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00:07:22fordcars_debHellu
00:07:56Nothing_MuchHowdy fordcars_deb
00:08:03fordcars_debWhen is the BBB again?
00:08:27sam686my internet outage this time was caused by me unplugging the wrong ethernet code (unplugged my internet connection)
00:08:29fordcars_debNext Friday?
00:08:38Nothing_Muchfordcars_deb: This Friday dude!
00:08:43fordcars_debYeaaahhhh
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02:23:40fordcars_debraptor: I think /getmap should replace the older version of that map, like that, if you download the same map twice by accident, everything is good :)
02:23:49raptoragreed!
02:28:49fordcars_deb:)
02:43:29fordcars_debWow having too many levels crashes Bitfighter when they load
02:44:47raptorfordcars_deb: huh??
02:45:04fordcars_debUh wait, no it's a specific level?!?
02:45:18raptorprobably a specific one
02:45:25raptoron 019b or dev?
02:45:45fordcars_deb019b
02:46:00fordcars_debAhhh haha
02:46:11fordcars_debIt couldn't find a bot 'autobot'
02:46:28raptorhard crash when not finding a default bot?
02:48:27fordcars_debAH non-default bot
02:48:31fordcars_deb*a
02:48:41raptorbut hard crash?
02:48:45fordcars_debYes
02:48:52raptoryuk, ok, how do i duplicate
02:49:20fordcars_debWell, write in the level file 'Robot 0 botName'
02:49:43raptorok
02:50:45fordcars_debMan, now it still crashes but for a different reason, nothing in the log
02:50:54fordcars_debIt loads all of the leves, then crashes
02:51:05raptoryep, sure does!
02:51:06fordcars_debI just did a big /getmap campaign
02:51:08raptortaking a look
02:51:11fordcars_debHah
02:51:49fordcars_debOh wait I know
02:51:59fordcars_debI think it also crashes when the levegen is not there?
02:52:05fordcars_debOh no it couldn't
02:52:58raptoruhh, it's crashing all the time now..
02:53:07raptorwatusimoto must have done something
02:53:31fordcars_debMe t5oo
02:53:33fordcars_deb*too
02:53:37fordcars_debBut in 019b :O
02:54:09fordcars_debHahahaha
02:54:26fordcars_debYeah, having a bot in a level file that you don't have kills Bitfighter
02:54:39fordcars_debLiterally, I can't host at all, even with one default level
02:54:44fordcars_debIn 019a
02:54:46fordcars_deb*b
02:58:52raptorfordcars_deb: i cannot duplicate...
02:59:36raptori just get: Could not find bot file
02:59:38fordcars_debWell Bitfghter hosting won't work anymore at all
02:59:45fordcars_debraptor, get rid of that level
02:59:49fordcars_debIt just crashes
02:59:51fordcars_debAlways
02:59:55raptorhow
03:00:03fordcars_deb*Magic*
03:00:08raptorno, how do i get rid of it
03:00:18raptori'm trying to duplicate your bug exactly so i need exact instructions
03:00:24fordcars_debUh, go to /.bitfighter/levels
03:00:36fordcars_debSure
03:00:54fordcars_deb1. Get a level that demands a certain bot that you don't have
03:01:06fordcars_deb2. Open Bitfighter, attempt to host, watch it crash
03:01:13fordcars_deb3. Delete that levelfile
03:01:23fordcars_deb4. Try to host again, still crashes
03:01:30fordcars_deb5. Cry
03:02:19fordcars_debindows 8
03:02:21fordcars_deb*w
03:02:27raptorhmmm...
03:02:35raptorstill cannot dupe - let me try something else
03:02:52fordcars_debI was Hosting In-game
03:07:22raptornope, cannot dupe...
03:07:38raptori will boto up windows 8..
03:08:05fordcars_debOk, I think I'll need to reinstall
03:08:19raptoractually - i don't have a win8 vm...
03:08:22raptori'll test in win7
03:20:06raptorfordcars_deb: still can't dupe
03:20:11fordcars_debAww
03:20:18fordcars_debMaybe it was just bad luck
03:20:25raptorwhat i think is wrong is something else is making it crash, but the robot message is the last one you're seeing
03:20:54fordcars_debBut now I only have 1 default level and it still crashes
03:21:14raptoreven after restarting the game?
03:21:47fordcars_debYeah
03:21:52fordcars_debI did it multiple times
03:21:55fordcars_debIt's dead
03:21:58raptorok, can you send me your INI?
03:22:01fordcars_debSure
03:22:06raptorremove your password first, of course
03:22:18raptormaybe do it in a PM, too..
03:23:05fordcars_debOf course, I did that mistake once :)
03:27:26raptorrats, no crashies
03:28:01raptorwhen you get a crash, does the microsoft crash reporter give any info?
03:28:12raptorlike a stack trace hidden in some 'more info' screen?
03:30:42fordcars_debUhm
03:30:56fordcars_debNope
03:31:21fordcars_deb:(
03:31:24fordcars_debVery weird
03:31:39raptorsounds like a memory error maybe? maybe with some weird graphics state of th emachine?
03:35:59fordcars_debMaybe, well joining a server is fine
03:36:09fordcars_debMaybe after a restart it'll be god
03:36:11fordcars_deb*good
03:37:05raptormaybe because hosting tries to open a port?
03:37:39fordcars_debUhm, I don't think it has to do with that, it worked fine before trying the level
03:37:45fordcars_debBut maybe
03:37:47fordcars_debI don't know
03:42:03sam686what level does it seem to crash on if any?
03:42:18fordcars_debNone :O
03:42:25fordcars_debWell, all of them
03:42:29sam686if it crash while hosting, if you had game recording on you can look at game recording...
03:42:32fordcars_debI tried a few
03:42:53sam686does it crash only while hosting or somewhere else like editor?
03:42:54fordcars_debIt crahses when it loads all the levels
03:43:08fordcars_debWell, when it is done loading
03:43:48raptori blame weird memory or other highly specific system error
03:44:28sam686Does test from editor work?
03:45:05sam686or try moving all but a level out of levels folder and try hosting?
03:45:26fordcars_debIt crashes when i test
03:45:41fordcars_debI actually already did that
03:46:47sam686In editor, does editor plugins work? (ctrl+; or something)
03:48:31fordcars_debYeah they work
03:48:41fordcars_debIt looks like it can't interpret level files
03:49:12sam686well... loading a map into editor works but hosting crash?
03:51:22fordcars_debYes, weird!
03:51:38fordcars_debMight be some network thing I guess
03:51:54sam686In a host > robots menu, is "Play with bots" set to NO ?
03:51:58fordcars_debLike Raptor said
03:52:23fordcars_debYes
03:53:29fordcars_debHmmm
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03:58:52sam686umm fordcars_deb what operating system are you using?
04:02:34fordcars_debWIndows 8.1
04:02:38fordcars_deb:)
04:02:54sam686whats the "deb" part of your name? linux debian?
04:03:42sam686you can try my build http://sam6.25u.com/upload/bitfighter-019b-48a2410bda97.zip does that also crash on you?
04:03:59raptori can't host a game with watusimoto's latest changes..
04:04:00sam686note that has the newest commits..
04:04:28fordcars_debOh yeah it stands for debian, but I am on Windows right now :P
04:08:39sam686I have a problem now on latest commits, LevelDir=../../levels keeps resettings to LevelDir=levels in bitfighter.ini
04:08:51fordcars_debIt works fine!
04:08:58sam686I even made my bitfighter.ini read only, and it refuse to use LevelDir=../../levels
04:08:59raptoryeah, watusimoto's settings changes have broken things
04:09:06fordcars_debMaybe my Bitfighter is currupted
04:14:47raptori'm heading in. night!
04:15:27fordcars_debNight!
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14:41:41raptorgood morning!
14:50:45watusimotohola. amigo
14:50:55raptorbuenos!
14:51:23raptortime to continue my 019c pick list..
14:51:30watusimotoyou should see this query my colleague wrote
14:51:31watusimotohttp://hastebin.com/wadipeseqa.txt
14:51:37watusimotoit's a doozie
14:51:51watusimotohe wrote it in ms word
14:51:59raptorwhat the crazy!
14:52:04watusimotono kidding
14:52:05raptorover 400 lines??
14:52:11raptorthat seems like a data model problem
14:52:20watusimotoI need to figure out what this is doing and simplify it
14:52:25watusimotobut not today
14:52:51watusimotobecause this is just a bit out of control
14:53:31raptorit looks like he's just using the same table over and over
14:53:36watusimotoyes
14:53:47watusimotohe seems to be converting rows into columns
14:54:18raptorand there are constant multipliers throughout
14:54:31watusimotoyes
14:54:38raptoryep data model problem
15:35:57kaen_fun!
15:36:11kaen_I'm optimizing analytics queries this morning
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15:37:08raptorblech
15:38:25kaen_it's monstrous. takes 1000+ user rows, then does six queries (including a 2-hop join) per row, then iterates over the results of those queries
15:38:34kaen_in ruby.
15:38:58kaen_we're actually not having a cpu problem... it's exploding to over 1GB of ram
15:39:21kaen_and I found out this morning that even after ruby (eventually) gc's it, it doesn't actually return the memory to the system.
15:39:55kaen_so the web server start's gasping for memory
15:39:58kaen_it's beautiful
15:44:08raptorBLECH
15:49:42watusimotosounds like fun!
15:50:05watusimotokaen_: you're working as a contractor?
15:51:05kaen_yep
15:51:16watusimotocan I ask where you find your gigs?
15:51:20kaen_it's already been a crazy ride
15:51:37kaen_odesk.com which is like elance
15:52:19kaen_it's great compared to stocking shelves :)
15:52:30raptori love how the only picture without sunlight is the one above 'Software Developers'
15:52:51watusimotostocking shelves sounds pretty good compared to optimizing queries "-)
15:52:53watusimoto:-)
15:52:58watusimotoemoticon fail
15:53:12kaen_hehe
15:54:14raptori can't find you on there...
15:54:36kaen_I think my profile is set to private
15:55:02kaen_I couldn't keep up with all the invitations to interview, and there's a metric about how responsive you are
15:56:07watusimotoa lot of the projects have pretty low budgets for the work...
15:56:57watusimoto$10 to optimize a query?
15:57:03raptorno way
15:57:06raptori'd stock shelves
15:57:16kaen_I don't mess around with fixed price gigs
15:57:29kaen_they don't even guarantee you'll get paid.
15:57:44kaen_I do jobs at an hourly rate, which is guaranteed.
15:57:55watusimotoit's the only sane way to go
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16:01:40bobdaduckwebsite splode?
16:03:03watusimotolooks like mysql is unhappy
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16:10:05watusimotoor something...
16:11:25raptorcurrent flashplayer in linux has the ability to reboot your machine when watching BBC videos
16:16:30watusimotoraptor: mysqld.log is full of errors like this:
16:16:39watusimoto140331 16:02:42 [ERROR] Got error 134 when reading table './bf_phpbb/phpbb_sessions'
16:16:44watusimotoshould I restart it?
16:16:55raptori'll do it
16:17:05watusimotook
16:17:28raptordone, both mysql and httpd
16:18:06watusimotouh oh
16:18:19watusimotogot this when accessing the forums
16:18:19watusimotoTable './bf_phpbb/phpbb_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired [145]
16:18:35raptorWHAT
16:18:46watusimotohttp://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2317&view=unread&sid=81853478b40cd60cf8044002932a61dd#unread
16:18:48raptorok, i'll repair it
16:18:53watusimotook
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16:19:44Skybaxraptor, watusimoto, bitfighter.org just had a 145 SQL error
16:19:51watusimotoyes
16:19:53raptorworking on it!
16:20:03Skybax:D
16:21:06raptorfixed?
16:21:12SkybaxYep!
16:21:24SkybaxAnd my name shows up now!
16:21:25watusimotoindeed it appears to be
16:21:49raptorfyi, i selected teh table in phpmyadmin and did a 'repair table' operation on it
16:22:01watusimotomagic!
16:22:21watusimotoit probably wipes the table
16:22:34raptoris said - table repaired, 217 rows changed to 712...
16:22:38raptor*it
16:22:38SkybaxIn web design class, "mysql" always made me say "my squirrel"
16:22:46watusimotomaybe the digits were scrambled!
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16:26:36raptorwhat a weird error
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16:30:19raptorok, i thought i had 019c ready... then taz comes up with another bug...
16:32:51raptoryes, teleporters probably need to be replaced...
16:32:58raptortheir rendering, i mean
16:34:25watusimotoreplace teleporters?
16:34:45raptorjust how they're rendered - to make them more vector-y
16:34:55watusimotooh, I see... I wasn't proposing that
16:35:02raptori know they're classic...
16:35:08watusimotothough I have asked myself that in the past
16:35:11raptorbut they don't fit style-wise, in my opinion
16:35:16watusimotoI'm not sure we would come up with anything better
16:35:26watusimotobut would be open to any ideas!
16:35:50raptoralso their rendering method needs serious documentation
16:36:45watusimotonot if we replace them with something vectory :-)
16:37:08raptori think i attempted drawing them once...
16:37:25raptorbut didn't have a good handle on opengl at the time
16:41:34raptorha! I did: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/4screenshot_3.png
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16:44:23Skybax_I like the way teleporters are rendered...
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16:55:20raptoroh stink, tomorrow is april fool's day
16:55:33bobdaducklol
16:56:26raptorthat ONE time I put toothpaste in my sister's shoes had come back to haunt me again and again whenever we were in the same area
16:56:39bobdaducklol
16:56:47bobdaduckWill the "I have to restart bitfighter to clear my script cache" thing be gone in 019c?
16:57:42raptorscript cache can be cleared with /clearcache, unless you are in the editor
16:57:51raptorin which case it isn't cached
16:57:56raptorare you seeing weird problems?
16:58:05bobdaduckyes?
16:58:09bobdaduckLike ever since 019?
16:58:31raptordid i help you solve some issues that turned out to be a script problem on your part?
16:59:04bobdaduckProbably
16:59:09bobdaduckBut like scripts will crash
16:59:20bobdaduckand then any time you load the level for the rest of forever the script won't load
16:59:21raptorohhhh
16:59:24bobdaduckand you have to restart bitfighter
16:59:35raptoroh yeah - I have fixed script crashing problems... want to test?
16:59:43bobdaduckNo
17:00:36raptori can't convince you to beta test for me? 019c is pretty solid, i think...
17:00:44raptor:)
17:01:51bobdaduckI mean I can
17:01:57bobdaduckbut 019b has been pretty solid too
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17:31:19raptorok bobdaduck, this shoudl be much less crasy with scripts: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/Bitfighter-windows-019c-beta.zip
17:31:23raptor*crashy
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17:38:49bobdaduckDo I havvve toooo
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17:41:24raptorno
17:41:36raptorbut it would kind - i'm plannign on starting the release tonight...
17:41:40raptor*be kind
17:41:49raptortest that your scripts are not crashy
17:43:29bobdaduckoh okay.
17:44:14bobdaduckYeah I'll take a look at it
17:44:22bobdaduckI haven't done the thumb-drive format thing yet is all
17:44:47raptordid you get a different drive?
17:45:14bobdaduckNo
17:45:30bobdaduckI'm leaving in a week and a half, so no point
17:45:37raptorha!
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18:42:39no_muHi everyone
18:47:18bobdaduckHI
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19:10:40no_muwhat's up?
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19:30:59bobdaduckJust hangin'
19:31:01bobdaduckworkin'
19:31:03bobdaducklivin'
19:31:05bobdaduckTM
19:32:11no_munice
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20:29:55raptorI'm think I'll take a stab at that editor resize bug tazinator talked about, merge in stardust (add Polywallify) and then start the release (after I get home tonight)
20:30:00raptor*thinking
20:30:12raptorunless bobdaduck says I broke all of his scripts again
20:30:21bobdaduckSorry I've been busy at work xD
21:03:51fordcars_debHi
21:04:10raptorhello
21:05:02fordcars_debI think reinstalling Bitfighter will repair my hosting problem, sam's version works fine
21:05:14fordcars_debIt is just weird
21:05:23raptorthat's weird it became corrupt
21:06:00fordcars_debSince when can it even modify itself?
21:17:03bobdaduckI'll have to look at 019c when I get home sorry
21:17:35raptorcompletely understandable
21:17:39raptori'm at work too :)
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21:33:23no_muOMG
21:34:00no_muOMG
21:34:19no_muWORDPRESS WORKED HERE
21:34:24no_muWOOO
21:37:05no_muOkay
21:37:19no_muThat was incredibly easy
21:37:31no_muNow all I have to do is hope that the VM fits on my Flash drive
21:41:46no_muI'm hoping I can contribute to the website now!
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22:07:31Tazinatorhi
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22:17:50no_muHi again
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22:30:06no_muHey sam686
22:30:09no_muSkybax:
22:30:27SkybaxHi
22:30:49no_muWhat's going on?
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22:33:09SkybaxNothing Much
22:33:35no_muCool
22:37:37SkybaxI got a perm and stuff
22:39:56no_muA what?
22:40:01no_muIs that a hairstyle?
22:48:44SkybaxYes
22:48:45Skybaxlol
22:51:30no_muOh my
22:54:36fordcars_debWhoa
22:54:57no_muHey fordcars_deb
22:56:15fordcars_debHi
22:57:41no_muWhat's up?
22:58:03fordcars_debI think I am going to finish Yoshi's bot, and work on Skybot
22:58:10no_muYoshibot?
22:58:12no_mu:o
22:58:14no_muOh cool
22:58:16fordcars_debYeah :P
22:58:19fordcars_debIt
22:58:25fordcars_deb's kindof a repair bot
22:58:32SkybaxYay Skybot!
22:58:39fordcars_debHehe
22:58:52SkybaxHow is Yoshi's repairbot different from the normal repairbot?
22:58:57fordcars_debOnly one bug left with him I think (Skybot)
22:59:02fordcars_debSkybax: pretty much the same
22:59:08fordcars_debBut plays games too
22:59:13fordcars_debAnd talks
22:59:13Skybaxlol oh okay that's cool
22:59:29SkybaxTalking bots are all the rage
22:59:30no_muWhy was emilybot not moving at all?
22:59:33fordcars_debBut he didn't send me the lines yet :O Well he did, but I lost them :3
22:59:34SkybaxI'm such a trend-setter
22:59:43fordcars_debEmilybot?
22:59:48fordcars_debSkybax: totally
23:00:17no_mufordcars_deb: Or maybe it was elizabot?
23:00:19no_muidk
23:00:22no_mucan't remember the name
23:00:28no_muBut it was vulgar but didn't move at all
23:00:35no_muWhen I added it to my server once
23:00:44no_muIt's one of the included ones in BF though
23:00:58fordcars_debYeah :)
23:01:05fordcars_debIt doesn't move
23:01:17no_muwhy not? lol
23:01:21fordcars_debIt was Watusimoto replica of one of the first chat bot I think, it says in the file
23:01:25fordcars_deb:)
23:02:03no_munice
23:02:39SkybaxElizabot is the crazy only-caps bot that doesn't move at all
23:02:54SkybaxI think it says it's a therapist, as well
23:02:55no_mulol yeah
23:03:00no_muwait
23:03:02no_mutherapist?
23:03:03fordcars_debYeppp
23:03:05no_muthat's even funnier
23:03:10fordcars_debOne of it's lines :P
23:03:22SkybaxWhenever you say stuff it's like "AND HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?"
23:03:28Skybax"PLEASE TELL ME MORE"
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23:05:26no_mulol
23:06:07no_muwb Skybax_
23:06:16Skybax_Haha xD
23:06:22Skybax_Now I'm actually leaving haaaa
23:06:24Skybax_Seeya lata
23:06:26fordcars_debIS THAT SO?
23:06:41no_muoh l8r dude
23:06:57fordcars_deblater skybax, I'll try to update Skybot
23:07:05fordcars_deb'Officially'
23:07:19Skybax_:D
23:07:41fordcars_deb:)
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23:45:31kaenwhitespace operator overloading in c++ http://www.stroustrup.com/whitespace98.pdf
23:48:49fordcars_debWow
23:49:17fordcars_deb?
23:49:26fordcars_debI have no idea
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23:58:45raptorkaen: that's crazy - surely that person who did that proposal was high
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