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01:46:04Nothing_MuchHey uh.. guys


01:46:27Nothing_MuchThe website is giving me a shockwave flash file for download


01:46:31Nothing_MuchThe Bitfighter.org website


01:46:38Nothing_MuchDid something go wrong? ._.


01:48:21Nothing_Muchoh wait


01:48:22Nothing_Muchnevermind


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01:57:03Nothing_Muchoh


01:57:07Nothing_Muchnevermind again


01:57:10Nothing_MuchIt still happenes


01:57:28Nothing_MuchThe front page video prompts me to download it for some reason o.O


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09:56:45Nothing_MuchCanseco, You said something about the controls and SDL2 right?


09:57:57Cansecoi compiled dev version, but SDL2 segfaults with scancode


09:58:34Nothing_Muchoh


09:59:26Cansecokeyboard layout unknown, and it autodetects touchscreen as joystick


10:02:12Nothing_Muchalright then, I'll let a dev know whenever they're online


10:12:34Cansecomaybe it's a sdl bug, will test with sdl dev too


10:15:36Nothing_Muchalright


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11:38:23fordcarsI have a question


11:38:52fordcarsWhat is HTML? It's not a programming language, since you don't actually 'program' anything


11:39:19Nothing_Muchfordcars, it's a markup language


11:39:27Nothing_Muchhypertext markup language


11:39:38fordcarsWhere's the T?


11:39:43fordcarsoh text


11:40:00Nothing_Muchlol yeah


11:40:03fordcarsok, you answered one of the biggest questions I asked myself


11:40:12fordcarsThanks!


11:40:19Nothing_Muchby the way


11:40:20Nothing_Muchnp


11:40:20Nothing_MuchNothing_Much> Canseco, You said something about the controls and SDL2 right?


11:40:20Nothing_Much<Canseco> i compiled dev version, but SDL2 segfaults with scancode


11:40:21Nothing_Much<Nothing_Much> oh


11:40:21Nothing_Much<Canseco> keyboard layout unknown, and it autodetects touchscreen as joystick


11:40:21Nothing_Much<Nothing_Much> alright then, I'll let a dev know whenever they're online


11:40:23Nothing_Much<Canseco> maybe it's a sdl bug, will test with sdl dev too


11:40:25Nothing_Much<Nothing_Much> alright


11:40:29Nothing_Muchhe was here today


11:40:52fordcarsoh ok


11:41:10Nothing_MuchI'm not sure what he said though lol :(


11:41:19fordcarsMe neither :P


11:41:28Nothing_MuchWhat's up?


11:41:35fordcarsNot much


11:41:51fordcarsYou?


11:42:01fordcarsNothing Much haha


11:42:02Nothing_MuchNothin' much, trying to record some gameplay footage of 019


11:42:03Nothing_Muchlol


11:42:10fordcarshah ok


11:42:19fordcarsYou are on Windows?


11:42:23Nothing_MuchUnfortunately when I was done demoing something, Bitfighter crashed my compie :(


11:42:24Nothing_MuchLinux


11:42:26Nothing_MuchUbuntu


11:42:28Nothing_Much:D


11:42:38fordcarsWow haha


11:42:54Nothing_MuchIt's tha


11:42:55Nothing_Mucht


11:42:59fordcarsI'am on my Pi as always


11:42:59Nothing_MuchOr maybe it's my faulty hardware


11:43:07fordcarsMaybe... faulty?


11:43:12Nothing_MuchHardware


11:43:18Nothing_MuchIt's 6 year old technology I'm on


11:43:29fordcarsHehe


11:43:35Nothing_MuchIntel Core 2 Quad with 5GB DDR2 RAM and a Geforce 220 gt


11:43:43fordcarsI actually do have computers, btw, but they are PPCs


11:43:50Nothing_MuchAh


11:43:57Nothing_MuchYou might need to get an x86 version


11:44:05Nothing_MuchThough


11:44:08fordcars?


11:44:13Nothing_MuchAn x86 pc


11:44:21fordcarsAll my computers are old, PowerPc


11:44:28fordcarsI should be getting a new one soone


11:44:33Nothing_MuchYeah I know, get a newer one is what I- Yeah that


11:44:55Nothing_MuchI'm conflicted on what I want


11:45:02fordcarsI am saving up, I '''''''refurbished''''' an old Macintosh


11:45:14Nothing_MuchCool


11:45:21fordcarsAnd I am going to sell it


11:45:30fordcarsTo an antique store or something


11:45:45fordcarsIt's a Macitosh SE/30


11:45:48Nothing_MuchYou have those?


11:45:52Nothing_MuchAntique stores?


11:46:15fordcarsNo, I have eBay ^^.


11:46:29fordcarsI had an offer, but it was too low


11:46:36Nothing_MuchBah, tell me about it


11:46:47Nothing_MuchI have a 79$ iMac I purchased from eBay


11:46:50fordcarsWell now it is on Kijiji


11:46:52Nothing_MuchI wanted to sell it for more


11:46:57fordcarsReally?


11:46:59fordcarsCool


11:46:59Nothing_MuchIt's an Intel iMac btw


11:47:01Nothing_MuchSo it's like


11:47:03fordcars:PPPP


11:47:05Nothing_MuchValuable to some


11:47:06Nothing_Muchlol


11:47:14fordcarsMeeee


11:47:24fordcarsI was hoping to get a Mac Mini


11:47:30Nothing_MuchDude


11:47:33fordcarsA refurbished one, looks good


11:47:33Nothing_MuchGet an iMac


11:47:35Nothing_MuchOh


11:47:38Nothing_MuchIntel?


11:47:40fordcarsIt's expensive!!!!


11:47:42Nothing_MuchOr PPC?


11:47:53fordcarsIntel, we have enough PPcs


11:47:55fordcars:)


11:48:00Nothing_MuchYeah


11:48:05Nothing_MuchSave up for an old Aluminum iMac


11:48:08Nothing_MuchYou seriously won't regret it


11:48:18Nothing_MuchThe speaker quality is just mind blowingly awesome


11:48:21fordcarsA mac mini with a cheap screen


11:48:26fordcarsReallyt?


11:48:27Nothing_MuchThis iMac is from 2006


11:48:28Nothing_MuchYeah


11:48:30Nothing_MuchLike


11:48:34fordcarsA new one?


11:48:40fordcarsoh ok


11:48:42Nothing_MuchRefurbished


11:48:46Nothing_MuchFrom eBay


11:48:48Nothing_MuchIt's a white one


11:49:00Nothing_MuchBut holy crap the speakers and the screen too


11:49:04Nothing_MuchAbsolutely gorgeous


11:49:08fordcarsHow much was it?


11:49:21Nothing_Muchit was 79$ but it only was the computer with a bad screen too


11:49:24Nothing_MuchBut it's viewable


11:49:35fordcarsOhhh reallly?


11:49:39fordcarsNice


11:49:46Nothing_MuchTons of lines though, it was the 17in model


11:49:49Nothing_MuchOh well


11:49:54Nothing_MuchIt's really not a big deal


11:49:59Nothing_MuchI'm satisfied with it


11:50:02fordcarsHehe


11:50:05Nothing_MuchMuch more than what I have right now


11:50:07fordcarsYeah I might look into it


11:50:22Nothing_MuchSeriously, if you have like 600$, you can get an old aluminum iMac


11:50:26Nothing_Muchon eBay


11:50:30fordcarsOK


11:50:46fordcarsWe have 500$ right now, + the old Mac we will sell


11:50:54Nothing_Muchnice


11:51:06fordcarsWe sold an old sound module, a tredmill, a speaker lol


11:51:30Nothing_MuchI would recommend a 20in or 21.5in iMac, oh wow, really? Craigslist?


11:51:52fordcarsWhat


11:52:04Nothing_MuchHow did you sell your items?


11:52:11fordcarsUH


11:52:47Nothing_MuchUh.. what?


11:52:49fordcarsI think it was 50$ for Tredmill, and like 170$ for the sound module,and uh


11:53:30fordcarsI have no idea haha


11:53:43Nothing_MuchOh, like at a garage sale or something?


11:53:53fordcarsI was out of town when we sold the stuff


11:54:04fordcarsMy brother took care of it haha


11:54:10Nothing_MuchAh, nice


11:54:20Nothing_Muchhttp://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php


11:54:24Nothing_MuchI'm looking at this thing


11:54:32Nothing_MuchJust so I can test it out


11:55:11Nothing_MuchIt looks so cool


11:55:19Nothing_MuchBut I need to figure out what OpenGL ES is


11:55:19fordcarsWow, looks like that Intel thing for 500$


11:55:24fordcarsHAHAH


11:55:27Nothing_MuchMinnowboard?


11:55:38fordcarsOpengl Es is the reason my Raspberry Pi is slow in Bitfighter


11:56:17fordcarsIt's the mobile version of Opengl, and OpenGL es is not compatible with SDL2, and SDL2 is not compatible with my Raspberry Pi yet :P


11:56:30Nothing_MuchUh oh


11:56:41fordcarsIt'll be fine if it's windows


11:56:54fordcarsIt's SDL2 linux I think


11:56:58Nothing_MuchYeah


11:57:00Nothing_MuchI think that's it


11:57:07fordcarsThat is not done or something


11:57:15Nothing_MuchBut the dev said it got like 50-60 FPS on the Pandora


11:57:21Nothing_Much*porter


11:57:42fordcarshttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/199-4-2-computer-is-intels-first-raspberry-pi-competitor/


11:58:10fordcarsOh ok


11:58:26Nothing_MuchHe used a translation thingy I think


11:58:35fordcarsOh ok


11:58:36Nothing_MuchYeah, I discovered the Minnowboard last night actually lol


11:58:43fordcarsMinnow Board is Intel thing sorry


11:58:54Nothing_MuchYeah it's no biggie


11:59:00Nothing_MuchI'm kinda split on that and the ODROID


11:59:19Nothing_MuchWith the Intel board, I could test out the graphics capabilities on Steam games..


11:59:22Nothing_MuchThen again


11:59:28Nothing_MuchThe ODROID is something different


11:59:34Nothing_MuchAnd I'd like to learn about it and Arm


11:59:46fordcarsYeah, but it's not as cheap as Pi, if you fry it by overclocking x200 or shoot it up in the air, it's not as cheap to replace


11:59:52fordcarsIntel^


11:59:57Nothing_MuchPfft


12:00:01fordcarsODROID looks good


12:00:05Nothing_MuchOverclocking is such a dumb thing to do


12:00:15Nothing_MuchI honestly think OCing something is a waste of tiem


12:00:18Nothing_Much*time


12:00:21fordcarsI know haha


12:00:28Nothing_MuchODROID is good, from what I'm lookin' at


12:00:34Nothing_MuchIt's also as small as the Pi


12:00:37Nothing_MuchBut a bit more pricey


12:00:45Nothing_MuchI wouldn't mind owning one though


12:00:53fordcarsoooh 1.6 ghz


12:00:55Nothing_MuchMy big-ass PC right now really is a heater


12:01:08fordcarsquad core


12:01:12Nothing_MuchYeah the ODROID is awesome


12:01:29Nothing_MuchAnd 2GB DDR3 RAM or somethin'


12:01:40fordcarsI think that's fast


12:01:48fordcars2gb is cool


12:02:04Nothing_MuchI need to know what an eMMC module is though


12:02:13Nothing_MuchI'd love to put Ubuntu on that thing


12:02:30fordcarsWhere does it boot from? SD card?


12:02:45Nothing_MuchOr eMMC so it says


12:02:51Nothing_MuchCheck out the vids


12:02:56Nothing_MuchOh wait


12:02:59fordcarsHAha


12:03:46fordcarsMicroSd or eMMC for OS


12:03:51Nothing_MuchYeah


12:04:12fordcarsCool


12:04:27fordcarsOk flash memory


12:05:04Nothing_MuchYeah


12:05:06fordcars4 usb ports#


12:05:09Nothing_MuchWhat's an eMMC?


12:05:26fordcarsI was going to ask the same question


12:05:36fordcarsI think it's fast flash memory


12:06:25Nothing_MuchI'm gonna look that up right now


12:06:36fordcarsLooks like a memory card


12:07:09fordcarshttp://com.odroid.com/sigong/_Files/2012/201211/images/G135393648531-0.jpg


12:07:13fordcarson ODROID


12:08:08Nothing_MuchAh


12:08:40fordcarsIf caseco managed to get Bitfighter to run like that, I should ask him


12:08:52fordcarsI was stuck using simulated OpenGl


12:09:03fordcarsso it's super-slow on Raspberry Pi


12:09:12fordcarsand on everything else...


12:09:46Nothing_MuchHmm.. Well you can look at the bitfighter app on the openpandora repo


12:09:47fordcarshttp://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G137454809984


12:09:55fordcarsOh right


12:10:28fordcarsMan Pandora looks cool


12:10:37fordcarsa handtop computer :P


12:10:46Nothing_MuchYeah


12:10:46fordcarsWith wireless Bitfighter


12:10:46Nothing_Muchlol


12:10:50Nothing_MuchYep


12:11:58fordcarsAhhh I want one


12:12:29Nothing_MuchIt's kinda outdated, but it's got a touchscreen and a lot of stuff


12:13:09fordcarsYeah


12:13:23Nothing_MuchIt's like the ultimate portable emulator console


12:13:29fordcarsYeah


12:15:58fordcars600mgz


12:16:05fordcars*mhz


12:16:29fordcarsoh 1ghz too


12:18:32Nothing_MuchYep


12:19:58fordcarsHey, just out of curiosity, how fast is your 79% iMac?


12:20:06fordcars*$


12:22:21Nothing_MuchIt's 1.83GHz Core Duo 32bit


12:22:41Nothing_MuchI upgraded the RAM and put Lubuntu on it though


12:22:49Nothing_MuchBut boy was it speedy


12:23:00Nothing_MuchIt's a first gen Intel iMac too


12:24:12fordcarsCool


12:24:38fordcarsYeah I'll look into it


12:25:15fordcarsBut is a Mac Mini with a 'good' screen cheaper than an iMac?


12:27:06Nothing_MuchYou mean a screen you already have?


12:27:42fordcarsNo :/


12:27:54Nothing_MuchThat depends on the screen so I'm not sure


12:28:18fordcarsI want a 40 inch touch screen, is that under 50$


12:28:26Nothing_Muchlolwut


12:28:31fordcarsLol


12:28:43fordcarsNah like 20 inch, '


12:28:48Nothing_MuchThen the iMac will be cheaper but without a touchscreen


12:29:02Nothing_MuchI don't really see the point in having a desktop with a touchscreen


12:29:03fordcarsHahaha i know


12:29:06Nothing_MuchIt just seems silly to me


12:29:17fordcarsI hate computer touchscreens on Desktoips


12:29:21Nothing_MuchYeah


12:30:02fordcarsYou have really close to the screen, just to save the time it would take to move the mouse 5 inches


12:30:15Nothing_MuchYeah


12:30:34fordcarsA huge tablet


12:30:40fordcarsWih Windows 8


12:30:49Nothing_MuchYuck


12:30:51fordcars;)


12:31:20fordcarsI realy don't like Windows 8


12:32:14fordcarsMan typos


12:32:41Nothing_MuchWindows 8 isn't that bad


12:32:46Nothing_MuchBut good god


12:32:52Nothing_MuchI'm just sick to death of Windows


12:32:56fordcarsI find it's too 'mobiley'


12:32:58Nothing_MuchAnd Microsoft in general


12:33:02fordcarsMe too


12:33:13fordcarsIt bugs


12:33:24fordcarsIt's jittery


12:33:36Nothing_MuchGlad I got my mother on Kubuntu


12:34:00fordcarsWhy do you always say Ubuntu with a different letter a the beginnig?


12:34:06fordcars:P


12:34:32fordcarsIs it a different flavor of ubuntu?


12:35:16Nothing_MuchLol yeah dude


12:35:26fordcarsOh ok it's a deriative


12:35:30Nothing_MuchKubuntu = Ubuntu with the KDE interface


12:35:30fordcars:P sorry


12:35:36Nothing_MuchLubuntu = Ubuntu with the LXDE interface


12:35:36fordcarsOh okokok


12:35:39Nothing_Muchetc


12:35:40Nothing_Muchlol


12:35:42Nothing_MuchNp


12:35:50fordcarsOh I have LXDE on my Pi


12:36:04fordcarsBut man I need a new Tv


12:36:18Nothing_MuchWhat's your TV?


12:36:19Nothing_MuchCRT?


12:36:21fordcarsI have like 640x800


12:36:25fordcarsYEAH


12:36:30Nothing_MuchYikes


12:36:36Nothing_MuchCan you see this text?


12:36:42fordcarsWe never had an LCD or anything like that yet :PPP


12:36:55Nothing_MuchYou'll get one when you get an iMac dude


12:36:56Nothing_MuchTrust me


12:37:00Nothing_MuchGet one off of eBay


12:37:00fordcars:P


12:37:17fordcarsOnce it broke


12:37:20Nothing_MuchYour mind will blow when you notice how good the everything is on Apple's latest products.


12:37:50fordcarsThe whole family was like 'YES WE ARE GETTING A NEW TV' but some guy managed to repair it


12:38:11fordcarsYeah


12:38:27fordcarsA web browser doesn't fit in my crt


12:38:41fordcarsOn my Pi


12:38:44Nothing_MuchOuch


12:39:02fordcarsLots of letters are the same


12:39:16fordcars' and " are exactly the same


12:39:42fordcarslol


12:40:55Nothing_Muchoh dear


12:41:24fordcarsIt's fun coding


12:41:28fordcars:P


12:42:13fordcarsYou have a Tv from this century?


12:43:11Nothing_MuchYeah


12:43:15Nothing_MuchIt's an Olevia or something


12:43:41fordcarsAh ok


12:43:49fordcarsI have a JVC


12:43:50Nothing_MuchLCD


12:43:55fordcars:)


12:43:55Nothing_MuchWhat's that?


12:44:00fordcarsJVC?


12:44:07Nothing_MuchYeah


12:44:14fordcarsWow my Tv must be old :)


12:44:23fordcarsNow the make camera's


12:44:29fordcars*s


12:44:50fordcarsI think my tx is from 1989 or around that


12:44:58fordcars*Tv mand typos


12:45:46fordcars*man typos


12:45:56fordcarshttp://www.sportbikes.net/forums/attachments/other/124654d1180308189-sale-27-jvc-crt-television-san-diego-ca-jvc-tv-front.jpg


12:46:00fordcarsThere's my Tv!


12:46:05Nothing_MuchHoly crap


12:47:02fordcarshaha


12:47:51fordcarsI would like to experience 'Hd', while Tvs are now super-Hd 3d lol


12:50:24Nothing_MuchLol yeah


12:50:57fordcarsBut hey, it does the job


12:55:19Nothing_MuchPretty badly though lol


12:55:34fordcarshaha


12:55:38fordcarsYeah


12:57:09fordcarsWhen I am in Terminal, and I select text, it selects in white, and my whole screen 'groues'


12:58:00fordcarsBig contrats make the screen go weird lol


13:02:57fordcarsoh Nothing Much!


13:03:20fordcarsAn eMMC card is a fast memory card that plugs into a MicroSd card adapter


13:04:31Nothing_MuchYes?


13:04:34Nothing_MuchOh really?


13:06:11Nothing_MuchI don't see a MicroSD card slot on the ODROID


13:06:44fordcarshttp://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G137454809984


13:06:58fordcarsIt does, I think


13:07:16kaenWATUSIMOTO


13:07:18kaenI SUMMON THEE


13:07:27fordcarsHi kaen


13:08:02kaenhi guys


13:08:13Nothing_MuchHey dude


13:08:43fordcarskaen, you know Caseco? He managed to get Bitfighter unning on Ubuntu with OpenGLES


13:08:45fordcarsIt hink


13:08:51kaengroovy :)


13:09:05kaenyeah we have reasonably good GLES support in mercurial


13:09:09fordcarsnot ubuntu, android


13:09:20fordcarswith SDL?


13:10:35Nothing_Muchfordcars, No no


13:10:44Nothing_MuchHe got it running on the PANDORA


13:10:50Nothing_MuchNot Ubuntu on Arm


13:10:53fordcarsWhich runs ANDROID


13:11:00fordcarsI think


13:11:01kaenhopefully without glshim...


13:11:09fordcarsIt runs 60fps


13:11:23Nothing_MuchGLSHIM is what he used or linuch or something, lemme check


13:11:45Nothing_MuchOh, yeah he used GLSHIM


13:12:03fordcarsWhat's that?


13:12:07Nothing_MuchI believe he didn't use Android though, he used the Pandora OS


13:12:14fordcarsOh okokokoko


13:12:21Nothing_Muchhttps://github.com/lunixbochs/glshim


13:12:31Nothing_MuchIt's a thing


13:12:59fordcarsOk, Pandora has Opengl ES


13:13:05fordcarsIt has Linux


13:13:09fordcarsIt has 60fps


13:13:14fordcarsIt has Bitfighter


13:13:23fordcarsIt has SDL1?


13:14:08kaenif he's using gles I think he has to be using sdl2


13:14:20kaenbut don't quote me on that


13:14:37kaenah good


13:14:41fordcarsDUDE


13:14:50kaentime to install 200MB of packages so I can use this one KDE application...


13:14:56fordcarsWOULDN@T THAT WORK ON PI?


13:14:59Nothing_Muchkaen, Why not just use glshim?


13:15:00kaenyep0


13:15:02fordcarsglshim


13:15:11kaenglshim does work on the pi


13:15:14Nothing_Muchfordcars, look at the webpage I showed ya


13:15:18Nothing_Muchyes it does


13:15:43thread_ has joined


13:15:47fordcarsWow


13:15:54fordcarsI should really try it


13:16:01thread_try what?


13:16:03fordcarsI may get more than 5fps


13:16:05Nothing_Muchglshim


13:16:17fordcarsI have git hub installed


13:16:23fordcarssince apt-get works mhahahaha


13:16:43kaenman, wat is not going to like this merge...


13:16:45Nothing_MuchI think you have to compile it anyways


13:16:54Nothing_Muchkaen, which merge?


13:16:56thread_kaen: why not?


13:16:56fordcarsYeah I think so


13:16:58kaenthis one I'm doing


13:17:11kaenI'm cleaning up some tests that he appears to be in the middle of writing


13:17:27thread_ah


13:17:48Nothing_Muchwhy do that tho?


13:17:59kaenbecause I'


13:18:03kaenm writing tests too


13:18:09kaenthat use this code that his new tests are using


13:18:16fordcarskaen, how do I disable Meta3d


13:18:18kaenso I wrapped it in a utility class to manage the setup/teardown


13:18:24kaenfordcars, I don't even know what that it


13:18:25kaenis


13:18:39fordcarsSOrry


13:18:43kaenme too :<


13:18:47fordcarsAHhhh *sorry


13:19:03fordcarsIt's the thing we used to get Bitfighter running on Pi


13:19:09fordcarsSomething 3d


13:19:33kaenyou mean Mesa 3D acceleration?


13:19:37kaenaka mesa-dri ?


13:19:43fordcarshaha yes thanks


13:19:52fordcarsHow do I disable it for Bitfighter?


13:19:59Nothing_Muchfordcars, you don't wanna do that


13:20:04kaenyou super don't


13:20:09Nothing_Muchyou do that, it'll be software acceleration


13:20:09fordcarsWhy?


13:20:11kaenit will definitely not help you at all


13:20:13Nothing_Muchyeah


13:20:18kaenit'll be software acceleration


13:20:19Nothing_Muchmesa is needed for OGL I'msure


13:20:27kaenit's needed for accelerated ogl


13:20:30Nothing_Muchyeah


13:20:34fordcarsoh ok


13:20:37Nothing_Muchand software rendering is 1fps for anything


13:20:46kaenwell...


13:20:47fordcarsBut will it work with glshim


13:20:51Nothing_Muchno no


13:20:57Nothing_MuchYou need Mesa for glshim


13:21:04Nothing_MuchLibGL is what is used


13:21:08Nothing_Muchaccording to the github


13:21:14fordcarsyep


13:21:24kaenyeah need some libGL, there's a couple you could use


13:21:24fordcarsOK, and then after installation, I compile


13:21:24Nothing_MuchThat's mesa


13:21:27kaenmesa is the best one


13:21:29kaenby far


13:21:34Nothing_Muchyeah


13:21:46Nothing_Muchfordcars, install GLSHIM


13:21:53Nothing_Muchbut you have to compile and make it first


13:21:57fordcarsyeah


13:22:01Nothing_Muchdo that


13:22:08fordcarscompile glshim?


13:22:11Nothing_Muchhttps://github.com/lunixbochs/glshim


13:22:19fordcarsYep, I'm there


13:22:34Nothing_Muchgit clone the repository


13:23:16Nothing_Muchkaen, does Bitfighter require libglu?


13:23:44kaenno, it shouldn't


13:23:50kaenit used to back in the day


13:23:55kaenwe use SDL now


13:23:58Nothing_Muchah okay


13:24:05kaenwhere'd you read that?


13:24:08fordcarsI am a noob, how do you clone? :/


13:24:10Nothing_Muchso fordcars, skip the GLU part for glshim


13:24:20Nothing_Muchfordcars, you open a terminal


13:24:25fordcarsYeah


13:24:32Nothing_Muchdo you have git installed?


13:24:36fordcarsYeah


13:24:38kaengit clone repourl


13:24:43Nothing_Muchgit clone and yeah that


13:24:50fordcarsrepourl...


13:24:53fordcarsok


13:24:56kaenit's the repo's url


13:25:04kaendon't actually type repourl ...


13:25:06fordcarsohhhhhhhhh


13:25:08fordcarsHahahaha


13:25:14kaensorry, should have been more clear


13:25:18Nothing_Muchthe repo URL is at the right hand side at the right of the page


13:25:18kaengit clone $repourl


13:25:22Nothing_Muchit should end with .git


13:25:32fordcarsMan, I need to find the PiStore directory, it's taking 2 gb


13:25:46kaenah, package metadata


13:25:46Nothing_Muchit's NOT the url at the top of the web browser


13:25:47fordcarsI have 400mb left


13:26:11fordcarsWha


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13:26:31Nothing_MuchOut of how large of a storage drive do you have?


13:26:38amgine123456789sup


13:26:42Nothing_MuchHey amgine123456789


13:26:51kaenhi


13:26:52fordcarsNothing Much, a 4gb Sd card


13:26:57BFLogBot Commit: fc6d4a02b35a | Author: kaen  | Message: add TestUtils


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13:26:58kaenD:


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13:27:32fordcarsNothing Much, what is the repoUrl of the glshim!


13:27:35Nothing_Muchfordcars, omg dude, uninstall some things just in case the git cloning and compiling doesn't work


13:28:18Nothing_Muchhttps://github.com/lunixbochs/glshim.git


13:28:21Nothing_Muchis the repo url


13:28:24fordcarsYeah, I downloaded a game from the PiStore, and then it failed when installing, and I can't find the PiStore directory


13:28:32fordcarsoh ok


13:28:33Nothing_MuchOh dear


13:28:39Nothing_MuchYeah that's the glshim thing


13:28:44Nothing_MuchPut that after "git clone'


13:28:45fordcars?


13:28:47Nothing_Muchin the terminal


13:28:49fordcarsyeah sure


13:28:49kaengit clone https://github.com/lunixbochs/glshim.git


13:28:54Nothing_MuchWhat kaen said


13:28:57fordcarsYes I know ;)


13:29:00Nothing_MuchPut that line i- nice


13:29:04kaenjust wanted to be *super* clear


13:29:14fordcarsI have to delete the stupid game thing though, should give me 700mb


13:29:21fordcarsSure ;)


13:30:43Nothing_Muchwhen it's done cloning, you should get a new folder in your home directory


13:31:18fordcarsBut how do I make more mb show up :( I can't find the PiStore directory


13:31:26fordcarsThe mighty google doesn't say a thing


13:31:40Nothing_MuchPistore?


13:31:48fordcarsSteam for Pi :)


13:32:11fordcarsI had downloaded a Quake-type game, but I have no iea where it's installed


13:32:21Nothing_MuchYeah I know, but why not launch the pi store thing?


13:32:36fordcarsI do, but I can only install the game


13:32:46Nothing_MuchOhh


13:32:47fordcarsAnd the game is half downloaded


13:32:51Nothing_MuchLook in hidden files dude


13:33:03fordcarsSo I can't install, and I can't delete from the PiStore


13:33:13fordcarsI did, I'll try again


13:33:39Nothing_MuchYou could try a search


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13:40:09amgine123456789hmmmmm


13:41:53fordcarsOK... they were only 90kb each


13:41:55fordcarsThe games


13:42:00fordcarsI found the directory


13:42:45fordcarsWeird


13:43:22Nothing_MuchOh my


13:43:33Nothing_MuchLook at the properties


13:43:40Nothing_MuchBecause those might just be shortcuts


13:43:42fordcarsI have it!


13:43:46fordcarsSorry


13:43:53fordcarsThe installers are bigger


13:43:57fordcarsbut still


13:43:58Nothing_MuchAh


13:44:32fordcarsTada


13:44:38fordcars1.5 gb of installers


13:44:46fordcarswell, installer


13:44:48Nothing_Muchoh my


13:45:16kaenthere should totally be an option to purge the cache, fordcars


13:45:26kaenif there is not, pistore must be a terrible piece of software.


13:45:35fordcarsnah, there is a delete button


13:45:50fordcarsBut, since I had stopped the download of a agame, it was all messed up


13:46:09fordcarsAnd the Delete button was replaced with an Install button


13:46:19fordcarsBut installer wasn't completely downloaded


13:46:30kaenI meant to clear all of the installers


13:46:47fordcarsYeah maybe so


13:46:54fordcarscrap I gained 100 mb??


13:47:38Nothing_Muchdid you empty your trash?


13:47:57fordcarsWhat's the diffrence between Total Size of Files and Size on Disk?


13:48:03fordcarsYeah I did empty


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13:50:58Nothing_MuchI don't know


13:51:00fordcarsargh


13:51:39fordcarsWhere has my gbs gone?


13:52:02fordcarswait


13:52:32Nothing_Muchgbs?


13:53:51fordcarssorry


13:53:53fordcarsGBs


13:54:06fordcarsGigaBytes


13:54:10fordcars:PPPP


13:54:45Nothing_Muchah


13:54:54Nothing_MuchWell now can you install glshim?


13:55:17fordcarsWell I gained 100mb


13:55:27fordcarsbut still, I have 588 mb


13:55:52Nothing_MuchDid the clone work?


13:56:11fordcarsI dim't do it yet!


13:56:17Nothing_MuchOh


13:56:17fordcarsokok doing it


13:57:38fordcarsok done


13:59:30fordcarsok Nothing Much, do I follow GitHub glshim Installation instructions?


14:01:28Nothing_MuchYes, but ignore GLU


14:01:34Nothing_MuchGLU is not needed


14:01:49fordcarsoh okokok


14:05:07fordcarsUH, where is libGl?


14:05:19fordcarslibGL.so.1


14:07:43fordcarsOh sorry, where is glshim saved?


14:10:00fordcarsoh ok nm


14:12:27fordcarsok, it says to move some files to LD_LIBRAY_PATH


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14:25:16fordcarskaen? Git tells me to put some files in LD_LIBRARY_PATH, what do I do?


14:25:25fordcarswell glshim instructionms


14:26:45kaenprobably /usr/local/lib


14:27:00kaenyou'll need to be root


14:27:17kaenif that doesn't work, you might try /usr/lib


14:27:21kaenbut that can be dangerous,


14:27:48fordcarsbut


14:28:02fordcarsthe libGL.so.1 is not in glshim...


14:28:17fordcarshttps://github.com/lunixbochs/glshim


14:28:28kaenright, you should have just compiled it


14:28:33kaenit should be in a directory called src


14:28:41fordcarsoh I do compile it?


14:28:51kaenyep


14:29:06fordcarsohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


14:29:23kaencmake . -DBCMHOST=1; make GL


14:29:25amgine123456789i really need the latest build in ZIP format


14:30:23fordcarsI would like to go into coding, like basic c code


14:30:30fordcarsto start, on my Pi


14:30:58kaenamgine123456789, I'll see what I can do


14:31:07kaenit takes a lot of effort to make those on linux


14:31:14amgine123456789yeah ill bet


14:31:23kaenfordcars, great! C is easier than it looks


14:31:26amgine123456789i need a standalone ZIP format


14:31:58fordcarsamgine, make a standalone.txt file in bitfighter folder, and it'll be standalone


14:32:41fordcarsor, just get mercurial


14:33:05kaenyeah, if you could install mercurial, cmake, and visual studio express 2010, you could build it yourself


14:33:12kaenand not have to wait on me to stop being lazy :P


14:33:20fordcars:PPPP


14:33:41amgine123456789lol all files on my om ccomputer are blopcked execpt ZIPs thats why i need the lastest build in a ZIP format


14:33:46kaenactually the main thing is that in order to make a windows build I have to clear all of my work in progress in my local clone


14:33:53amgine123456789block evading XD


14:34:02kaenso...


14:34:10kaenwhat if I gave you a zip of the installers you need?


14:34:18kaenand showed you how to checkout/update


14:34:19fordcarsohhhh


14:34:23fordcarsYeah


14:34:55kaenbecause that would make less work for everybody involved


14:35:10fordcarsok, done compiling


14:35:31fordcarstadaaaaa


14:37:11fordcarshow do I find the directory of LD_LIBRARY_PATH?


14:37:37kaenthere's actually a few directories it uses


14:37:49kaenusually it checks /lib, /usr/lib, /usr/local/lib in that order


14:37:59kaen/usr/local/lib is for you to put stuff in


14:38:11kaenthe other two are used by distro and system packages


14:38:21fordcarsok


14:38:27fordcarsyeah python's there


14:40:35fordcarsok done


14:40:46fordcarskaen, I recompile Bitfighter?


14:43:32Nothing_Muchfordcars, I don't think you should have to..


14:44:20fordcarsok...


14:44:29amgine123456789thats would be nice


14:45:15kaenamgine123456789, cmake has a zip here http://www.cmake.org/cmake/resources/software.html


14:47:03amgine123456789uh which one


14:47:44fordcarsprobably latest release


14:47:58amgine123456789theres 2 files for windows


14:48:19fordcarsarchive


14:48:22fordcars.zip one


14:48:28fordcarsnot the binary


14:48:34fordcarsI guess :P


14:48:38kaenit says zip in it


14:49:20fordcarscmake-2.8.11.2.zip


14:49:20kaenoh sorry, didn't see that there were two


14:49:22kaenWindows ZIP


14:49:28fordcarsoh


14:49:42kaenno, not that one fc :P


14:49:43kaencmake-2.8.11.2-win32-x86.zip


14:49:55kaenthe one you posted is just the source code


14:50:07amgine123456789link?


14:50:13fordcarsoh ahahaha


14:50:30kaenhttp://www.cmake.org/files/v2.8/cmake-2.8.11.2-win32-x86.zip


14:50:31kaenthere


14:50:58kaenthen you'll need the other installers, which I'm uploading right now


14:51:06amgine123456789ok


14:51:15fordcarskaen, will Bitfighter use glshim automatically?


14:51:19kaenno


14:51:32kaenfordcars, you might have to set the ld path


14:51:40fordcarsok phew


14:51:44kaenLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib ./bitfighter


14:51:57kaen(from the exe directory)


14:52:52fordcarsouch


14:53:03fordcarsERROR: EGL Error detected: EGL_BAD_DISPLAY (0x3008)


14:53:13fordcarsSetting display mode failed: Unable to make GL context current Unable to create EGL display.


14:55:03kaenouch indeed :/


14:55:50fordcarsCanseco supposebly managed to make it work


14:55:53amgine123456789so i have cmake what esle is needed ;)


14:55:56fordcarswith glshim


14:56:11fordcars:)


14:56:12kaenamgine123456789, still trying to upload the zip


14:56:28amgine123456789oh sorry kaen =p


14:58:04Nothing_MuchOh hey fordcars, I see you on bf :D


14:58:22fordcarsHaha


14:58:38amgine123456789btw kaewn what was with the DB error was that solved?


14:58:43fordcarsI was checking if there was somebody online


14:59:07Nothing_MuchThere's a couple


14:59:09kaennope


14:59:16Nothing_MuchHow was the FPS?


14:59:44kaensounds like it refused to run


14:59:57kaenbut, an EGL error means it's glshim's fault not ours


15:00:45kaenok, amgine123456789 try this:


15:00:46kaenhttp://www26.zippyshare.com/v/26689755/file.html


15:00:58fordcarsYeah it didn't want to run


15:00:58kaenit's the big orange button to the right


15:01:09Nothing_MuchAw darn


15:01:39amgine123456789ok cmake mercial and vc


15:01:40fordcarsThere is also Regal


15:03:10fordcarsyeah


15:08:48kaenyou got them all, amgine123456789 ?


15:09:30kaenok, now you have to use the command prompt for some stuff


15:09:31amgine123456789i think so i have the cmake and the file with vc and mercial


15:09:44kaendo you know how to open the command prompt?


15:10:10kaenoh, you have to run those files to install the software


15:10:25kaenso you should have cmake, mercurial, and visual studio in your start menu


15:10:26amgine123456789uh which file


15:10:33amgine123456789ok


15:10:41kaendo you?


15:11:14kaenwell, when you do, here are the instructions:


15:11:39kaenopen the command prompt (hit windows key + r, then type "cmd" without quotes and hit enter)


15:11:50amgine123456789ikm not there yet wait lolz


15:11:56amgine123456789need to extract


15:12:23kaenI'm just going type it all out, and you can scroll up to read it


15:13:18kaenwith the command prompt open, type this (or copy it and paste with the right-click menu in the prompt)


15:13:20kaenhg clone https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/


15:13:30kaenit will take a fairly long time


15:13:34kaenwhen it's done, type


15:13:38kaencd bitfighter/build


15:13:49kaencmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug


15:14:13kaenthen, open visual studio from the start menu


15:14:18amgine123456789lol dont give me instructions ahead of time


15:14:24amgine123456789one step at a time for me


15:14:24kaensorry dude I have to go in a bit


15:14:30amgine123456789ok ill try


15:14:38amgine123456789how to excrat smake


15:14:41kaenok, if it doesn't work I won't be gone very long


15:14:43amgine123456789cmake


15:14:45kaenoh


15:14:53kaenjust extract it like a normal zip file


15:14:56amgine123456789theres like 5 files in cmalke


15:15:01kaenwhat


15:15:39amgine123456789well ussaly if you lick a certin program in teh file it will tell you to excract which one is it


15:15:42kaenohhhhh


15:15:44kaenI see


15:15:52kaenokay, I have to download the normal installer and zip it for you


15:16:07amgine123456789ok?


15:16:15fordcarsRight-click on it, extract?


15:16:16kaensorry, just do visual studio and mercurial


15:16:24kaenfordcars, it's not the right download at all


15:16:27kaenI made a mistake


15:16:28amgine123456789cant do installers


15:16:30fordcarsOh ok


15:16:36kaenyou can't run installers?


15:16:38amgine123456789needs to be kind of a run wihouit downalod program


15:16:44amgine123456789ZIP


15:16:49fordcarsWe ask too much from you kaen ;)


15:16:51amgine123456789yeah or it will be blocked


15:16:57kaenwish I knew that amgine123456789 :/


15:17:07kaenI don't think you can build then


15:17:13amgine123456789ah


15:17:19fordcarsAmgine, ask your parents


15:17:24amgine123456789like teh BF stadnalone which can run without installing


15:17:31amgine123456789lol they will say no


15:17:39fordcarsto unblock


15:17:42fordcars:/


15:18:07amgine123456789if only there was a way i could hack the admin acount of this comptuer and get my install rights back XD


15:18:34kaensafe mode usually works


15:18:45kaennothing more to say on that topic though


15:19:19kaenI already feel guilty enough about being complicit in you evading your parents' block


15:19:26fordcarsSafe mode hah


15:19:55amgine123456789nope tried it XD


15:19:57fordcarsI don't see how an educationnal experience in building an open-source project would be bad though :/


15:20:15kaenme either, but it's not my decision :/


15:20:35fordcars:/


15:20:38amgine123456789actully kaen windows doesnt block zips by default so when your giving me BF zips to try you not evading anything XD


15:22:23amgine123456789besides i want to help beta test and build BF with my ideas


15:22:35fordcarsKean, make a Bitfighter latest source zipper script


15:22:45kaenfordcars, great minds think alike :)


15:22:54amgine123456789but it has to be a standalone version XD


15:22:59fordcarsHaha :)


15:23:02amgine123456789no installers XD


15:23:11kaenI *think* I could make a script to set up a completely standalone build environment


15:23:11Nothing_Muchman


15:23:30kaenbut I have to wait until my girlfriend goes to work so I can use her computer to test it with :P


15:23:42Nothing_Muchlol kaen


15:24:00Nothing_Muchoi, this is such a pain, I think kdenlive keeps crashing my computer :(


15:24:12Nothing_Muchit's that or simplescreenrecorder


15:24:36kaenthe whole computer!?


15:24:38fordcarsoh


15:24:47kaenthat's the kernel's fault my friend


15:25:03Nothing_Muchon older hardware maybe


15:25:04Nothing_Muchit's that


15:25:15Nothing_Muchor maybe it's because I have different types of ram sticks in it


15:25:25Nothing_Muchkernel panics yeah


15:25:31kaenyuck


15:25:37Nothing_Muchit's all I got though :(


15:25:42Nothing_Much5GB DDR2 ram


15:25:44kaen:/


15:26:03fordcars5gb, heh


15:26:43Nothing_Muchat least the intro's done, all I need is more gameplay footage, but since I'm a mediocre player.. maybe I'll just demo the different types of weapons in the game with a level I made :)


15:27:00fordcarsoh Haha


15:27:09Nothing_Much(it's a very basic level with a loadout zone and a wall)


15:27:18fordcarsooOOoo


15:27:57Nothing_Muchright now I'm procrastinating, as in, figuring out whether an arm build of Ubuntu exists for a download or not


15:28:02Nothing_Muchand kdenlive


15:28:21fordcarsIs that the only way?


15:28:31fordcarsWait, you're on arm?


15:28:36Nothing_Muchno no


15:28:41Nothing_MuchI'm just looking it up for the future


15:28:54fordcarsah ok


15:28:56Nothing_MuchI keep jumping across the computers I want to buy whenever I get a chance


15:29:02Nothing_Muchbecause this oldie's gotta go


15:29:13fordcarsGive it to me :D


15:29:15Nothing_Muchit's basically a heater, which is unnecessary, considering I'm in Florida


15:29:21fordcarslol


15:29:42Nothing_MuchI'm gonna need 250$, 350$ if you want the 1440x900 display


15:30:59Nothing_Muchit's not really a bargain though.. just letting you know.. I'm just in a dire situation


15:32:42fordcarsokok


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16:20:41kaenamgine123456789


16:20:43kaenhttp://www9.zippyshare.com/v/9898559/file.html


16:20:55kaenjust overwrite your old standalone's bitfighter.exe


16:21:18fordcarshi


16:21:55kaenhi


16:21:57amgine123456789cannot start because openal32.dll is missing from your computer....


16:22:26kaendid you overwrite your old standalone's bitfighter.exe ?


16:23:56amgine123456789and how would i do that XD


16:24:34kaentake your old bitfighter standalone zip folder


16:24:42kaenthere is a file in it called bitfighter.exe


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16:24:53kaenthen take the bifighter.exe in the zip I just gave you, and copy it to that folder


16:30:49amgine123456789remove the old bitfighter.exe?


16:35:01kaenyep


16:35:03kaenreplace it


16:35:06kaenoverwrite it


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17:25:24fordcarsAlright, decided to go father than javascript and enter the world of C, Learn C the hard way


17:25:38fordcars*farther llo


17:32:16kaenamgine123456789, did it work?


17:32:26amgine123456789sorry i got disctacted


17:32:35amgine123456789*embaressed*


17:33:44kaenlol it's ok


17:34:53amgine123456789ok replaced it now what


17:36:02fordcarsdouble click?


17:36:19amgine123456789i ran it and it worked nothing is different?


17:38:26amgine123456789kaen it ran what did it do


17:42:26kaenif it runs then it worked :P


17:42:35kaenI told it's been a slow month


18:02:08Nothing_Muchfordcars, does the Pi have its own GPU or does the Arm chip have its own OGL thing?


18:02:37fordcarsIt has an Open GL ES accelerated thing


18:03:14Nothing_MuchTryin' to figure out this crap


18:03:25Nothing_MuchSince I can't afford the UX yet


18:03:39Nothing_MuchI just need to see if there's an OGLES thing


18:03:45Nothing_Muchfor the cheaper alternative


18:04:12fordcarsHeh ok :)


18:16:39amgine123456789hmm would it be better to convert BF to java or flash....


18:16:43fordcarsman, I can't do a back slash


18:17:02fordcarsConverting BF to java or flash would be slooooww


18:17:11fordcarsBetter to turn it into Javascript


18:20:14Nothing_Muchamgine123456789, Flash is dying


18:25:08fordcarsyeah


18:25:27fordcarsand you would need sprites and, ugh


18:26:16Nothing_Muchoh god, that'd sound so painful to put together


18:26:20Nothing_MuchI used flash before


18:26:25Nothing_Muchit's okay


18:26:31Nothing_Muchbut goddamn is it tedious


18:44:48kaenactually


18:45:01kaenif bitfighter were written in flash we'd save a TON of engine code


18:45:23kaenbecause flash supports things like vector graphics, GUI elements, and networking in its standard library


18:46:48kaenand because flash's vector rendering is so heavily optimized, and bitfighter rarely if ever drops below the framecap on modern machines, performance would be at least acceptable, maybe even fine


18:47:30Nothing_Muchwell then


18:47:42Nothing_Muchif only flash wasn't such a piece of crap that would always crash at the wrong times


18:47:58kaenyeah


18:48:10kaenif there were solid open implementations it would be a great platform


18:48:15kaenblobs man.


18:48:34Nothing_Muchyeah


18:48:43kaenthat's ok


18:49:09kaenjavascript already has the capability to replace flash in modern browsers


18:49:09Nothing_Muchsince switching to nouveau btw, (I switched from the 304.xx drivers), bitfighter doesn't lag when I move it around in windowed mode


18:49:15kaenah, good


18:49:19Nothing_Muchyeah


18:49:22Nothing_MuchI'm also on mir


18:49:23Nothing_Much:D


18:49:26kaen\o/


18:49:45Nothing_Muchthere's one glitch though, but it happens on images when the cursor is on it


18:50:21Nothing_Muchwhich applies to bitfighter, which is that a small square around the cursor appears and makes it transparent, but only the cursor; the crosshair is fine when aiming


18:50:23Nothing_Muchin game


18:51:23kaencan you take a screenshot?


18:51:40Nothing_Muchit's a Mir/Ubuntu thing


18:51:42kaenand do you mean that it applies to applications besides bitfighter?


18:51:44kaenoh ok


18:51:46Nothing_Muchyeah


18:51:58Nothing_MuchIt applies to images when you move your cursor over them


18:52:13Nothing_Muchjust in case if anybody else uses ubuntu with Mir :o


18:55:58Nothing_Muchhuh.


18:56:08Nothing_MuchI'm reading that OGLES is supported by SDL2


18:56:09Nothing_Much?


18:59:28Nothing_MuchAHA


19:03:23kaenindeed


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19:07:15raptorhowdy folks!


19:07:34raptorI am NOT slacking on my math homework in the library right now...


19:08:30kaenlol


19:08:33kaenhi!


19:08:40kaenI wrote a test for addBot


19:08:43kaenit passes!


19:08:43raptorhi kaen


19:08:49raptorwhoa, really??


19:08:53kaenand wat's client/server testing stuff works :)


19:08:58kaenI'm writing tests for Robot.new() right now


19:09:00raptorthat's great!


19:09:11kaenso LuaLevelGenerator is getting a healthy testability makeover


19:09:25kaenwhich means...


19:09:36kaenwe can test the lua api \o/


19:09:38raptorwhich means...


19:09:46raptoroh boy


19:09:55kaenheh


19:09:57raptorit's like...  our codebase is growing up or something...


19:10:15kaenafter no small amount of growing pains


19:11:08raptorwow, lots of logs...  anything special I need to know?


19:11:32kaennope


19:11:41kaenjust everybody crying for wat to get back


19:11:53raptorha


19:12:03Nothing_Muchhe'll be back soon


19:12:31raptorso I keep picking away at the oglconsole thingy...  I'm almost tempted to just drop converting it and maybe just enable BF_NO_CONSOLE for GLES builds


19:13:02kaenI would support that decision


19:13:10kaenGLES support is definitely still experimental in 019


19:13:35raptorI have it converted to GLES and using font-stash, and it prints to the screen, but lines are backwards and I'm having troubles with the matrices


19:14:02kaenwhoa


19:14:08kaenbackwards


19:14:17raptorwell


19:14:27raptorsorry, not mirrored or anythin


19:14:38raptorjust printing in reverse order from the top of the screen instead of the bottom...


19:14:56raptorand I haven't even begun to merge it with Console.cpp, despite my grandiose plans...


19:14:57kaenah ok


19:15:27kaenwhooaaa this is nuts


19:15:40kaenwat's client/server stuff is randomly passing/failing


19:15:46raptoroooo


19:15:52raptorthat means...  memory problems!


19:15:56raptoror threading!


19:16:03kaenmaybe it's the threading


19:16:26kaenI know gtest has an option to run tests in a thread, although I think it's off by defaultr


19:17:29kaenderp


19:17:38kaenactually it specifically never runs tests in threads


19:17:43kaendoesn't even have an option


19:18:10raptortime to code in random sleep functions!


19:21:20kaenit's failing about 20% of the time


19:21:33kaenthis is a troubling turn of events


19:21:44raptorhmmm


19:23:25raptorit's been a while since I've run the tests, let me compile them...


19:25:26raptorfirst run, everything passes


19:25:43raptoroh wait, did you check these in?


19:26:08raptorooops  BfTest.ClientServerInteraction  failed


19:27:06raptorran it 20 times - 7 failed


19:27:59kaenthat's the one


19:43:23amgine123456789so kaen what does that program do oyu gave me


19:43:36kaenbitfighter.exe?


19:44:03kaenthe other stuff is just a bunch of programs for getting and building the dev version


19:44:18kaentools needed to build bitfighter


19:45:05kaenmercurial is our "version control" tool, cmake is our "build system", and visual studio is a official windows IDE, which we use for its comiler


19:45:07kaencompiler


19:45:43amgine123456789no that .exde you gave me


19:45:54kaenthat's just the actual bitfighter program


19:46:52kaenI built you a copy, and you just reused all of the other stuff it depends on


19:47:06kaenspecifically the .dll files


19:47:54kaenthat .exe file is what the computer generates when we "compile" a.k.a. "build" bitfighter


19:48:12amgine123456789so it runs the new build whne executed?


19:48:17kaenyes


19:48:25kaenit *is* the new build


19:59:42fordcarsoh hi


20:00:50fordcarsWow, you'll be able to add bots now, in level gens! addBot(SentinelBot, player coords)


20:02:29kaenactually


20:02:37kaenbf:addItem(Robot.new())


20:03:28fordcarspffff ok ;)#


20:03:48fordcarsI'm haing fun with C, trying out Math


20:04:25kaenoh boy!


20:04:53fordcars:P


20:08:35kaenhere's a fun one, fordcars:


20:08:36kaenprintf("%s\n", 1/5 == .2 ? "true" : "false");


20:09:27raptorha!


20:10:11kaenso, lualevelgenerator is a little hairy


20:10:41kaenit has no way of loading code to execute without actually having a level file


20:11:05kaeneven the environment initialization will abort without a file


20:11:36kaenso I get probably 80


20:11:42fordcarskaen, whhhhat? false


20:11:44kaen% of the way through the environment setup


20:11:52kaenfordcars, floating point arithmetic


20:12:54kaenanyway, I was adding a bunch of branches until I realized that it really just needs a method just for this purpose


20:13:14kaenand that the structure of the code as-is really does require a file on disk


20:13:51kaen(and obviously when testing we want to be able to pass in arbitrary code in the test)


20:14:32fordcarsooohhhhh okokokok


20:17:18kaenraptor, how are we packing the notifier in 019?


20:18:07fordcarsHah still working on that?


20:18:14kaenare we just going to use py2exe or whatever?


20:18:41kaencracatoa posted an exact description of the notifier in the forums xD


20:19:14raptori say we don't


20:19:18kaenI kind of think we should add it as an option in the installer


20:19:19raptori was never for packing the notifier


20:19:22kaenah


20:19:34kaenis it unstable still?


20:19:37raptorbecause it would add significant size...  AND cross-platfrom junk


20:19:50kaeninteresting


20:19:53raptori'd say it's semi-stable, but requires features


20:20:01kaenI guess you'd need to ship a gui lib?


20:20:04raptorit all in the tools repo


20:20:06raptorno


20:20:18raptorI got it compile on all platforms without that


20:20:39raptorbut it requires the python intepreter on windows at the least, which adds ~2-3 MB


20:21:05raptoron Linux/OSX it's tiny, and dynamically searches for the correct GUI lib


20:21:47raptorI wrote instructions in the repo on how to use it with pywin32 bindings or some such...  I don't even know if it'll work on Win64


20:24:20kaenI can't seem to find those instructions, only notes.txt


20:25:22raptorfor windows?


20:25:26raptoryes, the notes


20:25:41raptori guess they're not step-by-step...


20:25:48raptor(it's been a while)


20:25:50kaenlooks like a list of todo's


20:25:51kaenhttps://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/bitfighter-notifier/notes.txt?repo=tools


20:26:21raptorwhoa!  where are my notes??


20:26:57raptorok


20:27:01raptorthey're in-code:  https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/bitfighter-notifier/main_windows.py?repo=tools


20:27:14raptorand:  https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/bitfighter-notifier/pyinstaller/main_windows.spec?repo=tools


20:27:31raptorsorry - those are pretty lame instructions


20:30:05kaeninteresting


20:30:46kaen2-3 mb is significant, but I think the potential impact of everybody having this notifier is greater


20:31:13kaener, outweighs the cost


20:32:49raptorwell, it kind of needs development still...   and I think the osx port has a thread blocking issue on older osx


20:36:12raptorbut maybe we only need the windows one to begin with?


20:37:36raptorI don't even know how I would being packaging OSX...  we may need an entirely separate .app


20:50:00kaenjust the windows one is a good start


20:50:29kaenI think it'd be pretty easy for linux, of course


20:51:59raptoroh yeah, in fact...   the INI that is with it could just go into the python script...


20:52:18raptorI split scripts out to share functionality, but it doesn't need to be that way...


20:54:57fordcarsraptor, you could make Bitfighter notifier into a widget


20:55:03fordcarson Mac


20:57:19raptorI could also eat a dozen raw eggs for breakfast


20:57:33raptorsorry, that was snarky


20:57:39raptor(too much math...)


20:57:57fordcarsHahaha


20:58:16raptorI haven't done that much research into it...


20:58:33fordcarsRemember when I discovered it was coded in javascript?


20:58:46fordcarslol


20:58:57kaenthe little language that could...


20:59:06fordcarsMaybe I could do it when I get the time


20:59:08fordcarslol


21:01:48fordcarsHave you guys seen my latest javascript project :) 10.0.1.99:1601/atc


21:02:13fordcarsNo input yet, though


21:05:43fordcarsoh lol


21:06:03fordcarshewett.qc.to/atc


21:15:57Nothing_MuchHey everyone


21:17:05Nothing_MuchThe homepage is giving me weird downloads of the end of the videos on the bitfighter home page.


21:17:15Nothing_Much*The end of the video url's


21:19:43kaenI'm not sure what you mean, Nothing_Much


21:19:49Nothing_MuchGo on the homepage


21:19:52kaenI'm there


21:20:03kaenwhat next?


21:20:06Nothing_MuchRefresh?


21:20:28kaenall seems well


21:20:48Nothing_MuchOhh


21:20:53Nothing_MuchIt's Firefox lol


21:20:57kaenhmm


21:21:01kaenstill that's no good


21:21:50kaeniceweasel 17.0.8 works fine


21:22:12Nothing_MuchI think some of my addons or possibly Greasemonkey is doing something weird


21:22:29kaenah


21:23:29Nothing_Mucheyeah, something's gone wrong with my firefox, even nightly isn't doing the thing FF is doing o.o


21:25:30Nothing_Muchnow, I found an article somewhere that SDL2 supports OGLES


21:25:44Nothing_Muchor is that false?


21:29:59fordcarsNight guys, off to bed


21:30:42fordcarsNight!


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21:33:55Nothing_Much_Bah


21:34:56kaenHA!


21:34:58kaenAHAHHAHA


21:34:58kaenHAHHA


21:35:27kaen[ RUN      ] RobotTest.luaRobotNew


21:35:27kaen[       OK ] RobotTest.luaRobotNew (73 ms)


21:35:35raptorheh


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21:35:45kaenfinally


21:35:57raptorI should actually learn the test suite...  you guys are leaving me behind...


21:36:04Nothing_Much_ is now known as Nothing_Much


21:36:08kaenread my tests...


21:36:14kaenwat's still... adjusting to the paradigm


21:36:20raptorheh


21:37:18kaenbut we're leaps and bounds ahead of where we were


21:39:29BFLogBot Commit: 4d003c9cbf0f | Author: kaen  | Message: make LuaLevelGenerator usable without a file on disk, and add test for Robot.new()


21:40:55kaenderp... only passes if you filter for just that test


21:48:03BFLogBot Commit: fe633c74ec60 | Author: kaen  | Message: clear lua script cache on GamePair teardown


21:48:05BFLogBot Commit: e2913ee34981 | Author: kaen  | Message: clean up RobotTest


21:49:49amgine123456789can we add a message after downaloding to  the DB and in inscxrustion to fin the levels there??


21:50:05amgine123456789the link to the DB server


21:53:00BFLogBot Commit: fdd011b927f9 | Author: kaen  | Message: add test for Robot:removeFromGame


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22:14:50kaenok, mDisableCollisionCount is my new arch nemesis


22:15:25kaenI get Robot.new() working in main(), then it triggers an assert when called outside of main


22:15:32kaenI get it working outside of main, and it breaks in main


22:17:43raptori het that the other day with something...


22:17:45raptor*hit


22:18:58kaenin fact the whole system is fundamentally flawed


22:19:22raptorI think that's there to reduce CPU processing on...  client?


22:19:26kaenisCollisionEnabled() returns true only when mDisabledCollisionCount == 0


22:19:38kaenit's server-side too


22:19:58kaenbut disableCollision only triggers an assert when the count > 10


22:20:28kaenso you are allowed to make a few too many disableCollision calls, but it will still actually break the system


22:20:43raptorhuh


22:21:01kaenthe whole thing is bonkers...


22:21:30kaenif you want the collision in a specific state, you should make the call


22:21:37raptorsometimes I get the feeling that the GarageGames guys sort of stopped in the middle of a few implementations...


22:22:40raptorok, heading home...


22:22:48raptorI might have time tomorrow to work on bitfighter!


22:23:23raptornight!


22:23:45raptor Quit ()


22:51:45amgine123456789goodnight see ya monday


22:51:49amgine123456789 Quit (Quit: Page closed)


23:22:43Nothing_MuchMonday?


23:22:51Nothing_MuchBut tomorrow's Sunday!


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