IRC is set to load this channel automatically so whenever I do something else on irc, this opens |
| 21:01:20 | Flynnn | even though I frankly rarely do anything here |
| 21:02:31 | bobdaduck | I have only ever seen you here like once |
| 21:02:39 | bobdaduck | so... Was confusing. |
| 21:02:54 | Flynnn | I am not 100% sure |
| 21:03:00 | Flynnn | but I think we actually met ages ago |
| 21:04:16 | Flynnn | I like to program, so this channel interests me as it is generally about programming things |
| 21:04:45 | Flynnn | do you like robotics at all, bobdaduck? |
| 21:05:06 | bobdaduck | I was really into it when I was younger |
| 21:05:17 | Flynnn | ooh, what happened? |
| 21:05:18 | bobdaduck | Much more programming now |
| 21:05:28 | Flynnn | ahh I see |
| 21:05:32 | Flynnn | yeah, same here |
| 21:05:39 | Flynnn | I am very much into the robotics side of programming though |
| 21:05:40 | bobdaduck | Well, I built a robot that became self aware and started trying to take over my house |
| 21:05:44 | Flynnn | not that I am any good at it! |
| 21:05:49 | Flynnn | LOL at hte self aware |
| 21:05:54 | bobdaduck | I have a scar on my left hand from when it came at me with the kitchen knife |
| 21:06:01 | Flynnn | :( |
| 21:06:04 | bobdaduck | and another one on my right from when it jumped me |
| 21:06:08 | Flynnn | you hsould have programmed it to be purposefully clumbsy |
| 21:06:09 | bobdaduck | I was traumatized for life |
| 21:06:21 | bobdaduck | So now I'm not so into robotics anymore |
| 21:06:33 | Flynnn | gotcha |
| 21:06:58 | Flynnn | well if you ever find yourself contemplating self aware robotics again, there is this really interesting c++ library |
| 21:06:58 | bobdaduck | ...So yeah, nothing happened. I was like six and doing robotics was too hard for me at the time. So I just sort of dropped it. |
| 21:07:07 | Flynnn | oh I see |
| 21:07:26 | Flynnn | What kind of programming do you do nowadays? |
| 21:07:33 | bobdaduck | I don't |
| 21:07:49 | bobdaduck | I just graduated high school (well, like months and months ago but still) |
| 21:08:00 | Flynnn | Oh I see |
| 21:08:06 | Flynnn | well, surely you have a hobby then lol |
| 21:08:11 | Flynnn | what do you enjoy doing with your spare time? |
| 21:08:15 | bobdaduck | And now I'm working as a technical gruntworker in an education company |
| 21:08:37 | Flynnn | yikes :( What do they have you slaving at over there? |
| 21:08:51 | bobdaduck | Anything the programmers/IT/designers are too lazy to do but the warehouse workers aren't technical enough to do. |
| 21:08:52 | bobdaduck | :P |
| 21:09:06 | bobdaduck | I think our department is called "data entry" which isn't really accurate. |
| 21:09:13 | Flynnn | lol |
| 21:09:18 | Flynnn | data entry |
| 21:09:29 | Flynnn | I am honestly not sure what a true data entry department would even do |
| 21:09:35 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:09:39 | bobdaduck | Who knows! |
| 21:09:48 | Flynnn | haha! |
| 21:10:02 | bobdaduck | We work with HTML *sometimes* but that's about as much programming as we do... I haven't programmed anything in like a couple years |
| 21:10:05 | bobdaduck | Though I |
| 21:10:17 | bobdaduck | I've started doing a lot with our levelgens in bitfighter so that's something. |
| 21:10:27 | bobdaduck | ...Does Lua even count as programming? |
| 21:10:35 | Flynnn | I think so |
| 21:10:49 | Flynnn | in someways dealing with the worst language on the planet (my opinion) is even harder than normal programming |
| 21:11:05 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:11:06 | Flynnn | I mean why |
| 21:11:12 | Flynnn | why do they have to make nil not table storeable |
| 21:11:25 | Flynnn | the value nil is like demonspawn in that language |
| 21:11:32 | Flynnn | I have had so many problems |
| 21:11:33 | Flynnn | aroudn nil |
| 21:11:35 | Flynnn | demonspawn |
| 21:11:44 | Flynnn | But cool, levelgen! |
| 21:11:59 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 21:12:12 | Flynnn | So, is procedural gen something you like alot, or are you just doing bitfighter levelgen as a passtime |
| 21:12:13 | Flynnn | ? |
| 21:12:29 | bobdaduck | I haven't the slightest idea what you just said. |
| 21:12:49 | Flynnn | procedural gen is the fancy term for levelgen for other games xD |
| 21:12:52 | bobdaduck | ...Picture me as a raver who for some reason knows programming. |
| 21:13:15 | bobdaduck | If you use "dude" in your sentences, I'll understand you like twice as well. |
| 21:13:21 | Flynnn | gotcha, dude! |
| 21:13:22 | Flynnn | lol |
| 21:13:42 | Flynnn | but actually considering you've known programming since before/around the start of highschool |
| 21:13:55 | Flynnn | I would definitely count you as much more than a raver |
| 21:14:14 | bobdaduck | You haven't seen my map then. |
| 21:14:24 | Flynnn | is ist spazmodic mayhem? :D |
| 21:14:43 | bobdaduck | Lemee see if I have it with me... |
| 21:15:17 | bobdaduck | yep |
| 21:15:19 | bobdaduck | get on bitfighter |
| 21:15:25 | Flynnn | most excellent -- what version? |
| 21:15:27 | Flynnn | latest? |
| 21:15:37 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 21:15:55 | Flynnn | downloading 18a |
| 21:16:10 | Flynnn | oh cool, you guys are still doing universal builds, huh? |
| 21:16:39 | Flynnn | (er, universal mac I mean) |
| 21:16:46 | Flynnn | sorry I have the tendency to assume that everyone uses my type of computer |
| 21:16:48 | bobdaduck | Uh? |
| 21:17:09 | Flynnn | latest version of my operating system doesn't support universals |
| 21:17:19 | Flynnn | so I think it's cool that bitfighter is keeping backwards compatibility |
| 21:17:49 | Flynnn | (I may be wrong about the universal compatibility, though.. not really sure actually, I know there is a certain kidn that stopped working) |
| 21:17:58 | Flynnn | ignore me! I am babbling rambookey! |
| 21:18:05 | Flynnn | whatever the hell rambookey is |
| 21:18:22 | Flynnn | music! |
| 21:18:27 | Flynnn | that's new |
| 21:18:54 | bobdaduck | Okay so here's your music playlist |
| 21:18:57 | bobdaduck | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwzRLgJorYQ&list=PLYA-_I5Ag_cTFm8FBXHlgWTsQOilpQwVj |
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| 21:32:09 | Flynnn | Fun playign with you! |
| 21:32:19 | Flynnn | I miss how you could grab the soccer ball lol |
| 21:32:19 | raptor | i have a patch for watusimoto if he shows up |
| 21:32:36 | bobdaduck | What's it do raptor? |
| 21:32:44 | koda | I like patches |
| 21:32:56 | raptor | when you get killed while typing |
| 21:33:07 | raptor | a black screen pops up and disturbs the game-flow |
| 21:33:19 | raptor | this make it so you still see the level |
| 21:33:40 | raptor | but you still see the 'press any key to continue' |
| 21:33:51 | bobdaduck | I like that idea. |
| 21:34:05 | raptor | however, you only see the walls and things - other ships disappear |
| 21:34:32 | raptor | so its not an observer mode |
| 21:35:08 | raptor | it was invader alex's main criticism that you get penalized with a big black screen for typing and then you're killed |
| 21:38:21 | bobdaduck | Holding control and alt at the same time works the same as the shift key... |
| 21:38:35 | bobdaduck | I didn't know that. |
| 21:38:47 | raptor | in what? |
| 21:39:01 | bobdaduck | windows |
| 21:39:05 | bobdaduck | Always windows. |
| 21:39:18 | bobdaduck | put it in my !bobdaduck: USES WINDOWS. |
| 21:39:43 | Flynnn | !bobduck |
| 21:39:44 | Flynnn | lol |
| 21:39:50 | bobdaduck | !bobdaduck |
| 21:39:52 | BFLogBot | Level 3 programmer/priest/beta tester/mad scientist |
| 21:39:52 | Flynnn | oh wow I even mistyped your name |
| 21:39:54 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:40:05 | Flynnn | haha priest |
| 21:40:12 | Flynnn | !god |
| 21:40:12 | bobdaduck | ...Because I resurrect levels. |
| 21:40:17 | Flynnn | haha |
| 21:40:22 | Flynnn | !god |
| 21:40:24 | Flynnn | well |
| 21:40:29 | Flynnn | that;s unfortunate |
| 21:40:30 | bobdaduck | We don't have very many there. |
| 21:40:45 | bobdaduck | I usually play rogue because priest IS A BORING ROLE. |
| 21:40:53 | Flynnn | lol |
| 21:42:42 | raptor | heal heal heal banish heal heal |
| 21:42:55 | bobdaduck | Something like that. |
| 21:43:08 | bobdaduck | But rogues get to use TRICKERY and MINDGAMES and can STEAL STUFF. |
| 21:43:33 | Flynnn | this game you are speaking about sounds fun |
| 21:43:35 | Flynnn | but I will be honest |
| 21:43:42 | Flynnn | I have no idea what game you are talking about |
| 21:43:47 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 21:43:54 | bobdaduck | We're not talking about a game |
| 21:44:02 | Flynnn | oh xD |
| 21:44:04 | bobdaduck | Well, raptor is thinking of one |
| 21:44:13 | Flynnn | THIS IS NOT A GAME |
| 21:44:16 | bobdaduck | but mostly just D&D classes in a general sense |
| 21:44:23 | bobdaduck | THIS IS A GAME. |
| 21:44:26 | bobdaduck | And I'm winning. |
| 21:44:28 | Flynnn | oooh DND! |
| 21:44:38 | bobdaduck | Or any other generic RPG game. |
| 21:44:40 | Flynnn | I have playedo ne game of dnd in my entire life |
| 21:44:42 | Flynnn | and I loved it |
| 21:44:50 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 21:44:54 | bobdaduck | Same. |
| 21:44:57 | Flynnn | haha |
| 21:45:06 | bobdaduck | Except I pissed off the GM so bad he sent every monster in the game after us. |
| 21:45:10 | bobdaduck | BUT WE ESCAPED ANYWAY. |
| 21:45:12 | Flynnn | ._. |
| 21:45:22 | Flynnn | what did you do to pissh im off? |
| 21:45:47 | bobdaduck | I don't remember |
| 21:45:54 | Flynnn | lol |
| 21:45:59 | bobdaduck | I think I started a barfight in a bar we were supposed to obtain vital information from |
| 21:46:07 | bobdaduck | And I stole and drank ALL THE BERR. |
| 21:46:12 | bobdaduck | ~beer |
| 21:46:16 | Flynnn | haha |
| 21:46:24 | bobdaduck | Also generally making fun of every NPC I saw. |
| 21:46:32 | Flynnn | lol |
| 21:46:37 | bobdaduck | ...I was like 12 and I was pretty obnoxious. |
| 21:47:08 | bobdaduck | I think I'm still pretty obnoxious. |
| 21:47:17 | bobdaduck | but a CONTROLLED obnoxious. |
| 21:47:20 | Flynnn | haha |
| 21:47:49 | Flynnn | you walk down the LEFT side of the sairs! 0_0 |
| 21:47:56 | Flynnn | when no one else is on the stairs |
| 21:48:43 | Flynnn | sometimes i wonder if the things that I say realy ever make sense to anyone but myself |
| 21:48:54 | bobdaduck | Same |
| 21:48:58 | bobdaduck | Except I don't bother to wonder |
| 21:49:00 | bobdaduck | I KNOW. |
| 21:49:08 | Flynnn | xD I understand you pretty well! |
| 21:49:20 | Flynnn | brb |
| 21:49:27 | bobdaduck | I'm heading out |
| 21:49:31 | bobdaduck | Back in 20ish |
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