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| 04:15:32 | john___ | hi kaen! |
| 04:15:40 | kaen | hello! |
| 04:16:05 | kaen | and good morning or evening, as the case may be. |
| 04:16:27 | john___ | is bitfighter your game? |
| 04:16:35 | kaen | I help write it, yes |
| 04:16:47 | kaen | it's really watusimoto's game though |
| 04:16:49 | john___ | ah. you're a really good player. |
| 04:16:55 | kaen | hehe thanks :) |
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| 09:20:02 | raptor | !bug |
| 09:20:02 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewbug -- To view all bugs: http://tinyurl.com/bfbugs |
| 09:30:08 | raptor | I just loaded hosted a level, quit hosting, opened it in the editor, added a FF, saved, then rehosted - the surrounding BarrierMaker disappeared and wasn't saved to the level file |
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| 11:17:57 | raptor | oh my |
| 11:18:07 | raptor | the Ship::idle(path) logic is atrocious |
| 11:18:48 | raptor | I don't want to look at this anymore.. |
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| 13:12:37 | kaen | raptor: wut? |
| 13:13:53 | kaen | I just tried hosting/editing/saving/hosting and it worked fine here |
| 13:14:09 | kaen | oh! |
| 13:14:18 | kaen | raptor, you should look at sublime text |
| 13:14:22 | kaen | for js/lua/php editing |
| 13:14:47 | kaen | it gets a 10/10 for me |
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| 15:18:18 | raptor | hi |
| 15:22:00 | raptor | watusimoto was trying to evangelize sublime text for me last year... |
| 15:22:05 | raptor | it's a very pretty editor |
| 15:22:49 | raptor | SDL2 is in it's final RC! (according to an e-mail) |
| 15:28:21 | kaen | nice! |
| 15:28:35 | kaen | I found out the sublime text has a vim-like editing mode |
| 15:28:38 | kaen | now I'm hooked. |
| 15:29:01 | kaen | I've been cranking out lua plugins just to have an excuse to use it |
| 15:29:14 | raptor | heh |
| 15:29:28 | raptor | when i looked at it, it had a time-bombed demo |
| 15:29:35 | kaen | whoa |
| 15:29:51 | kaen | "There is currently no enforced time limit for the evaluation." |
| 15:30:00 | raptor | oh |
| 15:30:05 | raptor | well that's different... |
| 15:30:14 | kaen | I'm totally going to cough up $70 bones for it |
| 15:30:14 | raptor | maybe i'll have to try it out again.. |
| 15:30:23 | raptor | $70! |
| 15:30:27 | kaen | seventy dollars bones. |
| 15:30:34 | | raptor finally goes to the website.. |
| 15:31:05 | kaen | I had a particularly strong reaction because I have been looking for exactly this editor without ever knowing it. |
| 15:31:20 | kaen | vim mode, js support, plugins, fast |
| 15:31:21 | kaen | SO fast |
| 15:31:24 | kaen | opens immediately |
| 15:31:26 | kaen | closes the same. |
| 15:31:27 | raptor | it's an extremely nice editor.. |
| 15:31:57 | kaen | I probably wouldn't use it for c++ |
| 15:32:31 | raptor | yeah, i've been using 'kate' on linux, but it just isn't quite perfect... |
| 15:32:34 | kaen | although I'm running the 3.0 beta and it has some support for finding definitions and that sort of thing. |
| 15:32:45 | kaen | I've never tried that one |
| 15:33:04 | kaen | it even makes a good guess and finding definitions in js and lua |
| 15:33:08 | kaen | good guess at* |
| 15:33:11 | raptor | it's a KDE one - has loads of features, but is a bit klunky.. |
| 15:33:22 | raptor | cool |
| 15:33:58 | kaen | although it didn't quite understand the IIFE I used in the life levelgen :/ |
| 15:34:07 | raptor | maybe i'll use the beta.. |
| 15:34:13 | kaen | I recommend it |
| 15:34:13 | raptor | heh |
| 15:34:30 | kaen | although it lacks plugins because 3 apparently breaks the api |
| 15:40:45 | raptor | it starts up to fast... scary |
| 15:40:49 | raptor | *too |
| 15:41:06 | raptor | AHHH! it's too responsive... |
| 15:41:17 | | raptor has been jaded by eclipse |
| 15:53:03 | | BFLogBot Commit: d5b4adec0e3e | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix robots not fast-recharging energy if stationary. Fixes issue 216 |
| 15:53:25 | raptor | another one bites the dust |
| 16:34:25 | kaen | "Bobaduck" is online ... |
| 16:34:34 | raptor | ha |
| 16:46:56 | | BFLogBot Commit: 9f6843ca1c92 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Lua API: Add bot:hasModule. Update some doc |
| 16:47:18 | kaen | oops |
| 16:47:20 | kaen | server crashed |
| 16:47:27 | raptor | hehe |
| 17:29:05 | raptor | kaen: do we have anything major left to do to release? |
| 17:31:25 | kaen | I think we need a major amount of polish |
| 17:31:30 | kaen | but other than that, no |
| 17:31:43 | kaen | at least, my coding projects are all wrapped up |
| 17:38:39 | raptor | hmm... ok |
| 17:38:45 | raptor | time to polish |
| 17:42:50 | raptor | what do you think of the editor level entry screen? |
| 17:50:03 | kaen | I think it's a huge improvement over what was there |
| 17:50:16 | kaen | I think the prompt text should go though |
| 17:50:25 | kaen | or, actually, be moved |
| 17:50:50 | raptor | prompt text? |
| 17:51:10 | kaen | ENTER LEVEL TO EDIT |
| 17:51:34 | kaen | it's an eyesore to have it printed over the level list like that |
| 17:52:26 | kaen | also, the text entry/menu font really needs to be changed |
| 17:52:39 | kaen | ... I don't know what I was thinking when I did that. |
| 17:53:29 | raptor | eyesores |
| 17:53:33 | raptor | we must reduce those |
| 17:53:35 | kaen | yes |
| 17:54:15 | kaen | difficult in a game where the color scheme is #FF0000 #00FF00 #0000FF |
| 17:54:38 | raptor | haha |
| 17:55:45 | raptor | should we reclaim some of that space in UIQueryServer? |
| 17:55:47 | raptor | at the top |
| 17:56:03 | raptor | since it is now not green |
| 17:57:21 | kaen | I say yes |
| 17:57:30 | raptor | ok, I'll try and work on that a bit.. |
| 17:57:35 | kaen | ok. |
| 17:57:48 | kaen | I'll... uh... |
| 17:57:51 | kaen | wire in a GUI library? |
| 17:58:13 | kaen | :P |
| 17:58:34 | kaen | I'm going to figure out this font predicament |
| 17:59:48 | raptor | heh |
| 18:00:00 | raptor | don't be alarmed... i'm starting 10 servers |
| 18:00:27 | kaen | Servers Online: 14 |
| 18:00:38 | raptor | huh.. ok, 14 |
| 18:00:44 | kaen | 15 now |
| 18:00:56 | raptor | ah, i added 9 :) |
| 18:00:58 | kaen | I'm looking on the website :P |
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| 18:05:11 | raptor | heh, we have a Button class to handle the NEXT / PREV options if there are many servers |
| 18:09:48 | raptor | ha |
| 18:10:02 | raptor | I think the black lobby top is actually an error introduced by watusimoto |
| 18:10:13 | raptor | yep |
| 18:10:19 | raptor | totally a coding error |
| 18:10:26 | raptor | so the question is - should we keep it? |
| 18:12:14 | kaen | 100% yes |
| 18:12:20 | raptor | heh |
| 18:12:22 | raptor | sold! |
| 18:12:23 | kaen | it was like... split pea green before? |
| 18:12:30 | raptor | yeah... |
| 18:12:36 | raptor | or barf green |
| 18:12:44 | raptor | snot green |
| 18:13:15 | raptor | forgive me - i'm in a very biological part of my life at the moment (with kids..) |
| 18:13:22 | kaen | I understand :) |
| 18:13:46 | kaen | I spent my later teenage years babysitting my new little brother and sister |
| 18:14:01 | raptor | oh good! |
| 18:14:17 | raptor | so... yeah... uhh... split pea green |
| 18:15:30 | raptor | I'm beginning to think we should use TTF fonts almost anywhere in the menus... |
| 18:15:50 | raptor | but... hmmm |
| 18:16:24 | raptor | will it take away too much from bitfighter? |
| 18:16:45 | kaen | tough question ... |
| 18:17:28 | kaen | I've been having the same thought though |
| 18:20:46 | raptor | we don't want to shock people too much... |
| 18:21:01 | kaen | that's what beta testers are for :P |
| 18:21:07 | raptor | heh |
| 18:21:09 | raptor | too true |
| 18:24:31 | raptor | ok, dinner! |
| 18:24:42 | | BFLogBot Commit: 9ad089291ff2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Solidify black as the new server screen banner background. Also reduce used space a little |
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| 18:39:41 | bobdaduck | lawl |
| 18:39:46 | bobdaduck | someone is impersonating me |
| 18:39:52 | kaen | word |
| 18:40:13 | kaen | someone mentioned impersonating me yesterday. |
| 18:41:13 | bobdaduck | Likely that eight year old guy who seems to be playing a lot lately |
| 18:42:36 | bobdaduck | HE COULD AT LEAST BOTHER TO DE-CAPITALIZE HIS NAME |
| 18:44:21 | kaen | bobdaduck, http://pastie.org/8225719 |
| 18:44:27 | kaen | mildly interesting read |
| 18:44:44 | bobdaduck | hah |
| 18:45:54 | raptor | i'm not here |
| 18:46:01 | | BFLogBot Commit: eb916b48e935 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Server screen column header is not an ugly yellow anymore |
| 18:46:20 | raptor | kaen: what do you think of the new server screen (with that last commit ^^) |
| 18:47:36 | kaen | looks great raptor ! |
| 18:48:07 | raptor | needs more color? |
| 18:48:20 | kaen | not to me |
| 18:48:48 | raptor | ok |
| 18:48:55 | raptor | we'll see how watusimoto reacts.. |
| 18:50:15 | kaen | I actually really like it |
| 18:51:20 | raptor | should we have bobdaduck start giving brutal opinions (beta testing..) |
| 18:51:22 | raptor | ? |
| 18:51:51 | | bobdaduck buildbots latest |
| 18:52:36 | kaen | most definitely |
| 18:52:42 | kaen | BFBuildBot, last |
| 18:52:43 | BFBuildBot | last build [bitfighter-linux-x86_64]: 5m05s ago: build successful |
| 18:52:43 | BFBuildBot | last build [bitfighter-osx-i386-cross]: 4m48s ago: build successful |
| 18:52:43 | BFBuildBot | last build [bitfighter-w32-cross]: 5m36s ago: build successful |
| 18:56:13 | bobdaduck | I guess its better |
| 18:56:59 | raptor | we mean: start critiqueing everything |
| 18:57:09 | bobdaduck | oh. |
| 18:57:18 | raptor | we want to polish for the release since we're done with most big coding tasks now |
| 18:58:03 | kaen | looking for things that are confusing, eyesores, and of course bugs. |
| 18:59:39 | bobdaduck | tutorial goes kind of fast |
| 19:00:14 | bobdaduck | nexus doesn't have a symbol |
| 19:00:43 | kaen | good, good :) |
| 19:01:07 | raptor | hmm... nexus symbol |
| 19:01:35 | bobdaduck | the forcefield parts of the tutorial activate on wrong team forcefields |
| 19:01:44 | raptor | what tutorial? |
| 19:01:53 | bobdaduck | the... green words everywhere |
| 19:01:55 | raptor | ah |
| 19:01:55 | bobdaduck | when you start playing |
| 19:01:59 | raptor | ok |
| 19:02:12 | bobdaduck | like "repair forcefields to heal them!" on a hostile forcefield. |
| 19:02:58 | raptor | add things here: http://beta.etherpad.org/p/bf_019_polish |
| 19:08:31 | raptor | my first idea for a nexus symbol: http://www.twiddla.com/1266120 |
| 19:09:23 | bobdaduck | no |
| 19:09:29 | bobdaduck | just use anything watusimoto proposed for goalzones |
| 19:09:42 | raptor | even the heart? |
| 19:09:49 | kaen | please yes the heart. |
| 19:10:08 | raptor | so we get a different demographic? |
| 19:10:12 | bobdaduck | woahhhh |
| 19:10:14 | kaen | hehe |
| 19:10:24 | raptor | did you find the game clock yet? |
| 19:10:57 | raptor | in-game clock in lower right here: http://imgur.com/Iz33u9P |
| 19:11:01 | raptor | you don't see that? |
| 19:11:15 | bobdaduck | its not there. |
| 19:11:22 | bobdaduck | win 7 latest |
| 19:12:41 | bobdaduck | hahah |
| 19:12:49 | bobdaduck | "NEGATIVE POINTS" |
| 19:13:13 | kaen | eh? |
| 19:13:28 | bobdaduck | soccer into a hostile goal |
| 19:14:22 | raptor | no game clock.. that seems impossible? |
| 19:14:41 | bobdaduck | I was wondering what was up with that xD |
| 19:15:07 | kaen | maybe the font is missing? |
| 19:15:25 | kaen | bobdaduck, screenshot? |
| 19:15:36 | bobdaduck | uh. |
| 19:15:45 | bobdaduck | its not there. Not visible, not whatever |
| 19:15:54 | bobdaduck | there's nothing to see in the screenshot xD |
| 19:17:56 | raptor | can you give me a screen shot? |
| 19:18:03 | raptor | also nexus?: http://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt/nexus/nexus_3q.jpg |
| 19:19:09 | bobdaduck | hah, cool |
| 19:23:18 | bobdaduck | that's all for now |
| 19:43:01 | raptor | ok, good list to start with.. |
| 19:47:38 | raptor | bobdaduck: the game timer doesn't show up in *any* game? how about after changing levels? |
| 19:47:45 | bobdaduck | any game |
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| 20:35:30 | raptor | almost have a nexus symbol to show... |
| 20:48:48 | raptor | where's bobdaduck.. |
| 20:48:52 | raptor | kaen: still around? |
| 20:49:31 | raptor | behold a new nexus icon: http://i.imgur.com/CexFvZ2.png |
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| 20:51:14 | watusimoto | hi |
| 20:51:18 | raptor | watusimoto: are you repatriated yet? |
| 20:51:20 | raptor | hi |
| 20:51:24 | watusimoto | indeed |
| 20:51:47 | watusimoto | though still very tired... will be going to bed soon |
| 20:51:53 | raptor | welcome back! |
| 20:52:08 | watusimoto | thanks! |
| 20:52:22 | raptor | so kaen and I have decided to start polishing off things.. |
| 20:52:27 | raptor | we asked bobdaduck to beta test |
| 20:52:31 | watusimoto | good! |
| 20:52:36 | raptor | and started a list here: http://beta.etherpad.org/p/bf_019_polish |
| 20:52:53 | watusimoto | is that polish or Polish? |
| 20:54:01 | raptor | yeah, i keep reading it as Polish... I had a Polish-American friend in high school |
| 20:54:40 | raptor | oh |
| 20:54:52 | raptor | I just did this for a nexus symbol: http://i.imgur.com/CexFvZ2.png |
| 20:54:57 | raptor | first pass |
| 20:55:45 | raptor | what do you think? |
| 20:55:51 | watusimoto | not bad -- we should change the symbol when it's open, I think... what about a full circle with the same x in the middle? kind of broken circle, full circle |
| 20:56:28 | raptor | huh? |
| 20:56:30 | raptor | oh |
| 20:56:40 | raptor | you mean when the nexus is green use a different symbol? |
| 20:56:47 | watusimoto | yes, perhaps |
| 20:56:53 | watusimoto | it's just an idea |
| 20:57:25 | raptor | use the current idea as the open one? then a full closed circle when nexus is closed maybe? |
| 20:57:38 | watusimoto | that might make sense |
| 20:57:47 | watusimoto | like closed is a barrier around the flag |
| 20:57:52 | watusimoto | open is when the barrier breaks |
| 20:57:57 | watusimoto | that kind of thing? |
| 20:58:11 | watusimoto | though I really don't know how it would look |
| 20:58:38 | watusimoto | what about instead of an x we had an N? |
| 20:59:05 | watusimoto | maybe the x is better |
| 21:01:15 | raptor | this was my inspiration: http://bathsheba.com/sculpt/nexus/ |
| 21:02:09 | watusimoto | nice! |
| 21:03:50 | kaen | raptor, awesome! |
| 21:04:14 | kaen | I really like the x in the center |
| 21:04:26 | raptor | maybe the X should be 3 spokes? |
| 21:04:31 | raptor | instead of 4 |
| 21:04:45 | kaen | hmm |
| 21:04:57 | watusimoto | 3 or 6 |
| 21:05:39 | raptor | 6 == asterisks |
| 21:05:47 | raptor | let me do three... |
| 21:05:49 | watusimoto | * |
| 21:05:58 | raptor | ok that asterisk is 5... |
| 21:06:01 | raptor | on my client |
| 21:06:07 | raptor | 6 in my console |
| 21:06:10 | watusimoto | The asterix on my keyboard is 5, but on my screen is 6 |
| 21:06:30 | watusimoto | 5 looks better |
| 21:06:31 | raptor | let me try 3, i think 6 is too noisy |
| 21:14:11 | raptor | ok |
| 21:14:13 | raptor | here: http://i.imgur.com/LI0EFOA.png |
| 21:14:16 | raptor | 3 spokes |
| 21:14:43 | kaen | wow that feels a lot more unified |
| 21:14:51 | watusimoto | yes, improved |
| 21:15:14 | raptor | I like how the design tricks my eyes into thinking those are non-uniform-radius arcs |
| 21:16:19 | raptor | should I check in what I have? |
| 21:16:43 | kaen | I think so. |
| 21:16:50 | watusimoto | yes |
| 21:17:22 | kaen | definitely an improvement over NEXUS |
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| 21:20:40 | | BFLogBot Commit: fcdc2e903c60 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Nexus zone symbol! |
| 21:24:02 | | BFLogBot Commit: d79c8d366145 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Mass |
| 21:29:07 | | BFLogBot Commit: 65ef1abecec3 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Don't damage asteroids if spawn shield is up |
| 21:33:40 | BFLogBot | Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. -- Calvin |
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| 22:14:28 | raptor | night! |
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