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| 01:50:15 | Nothing_Much | Anybody know how to get a speedtest or an MTR report? |
| 01:50:22 | Nothing_Much | kaen ? sam686 ? |
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| 02:12:10 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: Did you get WordPress working? |
| 02:12:49 | YoshiSmb_m | hey fc! |
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| 02:14:08 | fordcars | Hi! |
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| 02:23:58 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: something more important came up |
| 02:24:02 | Nothing_Much | My server is laggy |
| 02:24:10 | fordcars | Aww |
| 02:24:19 | Nothing_Much | I gotta fix it asap |
| 02:24:23 | Nothing_Much | But I already did what I could |
| 02:24:47 | Nothing_Much | Hopefully though I got some dude from freenode to help me out with this vagrant thing |
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| 02:34:12 | fordcars | Hmm |
| 02:45:34 | fordcars | My evil hosting provider (free) put a pop-up ad on my website :O |
| 02:45:52 | Nothing_Much | wait |
| 02:45:52 | fordcars | I guess no hosting is really free |
| 02:45:55 | Nothing_Much | hosting provider..? |
| 02:46:06 | fordcars | Well, it provides hosting? |
| 02:46:11 | fordcars | My hosting service |
| 02:46:14 | fordcars | My server |
| 02:46:21 | fordcars | Well, they guys that have the server |
| 02:46:57 | Nothing_Much | so... |
| 02:47:04 | Nothing_Much | I didn't have to spend money on a VPS? |
| 02:47:08 | Nothing_Much | OH WAIT |
| 02:47:11 | fordcars | Yes you did |
| 02:47:12 | Nothing_Much | Hosting is different from a VPS right? |
| 02:47:18 | fordcars | Yeppppp |
| 02:47:26 | fordcars | Well, I have a cheap free hosting with ads |
| 02:47:31 | fordcars | Normally you pay for that to |
| 02:47:33 | fordcars | o |
| 02:47:36 | Nothing_Much | Uh |
| 02:47:40 | Nothing_Much | What's the place called? |
| 02:47:42 | fordcars | I can't have game servers, shh etc |
| 02:47:45 | Nothing_Much | Could I have ho- |
| 02:47:49 | Nothing_Much | Ah okay |
| 02:48:00 | Nothing_Much | So I didn't have to not spend money |
| 02:48:01 | fordcars | Yeah, fairly cheap, but better than my laptop :P |
| 02:48:05 | fordcars | Yeah :) |
| 02:48:05 | Nothing_Much | Because that's what's my server's for |
| 02:48:10 | Nothing_Much | yep! |
| 02:48:14 | fordcars | I actually would like a VPS |
| 02:50:03 | Nothing_Much | can you spend 12$ a year? |
| 02:53:05 | fordcars | Yes! |
| 02:55:26 | Nothing_Much | nice |
| 02:55:27 | Nothing_Much | okay |
| 02:55:29 | Nothing_Much | well |
| 02:55:45 | Nothing_Much | okay, fordcars, do you wanna know what VPS I'm using? |
| 02:55:54 | fordcars | Sure |
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| 03:29:08 | YoshiSmb_m | he did exit... |
| 03:29:21 | Nothing_Much | YoshiSmb_m: that means he just exited the web browser |
| 03:30:36 | YoshiSmb_m | yea |
| 03:31:05 | YoshiSmb_m | a post-deathmatch |
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| 04:13:20 | sam686 | I can host from home... but still it isn't free... I still have to pay for internet access... |
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| 06:40:18 | tazinator | hey what languages is bitfighter in |
| 06:40:25 | tazinator | got a guy in game who want sto know |
| 06:41:05 | Nothing_Much | tazinator: c++ I think |
| 06:41:08 | Nothing_Much | as far as I know |
| 06:42:55 | tazinator | but not for certain? |
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| 06:47:14 | iraliaf | hi |
| 06:47:23 | Nothing_Much | Hi iraliaf |
| 06:47:44 | iraliaf | so cool to see bitfighter still alive |
| 06:48:04 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 06:48:14 | Nothing_Much | actually I think I joined this community in 2012 :D |
| 06:48:19 | Nothing_Much | love this game really |
| 06:49:05 | iraliaf | get online for a sec :D |
| 06:51:57 | Nothing_Much | iraliaf: on bf? :D |
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| 06:58:18 | tzntr | gee whiz, tazinator (which is me) is stll here |
| 06:58:24 | tzntr | how about that |
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| 07:30:44 | tzntr | hi? |
| 07:31:40 | Nothing_Much | hi |
| 07:31:43 | Nothing_Much | gonna sleep soon |
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| 07:34:03 | tazinator | n_m I made a bot.. |
| 07:34:27 | tazinator | agh i dont think i can host nvm |
| 07:34:37 | tazinator | its on the forum though. DRONES. That's the bot |
| 07:34:54 | tazinator | fun bot if your computer can handle lots of them |
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| 07:37:59 | tazinator | yes! |
| 07:38:07 | tazinator | it is now capable of being fun in any level |
| 07:38:20 | Nothing_Much | tazinator: I have to fix the server lag first though |
| 07:38:36 | tazinator | ahh k |
| 07:38:43 | tazinator | (how do you even host?) |
| 07:38:57 | Nothing_Much | dedicated server |
| 07:39:08 | tazinator | that the only way to get players to come in |
| 07:39:15 | tazinator | no ports for temporary host? |
| 07:40:07 | Nothing_Much | no no |
| 07:40:10 | Nothing_Much | people can join |
| 07:40:12 | Nothing_Much | but it's like |
| 07:40:14 | Nothing_Much | laggy :( |
| 07:40:28 | tazinator | blahhhh |
| 07:40:37 | tazinator | all servers are laggy to me, i dont know the difference |
| 07:40:48 | tazinator | unless you mean like cant handle many players lag |
| 07:40:55 | Nothing_Much | no like |
| 07:40:58 | Nothing_Much | stuttering lag |
| 07:41:01 | Nothing_Much | lag spikes and stuff |
| 07:41:34 | tazinator | ahh |
| 07:41:37 | tazinator | thats the worst kind |
| 07:41:54 | Nothing_Much | oh yes |
| 07:42:12 | tazinator | dude this bot has spawned a whole new game mode |
| 07:42:31 | tazinator | Robot overlord |
| 07:42:52 | tazinator | uhh |
| 07:42:53 | tazinator | yeah |
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| 08:06:41 | tazinator | hello |
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| 12:32:00 | YoshiSmb_m | Good Morning! |
| 12:46:19 | YoshiSmb_m | (it's 9:45 o'clock now where i live) |
| 12:46:50 | YoshiSmb_m | i just did wake up |
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| 14:13:22 | raptor | good morning! |
| 14:17:18 | YoshiSmb_m | morning raptor |
| 14:19:10 | YoshiSmb_m | (just when i waked up 1:55 hours ago) |
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| 17:59:29 | Nothing_Much | server stopped lagging! |
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| 20:38:04 | raptor | we now have google fiber! |
| 20:38:21 | raptor | and they gave us a free refrigerator magnet! |
| 20:38:24 | Watusimoto | you lucky bastard! |
| 20:38:51 | Nothing_Much | lucky! |
| 20:39:17 | raptor | free internet for 7 years |
| 20:39:29 | raptor | at the lowest rate (5Mpbs/1bps) |
| 20:39:46 | raptor | a really nice gigabit router with wireless-n at 5.0 and 2.4 GHz |
| 20:40:03 | raptor | and so far decent admin capabilities in the router |
| 20:40:31 | raptor | although I lost my static IP address |
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| 20:40:49 | raptor | so I have to think of something for the home servers... |
| 20:44:07 | raptor | sam686: do you find changeip.com to be reliable for dynamic DNS? |
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| 20:49:33 | bobdaduck | I'm gonna go over to your house next time I host a party k? |
| 20:49:45 | raptor | connection was faster before |
| 20:50:13 | raptor | before was 15/15... with google i had two choices: 1000/1000 or 5/1 |
| 20:50:30 | bobdaduck | That... Seems rather extreme both ways |
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| 20:55:19 | Watusimoto | I had 5/1 when I was in the US, and it was bearable, most of the time |
| 20:55:33 | Watusimoto | how much does 1000/1000 cost? |
| 20:55:42 | raptor | yeah... we were willing to pay for faster speed... but it was just out of our price-range |
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| 20:56:00 | Watusimoto | sell one of your kids |
| 20:56:07 | | bobdaduck snorts |
| 20:56:25 | raptor | the gigabit was $80/month, but no phone line (our current plan had phone built-in ~$70) |
| 20:56:31 | Watusimoto | I mean... it;s gigabit service |
| 20:56:45 | raptor | the gigabit + TV was $130-140 |
| 20:56:59 | raptor | but TV... is obsolete in many ways (and we don't have one) |
| 20:57:06 | Watusimoto | you could do a voip phone |
| 20:57:20 | Watusimoto | yeah, forget the tv |
| 20:57:23 | raptor | yeah, we've looked to those |
| 20:57:30 | Watusimoto | even for free, it's barely worth it |
| 20:57:45 | raptor | but one thing about google fiber |
| 20:57:58 | raptor | it's 5/1 connection *per device* connected to their router |
| 20:58:02 | raptor | not shared |
| 20:58:08 | Watusimoto | interesting |
| 20:58:21 | Watusimoto | can you get a multi-plexor router? |
| 20:58:40 | Watusimoto | or whatever they're called, and combine bandwith from several "devices"? |
| 20:58:43 | raptor | i'm not sure i know what that means... i know what multiplex means |
| 20:58:49 | raptor | ahhh |
| 20:59:03 | Watusimoto | they have routers that will use two different connections to give you more bandwidth |
| 20:59:09 | Watusimoto | I may not have used the right term |
| 20:59:13 | raptor | i forgot the term, but you used to be able to put in two 57.6 bps modems and get both |
| 20:59:28 | Watusimoto | I think they have more modern equivalents |
| 20:59:41 | Watusimoto | but that's what I'm talking about |
| 20:59:44 | raptor | yeah, i figured those existed - I'll do some research... |
| 21:00:03 | raptor | anyways, the download speed is just fine for our needs; especially since it isn't shared |
| 21:00:18 | raptor | but the upload upload speed is not ideal for working from home |
| 21:00:34 | Watusimoto | no |
| 21:00:58 | raptor | i'll have to get nx-client running again for VNC stuff |
| 21:00:58 | Watusimoto | you could cut your bandwidth needs a little bit by not repeating repeating words |
| 21:01:12 | raptor | hah |
| 21:01:16 | Watusimoto | but that's probably not a long term solution |
| 21:01:33 | Watusimoto | you need to say "Having google fiber is very very awesome!" |
| 21:02:08 | Watusimoto | even if it's not... |
| 21:02:33 | raptor | it's very, very good for being free |
| 21:02:53 | raptor | specifically optimized for media consumption (like netflix) |
| 21:03:26 | raptor | they say they guarantee 4-5Mpbs constant stream at any time specifically for that reason |
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| 21:21:49 | Watusimoto | that would be my main concern, outside of the work from home thing |
| 21:22:26 | raptor | the loss of my static IP is my biggest hurt - that was quite the luxury |
| 21:28:54 | bobdaduck | What is static IP? |
| 21:29:07 | raptor | an IP address known to the world that doesn't change |
| 21:29:29 | raptor | it's really nice because you just memorize it and connect to it from anywhere |
| 21:30:56 | Watusimoto | you know, there's no programming problem you can't make worse by adding templates :-( |
| 21:31:36 | raptor | but it makes code smaller! and harder to read! |
| 21:31:54 | Watusimoto | A few days ago, I set out to make a modest, well reasoned change to the way we handle settings in Bitfighter... and it's morphed into a template nightmaer. |
| 21:32:27 | Watusimoto | I'm down to just 103 errors though... |
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| 21:58:55 | Nothing_Much | Okay so |
| 21:58:58 | Nothing_Much | I just realized that |
| 21:59:07 | Nothing_Much | Whenever a client connects to the master server |
| 21:59:15 | Nothing_Much | That's when my server jumps in ping |
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| 22:13:15 | tazinator | hey, does anyone know how to use setvel? |
| 22:13:33 | tazinator | for bots |
| 22:14:29 | tazinator | or how to even input a velocity value (I got B's and C |
| 22:14:35 | tazinator | in geometry class) |
| 22:14:38 | Nothing_Much | I dunno :( |
| 22:14:51 | tazinator | well I found a bunch of possibly deprecated stuff in the class list |
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| 22:15:19 | tazinator | kaen! not understanding this |
| 22:15:23 | tazinator | http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/class_robot.html#ac95efb6f375a6d537fd8a80342d97cd9 |
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| 22:18:06 | Iraliaf | yooooo |
| 22:18:08 | Iraliaf | get on guys |
| 22:18:30 | Nothing_Much | Iraliaf: sure dude, which server though? |
| 22:18:45 | Nothing_Much | I'm starting to get pissed with my VPS host |
| 22:19:03 | tazinator | come to bitfighter host |
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| 22:21:05 | Iraliaf | if you were to write a mod for bitfighter - something that altered physics or other elements of shield reload/weapon fire, etc, would you have to write that in something other than lua? how, specifically would you go about that? |
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| 22:24:59 | Iraliaf | if you were to write a mod for bitfighter - something that altered physics or other elements of shield reload/weapon fire, etc, would you have to write that in something other than lua? how, specifically would you go about that? |
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| 22:29:47 | Nothing_Much | Iraliaf: they'll get to it eventually dude |
| 22:31:26 | Iraliaf | i want to help |
| 22:32:34 | Nothing_Much | we know dude, but unfortunately the 3 devs aren't here at the moment :( |
| 22:32:35 | Nothing_Much | do you know how to use mercurial? |
| 22:35:58 | sam686 | mercurial is just a command: hg |
| 22:36:37 | sam686 | TurtoiseHG is a pretty graphical user interface that uses mercurial |
| 22:37:08 | sam686 | Me and other window users use tortoiseHG, and it is possible to have turtoiseHG on linux as well.. |
| 22:40:44 | Iraliaf | sam is tortoise part of devving |
| 22:42:38 | oskopek | /whois Iraliaf |
| 22:42:57 | oskopek | oops, fail |
| 22:43:05 | raptor | hi sam686: do you find changeip.com (for your 25u.com domain) to be reliable? |
| 22:43:57 | sam686 | sometimes my IP address changes and I forget to update my comain until the next day.., but otherwise seem to be good |
| 22:44:07 | raptor | ok great |
| 22:44:21 | raptor | my ISP changed and now I have a dynamic IP, so I need to get a DNS.. |
| 22:45:49 | Nothing_Much | raptor: what's the advantage of a static IP? |
| 22:45:57 | raptor | static == doesn't change |
| 22:46:16 | raptor | advantage is you always know what your IP will be and can always get to it from the outside |
| 22:46:57 | Nothing_Much | ohh |
| 22:47:31 | raptor | sam686: do you pay for the dynamic account? |
| 22:48:05 | sam686 | static IP, mostly good for hosting e-mail servers, as most ISP block ability to host/send to email server (TCP port 25) in dynamic IP address. |
| 22:48:58 | sam686 | well, there is .25u.com and a few other free ending of DNS part is free DNS, or any DNS name for a small price |
| 22:52:16 | sam686 | one advantage of dynamic IP address is when it comes to ip flooders slowing down the internet to a crawl.. just DHCP release internet ip address and renew and hope for a new address. |
| 22:52:25 | raptor | haha |
| 22:52:27 | raptor | that's great! |
| 22:56:49 | raptor | ok sam686, I added a domain and i'm in 'DNS Manager' - I see checkboxes 'Set 1' 'Set 2', do you know what those are? |
| 22:57:46 | sam686 | i don't know, i just have both Set 1 and Set 2 checked |
| 22:57:56 | raptor | ok, thanks |
| 22:59:52 | sam686 | if your internet have IPv6, you can add "AAAA" and IPv6 address... my internet still yet don't have IPv6 |
| 23:02:11 | raptor | looks like i have ipv6 |
| 23:02:45 | sam686 | try testing your ipv6 http://test-ipv6.com/ |
| 23:03:00 | sam686 | it also tells you your address |
| 23:07:55 | Watusimoto | Iraliaf: to answer your question, you'd have to make such a mod in C++ |
| 23:08:04 | Iraliaf | im redownloading an ide right now |
| 23:08:09 | Watusimoto | and it wouln;t be so much a mod as a modest rewrite |
| 23:08:10 | Iraliaf | about to get started... really itching to make one |
| 23:08:23 | Iraliaf | i understand |
| 23:08:39 | Watusimoto | whatever you created would probably not be compatible with mainline bitfighter |
| 23:08:48 | Watusimoto | but have fun! |
| 23:08:53 | Watusimoto | that's the important thing |
| 23:09:21 | Watusimoto | also... a bit of advice having watched others in your position... |
| 23:09:34 | Watusimoto | start modestly, don't bite off too much at once |
| 23:10:19 | Iraliaf | the first thing i want to do is see if i can rewrite movement |
| 23:10:26 | Iraliaf | into only keyboard |
| 23:10:28 | Iraliaf | no mouse at all |
| 23:10:56 | Watusimoto | that should be doable, at least from the technical POV |
| 23:11:14 | Watusimoto | not sure how playable it would be, but I guess we'll find out :-) |
| 23:11:24 | raptor | interesting game: http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ |
| 23:12:00 | Iraliaf | http://zhuoweizhang.net/Flappy2048/ |
| 23:12:05 | Iraliaf | http://prat0318.github.io/2048-tetris/ |
| 23:12:06 | Iraliaf | ;) |
| 23:12:09 | Iraliaf | enjoy. |
| 23:12:22 | sam686 | i might be back in 2-3 hours |
| 23:13:40 | Watusimoto | unlikely to be the next minecraft... |
| 23:13:46 | Watusimoto | but interesting |
| 23:14:37 | Watusimoto | it has a bit of the towers of hanoi feel about it... it |
| 23:14:42 | Watusimoto | it's exponential nature |
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| 23:22:27 | tazinator | fordcars, wazzup |
| 23:22:31 | fordcars | Hai |
| 23:22:57 | tazinator | Watusimoto: how can I get my bot to be standard with the game? |
| 23:23:07 | fordcars | It's in the .ni I think |
| 23:23:11 | fordcars | *ini |
| 23:23:14 | tazinator | fordcars: did you see the drone bot I finished? |
| 23:23:20 | fordcars | Yeah, it looks good :) |
| 23:23:22 | tazinator | I mean ship with the game |
| 23:23:35 | raptor | is that like sentinel bot? |
| 23:23:48 | fordcars | I guess you would just ask Wats :) |
| 23:24:02 | fordcars | It's a modification of trollbot I think |
| 23:24:18 | tazinator | I used fordcars code as a base |
| 23:24:32 | tazinator | whats sentinel bot? |
| 23:25:06 | fordcars | Raptor wrote it, it circles a certain player, either protecting or killing it :) |
| 23:25:26 | Watusimoto | tazinator: we don't have an official procedure |
| 23:25:42 | Watusimoto | or maybe I should ask... what do you mean? |
| 23:25:53 | fordcars | Like, Eliza and Orbitbot? |
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| 23:26:43 | tazinator_ | freenode irc keeps closing my bitfighter connection |
| 23:26:57 | tazinator_ | and i have to refresh and retype in all the password username captcha stuff |
| 23:27:28 | Iraliaf | when specifying "where is the source code" do you just say the folder that holds everything or the build folder? |
| 23:27:31 | Iraliaf | on cmake |
| 23:27:59 | fordcars | I think it's only the directory with all the folders, including build |
| 23:28:29 | Iraliaf | ok what about "where to build binaries" |
| 23:28:44 | fordcars | Uh, on what page is that? |
| 23:28:54 | Iraliaf | its in cmake gui |
| 23:28:54 | tazinator_ | ahh I see the description for sentinel bot, no my drone bot is totally different |
| 23:28:57 | raptor | !gci |
| 23:28:57 | BFLogBot | GCI Students Welcome! Please see: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/GCI_Student_Bootstrap for getting started. |
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| 23:29:00 | fordcars | Oh and, hi :) |
| 23:29:13 | tazinator_ | It's Line of Sight, just goes to you and shoots in the angle you're facing |
| 23:29:27 | tazinator_ | like those bonus ships in galaga |
| 23:30:12 | tazinator_ | the code is real simple compard to sentinel |
| 23:30:14 | fordcars | Iraliaf: I think you need to go in the build dir and cmake |
| 23:30:21 | fordcars | cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug .. |
| 23:30:23 | fordcars | :) |
| 23:30:51 | tazinator_ | Go to any stock map and add like 10 drones :): http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2305&p=23169#p23169 |
| 23:37:00 | Iraliaf | do i download "visual c++ 2010" |
| 23:37:15 | Iraliaf | im having trouble finding a link for visual studio 2010 |
| 23:37:20 | Iraliaf | even on the microsoft site |
| 23:38:57 | Iraliaf | also - im getting this error when trying to cmake:CMake Error: The source directory "C:/Users/Jeffrey/Desktop/bit/bitfighter/build " does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt. |
| 23:41:10 | Iraliaf | i had a bunch of options for different visual studio downloads so i picked visual c++ 2010 express. is that right? |
| 23:42:09 | raptor | i have to go |
| 23:42:20 | raptor | Iraliaf: here is a good place to start: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/GCI_Student_Bootstrap |
| 23:42:24 | raptor | later! |
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| 23:42:26 | Iraliaf | im there man lol |
| 23:43:02 | Nothing_Much | welcome to the club Iraliaf! |
| 23:43:28 | tazinator_ | gci what ? |
| 23:46:08 | Watusimoto | tazinator_: get a standalone irc client if you are using the website irc client |
| 23:46:31 | Watusimoto | Iraliaf: what platform are you on? |
| 23:46:42 | Iraliaf | i got it working.. im an idiot :P |
| 23:46:48 | Watusimoto | good! |
| 23:53:03 | Iraliaf | ok i have my solution explorer open with the game source. how do i compile an exe from that in vs2010? |
| 23:53:35 | Iraliaf | and do you compile the solution or individual projects? |
| 23:53:40 | Watusimoto | did you do the cmake steps? |
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| 23:54:42 | Tazinator | k, got a standalone |
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| 23:55:16 | Iraliaf | i used cmake to make a visual studio 2010 solution |
| 23:55:22 | Iraliaf | i opened the solution |
| 23:55:32 | Iraliaf | now im trying to just see if i can compile a playable exe |
| 23:56:04 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 23:56:07 | Watusimoto | you should be set |
| 23:56:18 | Watusimoto | the easiest way is to press F8 |
| 23:56:26 | Watusimoto | but not the fastest |
| 23:57:44 | Watusimoto | See http://i.imgur.com/FcZcwuz.png |
| 23:58:16 | Watusimoto | try to get the bitfighter entry in the solution exploerer bolded (alt-p-a works for me) |
| 23:58:31 | Watusimoto | select debug build (slower but easier to find problems) |
| 23:58:42 | Watusimoto | and click the play button |
| 23:59:34 | Iraliaf | it said a bunch of projects were out of date and that they needed to be built |
| 23:59:36 | Iraliaf | lol |
| 23:59:59 | Iraliaf | it was bolded |
