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IRC Log for 2014-01-17

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00:09:05Darrel Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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00:40:22raptorman, python is great. a bit wordier than perl, but less so than most others
00:40:32raptorand no semicolon!
01:11:29BFLogBot Commit: 86f4ddbe6723 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Improve messages when changing loadout
01:11:31BFLogBot Commit: 08ccda6d89c7 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Improve inline help for how to chat
01:11:32BFLogBot Commit: b66051bc0255 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Formatting
01:11:34BFLogBot Commit: 2d6f005c5c37 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Change signature of listToString to accept a string separator --> cleaner, more flexible code
01:11:35BFLogBot Commit: 73f4248b2046 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Implement showing presets on Loadout menu (Issue 296). Mostly done, maybe a little more animation would be good, maybe not. Feedback welcome.
01:11:37BFLogBot Commit: c58e3452853a | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge
01:11:44Watusimoto_it's great until you get an invisible error
01:11:57Watusimoto_or you try to make something complex with it
01:12:16Watusimoto_or you want to find your errors without running every branch of the program
01:12:57Watusimoto_but yeah, it's ok
01:13:00raptorsounds like experience is talking... i admit i haven't run into much of those yet...
01:13:18Watusimoto_a bit. it's not bad for scripting and short programs
01:13:25Watusimoto_lots of good library support
01:13:42Watusimoto_anyway... good night!
01:13:54raptornight!
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04:41:07fordcarsHi
04:44:01fordcarsLater, brb
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07:40:27ozbfThat notifier is buggy
07:40:38ozbfit says chumpchange is on for the past hour or so when oone is on.
07:40:39ozbfnoone*
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16:37:22bobdaduck019a soon?
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17:00:35bobdaduckguess not
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17:08:16watusimotohi
17:09:06watusimotowe would like to do the release soon
17:09:24watusimotoI've been working on cases, and will continue to do so
17:09:36watusimotowe need to either resolve all of them or push them off to 019b
17:09:41watusimotoall the cases marked 019a
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17:21:17bobdaducksorry I'm just impatient
17:21:32bobdaduck019 literally broke every single one of my levels so I can't actually host or play the game until 019a
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17:23:28bobdaduckI *could* fix a few of them, the breaks are often things like getTeamIndx() is now getTeamIndex()
17:23:56bobdaduckbut there's also plenty of larger crashes like the one raptor fixed for DnD which I don't have power over
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17:34:33raptorgood day!
17:47:37raptorDnD must be saved
17:48:50raptorbobdaduck: want an 019a beta release?
17:59:05bobdaduckNo point
17:59:08bobdaduckI can still work on DnD
17:59:17bobdaduckI just can't actually host it or let other people play it.
18:11:41raptor is on a warnings hunt
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18:26:55QuartzySIGH https://www.bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&p=22366
18:27:05QuartzyPeople can't take a joke :P
18:27:20raptorsay what
18:27:31Quartzyclick it. click it good.
18:27:55raptorhahaha
18:28:44QuartzyIf people are gonna be jealous instead of laughing it should probably be gotten rid of pretty soon here XP
18:29:03raptoryou'll have to take that up with the mod who started it...
18:29:06raptor glares around
18:29:14Quartzyhahaha
18:29:19Quartzybobdaduck check it
18:29:35bobdaducklol
18:30:07bobdaduckYeah okay
18:30:20bobdaduckI'll make it so the group doesn't have a color but leave the group.
18:30:28QuartzyHah ok
18:30:36QuartzyI think people are still gonna be envious though
18:31:11bobdaduckPeople are also envious of my rad mapmaking skillz
18:31:21QuartzyxD
18:32:11raptorI decided to give th abadge out to sky_lark for most-improved
18:32:11raptor*the badge
18:32:11Quartzywell ... yes, he won it did he not.
18:32:26raptorI wasn't sure before... in case I won it
18:32:35Quartzyahh
18:32:48raptorbecause I can give myself any badge I want... at any time
18:32:48QuartzyThey're different badges for this contest than the other one yeah?
18:33:00raptorsadly no - only 1 was created
18:33:02bobdaduckI'm pretty sure there's just one "contest winner" badge
18:33:06Quartzyhmm
18:33:13Quartzythat may have to be fixed, later
18:33:15raptorbut maybe I should consider doing different winning badges...
18:33:31Quartzyyea I think this one could warrant a couple different badges especially since we plan on repeating this theme once in a while
18:33:48raptorhow to even draw 'most improved'
18:33:53Quartzyidk
18:34:08Quartzyjust put a phaser on a barriermaker
18:34:13QuartzyInstead of a 1 on a barriermaker
18:34:13QuartzyxD
18:34:19raptorhah
18:34:48raptori think sky_lark's badges are overflowing in the scoreboard now...
18:35:36Quartzyhaha and he doesn't even have all of them.
18:35:36bobdaduckthe amount of surprised that I am.
18:35:36QuartzyHAHA
18:35:37QuartzyI'm sensing a little sarcasm!
18:35:37BFLogBot Commit: 03659c9cceef | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix lots of warnings
18:40:15raptor90% of the difficulty of new badges is drawing them...
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18:41:02QuartzySeriously.
18:41:03QuartzyThat's not hard xD
18:41:03bobdaduckbrb....
18:41:03QuartzyIf you really want I can help you with that
18:45:55raptorpart of the problem is that it needs to be drawn with lines or dots
18:46:03raptoror polygons
18:46:19raptorbasically anything with 'line parts'
18:46:47QuartzyVector graphics.
18:46:53raptoryes
18:47:07raptori should have just said that
18:47:09QuartzySo what does your process currently look like?
18:47:33raptorbadge idea -> randomly draw in the editor until I get something i like -> put in code
18:48:28QuartzyOK nice
18:48:29QuartzyThat's plenty easy
18:48:36QuartzyI could certainly help you with that.
18:48:36raptoroh... i forgot that it needs to shrink to be tiny and still recognizable
18:48:37QuartzyYep. Understood.
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18:52:07raptori actually draw it with lines in the editor, then convert the .level file into code using some text editor magic
18:52:23Watusimotohellp
18:52:26Quartzymhm
18:52:57QuartzyWhat size do you normally draw at initially? I mean obviously if it's vector graphics you can up and down scale it as you please but it still might be helpful to know how you start it
18:52:57Watusimotoraptor, sam686: have either of you taken a look at the loadout menu enhancements?
18:53:20Watusimotowhat's this? Quartzy taking level design tips?
18:53:29Quartzylol no. badge design.
18:53:36raptorlet me get you a level...
18:53:56QuartzyThat said if you want to make fun of me just mention my levelgen abilities xD I have zero
18:56:25raptorQuartzy: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/rabidrabbit.level
18:56:34QuartzyRobot 0 orbitbot.bot LOL
18:56:49raptoryeah yeah...... i has some other extraneous garbage in it
18:56:59raptorhi Watusimoto
18:57:02raptorlooking now...
18:57:55raptorWatusimoto: what am I looking for? I don't see any changes
18:57:56Quartzyyes yes I see I see!
18:58:03Watusimotohit z twice
18:58:03QuartzyThanks raptor. I will try and help you with badges.
18:58:22raptorWHOA
18:58:25raptorthat's great!
18:58:31raptorthanks Quartzy
18:58:36raptorWatusimoto: that looks really good
18:58:55Watusimotogood, glad you like it
18:59:02WatusimotoI want to work on the transitions a little
18:59:09Watusimotobut I think it is a good enhancement
18:59:21WatusimotoI only wish there were a good way to enable it for joystick users
19:00:04raptorthere isn't?
19:00:24Watusimotono
19:00:25raptorcan't joystick users just use the loadout menu button twice?
19:00:30Watusimotono
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19:00:40Watusimotowhat is the loadout button? (2) or soemthing?
19:00:55Watusimotothey hit that, and then the next time they hit (2), they get module 2
19:01:07raptorah
19:02:02Watusimotomaybe we could overload the "back" button to switch to the presets menu before closing altogether, but that is kind of weird
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19:08:06raptorwe have some funny player names on now...
19:08:11raptorprobably that canadian tech school
19:08:42raptorand they're all on 018a
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19:23:21QuartzyOK so raptor
19:23:29QuartzyHow do you designate an area to be filled in a color?
19:24:46raptorah, you can use teams
19:24:47raptoractually - i do the colors last
19:24:47Quartzyyes but I have noticed some of the badges
19:24:49Quartzyare filled in a color
19:24:52Quartzywhile others stay as lines
19:24:54raptorah yes
19:25:00raptoryou can use a loadout zone
19:25:09Quartzyok
19:25:24raptorbut that is actually something I have to specifically do in the code: apply fill
19:25:35Quartzygot it
19:26:02QuartzyDoes it suffer from the same issue as loadout zones? Wherein if you actually surround a piece with load out to where it wraps around it explodes?
19:27:40raptori'm not sure I fully understand you..
19:28:04Quartzyuhh ok say I make a loadout zone
19:28:05QuartzyThat is shaped like a donut!
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19:28:05raptori can apply fill to polygons when drawing
19:28:05QuartzyIf you do that, it sorta freaks out
19:28:05raptorah
19:28:05raptoryeah - i'd have to make two polygons and split it in half
19:28:05QuartzyUnless of course you make two half donuts and put them together manually, that works.
19:28:05raptordonuts are evil
19:28:05QuartzyOK excelelnt, I will do that.
19:28:06raptorbut i can layer circles
19:28:06raptorwhich is even easier in-code
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19:29:35raptorWatusimoto: I just spent 20 min. on the canadian high school server
19:29:41raptorthey let me talk to them for a bit
19:29:51Watusimotogreat!
19:30:15raptorthey said they only half their computers updated to 019, and that they use the portable versions
19:30:17raptoralso that they've been playing bitfighter for years
19:30:17Watusimotogreat!
19:30:17raptorand they have tournaments every friday
19:31:20raptorand they thanked us for the game; I told them to stop by the channel if they ever have suggestions, etc.
19:31:59Watusimotogood stalk... er sleuthing!
19:32:00raptoryeah well... i was specifically asked in-game: "who's raptor?"
19:32:03raptorand i had like 350 ping
19:32:12Watusimotoha
19:32:15raptoreveryone else had 12-18
19:32:56Quartzynoice
19:33:15Watusimotoyou should have picked a sneaker name... like "simons mom" or "jims butt" or soemthing
19:33:17Watusimotosneakier
19:34:16raptormy favorite was "joseph stalins twin"
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19:36:58Watusimotogreat... at least they're learning history
19:36:59Watusimotosort of
19:37:00raptorthis school tends to have 'cleaner' names... i think it's a private school
19:37:00Quartzylololo bad assumption
19:37:00QuartzyBut possible.
19:37:00raptorheh, probably true...
19:37:01QuartzyI went to a private school. I would have probably chosen something inappropriate. But that's me xD
19:37:01raptorthe assumption is based on the fact that there's no public school in existence that wouldn't take that liberty...
19:37:01Quartzywut
19:37:30raptor(my experiences in public jai... schools)
19:37:32QuartzyxD
19:40:31SkybaxHi
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19:55:21raptorhi
19:58:49Watusimotoit's a canadian school -- there's your explanation!
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20:08:04raptori thin i fixed seeker targetting in rabbit
20:08:49raptoryou're not working on that one, are you Watusimoto?
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20:23:01raptorseeker acquisition is happening each tick...
20:25:17bobdaduckI still say it would be really cool if seeker knockback/explosion happened only in a cone in front of it
20:26:12raptoroh... huh
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20:26:16raptorlooks like someone add code to force it to recheck each time...
20:27:23bobdaduckThat means that it will constantly go for whoever gets closest to it, as opposed to locking and chasing a single target, yes?
20:27:42raptoryes, but there is a lot of other processing that goes on here...
20:37:32BFLogBot Commit: 8987591b9f85 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix seeker targetting teammates in team-rabbit. Also fix minor bug with acquiring targets after the object was deleted
20:37:50raptoroops, not 'team-rabbit', just 'rabbit'
20:38:19raptoranother bug down!
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21:16:16bobdaduckthat feeling you get when you solve a tough problem at work and your coworkers reward you with cake
21:22:19raptorit was worth it!
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22:19:05BFLogBot Commit: 40f87afcd40e | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Seekers now don't try and acquire a target every tick. Slowed to roughly every 100ms to save processing power
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22:44:50Watusimotoraptor, sam686 I need some feedback
22:45:16WatusimotoI implemented a new animation for the extended loadout menu, that handles the transition between normal and preset mode
22:45:33WatusimotoI'm not sure I like it, and want to get some feedback before i spend more time cleaning up the code
22:46:01Watusimotoso I'm checking the new animation in
22:46:08BFLogBot Commit: 5952510a677f | Author: watusimoto | Message: Lament
22:46:09BFLogBot Commit: 816431cacce3 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Not quite right, but need feedback
22:46:11BFLogBot Commit: 03d39b689e5f | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge
22:46:19Watusimotoand to make it easier to compare, you can cycle through the menus with the Z key to see the animations
22:46:32Watusimotobut if you hold down shift, the animation in question is disabled
22:46:53Watusimototo be clear, it is only the animation between the normal and the extended menu that is in question
22:58:59bobdaduckship:setCollisionCircleDiameter(diameter)
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23:26:48amgineasup
23:26:55amgineahey raptor new problem
23:27:02amgineadid you see my link yesterday
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23:55:28raptorhi Watusimoto
23:55:31raptori'll take a look
23:56:41amgineauh
23:56:55amginearaptor there is a new issua idn if you saw my link yesterday
23:56:55raptoramginea: what link?
23:57:05amgineai posted it yesterday
23:57:08amgineaum hold on
23:57:56amgineahttp://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1525&p=22332#p22332
23:57:57raptorWatusimoto: I think the transition is fine...
23:58:05amgineaalso added it to issues btw raptor
23:58:12raptorah, the norton issue
23:58:32raptoramginea: no one thought you we're lying. but we do think norton is lying
23:58:47amginealol
23:58:55amgineaim going to quote that somwhere
23:59:37amgineaim about to uninstall norton antivirus

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