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IRC Log for 2014-02-13

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00:00:02raptor(it wouldn't be ready for release)
00:05:24WatusimotoI found a bug that I am not sure how/if to fix
00:05:34raptorooo tell me
00:05:40WatusimotoClientGame::setSpawnDelayed has two overrides
00:06:06Watusimotoone in FullClientInfo and one in RemoteCI
00:06:26Watusimotooh wait a sec
00:06:40Watusimotocancel
00:07:16raptorcancelled
00:09:09raptor!release
00:09:10BFLogBotTo release, follow the checklist: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_checklist
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00:10:53raptorhave to remember to revert s_bot...
00:13:35fordcarsHi
00:14:04raptorhi
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00:21:21raptorpython is great!
00:25:08Watusimotohmmmm... interesting theory
00:25:58raptor:) I've been using it to do large (> 1GB) text processing, it completed in about 30 seconds
00:26:21raptorso it at least has a good compiler...
00:39:13fordcarsIts syntax is funky, but it's good for messing around with the Raspberry Pis GPIO pins
00:39:17fordcarsGPIO module :)
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00:56:06BFLogBot Commit: a603540eaa1d | Author: watusimoto | Message: I don't understand why these are needed... but apparently they are. Weird.
00:56:07BFLogBot Commit: c808edcbd36c | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge
00:56:12Watusimotothis is my final commit... tests are still broken, but I think it is ok to proceed.
00:56:32WatusimotoI'm heading to bed, so do what you can and I'll check the checklist tomorrow and see what I can do
00:59:38raptorok!
00:59:46raptorgood night!
00:59:54raptorand may the release bugs not bite
01:02:29fordcarsMhaha
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01:32:31raptorok, i'm headed home - will do releasey stuff a bit later
01:32:48raptorlast chance to ask for polishing changes!
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02:40:51raptorok, let's get this party started!
02:40:53raptor!release
02:40:53BFLogBotTo release, follow the checklist: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_checklist
02:41:29kaentoday I started working on the S3D library
02:41:36kaenI've been asking for docs since last week
02:42:02kaenregarding at least the interface for enabling/disabling S3D
02:42:09Nothing_Muchpi server down!
02:42:24raptorok, so... what is s3d?
02:42:33raptoris it this?: http://s3d.sourceforge.net/
02:42:35kaen(auto)stereoscopic 3D
02:42:46fordcarsNothing, I know :O
02:42:52raptorahhh, ah yes
02:43:05fordcarsI turned it off earlier
02:43:14kaenso I got that OS image today
02:43:22kaenstill too scared to flash the tablet
02:43:34kaenI mount and extract it, find it's a completely stock android OS
02:43:38raptorso not a brick yet
02:43:40kaenwith one installed apk
02:43:50kaenS3DTester.apk
02:43:56raptorhaha
02:44:03kaenunpack the apk
02:44:12Nothing_Muchfordcars: gonna refine it?
02:44:12kaenusing JNI to call into a packaged .so
02:44:17kaenextract the .so
02:44:26kaenarmeabi-objdump -T that badboy
02:44:32kaenhas exactly two useful symbols:
02:44:33kaenDevOpen
02:44:37fordcarsrefine?
02:44:38kaenDevClose
02:44:39raptorha!
02:44:51kaenI had to reverse engineer the API...
02:44:55raptordecompiled the java yet?
02:44:57fordcarsI'll start the server if that's what you mean :P
02:45:07kaenyes, it's very simple
02:45:18Nothing_Muchfordcars: I mean like
02:45:18Nothing_Muchfix it up a bit yo
02:45:25kaenthe app literally just has three buttons: off, s3d vertical, s3d horizontal
02:45:30fordcarsNah
02:45:33raptorhaha
02:45:49fordcarsI switched the Pi's cables earlier
02:45:53kaenyou can tell that it's turning the s3d on because the screen gets just a shade darker
02:45:57kaenit's nutso...
02:45:58fordcarsI should be back on now :)
02:46:15raptorso what is your job exactly... make it more than nutso?
02:46:32kaenwrap the nutso with some sanity
02:46:36kaenso that normal people can use it
02:47:25kaenand also so that it can support other types of nutso
02:47:30fordcarsWhoa, S3d screenshots
02:47:36kaen(meaning other proprietary .so files etc)
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02:50:46raptorthis is informative: http://visually.visually.netdna-cdn.com/how3dfilmtechnologyworksinfographicsteknoise_4e5bacf1a6fa7_w587.jpg
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03:03:15BFLogBot Commit: fa0a2ab321d1 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix update tasks for 019a
03:03:16BFLogBot Commit: ac5a3df3d2d2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Use printf in main_test.cpp, TNL::logprint doesn't seem to work here
03:04:00raptorugh... have to use Xcode
03:04:02raptorblah
03:04:35raptorthe future is not Xcode, that's for sure
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03:29:57Nothing_Muchis Xcode Apple stuff?
03:30:11fordcarsYeah, Mac's IDE
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03:30:37fordcarsI still rather Xcode than Visual Studio though
03:31:09fordcarsBut Linux GCC still wins, of course
03:32:57raptoradmittedly, i'm 2 major versions of Xcode behind... maybe they've improved stuff
03:35:59fordcarsI got the latest on our Mac Mini, barely used it yet though
03:36:11fordcarsiPhone simulation is pretty neat though
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04:02:35raptorlast chance for release changes! (if they're quick)
04:11:50raptorlooks liek watusimoto didn't do much with the windows updater
04:16:25kaenman I always forget how nice ubuntu is
04:16:59kaenI get all grumpy about one bug or misfeature I don't understand, switch away for months, then invariably come back and wonder why I ever left.
04:17:26kaenand I just discovered that you get 5GB free of Ubuntu One storage!
04:17:45kaenI've been looking all week for a private online storage for client work.
04:18:01kaenand I had one this whole time :P
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04:36:00fordcarsraptor, I think we are all set. Remember to revert s_bot
04:36:39fordcarsNot that I know anything other than s_bot :P
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05:21:19BFLogBot Commit: a701db1882db | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Revert s_bot GCI upgrades for 019a release
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06:06:10fordcarsNight1
06:06:12fordcars!
06:06:18fordcarsHeh
06:06:30fordcarsLater :)
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06:29:35raptorok back... onward!
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07:05:39raptortagging for release
07:05:42BFLogBot Commit: 12e7935d903d | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: 2014!
07:12:55BFLogBot Commit: 3a240abe3d41 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update build version for release
07:12:57BFLogBot Commit: 58095b55ca70 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Tag for release
07:29:11raptorhmmm google code doesn't allow new downloads
08:08:01BFLogBot Commit: a5e1840fd5d0 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update script to no longer involve google code since they removed their download service
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09:01:00raptorgood morning! sent e-mail... and good night!
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11:01:28watusimoto changes topic to 'hello'
11:01:33watusimoto changes topic to 'Welcome GCI students! Feel free to ask anything! | Bitfighter 019 released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads | Join us in the forums! at http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | Channel logs http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/'
11:01:59watusimoto changes topic to 'Welcome GCI students! Feel free to ask anything! | Bitfighter 019a released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads | Join us in the forums! at http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | Channel logs http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/'
11:02:38watusimoto changes topic to 'Welcome everyone! Feel free to ask anything! | Bitfighter 019a released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads | Join us in the forums! at http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | Channel logs http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/'
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16:02:40BFLogBot Message from raptor: watusimoto, 019a Changes list compiled and found here: http://pastie.org/pastes/8730126/text
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16:58:35raptorgood morning!
16:58:50raptoronward to release!
16:58:57kaenmorning!
16:59:02kaenah, and a fine morning it is
17:00:34raptoryes sir!
17:01:02raptorI have to find all my crazy Desura stuff...
17:03:48watusimotohi
17:04:10watusimotoraptor: if you do the list first, I can take on the long list of tasks that require the list
17:04:21watusimotoupdating the websites, sending the email, etc.
17:04:49raptori did the list: http://pastie.org/pastes/8730126/text
17:04:50watusimototonight is probably my last night to work on this before I go
17:04:57raptorit may need refinement
17:04:58watusimotoexcellent!
17:05:09watusimotoYes, I'll use it to write a short paragraph about what is new
17:06:17raptorwatusimoto: you make revisions here: http://board.net/p/bf_019a_changes
17:07:24raptorI think I got most important stuff
17:08:04raptorbut a lot of the commit messages weren't as explicit as I'd like...
17:09:51watusimotoDo you remember the best 2-3 plugins?
17:10:11raptorummm... let me look
17:10:31raptor'Convert Objects' for sure
17:11:04watusimotowall intersections?
17:11:10watusimotolike clipping?
17:11:18raptorthere is a scissors one
17:11:22raptorbut i haven't used it yet
17:11:45watusimotothat's probably enough
17:14:04raptorkaen: wasn't there a plugin that made jaggety walls more smooth?
17:14:09raptori thought I included that one...
17:14:52raptorahh, subdivide
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17:17:24watusimotook, my draft has been added to board.net
17:17:49raptori don't see it - and i don't see you connected
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17:18:33watusimotobetter?
17:19:10raptorlots of redundant 'cool'
17:19:18watusimotoTrying to make it exciting
17:19:31watusimotoI need to get a last task done here at work, will look at this when I get home
17:19:36raptorokey doke
17:19:45raptori'll start linuxy stuff
17:19:51raptoris my breakdown OK?
17:19:55raptordid i miss anything?
17:19:59watusimotoit's great
17:20:04watusimotogamejolt integration
17:20:22watusimotowhich technically was a mid-term feature, but why not advertise it?
17:20:26raptorsure
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17:57:12raptor!release
17:57:12BFLogBotTo release, follow the checklist: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_checklist
17:57:19raptor18 is done
17:57:36raptoronly (c) remains on 15
17:57:49watusimotoheading out... would you create a document somewhere showing what you've done, so we can better coordinate?
17:58:05raptoryep, i'll write down what is left on that board page
17:58:21watusimotoperfect
17:58:27watusimotobye!
17:58:46raptorbye
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18:07:27kodaHey guys
18:07:37raptorhi
18:21:04raptor019a is released everyone!
18:49:51kodaSo
18:50:03raptorit has come to this
18:51:13kodaFinally, it's time
18:51:24raptorkoda: my next two priorites are: 1. get LuaJIT working; 2. convert all the way to CMake on OSX
18:51:34raptorsince we've released now I can break things!
18:51:54kodaCongrats for release
18:51:58raptorthanks!
18:52:34raptoroh wow - you guys finally removed your legacy OSX package?
18:53:19raptori.e. hedgewars doesn't support 32-bit OSX anymore...
18:54:05kodaYes, it was done because i changed env 10.9
18:54:14raptorahh
18:54:17kodaAnd because I refactored the pascal scmake way of building stuff
18:54:37kodaI had hoped having a pascal rule would have worked out
18:54:49kodaTo make cmake stuff I mean
18:54:50raptordid many people scream?
18:54:58kodaNot so many
18:55:29raptorI know of 3 people who use our 32 bit build...
18:56:53kodaI do remember once they wrote an article because we didnt ship a 32bit binary
18:56:59kodaBut it was on the AppStore
18:57:03raptornegative press?
18:57:20kodaNeutral, just fun that they used hw as example
19:07:03raptoroh neat! armv7l and ppc64 are now standard architectures in openSUSE
19:09:48kodappc?
19:10:15raptoryeah... i wonder what actual systems they're thinking of
19:10:37raptornot 32 bit 'ppc' but the 64 bit 'ppc64'
19:13:02kodaLast ppc macs were ppc64
19:14:22raptoris ppc used heavily anywhere at the moment? I can think of IBM servers... PS3 (4?), one of the XBOX systems?
19:15:34raptorah, xbox 360
19:15:49raptorand nintendo wii
19:23:16kodaOh right ps3
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20:26:07raptorha! nice bug bobdaduck
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20:31:21Nothing_Muchafternoon
20:31:41Nothing_Muchoi, I need to sleep sooner if I want to start a learning center..
20:32:44raptoradded fedora 20 RPMs..
20:32:55raptordebian is a beast...
20:33:40Nothing_MuchWas Bitfighter added to the Debian repos yet?
20:33:56raptorno, not yet - i'm building custom debs...
20:34:34Nothing_MuchOh okay
20:34:37Nothing_MuchCustom?
20:34:44Nothing_MuchOh, you mean for 019a?
20:34:47raptori mean 'unofficial'
20:34:50raptoryes
20:36:14Nothing_MuchOh sweet
20:44:11bobdaduckWhat bug?
20:49:38bobdaduckOHHHHHHHH
20:49:58bobdaduckgoodness I don't even know what I'm doing after I do it
20:50:43bobdaduckWoke up one day and DnD was half finished and I had $50,000 in bubblegum in my room
20:51:06raptorlate night, huh?
20:52:45bobdaduckThese things just happen!
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21:45:35raptorhi Watusimoto
21:45:42raptorlet me PM you something -
21:49:08Watusimotook
21:56:02raptorok 11 is done (finally)
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22:18:41bobdaduckNew strategy
22:18:56bobdaduckI'm going to change my username in games from "bobdaduck" to "playbitfighter"
22:19:17bobdaduckAnd then everyone will get curious and check us out!
22:19:54raptorwhat?
22:22:20bobdaduckwhat?
22:26:28WatusimotoLinuxGames captcha is "what year is it" answer... 2012
22:27:05Watusimoto21 done
22:29:38bobdaduckhey can you grab playbitfighter.com?
22:30:45bobdaduckThen I could just make my username playbitfighter.com and make it even smoother!
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22:43:12Watusimotoalas, the updater still does not close bitfighter on my wife's compute
22:47:07raptorWatusimoto: did you commit your GUP changes?
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22:54:53WatusimotoI think so
22:55:10Watusimotono matter, it's not an issue for tonight
22:55:14raptorbecause i didn't see any commits... let me check
22:55:36raptorah, you did on 09 Jan
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22:56:08Watusimotoyes, that sounds right
22:56:19WatusimotoI don't get permissions errors, it just doesn't shut down
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23:02:22Watusimotook, I'm done
23:02:29raptorok
23:02:34raptorgood on release!
23:02:42Watusimotoaccording to http://board.net/p/bf_019a_changes all that is left is desura
23:03:32raptorexcellent
23:03:55raptorthat'll have to wait until tonight - i don't have all the junk i need on this computer
23:04:08raptorbesides they take like 2 weeks to approve the release anyways...
23:04:45Watusimotono worries
23:05:03WatusimotoI just want to know that my responsibiliteis have been discharged :-)
23:05:10raptoryep!
23:05:17raptoryou are relieved of duty
23:05:24raptorwhen are you coming back again?
23:07:02WatusimotoI'll be back saturday evening, if all goes well
23:07:11raptora week from saturday?
23:07:14Watusimotoyes
23:07:17raptorok cool
23:07:44raptorwe have a nice stable release up, so hopefully things won't crumble while you're gone
23:07:52raptori'll be working on LuaJIT
23:08:12Watusimotowhy do you want to do that, btw?
23:08:21bobdaduckI'll try not to find any major bugs until then
23:09:19raptori wanted to close that bug abotu upgrading to Lua 5.2, then I saw that I had to fix lots of lua stuff, including things with lua-vec, then I started to feel like we should just use straight Lua, then I realized luaJIT was a viable alternative
23:09:55Watusimotobut luajit is only 5.1, right?
23:09:59raptora sort of spiralling mess
23:10:06raptoryes, but it has about half the 5.2 stuff
23:10:16Watusimotois it still being developed?
23:10:18raptoryes
23:10:42raptorand it would let bobdaduck not worry about having so many onTick calculations in DnD
23:10:49Watusimotobut I think it will be slower than luavec for our usecase, no?
23:10:57raptori don't think so
23:11:09raptorLuaJIT is 3 - 100x faster than stock Lua
23:11:25raptorand lua-vec was 5x faster than stock, but only for the vectors
23:11:32bobdaduckIs there like a maximum onTick load that I can try to not reach?
23:12:35bobdaduckIt looks like I'm currently somewhere around 15 per player
23:12:49raptorso we'd be using standard API but have dramatic speed improvements (I'm hoping)
23:13:50Watusimotoyes, but we use a lot of vectors!
23:14:39raptoryes, but LuaJIT was also faster than lua-vec when it came to vectors
23:14:52raptorsee here: http://code.google.com/p/lua-vec/wiki/Benchmarks
23:15:09bobdaduckSo in theory lua should run faster in 019a?
23:15:15raptorno
23:15:20raptorbut maybe in 020
23:15:24bobdaduckoh okay.
23:15:25raptorif i get this to work
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