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| 00:00:04 | Watusimoto | 1 maybe if 2 |
| 00:00:17 | raptor | start a dedicated server, it opens an admin console on a TCP port |
| 00:00:33 | raptor | edit server thingies remotely with a mouse |
| 00:00:34 | Watusimoto | I'll check in my quick password menu hack -- not well tested, but it looks good, and kind of makes sense |
| 00:00:48 | Watusimoto | I have an idea to sex it up a bit... I'll try that tomorrow |
| 00:01:09 | raptor | is that an adjective now? man, i gotta pay more attention to 'culture'... |
| 00:01:35 | Watusimoto | it's a UX term |
| 00:01:44 | Quartzy | "sex it up a bit," that's something I can get behind. |
| 00:01:48 | raptor | what did the math book tell the pencil? |
| 00:01:55 | Watusimoto | good lord... what |
| 00:01:56 | raptor | I have a lot of problems |
| 00:02:16 | Watusimoto | you need to pay more attention to 'culture' |
| 00:02:24 | raptor | it should be late enough there that that should be funny... |
| 00:02:26 | raptor | :) |
| 00:02:27 | Quartzy | What did the constipated mathmatician do? |
| 00:02:39 | Quartzy | He worked it out with a pencil. |
| 00:02:45 | Watusimoto | good grief |
| 00:02:49 | | BFLogBot Commit: 68c6a3e2a1a3 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Move passwords to their own submenu |
| 00:03:08 | raptor | and with that.... heading home! |
| 00:03:11 | Watusimoto | I think this brings the hosting menu back down to a usable size, even with playback entry there |
| 00:03:13 | Quartzy | hahaha peace |
| 00:03:25 | Watusimoto | will review tomorrow |
| 00:03:30 | Watusimoto | night all! |
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| 00:03:41 | Watusimoto | and remind me never to borrow Quartzy's pencil |
| 00:04:24 | Quartzy | oh deer. |
| 00:04:27 | Quartzy | *dear lolz. |
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| 01:54:21 | raptor | duplicated the quartzy bug! |
| 01:54:24 | raptor | (again) |
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| 02:19:36 | raptor | kaen: you here? |
| 02:20:19 | raptor | quartz' bug is because the sendRequest() while loop is timing out before all bytes are sent... |
| 02:21:44 | fordcars | Anaglyph 3d is fun |
| 02:21:48 | fordcars | -fordcars |
| 02:22:12 | raptor | is that a game? |
| 02:22:45 | fordcars | Haha, sounds like a game, huh:P |
| 02:22:53 | fordcars | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_3D |
| 02:23:01 | fordcars | red-cyan glasses FTW |
| 02:23:36 | fordcars | I just wrote a simple javascript that moves around and changes depth of some lines drawn on a canvas |
| 02:39:39 | raptor | neat! |
| 02:44:00 | fordcars | Hehe :P |
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| 02:55:38 | ozbf | Love the new font. |
| 02:57:31 | | BFLogBot Commit: eb1fd429f419 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix bug with sending levels to Pleiades that are greater than 76800 bytes |
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| 03:17:16 | raptor | ok, now there's a bug in receiving HTTP data, too... |
| 03:19:55 | raptor | looks like we ca only receive up to 30720 bytes or so.. |
| 03:19:58 | raptor | *can |
| 03:48:49 | | BFLogBot Commit: ba112545b3dc | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix bug with downloading levels from Pleiades larger than 245760 bytes. Don't make levels so big! |
| 03:55:02 | raptor | ok, if quartzy shows up, here is his new build: ftp://ftp.novell.com/outgoing/Bitfighter-019a-beta-OSX-Intel-32bit-9350-ba112545b3dc.zip |
| 03:55:11 | raptor | i'll be back shortly |
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| 03:59:56 | raptor | Quartzy: I'll be back later, but as promised: ftp://ftp.novell.com/outgoing/Bitfighter-019a-beta-OSX-Intel-32bit-9350-ba112545b3dc.zip |
| 04:00:10 | raptor | and thanks for testing! |
| 04:05:04 | ozbf | What's the font called? |
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| 04:18:14 | ozbf | . |
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| 04:27:10 | Quartzy | thank you sir |
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| 06:43:45 | fordcars | Hi |
| 06:43:55 | fordcars | I think I should go to bed soon :X |
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| 13:04:13 | jimmythesquid | Hello? |
| 13:04:34 | jimmythesquid | Anyone around? |
| 13:06:44 | sam686 | hi |
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| 13:12:59 | Nothing_Much | hey jimmythesquid |
| 13:13:17 | Nothing_Much | just hang out for a little bit, someone else should be active soon |
| 13:13:33 | Nothing_Much | cuz I gotta leave in 5 seconds |
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| 15:55:41 | jimmythesquid | Hello |
| 15:55:45 | jimmythesquid | Anyone around? |
| 16:20:16 | jimmythesquid | No? |
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| 16:29:50 | watusimoto | hi |
| 16:29:55 | watusimoto | hi jimmythesquid |
| 16:29:58 | watusimoto | I am around |
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| 16:35:51 | jimmythesquid | Oh, hi |
| 16:36:00 | watusimoto | hi |
| 16:36:38 | jimmythesquid | I'm not sure if you remember, you guys asked on reddit a while ago about a site redesign and I did some static redesign pictures. |
| 16:36:45 | watusimoto | yes, I remember |
| 16:37:00 | watusimoto | here is what has happened since you last stopped by |
| 16:37:04 | watusimoto | nothing |
| 16:37:14 | jimmythesquid | I just finished studying jquery so I built the website as something to do: |
| 16:37:23 | jimmythesquid | http://georgepayne.co.uk/bitfighter/bitfighter.html |
| 16:37:52 | jimmythesquid | I might make a couple of changes though, I've had a thought since I finished. |
| 16:38:12 | watusimoto | of the main devs who voiced an opinion, two were definitly in favor of your design, and one (me) was ambivilent (I like your design, but also like the current webpage) |
| 16:38:54 | watusimoto | but then no one really got the screenshots together for you |
| 16:39:23 | watusimoto | and we lost momentum, got sidelined by a release, and then... |
| 16:39:40 | watusimoto | jquery is pretty cool, I have to say! |
| 16:39:51 | jimmythesquid | Well, I got two screenshots and I used them |
| 16:40:15 | jimmythesquid | If you refresh it there are two versions that randomise. |
| 16:40:28 | watusimoto | yes, I see it |
| 16:41:48 | watusimoto | so are we still working with the idea that the "soccer" text and the bg picture will change on a timer like a slideshow? |
| 16:42:34 | jimmythesquid | Yeah, I did have it working but the transition wasn't very smooth. I'm redoing it a bit better now though. |
| 16:44:21 | watusimoto | raptor will be on in a while, and I'll see if he still wants to move forward. Since we dropped the ball, I figured you had moved on to other stuff |
| 16:44:28 | watusimoto | I was a bit surprised to see you back! :-) |
| 16:47:02 | jimmythesquid | Well, I had really, but after I finished and I had a bit of downtime I was looking for something to do, came across the old files and decided to build it, even if it was just for fun and wasn't used. |
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| 17:08:15 | raptor | of course, one of the side effects of fixing those bugs last night is that 019 clients won't be able to download Quartz' maps if they're over ~200K |
| 17:08:41 | watusimoto | we should bump to 020 |
| 17:10:05 | raptor | and good day! |
| 17:10:19 | raptor | only if it's the *last* commit... |
| 17:10:21 | watusimoto | hi |
| 17:10:46 | raptor | hi |
| 17:10:52 | watusimoto | btw, raptor, do you know how to contact koda? |
| 17:11:04 | raptor | i talk to him every-once-in-a-while |
| 17:11:22 | raptor | if he's not here, then he's usually not online, but maybe he's on #hedgewars |
| 17:11:34 | watusimoto | I'm going to that conference that I didn't meet him at last year, and want to see if he's going this year |
| 17:11:34 | raptor | question for him? |
| 17:11:47 | raptor | oh cool |
| 17:12:31 | jimmythesquid | Hi raptor |
| 17:12:37 | raptor | hi jimmythesquid |
| 17:12:47 | raptor | we totally dropped the ball on the web site design |
| 17:12:51 | raptor | and I'm sorry |
| 17:13:09 | jimmythesquid | I'm not sure if you remember a while ago you guys asked on reddit a while ago about a site redesign and I did some static redesign pictures. |
| 17:13:15 | raptor | yes |
| 17:13:20 | watusimoto | man, there's a lot of people on the #hegewars channel... no koda, but Darrel is there :-) |
| 17:13:35 | jimmythesquid | I decided to build the site because I had nothing else to do. |
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| 17:13:47 | jimmythesquid | http://georgepayne.co.uk/bitfighter/bitfighter.html |
| 17:14:16 | raptor | OOOoooo parallax! |
| 17:15:01 | jimmythesquid | Yeah, sadly that comes at the cost of the background changing as a slideshow. |
| 17:15:02 | raptor | wait... there's like real text there! |
| 17:15:56 | jimmythesquid | I can't get it to change smoothly enough that its not distracting. |
| 17:16:08 | jimmythesquid | It looks horrible if I'm honest. |
| 17:16:15 | jimmythesquid | So I suggest just ditching it. |
| 17:16:34 | jimmythesquid | at the moment the background is random but I only have two maps. |
| 17:16:47 | raptor | did you use a theming/template system? |
| 17:17:01 | raptor | like bootstrap or something similar? |
| 17:17:12 | jimmythesquid | No, I wrote it from scratch. |
| 17:17:27 | raptor | oh wow |
| 17:17:40 | jimmythesquid | I used unsemantic framework but I actually am going to cut it out its not being used. |
| 17:18:13 | raptor | could you use more big screenshots? |
| 17:18:55 | raptor | i think i still have the code somewhere to export those.. |
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| 17:20:42 | wokparty | hey, around what time are there lots of people playing? |
| 17:20:46 | jimmythesquid | Well, do you want to use the website? |
| 17:21:00 | raptor | hi wokparty |
| 17:21:00 | jimmythesquid | I just made it for fun, don't feel obliged to use it. |
| 17:21:19 | watusimoto | we should create a page showing a graph of play times |
| 17:21:27 | raptor | usually in the evenings, more frequently towards the end of the week |
| 17:21:33 | watusimoto | US time |
| 17:21:43 | wokparty | eastern time? |
| 17:21:48 | raptor | kaen may be able to do that with his spiffy new stats redesign |
| 17:22:24 | watusimoto | wokparty: the majority of our players are scattered across the US; no particular time zone |
| 17:22:37 | watusimoto | we have a notifier widget you can run to see when players join |
| 17:22:46 | watusimoto | it comes with the game |
| 17:23:02 | wokparty | oh sweet, i'll use that and i might show up sometime |
| 17:23:11 | watusimoto | are you on windows? |
| 17:23:18 | wokparty | yup |
| 17:23:34 | watusimoto | the norifier has a problem and needs to be restarted after you put your machine to sleep |
| 17:23:40 | watusimoto | it looks like its working, but isn't |
| 17:24:09 | wokparty | oh ok, i'll take that into account |
| 17:24:19 | watusimoto | jsut something to be aware of |
| 17:24:32 | wokparty | well that's all I wanted to know, see you guys around |
| 17:25:59 | raptor | jimmythesquid: I do like the design; however, we need to actually decide if we want to apply it to a CMS (like wordpress) or go with static HTML or do... nothing :-/ |
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| 17:31:32 | jimmythesquid | If you like, i could set it up so that the bits you want to edit are in iframes, so that they link to a cms within themselves for you to change things. |
| 17:31:45 | jimmythesquid | I'm not sure if I explained that well. |
| 17:32:26 | jimmythesquid | But I mean, the text within the frontpage could be linked to another webpage so that it can be easily updated. |
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| 18:10:59 | jimmythesquid | There, done it. |
| 18:11:07 | jimmythesquid | So now the text on the main page; |
| 18:11:13 | jimmythesquid | http://georgepayne.co.uk/bitfighter/bitfighter.html |
| 18:11:21 | jimmythesquid | is coming from: |
| 18:11:33 | jimmythesquid | http://georgepayne.co.uk/bitfighter/bitfightertext.html |
| 18:12:02 | jimmythesquid | So I could just change the bitfightertext to a blog site of your choice and write you the css to go in it. |
| 18:12:46 | jimmythesquid | @raptor Good solution? |
| 18:19:00 | jimmythesquid | no? |
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| 20:52:56 | Watusimoto | hi |
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| 21:03:43 | kaen | I should totally do that! |
| 21:05:06 | kaen | raptor, have you ever used "jekyll"? |
| 21:05:32 | kaen | I used it to do http://kaen.github.io/wasabi/ and I think it's a lot easier than a CMS |
| 21:05:47 | kaen | you just use static html and markdown, and then bake a site to static html |
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| 21:09:16 | kaen | btw, jimmythesquid, I think the parallax adds a really cool touch |
| 21:09:35 | kaen | it's particularly relevant to our artistic style :) |
| 21:13:33 | kaen | so anyway, with a system like that it would be trivial to wire jimmy's mockups as a template |
| 21:14:02 | kaen | and also generate a header to put in to the wiki, forums, etc. |
| 21:17:55 | jimmythesquid | Oh, hi. |
| 21:18:52 | jimmythesquid | Well, if you want to use it, I'm happy to retrofit some things in and make some other pages. |
| 21:19:05 | jimmythesquid | Just tell me what you want doing and I'll see to it. |
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| 22:09:07 | fordcars | I need to get cmake working! |
| 22:09:24 | kaen | what's the error? |
| 22:10:45 | fordcars | Well it's not recognizing Visual Studio 2013 |
| 22:11:12 | fordcars | I tried cmake -G "Visual Studio 12", cmake, cmake -G, cmake >Visual STudio 12" etc |
| 22:11:48 | fordcars | And now that I discovered the meaning of S32 and F32, I want to get it working :O |
| 22:12:32 | fordcars | The mighty Google doesn't have an answer |
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| 22:19:27 | Watusimoto | fordcars: build for vs10 and let vs12 upgrade the project |
| 22:19:43 | Watusimoto | I use vs13 and have had no problems |
| 22:19:50 | Watusimoto | I just build, without specifying a target |
| 22:19:50 | fordcars | Ok, I'll try |
| 22:19:57 | fordcars | Uh |
| 22:20:11 | Watusimoto | just do cmake .. |
| 22:20:15 | fordcars | Ok |
| 22:22:57 | fordcars | Still won't work :/ |
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| 22:23:57 | fordcars | http://pastie.org/8683691 |
| 22:27:28 | Watusimoto | add gdi32.lib to properties>linker>input>additional dependencies |
| 22:27:41 | Watusimoto | basically have to tell vc++ where to find this thing |
| 22:27:50 | Watusimoto | or rather, that it should use it |
| 22:29:31 | fordcars | Ooh that sounds promising |
| 22:31:14 | fordcars | In Vs? |
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| 22:32:29 | raptor | hi again |
| 22:32:42 | raptor | sorry - i've gone a bit braindead (getting sick again) |
| 22:33:07 | Watusimoto | boo! |
| 22:33:25 | Watusimoto | (as in booing your sickness, not trying to scare you) |
| 22:33:42 | raptor | jimmythesquid / kaen there is some merit to doing just static html pages, unless we want to do a blog of some kind in the future... |
| 22:33:47 | raptor | hi Watusimoto |
| 22:34:04 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 22:34:07 | raptor | Watusimoto / fordcars, nothing you do to vc++ will help compile bitfighter unless cmake can run |
| 22:34:19 | Watusimoto | cmake is running, I think |
| 22:34:27 | Watusimoto | he's getting a link error |
| 22:34:32 | raptor | not according to the error fordcars gave me last |
| 22:34:34 | Watusimoto | that implies some level of success with cmake |
| 22:34:40 | fordcars | Raptor, http://pastie.org/8683691 |
| 22:34:44 | fordcars | Isn't that the same? |
| 22:34:54 | fordcars | I used cmake -G >Visual Studio 12" .. |
| 22:34:58 | fordcars | *" |
| 22:35:35 | fordcars | watusimoto, where is Propeties? |
| 22:35:42 | fordcars | In vs, cmake... |
| 22:35:48 | Watusimoto | in vs |
| 22:35:58 | Watusimoto | right click on things until you find it |
| 22:36:04 | fordcars | Thanks :) |
| 22:36:16 | Watusimoto | probably on the bitfighter project on the left side of the screen |
| 22:36:22 | raptor | yeah that's the same error - cmake is hitting an exception when attempting to find the compiler |
| 22:36:26 | jimmythesquid | raptor Its up to you guys, You can use the iframe I built in to bring in pages from blogs so its easier for you to edit. |
| 22:36:26 | fordcars | Bitfighter is not in vs |
| 22:36:34 | raptor | it's not generating any output files yet |
| 22:36:38 | fordcars | Yeah ^^ |
| 22:36:40 | jimmythesquid | So you just edit a purely text page. |
| 22:37:20 | raptor | so, that means we need to get cmake to find the compiler - my guess is that there are 32bit libraries missing on the system |
| 22:37:44 | fordcars | Maybe |
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| 22:38:53 | raptor | fordcars: just to be thorough - are you running cmake in a directory path with spaces in it? |
| 22:39:06 | fordcars | Uh |
| 22:39:14 | fordcars | Nope |
| 22:39:22 | fordcars | C:\Users\fordcars\Documents\bitfighter\build |
| 22:39:28 | raptor | ok good |
| 22:39:43 | raptor | (that was one of the possible causes I just read about) |
| 22:39:49 | fordcars | Ah ok |
| 22:39:49 | raptor | and you are on windows 8.1? |
| 22:39:52 | fordcars | Yeah |
| 22:39:56 | fordcars | :X |
| 22:40:01 | raptor | 64bit? |
| 22:40:03 | fordcars | Yep |
| 22:40:04 | fordcars | Amd |
| 22:41:14 | raptor | is there a way to open a 32bit mode command prompt? |
| 22:41:35 | raptor | or maybe launch cmake in some sort of compatibility mode? |
| 22:41:59 | fordcars | I don't know |
| 22:47:00 | fordcars | I got terminal running as 32bit I think |
| 22:48:05 | fordcars | Gahhh still fails |
| 22:48:07 | raptor | maybe we should check to make sure that gdi32.lib actually exists somewhere? |
| 22:48:13 | fordcars | Yeah |
| 22:49:10 | raptor | it does? or are you going to check? |
| 22:49:28 | fordcars | I'm checking |
| 22:49:45 | fordcars | Well, I don't know where it would be. Vs\lib? |
| 22:49:51 | fordcars | WAIT |
| 22:49:58 | raptor | that sounds like a good place... ? |
| 22:50:04 | fordcars | gdi32.lib is a standard Windows library (for the graphics device interface [msdn.microsoft.com]).aspx). |
| 22:50:13 | fordcars | I got someguy who has the same problem |
| 22:50:23 | raptor | maybe you don't have it installed? |
| 22:51:05 | fordcars | It;s not there |
| 22:51:19 | fordcars | Oh got it |
| 22:51:42 | fordcars | It should be in lib, but it is supposable in Windows SDK |
| 22:51:49 | fordcars | I'll try it, wish me luck! |
| 22:52:01 | fordcars | Thsi website by the way: http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/23763 |
| 22:52:24 | fordcars | Oh pooo nmn |
| 22:53:06 | fordcars | Aw, the SDK is fine |
| 22:55:51 | fordcars | Oh, gdi32.lib doesn't seem to be there |
| 23:05:58 | fordcars | Ok, I am reinstalling the SDK thing, seems to work for people who don't have gdi32 |
| 23:06:16 | fordcars | I didn't find it in the directories, and the path seems good |
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| 23:07:59 | Watusimoto | I'm heading to bed real soon... I'll be around briefly tomorrow, then not at all on Saturday, possibly on late on Sunday |
| 23:08:31 | Watusimoto | raptor: if koda shows up, please give him my email address and ask him to contact me |
| 23:09:30 | raptor | ok sure |
| 23:09:44 | raptor | is the thingy this weekend? |
| 23:09:55 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 23:10:03 | Watusimoto | I leave in 36 hours |
| 23:10:05 | raptor | what was the name of the thingy? |
| 23:10:09 | Watusimoto | fosdem |
| 23:10:13 | raptor | ah yes |
| 23:10:28 | Watusimoto | I bought my train ticket tonight, so I'm definitely going |
| 23:10:33 | raptor | the one about open source... and beer, was it? |
| 23:11:10 | Watusimoto | not so much beer (at least not this time) there is a photo of me on linked in that I want him to look at |
| 23:11:18 | Watusimoto | so he will recognize me |
| 23:11:26 | raptor | ok, i'll relay the message |
| 23:11:30 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 23:11:37 | Watusimoto | it's a bad pic, but it will do |
| 23:11:59 | Watusimoto | and I'll wear my black and orange tony-the-tiger hat |
| 23:12:20 | Watusimoto | I'll have a red carnation tucked into the button hole of my tux "-) |
| 23:12:20 | raptor | that sounds familiar |
| 23:12:28 | raptor | ha |
| 23:12:40 | fordcars | Haha |
| 23:12:49 | Watusimoto | I'll be carrying a copy of the Luxembourger Wort newspaper tucked under my arm |
| 23:13:32 | raptor | i thought guns were banned in europe |
| 23:13:43 | Watusimoto | hardly! |
| 23:13:47 | fordcars | HOLY CHOCALTE |
| 23:13:53 | fordcars | It worked :D |
| 23:13:59 | Watusimoto | in switzerland and austria, most households have a rifle |
| 23:14:22 | raptor | i guess i've never included switzerland in my modern conception of europe.. |
| 23:14:24 | Watusimoto | hunting is big in germany |
| 23:14:35 | Watusimoto | and probably france |
| 23:14:44 | Watusimoto | there are tons of guns in norway and sweden |
| 23:15:03 | raptor | (i was kidding) |
| 23:15:08 | Watusimoto | but there are not a lot of handguns |
| 23:15:18 | raptor | my boss is/was a parisian |
| 23:15:24 | raptor | project manager, i should say |
| 23:15:41 | raptor | so much of my european interaction (other than the germans) is about the french |
| 23:16:09 | Watusimoto | europe is a highly variable place |
| 23:16:32 | Watusimoto | the french are visible to americans, but are far from the whole story |
| 23:16:53 | raptor | and that's why i'd like to visit europe sometime |
| 23:17:11 | raptor | specifically germany/switzerland and maybe other north countries |
| 23:17:37 | Watusimoto | there's a lot to see here |
| 23:18:02 | fordcars | Ok, Visual Studio 12 isn't compatible with 13? |
| 23:18:07 | Watusimoto | you can come a join a shooting club :-0 |
| 23:18:14 | raptor | vs12 == 2013 |
| 23:18:20 | raptor | i think |
| 23:18:32 | fordcars | Me too, but it says the .sln are incmaptible |
| 23:18:50 | raptor | ok, try 11 |
| 23:19:39 | raptor | you may need to clear the cache |
| 23:19:57 | fordcars | I opened ALL_BUILD instead of bitfighter and it looks like it's doing something (Parsing files) |
| 23:20:10 | fordcars | Oh never mind, trying 11 |
| 23:20:20 | raptor | yeah it needs to be the sln |
| 23:20:31 | bobdaduck | Make it so speedzones can be set to have negative speed for 019a plz |
| 23:21:01 | | raptor suggests he adjusts speedzones by tau/2 |
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| 23:24:21 | Watusimoto | negative speed? veto! |
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| 23:39:56 | bobdaduck_ | How about teleporters then? Negative delay? Can I have that? |
| 23:41:26 | raptor | slowzones? |
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