#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2013-07-17

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09:33:40 raptor buenos!
09:54:39 raptor no matter what I try, I cannot get the non-static methods in LuaScriptRunner (that I'm creating) to be registered properly with LuaW
09:55:28 watusimoto hi
09:55:44 raptor the closest i've gotten is gotten it registered, compiled, and running; however the 'bf' object (which is what i set it to) is a table instead of an object
09:55:45 raptor hi
09:55:55 raptor and the table is identical to what the metatable should be
09:56:50 watusimoto meaning... what?  that push is not pushing the object, but somehow is pushing the object's metatable?
09:57:03 raptor seems like it yes
09:57:08 watusimoto that is very odd
09:57:13 raptor or
09:57:26 raptor the 'bf' object itself is just the metatable
09:58:12 watusimoto I presume you registered and structured the non-static methods identically to the way they are handled elsewhere...
09:58:24 raptor yep
09:58:38 raptor I've even tried to do everything manually instead of doing the macros...
09:58:47 raptor it's probably something really stupid
10:02:16 raptor I think it might have something to do with never having a standalone instance of LuaScriptRunner...
10:03:53 raptor we do with LuaLevelgenerator, EditorPlugin, Robot...
10:16:29 watusimoto maybe you can send me a patchfile tonight, and I can step through the registration in the debugger
10:16:49 raptor our registration system is complex...  but really neat!
10:17:01 watusimoto You mean the self-registration?
10:17:06 raptor yes
10:17:13 watusimoto yes, I think so too!  :-)
10:23:59 raptor huh...  it compiled!
10:26:33 raptor it worked!
10:26:51 raptor i don't know if what I did was good, though...
10:29:35 raptor watusimoto: what is the variable:  static const char *luaClassName;
10:29:40 raptor supposed to represent?
10:30:05 raptor for instance, in the case of LuaLevelGenerator, should it be  'LuaLevelGenerator' or should it be 'levelgen' ?
10:32:02 watusimoto I *think* it represents what the class is called from the Lua POV.  In this case, I think LuaLevelGenerator.  I *think* in one of the lua config files we define levelgen as an instance of LuaLevelGenerator
10:35:03 raptor hmmm
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11:22:34 thread_ raptor: I have one more entry for you. I will send it when I get a chance
11:23:00 raptor hooray!
11:23:07 raptor and hello thread_
11:23:47 thread_ raptor: lol, I thinks its so funny that IRC tacks a '_' after my name. I guess thread is reserved
11:23:56 raptor do  /whois thread
11:24:17 raptor you can get registered names, but as soon as the owner of the name comes online, you get kicked
11:24:45 raptor the real 'thread' is a canadian!
11:24:50 thread_ :)
11:24:55 thread_ ah well
11:25:25 raptor actually, it may not be registered...  just someone got it before you today
11:26:47 thread_ its been consistently giving me the underscore so I would think it is
11:26:54 thread_ registered I men
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11:34:50 bobdaduck I don't think it would care if you choose an unregistered nick if the person isn't in the channel
11:34:52 watusimoto hee hee
11:35:10 bobdaduck right!
11:35:31 watusimoto as long as the person isn't on the server, actually
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11:36:56 bobdaduck yeah
11:37:13 bobdaduck no wait
11:37:35 bobdaduck like if you join like, #whatevernotblah and change your nick to bobdaduck, I bet it would let you
11:37:40 raptor no
11:37:59 raptor it says:  [Nick] Nickname already in use, try a different one.
11:38:06 bobdaduck ...huh.
11:38:15 raptor it's at the server level
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11:38:24 raptor that's why thread_ cannot use 'thread'
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11:39:05 bobdaduck huh.
11:43:06 thread_ Not surprising. the word thread does have many significant meanings in computers and code
11:43:29 raptor so the real question is:  are you thread-safe?
11:43:48 thread_ ...maybe? *maliciousness*
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12:37:05 raptor hi Watusimoto
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13:03:37 Watusimoto hi
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13:11:09 Watusimoto hi
13:32:43 raptor hi Little_Apple
13:38:34 raptor hi Watusimoto
13:38:40 raptor (sorry in a bunch of meetings)
13:38:57 raptor question:  in  LuaLevelGenerator::prepareEnvironment()
13:39:26 raptor does this line:  setSelf(L, this, "levelgen");
13:39:49 raptor need to come after loadAndRunGlobalFunction()
13:39:55 raptor or can it go before?
13:40:35 raptor because since it's afterwards, the 'levelgen' identifier is not available from within the lua_helper_scripts.lua file
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15:03:15 Watusimoto_ hi again
15:03:29 Watusimoto_ so
15:03:34 Watusimoto_ setSelt...
15:04:21 raptor setSelf
15:04:23 raptor yes
15:04:49 Watusimoto_ ok, guessing a bit here, but I think it comes after because the stuff above could fail
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15:06:10 Watusimoto_ on the other hand, if anything fails, the function returns false
15:06:31 raptor you ping timed out in between  your messages
15:06:38 raptor so i'm not sure what i've missed...
15:07:04 raptor Little_Apple: I posted an answer to you in a PM
15:07:08 Watusimoto_ >>> ok, guessing a bit here, but I think it comes after because the stuff above could fail
15:07:16 raptor ah ok
15:07:23 Watusimoto_ and all that cascades to cause runScript to fail
15:08:22 Watusimoto_ and if that fails, it basically throws up an error message and goes away
15:08:38 Watusimoto_ in which case, it probably doesn't matter what value levelgen has
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15:08:52 Watusimoto_ so it *probably* does not matter
15:09:58 Watusimoto_ why?
15:16:17 raptor because if i want to map  levelgen:findObjectById() to bf:findObjectById() (the global-ish one) i need the 'levelgen' object available in the .lua file...
15:17:41 Watusimoto_ ah, I see
15:18:40 Watusimoto_ so what did we decide?  we'd have a bf namespace, and also methods on the levelgen object?
15:19:26 raptor yes
15:19:37 raptor so it would be 'natural' to still call levelgen:find...
15:20:00 Watusimoto_ because findobject doesn't really feel like a levelgenish thing
15:20:21 Watusimoto_ just throwing this idea out there... we could move all levelgen methods to the bf namespace
15:20:24 raptor it's more of a global action, i think...
15:20:30 Watusimoto_ I concr
15:20:52 Watusimoto_ (saving some wear and tear on my U key)
15:20:59 raptor haha
15:23:17 Watusimoto_ so yes, you can set the variable first
15:23:50 Watusimoto_ if we deem it necessariy that levelgen remain unset in case of failure, we could unset it if things go wrong.  But I think that is not necessary
15:25:43 raptor ok
15:26:01 raptor I have one more complicated question regarding setSelf which I will ask in a few minutes...
15:26:08 raptor as soon as I gather my thoughts
15:28:38 Watusimoto_ ok!
15:50:39 raptor ok
15:50:53 raptor in LuaScriptRunner::prepareEnvironment()
15:50:57 raptor the parent class
16:01:11 raptor I use setSelf() like this:
16:01:19 raptor setSelf(L, static_cast<LuaScriptRunner*>(this), "bf");
16:01:25 raptor because it is called from child classes
16:02:27 Watusimoto_ which sets the lua var bf to point to "this"
16:03:27 raptor yes
16:03:33 raptor but only the LuaScriptRunner part
16:03:42 raptor which is why i static_cast
16:05:56 Watusimoto_ what do you mean by "only the LuaScriptRunner part"?  You mean you want bf to point to a LSR object, not an instance of the parent class?
16:06:20 Watusimoto_ thus obscuring any methods/vars on the parent
16:07:01 raptor no
16:07:33 raptor so when we create the object LuaLevelGenerator, it calls Parent (LuaScriptRunner) ::prepareEnvironment
16:08:07 raptor i mean, in its prepareEnvironment() (in LLG) it calls the parent prepareEnvironment() (in LSR)
16:08:16 raptor in LLG, it calls setSelf
16:08:23 raptor and in LSR, it calls setSelf
16:08:46 raptor but I needed to do the static cast so it would only add the 'bf' stuff to the parent class
16:11:31 raptor my question to you is:  was this OK?
16:11:48 raptor (sorry, I have like 3 work fires i'm trying to put out...)
16:12:12 Watusimoto_ short answer is I'm not sure why it wouldn't be... does it work?
16:12:24 raptor it works!
16:12:25 Watusimoto_ (and feel free to attend to your... you know... paying job!)
16:12:31 raptor it just seems...  complicated...
16:12:39 raptor I should make be long notes
16:12:41 Watusimoto_ then it's Ok!  :-)
16:12:45 raptor *big long
16:13:43 Watusimoto_ I'll admint I don't fully understand the question, but... are we calling setSelf twice?
16:17:46 Watusimoto_ can I see this logic in the current codebase?
16:21:06 Watusimoto_ (or do I need your mods?)
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16:24:30 raptor let me get you a diff
16:24:40 raptor yes, setSelf twice...
16:26:39 Watusimoto_ ok.  That sounds suboptimal
16:29:02 raptor well, I was unable to register the 'bf' classes without doing it there..
16:29:21 raptor here's my diff:  http://sam6.25u.com/upload/lua_global_methods.diff
16:29:49 Watusimoto_ btw, is this text good for first time running the game?
16:29:50 raptor the setSelf() in LSR is what fixed my earlier issue of having the object as a table
16:29:50 Watusimoto_ http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1611/14ue.png
16:33:16 Watusimoto_ I've decided it is not good
16:33:57 raptor hmm...
16:34:01 raptor seems somewhat OK
16:34:11 Watusimoto_ I think the idea is ok, but the implementation is not
16:34:22 Watusimoto_ Maybe hiding the password fields on the first run?
16:34:51 Watusimoto_ f you enter a reserved nick (like you've already played before) maybe then show the field after you get a log in error
16:34:56 raptor or add empty field text
16:35:09 raptor like 'needed only if registered'
16:35:09 Watusimoto_ tried that... it makes things too long
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16:35:21 Watusimoto_ that;s more concise...
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16:35:28 Watusimoto_ anyway... your issue
16:36:12 Watusimoto_ patch applied
16:39:40 Watusimoto_ wait, so running setSelf twice might not be so bad
16:39:49 Watusimoto_ because it's setting two different vars
16:40:00 Watusimoto_ I thought it was setting the var, then clobbering it
16:40:06 raptor no, different
16:40:27 raptor but it was the only place i could set 'bf' without some compile error involving statics and non-static issues
16:40:29 Watusimoto_ a little convoluted, perhaps
16:40:33 Watusimoto_ but not so bad
16:40:40 Watusimoto_ but
16:40:54 Watusimoto_ what about that idea of having only the bf object?
16:41:00 Watusimoto_ do you think that makes sense?
16:41:11 raptor would it replace 'bot' as well?
16:41:15 Watusimoto_ yes
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16:41:18 raptor it might make sense
16:41:25 raptor and 'plugin' ?
16:41:28 Watusimoto_ yes
16:41:34 raptor we could check the script type and forbit certain things..
16:41:37 Watusimoto_ bf would be the new "master global object"
16:41:43 Watusimoto_ yes
16:41:49 bobdaduck We should start saying "health points" instead of "money" in order to make finances easier to understand for the growing generation
16:41:51 raptor that seems OK
16:42:23 Watusimoto_ I'd probably want to look at the individual methods and see if they make sense in the context of a bf object
16:42:51 Watusimoto_ bf:addObject()
16:43:06 Watusimoto_ bf:setGameTime()
16:43:22 raptor it is a little odd having bot:findObject and bot:calcIntercept()
16:43:28 raptor findObject doesn't fit there..
16:43:37 Watusimoto_ bf:logprint()
16:43:38 raptor there's lots of them like that..
16:43:45 Watusimoto_ bf:calcIntercept()
16:43:53 Watusimoto_ that could be a general utility function
16:43:56 raptor so you see my static vs non-static separation
16:44:02 Watusimoto_ would you ever need to call that for a different bot?
16:44:09 Watusimoto_ yes
16:44:25 Watusimoto_ bf:getGameInfo
16:44:32 Watusimoto_ bf:getPlayerCount
16:44:52 Watusimoto_ with scripts it's pretty clear... all those methods could be global
16:44:56 raptor yes, you'd need to call it for a different bot because it depends on the current bot's location
16:44:58 Watusimoto_ as there is only one levelgen
16:45:05 raptor but the globals
16:45:07 raptor yes
16:45:31 Watusimoto_ but with bot... you would sometimes need to refer to the curernt bot vs. a different bot
16:45:41 Watusimoto_ bot:calcIntercept()
16:45:48 Watusimoto_ otherBot:calcIntercept()
16:45:54 raptor yep
16:45:56 Watusimoto_ bf:calcIntercept()
16:45:59 Watusimoto_ makes less sense
16:46:20 Watusimoto_ would probably also make sense in the plugin context
16:46:32 Watusimoto_ as there is only one plugin
16:46:59 raptor ah yes
16:47:03 raptor ok, true
16:47:08 Watusimoto_ I'd say we probably would need to keep a bot object regardless
16:47:14 raptor yes
16:47:17 Watusimoto_ so we'd need both bot and bf
16:47:21 Watusimoto_ regardless
16:47:23 raptor yes
16:47:43 raptor so we'd still need to call two setSelf()
16:47:53 Watusimoto_ for bots, yes
16:47:59 Watusimoto_ but most of those levelgen things I typed above woudl also make sense for bots
16:48:06 Watusimoto_ so they could still be on the bf: object
16:48:32 Watusimoto_ if they were allowed, that is
16:48:56 Watusimoto_ so, in case I fall asleep:
16:49:19 Watusimoto_ 1) two calls to setSelf seems in principle ok
16:49:42 Watusimoto_ 2) we could get rid of the levelgen and script objects altogether
16:49:55 Watusimoto_ 3) we will need to call setSelf twice for bots no matter what
16:50:10 Watusimoto_ those are my three points
16:50:24 raptor ok
16:50:26 raptor great
16:51:10 Watusimoto_ is that a satisfctory set of answers?
16:51:25 raptor yep
16:51:37 Watusimoto_ ok, I'm going to revert your patch
16:51:44 raptor yes please
16:51:47 Watusimoto_ so I can check in my other stuff
16:51:58 raptor should we still provide legacy wrapper for htings like levelgen:addItem() etc.?
16:54:20 Watusimoto_ yes, probably, though it is still possible to track down all levelgens
16:54:31 Watusimoto_ so we could just try to fix them all
16:54:34 raptor who know what bobdaduck has archived...
16:54:40 Watusimoto_ bobdaduck does
16:54:43 Watusimoto_ probably
16:55:02 bobdaduck I do!
16:56:15 bobdaduck probably
16:56:26 Watusimoto_ we could also print a deprecation warning whenever the levelgen: object is referenced
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16:57:25 Tttt7858 hi
16:57:29 Watusimoto_ hi
16:57:48 Tttt7858 Don't you like ownbitfighter?
16:58:12 Watusimoto_ on the other hand... simply setting a variable levelgen = bf is pretty low overhead
16:58:22 Watusimoto_ Tttt7858: what is ownbitfighter?
16:58:30 Watusimoto_ (I feel like i should know...)
16:58:57 Watusimoto_ http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8066/arxd.png
16:59:05 Watusimoto_ raptor: looks not so good
17:00:57 Tttt7858 I mean don't you own bitfighter?
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17:04:02 Watusimoto__ back!
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17:04:20 Watusimoto__ Tttt7858: no one really "owns" bitfighter, strictly speaking
17:04:32 Watusimoto__ but I created the project
17:04:35 Tttt7858 Oh.
17:04:40 Watusimoto__ so in that sense I do
17:04:45 Tttt7858 From teh rememnants of ZAP?
17:04:50 Watusimoto__ yes
17:04:54 Watusimoto__ more or less
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17:05:16 Tttt7858 :C I wish bitfighter was played more.
17:05:22 Watusimoto__ sigh
17:05:35 Tttt7858 I mean zap was kinda popular.
17:05:45 Watusimoto__ our next release will have lots of things to make it easier for new players
17:05:55 Tttt7858 Like?
17:06:17 Watusimoto__ like a built-in help system that shows a new guy around during his first couple of games
17:06:23 Watusimoto__ it will look a lot nicer
17:06:30 Watusimoto__ and feel more polished
17:06:40 Tttt7858 I'm sort of not new
17:06:42 Watusimoto__ (don't worry -- the core graphics are the same)
17:06:47 Tttt7858 but i suck at bitfighter.
17:06:51 Watusimoto__ its not for you, obviously
17:06:57 Tttt7858 ik
17:07:09 Watusimoto__ and adding bots will be a lot easier
17:07:22 Watusimoto__ which will make playing alone a bit less lame
17:07:24 Tttt7858 i was saying im sort of old in a sense since i played zap, but i suck at bitfighter
17:07:35 Watusimoto__ well... I do too
17:07:40 Tttt7858 and sucked at zap
17:07:43 Tttt7858 :3
17:08:01 Watusimoto__ we can't all be the best!
17:08:03 Tttt7858 dang i can't golf today :c
17:08:08 Tttt7858 ya
17:08:11 Tttt7858 so true
17:08:16 Watusimoto__ raptor: when is that level design contest party?
17:08:50 bobdaduck tomorrow
17:08:52 Watusimoto__ Tttt7858: there's a level design contest going on right now, and there'll be a big organized event to try out the submissions
17:08:53 bobdaduck 9 pm est
17:08:58 Watusimoto__ what day?
17:09:02 Watusimoto__ tomorrow
17:09:04 Watusimoto__ !!!!!
17:09:10 Watusimoto__ yikes!
17:09:13 Tttt7858 I suck at making maps too
17:09:18 Watusimoto__ no worries
17:09:26 bobdaduck you don't have to make a submission
17:09:29 Watusimoto__ come join the party tomorrow.  there'll be lots of players
17:09:30 bobdaduck just come and play everyone elses!
17:09:37 Watusimoto__ they're always fun
17:09:48 Tttt7858 I wish I could get a medal but i suck, and i don't want to get it unlegitly
17:10:24 Watusimoto__ I only have mine because I was testing the database and never removed mine.  someday I will
17:10:31 Watusimoto__ everyone knows I don't deserve it -)
17:10:51 Tttt7858 lol
17:11:10 Tttt7858 idk how to script with lua or c++
17:12:54 Watusimoto__ well... you can learn!  or you can just play and have fun!
17:12:58 Watusimoto__ there's no shame in that
17:13:05 Tttt7858 true.
17:13:32 Watusimoto__ bobdaduck basically hung out and offered suggestions for years before he decided to learn lua
17:13:33 Tttt7858 Basically my favorite games are where you can either get a rank with a picture i find those cool.
17:13:38 Watusimoto__ we still like him
17:14:02 Watusimoto__ we've talked about ranks, not sure how they would work
17:14:04 raptor ok back... reading logs...
17:14:09 Watusimoto__ or what they would be based on
17:14:12 Tttt7858 anything with medals, ribbons, or awards are what i like..
17:14:13 Tttt7858 Hmm
17:14:15 Tttt7858 I know
17:14:21 Tttt7858 Like experiance?
17:14:25 Watusimoto__ we are trying to add more badges
17:14:32 Tttt7858 From winning games
17:14:35 Watusimoto__ we could rank you based on the number of games you've played
17:14:45 Watusimoto__ we have very detailed stats on every game
17:14:47 Tttt7858 But it'd be easy to just join games over and over.
17:14:57 Watusimoto__ we only count games completed
17:15:17 Tttt7858 You could make it like badges, where there must be 3 legit human registered people
17:15:20 Watusimoto__ quitting before the game is complete doesn't trigger a write to the game database
17:15:24 raptor yeah, password thing doesn't look so good...
17:15:30 Watusimoto__ we haev the concept of "official" game
17:15:42 Watusimoto__ 4 players, two of whom are registered
17:15:55 Tttt7858 and get eperiance from bringing things to goals and nexus and blowing upship
17:15:57 Watusimoto__ we could rank based on that if we thought people were gaming the system
17:16:03 raptor levelgen contest part is on friday 9? EST:  http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1970
17:16:32 Tttt7858 maybe titles
17:16:37 raptor party is friday!
17:16:53 Watusimoto__ I'll tell my kids -- they'll definitely want to play
17:17:04 raptor contest entries due tomorrow night at midnight
17:17:10 Tttt7858 Like "Sir" Little_apple "duke" kaen
17:17:22 Tttt7858 I have a horrid 1v1 map
17:17:23 raptor unless you are in IRC and see me say the following:  I will secretly accept them until the party...
17:17:26 Watusimoto__ we actually have a couple of girls playing...
17:17:46 Watusimoto__ raptor: noted
17:17:48 Tttt7858 can i enter mine?
17:17:51 Watusimoto__ sure
17:17:57 Tttt7858 Right now?
17:18:03 Watusimoto__ just think of a way to fit it into the contest theme
17:18:16 Watusimoto__ (even if it's a fairly liberal interpretation)
17:18:17 Tttt7858 balooooooooooooooooooooons
17:18:25 Watusimoto__ the them is "fancy desserts"
17:18:38 bobdaduck lol
17:18:40 Watusimoto__ we're not strict, as long as you make some effort
17:18:46 Tttt7858 What about a conservative interpretation
17:18:52 Watusimoto__ even better
17:18:57 Tttt7858 not much dessert
17:19:07 Tttt7858 hmm lemme see
17:19:32 Tttt7858 will we get badges for it
17:20:09 Tttt7858 I have an idea, I'm sorry I talk so much though. How about ribbons, like win # of "Official" games
17:20:11 Watusimoto__ only if you win
17:20:27 Watusimoto__ what do you mean by ribbons?
17:20:51 Tttt7858 Little strips with colored ends
17:21:06 Tttt7858 the military uses them, I think they'd be cool for bitfighter
17:21:07 Watusimoto__ that could go beside your name?
17:21:17 Tttt7858 I dunno
17:21:24 Tttt7858 Sure
17:21:27 Watusimoto__ I've thought of something like seargant stripes
17:21:32 Tttt7858 LOL
17:21:42 Watusimoto__ same concept
17:21:46 Tttt7858 Ribbon bars are those rainbows you see on generals
17:21:50 Watusimoto__ right
17:21:54 bobdaduck oh hey!
17:21:56 raptor another contest entry!
17:22:02 raptor hurrah!
17:22:03 bobdaduck I'm home and on the computer and watusimoto is awake!
17:22:11 bobdaduck I should show him things!
17:22:44 Watusimoto__ it would be relatively easy to do; what we mainly need is specific suggestions (like a photoshop rendering, or perhaps a set of font characters we could use, whatever)
17:22:51 Watusimoto__ something concrete to go on.
17:23:07 Watusimoto__ because I would be willing to implement something like that for 019
17:23:30 bobdaduck we have a list of achievements
17:23:41 Tttt7858 Hmm
17:23:52 Tttt7858 I'd say uh
17:23:55 bobdaduck And for whatever reason I have a folder on my desktop labeled "20x20 pixel gifs"
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17:24:03 Watusimoto__ this would be different, I think
17:24:11 bobdaduck which was for some clan/flag badge thing or something way back
17:24:11 Tttt7858 You like my idea?
17:24:18 Watusimoto__ I do
17:24:28 Tttt7858 Hmm how about colored
17:24:30 Tttt7858 -
17:24:36 Tttt7858 Colored dashes
17:24:37 Watusimoto__ we've talked about similar things before, but always get hung up on the specifics
17:25:05 Watusimoto__ arbitary colors aren;t so good because it;s hard to know which is better than the other... there needs ot be some progression
17:25:13 Tttt7858 Yeah.
17:25:14 Tttt7858 Hm
17:25:15 Tttt7858 I KNOW
17:25:20 bobdaduck until someone gets up and just codes things their way there won't be a lot of progress
17:25:22 Tttt7858 DOTS
17:25:29 Watusimoto__ we could do a series of red dots, or something
17:25:38 Watusimoto__ yes, that
17:25:45 bobdaduck any color of dots would look weird depending on team colos
17:25:47 Tttt7858 so a colored bar
17:25:54 Tttt7858 then dots to show progression
17:26:00 Watusimoto__ one for 10 games, 2 for 100, 3 for 1000...
17:26:04 Tttt7858 say 1-5 dots
17:26:06 Tttt7858 first tier
17:26:12 Tttt7858 all on one side
17:26:26 Tttt7858 then 6-10 on th othr side
17:26:35 bobdaduck Can I show watusimoto some levels and stuff?
17:26:37 Tttt7858 Or stars with your idea.
17:26:42 bobdaduck I'm sure I have things to show him.
17:26:43 bobdaduck xD
17:26:53 Tttt7858 Like Golden Stars next to each other.
17:26:57 Watusimoto__ bobdaduck: I really need to go to bed
17:27:01 bobdaduck aw
17:27:02 bobdaduck okay
17:27:07 Watusimoto__ bobdaduck: sorry!
17:27:15 Tttt7858 Then upsideown seargent stripes on the bottom of the stars like
17:27:16 Watusimoto__ bobdaduck: you have cool stuff!
17:27:16 bobdaduck have fun!
17:27:33 Tttt7858 destroy 1000 ships
17:27:40 Watusimoto__ Tttt7858: I ahve to go to bed (it's 1:30AM here)
17:27:47 Tttt7858 Bai watus
17:27:52 raptor night!
17:27:56 raptor i have to go, too
17:27:58 Watusimoto__ so if you are around tomorrow, you give me some more ideas
17:28:04 Tttt7858 Me?
17:28:08 Watusimoto__ but either way, play on friday
17:28:09 Watusimoto__ sure
17:28:16 Tttt7858 okay bye.
17:28:24 Tttt7858 have a nice rest
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17:30:51 BFLogBot Commit: 16b963582caf | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Privitize variable
17:30:53 BFLogBot Commit: b829fdbeca61 | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Change font of "Release" text on title screen, avoid double rendering logo
17:30:54 BFLogBot Commit: 3b6c1544fc5a | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Pass by reference
17:30:56 BFLogBot Commit: 0e9f4d83b5de | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Change OK to PLAY on first screen, remove dead code, add different dead code
17:30:58 BFLogBot Commit: b01608363818 | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Add (and comment out) code demoing how password field could be hidden on first run.  Not sure if I like it or not...  Uncomment to try it.
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19:57:14 bobdaduck raptor, please add to lua api:  ship:getThrust()
20:10:14 raptor what does tHAT DO?
20:16:50 bobdaduck Kind of like getVel I think
20:16:53 bobdaduck its a method on robots
20:17:34 raptor doesn't getVel() fulfill the need?
20:17:42 bobdaduck no
20:17:59 bobdaduck Not when I'm modifying how players control their ships
20:18:04 raptor ha
20:18:11 bobdaduck like on freestyle
20:18:16 bobdaduck I'd like to be able to get thrust
20:18:27 bobdaduck and if the player isn't *trying* to move, friction them to a stop
20:18:41 bobdaduck but I can't do that, I can only get current vel and multiply it
20:18:50 FlynnnNT bobdaduck: be careful
20:18:59 FlynnnNT trying to control a user's input over the internet is dangerous
20:19:04 bobdaduck RELAX
20:19:08 bobdaduck I'VE GOT IT ALL UNDER CONTROL
20:19:11 FlynnnNT lol
20:19:19 FlynnnNT you will have alot of latency issues
20:20:38 bobdaduck raptor take a look at this?
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20:27:50 bobdaduck http://pastie.org/8150969
20:28:14 bobdaduck confirmed, moving the soccerball off of 0,0 makes it appear again
20:28:28 raptor what
20:29:48 bobdaduck YOU HEARD ME
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20:32:55 amgine1234567890 hello hows it oging
20:33:04 bobdaduck hhello
20:33:19 amgine1234567890 any new version to bug test?
20:34:24 bobdaduck um
20:34:53 bobdaduck I don't know of any
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20:43:15 amgine1234567890 raptor you here?
20:47:49 raptor hello
20:47:53 raptor sorry off an on..
20:48:41 bobdaduck I'm goin' dancin'
20:48:42 bobdaduck seeyall
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22:27:19 raptor hi again
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