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| 01:01:18 | Skybax | Uh oh, raptor, sql error again! |
| 01:01:45 | raptor | ok, i'll check it out |
| 01:03:12 | raptor | ok, all good |
| 01:03:33 | amgine123 | Bf link to stats? |
| 01:06:13 | Tazinator | i dont see the last hour in irc logs? |
| 01:06:25 | Tazinator | or at least i didnt find my name in it |
| 01:06:44 | Tazinator | http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2014-04-01 |
| 01:06:52 | raptor | that's what happens when bitfighter.org goes down |
| 01:07:32 | Tazinator | shoot.. |
| 01:07:41 | Tazinator | did you ever figure out anything about the pastie i posted? |
| 01:08:01 | raptor | nope - you need to fix your indentation first |
| 01:08:09 | Tazinator | k :D |
| 01:10:52 | Tazinator | i think the only problem is teamindex anyway |
| 01:11:17 | Tazinator | ill paste when i get back home |
| 01:11:19 | Tazinator | later |
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| 01:21:33 | amgine123 | raptor would it be hard to add a "stats tab" to bitfighter.org |
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| 01:27:08 | amgine123 | raptor why havent kill streaks ever been implemented |
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| 01:59:24 | kaen | they have been, amgine123 |
| 01:59:34 | amgine123 | they are not in stats ? |
| 01:59:42 | kaen | hmm good point |
| 01:59:50 | amgine123 | btw click here for a cool dubstep music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAISUDbjXj0 |
| 01:59:51 | kaen | I don't even know if they are tracked, actually |
| 02:00:23 | amgine123 | would it be hard to implement by BF 20 ? |
| 02:00:34 | amgine123 | or is there BF19d first ;) |
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| 02:33:44 | amgine123 | deadity |
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| 03:19:27 | Tazinator | ahhhhhhh velocity is still playing tricks on my mind |
| 03:20:02 | Tazinator | blaaaaaa |
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| 03:31:01 | amgine123 | anonme up for a few matches? |
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| 04:24:10 | Tazinator | ford |
| 04:26:19 | Tazinator | fordcars_deb |
| 04:28:24 | fordcars_deb | HI |
| 04:28:26 | fordcars_deb | *Hi |
| 04:28:31 | Tazinator | HI! HAWAII |
| 04:28:37 | fordcars_deb | HI! |
| 04:28:45 | Tazinator | BEST STATE |
| 04:28:47 | Tazinator | AFTER NEW YORK |
| 04:28:51 | fordcars_deb | Hah |
| 04:29:01 | Tazinator | did you hear about chile |
| 04:29:08 | Tazinator | big earthquake |
| 04:29:17 | fordcars_deb | Uh no> |
| 04:29:20 | fordcars_deb | :/ |
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| 04:29:27 | Tazinator | we got the TSUNAMI watch here |
| 04:29:44 | fordcars_deb | Heh, never had those here :P |
| 04:30:00 | fordcars_deb | It's snowing! |
| 04:30:04 | Tazinator | no fair! |
| 04:30:11 | Tazinator | we get snow.. but only on the mountain |
| 04:30:16 | Tazinator | mountains |
| 04:30:37 | fordcars_deb | Yeah I guess so, but you got awesome beaches |
| 04:30:39 | fordcars_deb | :D |
| 04:32:43 | Tazinator | but i dont like the beach |
| 04:32:49 | Tazinator | well i do |
| 04:32:51 | Tazinator | just not the water |
| 04:35:15 | Tazinator | polywallify is interesting |
| 04:35:59 | Tazinator | it deserves an instant hotkey.. like enter/return |
| 04:40:18 | Tazinator | waaat |
| 04:40:25 | Tazinator | polywallify only works one way |
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| 05:13:31 | raptor | good evening! |
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| 05:19:30 | raptor | nice rendition!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um6UqoJl6Vo |
| 05:23:41 | Tazinator | raptor: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2342&p=23462#p23462 |
| 05:23:49 | Tazinator | is the levelgen, if you;re nt sleeping now |
| 05:23:56 | raptor | hi |
| 05:24:07 | Tazinator | hello |
| 05:24:59 | raptor | you didn't clean the indentation! |
| 05:25:03 | raptor | looking... |
| 05:26:37 | Tazinator | I diddddd |
| 05:26:46 | raptor | you sure didn't! |
| 05:26:53 | raptor | did you read my post on that? |
| 05:26:59 | raptor | the whitespace/indentation post |
| 05:27:54 | raptor | ok |
| 05:27:57 | raptor | what's your error |
| 05:28:01 | raptor | i have it cleaned up now |
| 05:28:02 | Tazinator | it |
| 05:28:22 | Tazinator | is supposed to move the ships on team 1 southeast |
| 05:28:28 | Tazinator | and the ships on team 2 northwest |
| 05:28:34 | Tazinator | (up = north) |
| 05:28:41 | Tazinator | but it does nothing |
| 05:31:16 | raptor | ok, i'll test it out... you probably just need a better understanding of vectors |
| 05:31:23 | raptor | do you know what a vector is? |
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| 05:31:34 | Tazinator | uhhh... a line from one point to the next? |
| 05:31:48 | raptor | that's a scalar |
| 05:32:14 | raptor | a vector is a direction + something (usually speed or distance) |
| 05:32:30 | raptor | so think of a compass |
| 05:33:03 | raptor | you say go north 10 miles! |
| 05:33:06 | raptor | that's a vector |
| 05:33:16 | Tazinator | ok |
| 05:33:36 | raptor | so the idea of direction is very important |
| 05:33:41 | raptor | how much math have you had? |
| 05:33:50 | Tazinator | alg 2 |
| 05:33:55 | raptor | ok perfect |
| 05:33:55 | Tazinator | 2010 |
| 05:34:02 | raptor | you know the coordinate plane? |
| 05:34:05 | raptor | x/y plane |
| 05:34:11 | Tazinator | i might need to retake algebra |
| 05:34:15 | raptor | we all do |
| 05:34:20 | Tazinator | a plane is a flat surface right? |
| 05:34:27 | raptor | you remember the x/y plane |
| 05:34:28 | raptor | yes |
| 05:34:39 | Tazinator | not sure what the x/y part means |
| 05:34:57 | raptor | are you willing to learn? because I'm willing to show you right now if you have a moment |
| 05:35:36 | Tazinator | i dont have |
| 05:35:45 | Tazinator | im home, but also babysitting |
| 05:35:58 | raptor | hey me too! |
| 05:36:31 | raptor | ok, i'll test your script a bit and see if there isn't something obvious |
| 05:36:53 | raptor | but I recommend that you really understand coordinates and vectors if you want to continue to do fun stuff with scripts |
| 05:38:22 | Tazinator | ok |
| 05:38:42 | raptor | it's not that hard, you just have to get used to it (again) |
| 05:39:27 | raptor | what is the 600 check for in the script? |
| 05:39:49 | Tazinator | speed |
| 05:40:06 | Tazinator | otherwise you'll just keep going faster |
| 05:40:37 | Tazinator | it's top speed |
| 05:41:20 | raptor | did you look at orbitbot? |
| 05:41:28 | raptor | it has velocity adjustments in there |
| 05:43:28 | destroyerimo_ | whats ucp.php? |
| 05:44:06 | raptor | user control panel |
| 05:44:44 | destroyerimo_ | oh |
| 05:47:13 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/cacti/graph_view.php Thats my network usage (eth0 = internet) |
| 05:47:55 | Tazinator | raptor: omnispace is sort of broken |
| 05:48:06 | Tazinator | i say sort of because half the time it works |
| 05:48:15 | raptor | you'll have to ask thread to fix it |
| 05:48:17 | sam686 | My increase of bandwidth was my twitch streaming ps3 console |
| 05:56:07 | sam686 | In case bf logbot didn't record everything, I have this log file from my ISC http://sam6.25u.com/upload/channel_%23bitfighter.freenode_2014.04.01.log |
| 05:56:20 | sam686 | *** IRC (not ISC) |
| 05:58:47 | raptor | well Tazinator, i'm not sure exact the problem right now |
| 05:59:03 | raptor | probably because i'm getting a little fuzzy-headed from it being late |
| 06:06:08 | raptor | i'm going to head to bed... maybe someone can take a look tomorrow |
| 06:06:10 | raptor | night! |
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| 06:30:34 | Tazinator | figured out a new milestone |
| 06:30:42 | Tazinator | but raptor is gone.. oh well, see in mornign! |
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| 06:57:03 | Tazinator | VELOCITY IS WEIRD. That's my current analysis |
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| 07:08:36 | sam686 | bitfighter.org (/var/log/http/access_log-20140309) has: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1404/140402_02-05-05.txt |
| 07:09:29 | sam686 | it repeats thousands of times same ip address keeps downloading the same zip file over and over again, eating over 50 GB of server usage at March 25, 2014 |
| 07:12:07 | sam686 | Its for something raptor / watusimoto could look at.. |
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| 11:41:18 | Nothing_Much | Hey guys |
| 11:41:29 | Nothing_Much | I need to know what the status is on dual monitor support |
| 11:41:43 | Nothing_Much | Or how to keep it from stretching on both monitors |
| 11:43:44 | Nothing_Much | oh hey, new release? |
| 11:44:22 | watusimoto | yeah, 019c |
| 11:44:29 | watusimoto | some bug fixes |
| 11:53:54 | Nothing_Much | Ah cool |
| 11:54:04 | Nothing_Much | also, about dual monitor support? |
| 11:54:15 | watusimoto | what platform, linux? |
| 11:54:18 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 11:54:55 | watusimoto | I don't know... I can reproduce the problem |
| 11:55:29 | Nothing_Much | Well it just needs to not stretch over both monitors |
| 11:55:37 | Nothing_Much | Is there something in the .ini file? |
| 11:56:28 | Nothing_Much | bbl |
| 11:56:50 | watusimoto | no |
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| 13:35:56 | Nothing_Much | Ah okay |
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| 13:48:08 | raptor | good morning! |
| 13:48:12 | Nothing_Much | mornin' raptor |
| 13:49:43 | Nothing_Much | raptor: did 019c get that autologin feature fixed? |
| 13:50:09 | raptor | yes |
| 13:50:23 | raptor | you may read the complete changelog here: http://bitfighter.org/downloads#changes |
| 13:50:36 | | raptor changes topic to 'Welcome everyone! Feel free to ask anything! | Bitfighter 019c released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads | Forums http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | Channel logs http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/' |
| 13:50:38 | Nothing_Much | ah nice |
| 13:51:05 | Nothing_Much | 019b is still in the debian downloads |
| 13:51:15 | Nothing_Much | unless someone forgot to change the name |
| 13:51:19 | raptor | nope |
| 13:51:22 | Nothing_Much | nope, same version |
| 13:51:28 | raptor | I mean, yes, they are still old version |
| 13:51:41 | raptor | I thought I added a note that ditro-specific stuff may lag.. |
| 13:52:19 | Nothing_Much | I don't see it |
| 13:52:38 | Nothing_Much | Is it in the notes? |
| 13:53:10 | raptor | oh, it's in the first paragraph here: http://bitfighter.org/downloads#linux |
| 13:53:20 | raptor | it takes me a little while to build them all |
| 13:53:21 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 13:53:24 | Nothing_Much | doi, I'm blind |
| 13:53:43 | raptor | which package do you use? i can do that one first |
| 13:53:54 | Nothing_Much | .deb's (ubuntu) |
| 13:54:01 | raptor | what version/arch ? |
| 13:54:25 | Nothing_Much | 14.04, amd64 |
| 13:54:40 | raptor | sorry, i mean which of our 'unofficial' packages do you use? |
| 13:54:48 | Nothing_Much | .deb? |
| 13:55:14 | raptor | i usuaully provide debian 6/7 i386/amd64 .debs |
| 13:55:23 | raptor | whcih of those do you use? |
| 13:55:34 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 13:55:35 | Nothing_Much | 7 |
| 13:55:40 | Nothing_Much | but it most likely doesn't matter |
| 13:55:47 | Nothing_Much | since everything's mostly backwards compatible |
| 13:55:55 | raptor | 32 or 64 bit? |
| 13:56:10 | Nothing_Much | 64 |
| 13:56:19 | raptor | excellent... that's what I was after :) |
| 13:57:25 | Nothing_Much | woo! |
| 13:57:31 | Nothing_Much | aw man, ubuntu one's going down! |
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| 14:08:49 | raptor | well we know that arm7l and ppc64 build for openSUSE 13.1! |
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| 14:10:16 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 14:26:55 | raptor | oh fedora 20 was released |
| 14:27:17 | Nothing_Much | whoa, really? |
| 14:28:01 | raptor | Nothing_Much: here are debian 7 .debs for 019c: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dbuck/Debian_7.0/ |
| 14:29:29 | Nothing_Much | oh nice |
| 14:35:25 | raptor | ok all debian builds done |
| 14:35:55 | Nothing_Much | auto login works! |
| 14:35:57 | Nothing_Much | :D |
| 14:48:30 | raptor | hooray! |
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| 15:17:59 | raptor | watusimoto: 019c was updated successfully... I still have to do desura builds, but everything else is done |
| 15:18:11 | watusimoto | hey there |
| 15:18:17 | raptor | as far as files are concerned, i mean |
| 15:18:36 | watusimoto | when did the files become ok to upload? |
| 15:18:48 | raptor | last night when you were asleep |
| 15:18:58 | watusimoto | ok, good, then the new files are on gamejolt |
| 15:19:14 | watusimoto | I did them this morning |
| 15:19:45 | watusimoto | I just need to write up a notice of the changes |
| 15:20:00 | raptor | you can see full changelog: http://bitfighter.org/downloads#changes |
| 15:20:16 | watusimoto | I didn't realize there were that many! |
| 15:20:38 | raptor | yes... and not a single commit by watusimoto! :-) |
| 15:20:46 | watusimoto | a first ever! |
| 15:21:31 | watusimoto | I also tried to get the gamejolt "download and run" (or whatever it's called) to work for linux, but couldn't |
| 15:22:01 | raptor | i'm not sure i know what that is.. |
| 15:22:20 | watusimoto | you basically click a link, and the file gets downloaded and runs |
| 15:22:35 | watusimoto | so it would work with a portable install, for example, if it worked |
| 15:22:44 | raptor | ah... it probably doesn't in linux because there's a million different ways to run a file from a GUI |
| 15:23:05 | watusimoto | it uses a little java applet, and I think that was where the failure was for me |
| 15:23:21 | watusimoto | but you specify the command to run after unpacking the archive |
| 15:23:32 | watusimoto | so it should be flexible enough to cover most situations |
| 15:24:02 | watusimoto | Nothing_Much was bugging me about a bug with full-screen on his dual monitor linux rig. I was able to verify the issue, but need to do more research on how to fix (if it can be fixed) |
| 15:24:03 | raptor | ah.. yes |
| 15:24:08 | raptor | java is a good equalizer |
| 15:24:09 | watusimoto | do you know anything about that? |
| 15:24:16 | raptor | yes |
| 15:24:29 | watusimoto | do you know if it can be fixed? |
| 15:24:30 | raptor | SDL 1.2 doesn't support dual monitors very well |
| 15:24:47 | watusimoto | is sdl2 any better? |
| 15:24:52 | raptor | which is what is used for most Linux distros... SDL 2 does it better, but i'm not sure if we need to add extra code for it |
| 15:25:19 | raptor | SDL 2 has full multi-monitor support |
| 15:25:22 | watusimoto | maybe we could build the portable linux isnstall with sdl2 |
| 15:25:36 | watusimoto | as that shouldn't depend on any system-installed libs |
| 15:25:49 | raptor | yes, but i don't have two monitors to test |
| 15:25:57 | watusimoto | I do |
| 15:26:03 | watusimoto | and Nothing_Much does |
| 15:26:12 | raptor | well, if you test on windows |
| 15:26:18 | raptor | it may tell us if it works out of the box |
| 15:26:24 | watusimoto | I have a dual monitor linux rig at work |
| 15:26:33 | watusimoto | but no dual monitor windows rig |
| 15:26:42 | raptor | ! |
| 15:26:47 | raptor | oops |
| 15:26:55 | watusimoto | logbot hears all |
| 15:27:09 | raptor | i wonder - sam686 probably has a dual monitor set up (if not 3 monitors) |
| 15:27:21 | raptor | he could tell us how sdl2 on windows is.. maybe |
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| 15:34:49 | raptor | i build the portable linux one based on ubuntu 10.04 distro |
| 15:35:29 | raptor | i'm not sure if SDL2 is available for that... although I can probably change the base distro to debian 6 |
| 15:36:22 | raptor | ok, yes, debian 6 is glibc 2.11 |
| 15:36:35 | raptor | ideally, i'd compile for glibc 2.7, i think |
| 15:36:48 | raptor | but i doubt many people are really running that old a distro |
| 15:37:40 | Nothing_Much | raptor: That's most likely pointless to actually compile against something that old |
| 15:38:02 | raptor | maybe... |
| 15:38:22 | raptor | the issue is that some people do run old 32bit glibc distros for long periods of time |
| 15:38:46 | raptor | but we don't do 2.7 now anyways |
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| 15:42:13 | raptor | yeah... i shoudl change standalone installer to debian 6 going forward |
| 15:44:34 | watusimoto | so glibc is a dependency we rely on the system to have? |
| 15:44:59 | raptor | glibc is essentially the core to any Linux system |
| 15:45:23 | watusimoto | yes, but it's a binary we dynamically link to, right? |
| 15:45:31 | raptor | yes |
| 15:45:50 | watusimoto | and everything else in the standalone is statically linked, right? |
| 15:45:52 | raptor | and older versions are guaranteed to run on newer versions |
| 15:46:00 | watusimoto | right |
| 15:46:01 | raptor | but not the other way around |
| 15:46:06 | watusimoto | of course :-) |
| 15:46:08 | raptor | no, not statically linked |
| 15:46:23 | raptor | i cheat and distribute other dynamic libs |
| 15:46:28 | watusimoto | ah, I see |
| 15:46:31 | raptor | that are linked to glibc2.11 also |
| 15:46:45 | watusimoto | so private copies of dynamic libs |
| 15:46:55 | raptor | yes |
| 15:47:03 | raptor | and the wrapper script will load those libs first |
| 15:47:07 | watusimoto | right |
| 15:47:08 | watusimoto | ok |
| 15:47:15 | watusimoto | but glibc is a bridge too far? |
| 15:47:23 | raptor | yep |
| 15:48:45 | raptor | if we did a static compile, then we could do glibc (and inflate the binary), but setting up that type of environment is a bit difficult |
| 15:49:00 | raptor | and time-consuming |
| 15:49:16 | raptor | but eventually we may be able to get there with our CMake build system |
| 15:50:23 | watusimoto | that would be awesome |
| 15:50:36 | watusimoto | someday... |
| 16:09:05 | raptor | hmm... looks like if we use gcc 4.5+ then it may be easier than I thought... |
| 16:11:38 | raptor | maybe i'll tinker with this instead of migrating the standalone install to debian 6.. |
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| 16:18:47 | watusimoto | :q |
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| 16:34:47 | raptor | :wq |
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| 16:49:39 | watusimoto | wrong window syndrome |
| 16:49:49 | watusimoto | ok, out of here... see you on the other side! |
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| 17:24:36 | Skybax | Goodmorning! |
| 17:25:23 | Nothing_Much | Hi Skybax |
| 17:25:31 | Skybax | What's up? |
| 17:25:38 | raptor | thank goodness april fools is over |
| 17:26:26 | Nothing_Much | nm, boredom |
| 17:27:08 | Skybax | Hahaha |
| 17:27:13 | Skybax | I thought April Fools was fun lol |
| 17:27:55 | Skybax | I didn't prank anyone, or get pranked by anyone, but it was fun watching everyone else x) |
| 17:28:44 | Nothing_Much | Lol |
| 17:28:53 | Nothing_Much | Yeah GameJolt had an April fool's joke lol |
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| 17:43:50 | raptor | oh goodie! it's net split time! |
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| 17:49:58 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
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| 17:50:35 | Watusimoto | Hi all... |
| 17:50:50 | Watusimoto | any idea why this level looks different than the others |
| 17:50:51 | raptor | hello |
| 17:50:52 | Watusimoto | http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/257 |
| 17:50:58 | raptor | yes |
| 17:51:16 | Watusimoto | is it because of the levelgen? |
| 17:51:18 | raptor | because tazinator used the 'show levelgen' in the editor |
| 17:51:23 | raptor | then took a screenshot with it |
| 17:51:32 | Watusimoto | interesting |
| 17:51:55 | Watusimoto | we probably need to think about how to handle levelgens with pleiades |
| 17:52:26 | raptor | we sort of have this 4th class of scripts |
| 17:52:48 | raptor | levelgens that do work in main() only to generate walls and such at the start of a level |
| 17:53:07 | raptor | and that get loaded by this mechanism |
| 17:53:18 | Watusimoto | those are the "classic" levelgens |
| 17:53:24 | raptor | yes |
| 17:53:44 | Watusimoto | but this level must be one of those |
| 17:53:50 | raptor | it is |
| 17:53:56 | raptor | he is using your mazegen script |
| 17:57:01 | Watusimoto | so perhaps I misunderstood... I thought you said that classic levelgens got their stuff into the screenshot |
| 17:58:04 | raptor | yes, he used the 'toggle script results' option in the editor |
| 17:58:07 | raptor | ctrl+K |
| 18:00:31 | Watusimoto | ah, that's right, the screeshot just takes a pic of the <holding-tab> preview |
| 18:00:37 | raptor | yes |
| 18:00:43 | Watusimoto | so levelgens aren't run |
| 18:01:05 | Watusimoto | perhaps in preview mode, levelgen walls should look like other walls, just as a matter of good practice |
| 18:01:23 | raptor | it's two step process - preview, save to level |
| 18:01:33 | raptor | ctrl+k, ctrl+i |
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| 18:18:08 | raptor | i just 'fixed' a coworkers computer |
| 18:18:26 | raptor | she had random keystrokes being entered in everywhere |
| 18:19:03 | raptor | turns out that another coworker had the exact same model wireless mouse/keyboard and the transmitter was only about 5 feet away (through the wall) and they were on the same frequency |
| 18:24:15 | Nothing_Much | I got Wordpress working! |
| 18:26:19 | Watusimoto | raptor: that's awesome! |
| 18:26:24 | Watusimoto | Nothing_Much: that's awesome! |
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| 18:38:02 | Nothing_Much | Does Bitfighter.org use an image that's tiled for the background or is it a gigantic image? |
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| 18:40:14 | raptor | a gigantic tile! |
| 18:40:57 | Nothing_Much | alright |
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| 18:43:31 | Skybax | Hey kaen, your comment on my level on Pleiades, what secrets were you referring to? x) |
| 18:48:11 | sam686 | multimonitor on windows works fine, fullscreen on only one monitor. long time ago on linux I had the fullscreen stretching problem, but I don't know what version of SDL this happens on.. |
| 18:48:47 | sam686 | I don't know if useFakeFullscreen in bitfighter.ini might fix it for old SDL1 |
| 18:49:12 | raptor | fakefullscreen does not fix it |
| 18:50:32 | sam686 | On windows I could get fullscreen to stretch 2 monitors using what ATI/AMD calls a graphics feature "eyefinity" |
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| 19:38:15 | sam686 | Looks like nobody was updating http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Bitfighter "hg up bitfighter-019a"? |
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| 19:53:21 | raptor | it's snowing! |
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| 20:11:54 | sam686 | Do you see the green dot in a "G" of "Bitfighter"? I only see it in my linux virtualbox http://sam6.25u.com/upload/bitfighter_g_has_green_dot.png |
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| 20:12:30 | sam686 | That dot only shows up at the main menu and at the login screen, it does not show up at the credits nor the TextItem "Bitfighter" |
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| 20:13:08 | raptor | dust on the screen? |
| 20:13:11 | raptor | (joking) |
| 20:13:31 | sam686 | Dust isn't green |
| 20:18:42 | bobdaduck | You can paint it green |
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| 20:35:05 | sam686 | Found out what it is... in MenuUserInterface::render() it is drawCenteredUnderlinedString drawing a green dot on an empty string.. |
| 20:35:44 | sam686 | zero-length line draws a dot on linux? (I think its using software rendering) |
| 20:36:32 | raptor | must be the vm? i don't have that problem in linux |
| 20:37:13 | sam686 | maybe because you using hardware rendering which is a bit different from software rendering, mostly on line rendering with line smoothing on. |
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| 20:51:33 | sam686 | My main non-vm linux have the same green dot problem, but only when starting bitfighter with: LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 ./bitfighter |
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| 21:44:11 | | BFLogBot Commit: c0bbd0c325a7 | Author: sam8641 | Message: Fixed green dot problem, from zero length title underline on some systems including linux software renderer |
| 21:44:12 | | BFLogBot Commit: 5fd2f8dbe2f3 | Author: sam8641 | Message: This may fix some problems with several settings getting reverted. |
| 21:45:59 | sam686 | My last commit may be for Watusimoto to look at.. |
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| 22:38:48 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 22:39:00 | Watusimoto | hi sam686 -- what is in this last commit? |
| 22:39:06 | raptor | hello |
| 22:39:09 | raptor | oh |
| 22:39:21 | raptor | your most recent changes committed some settings issues |
| 22:39:30 | raptor | specifically the leveldir was wrong or always empty |
| 22:39:48 | raptor | i think sam686 was trying to fix it |
| 22:39:52 | Watusimoto | ah, ok |
| 22:40:03 | Watusimoto | I was working through some related issues |
| 22:40:15 | Watusimoto | but his changes look fine, at least as an interim measure |
| 22:40:57 | Watusimoto | this setting stuff is really tedious |
| 22:41:16 | raptor | are you doing a full migration to the new framework? |
| 22:41:18 | Watusimoto | just what I need after a long night working on taxes |
| 22:41:22 | Watusimoto | no |
| 22:41:24 | Watusimoto | not yet |
| 22:41:34 | raptor | i haven't really updated to the recent code since i've been working in 019c land |
| 22:41:49 | Watusimoto | just trying to get a few entire sections converted; there are some complications I want to figure out before pressing on too far |
| 22:42:21 | Watusimoto | things like sound levels, where we store a number 0-10 in the ini, but use 0-1 in the code |
| 22:42:31 | Watusimoto | I'm trying to avoid too many special cases |
| 22:42:40 | Watusimoto | so looking for a generic way to handle this |
| 22:42:56 | Watusimoto | well, I have one, but I'm still testing it |
| 22:43:55 | raptor | maybe have a static modifier of 0.1 in the soundsystem that is just multiplied |
| 22:44:07 | Watusimoto | that's a possibility |
| 22:44:22 | Watusimoto | I don't like it, but it's not horrible |
| 22:44:39 | raptor | ideally we'd have parallel values in code and INI |
| 22:44:48 | raptor | but sound is really 0 - 1 on the gain, i think |
| 22:44:50 | Watusimoto | yeah, that's another possibility |
| 22:45:02 | raptor | so we'd have to do 0 - 1 in the INI |
| 22:45:21 | Watusimoto | that's a third possibility |
| 22:46:08 | Watusimoto | it partly depends on if this is the only case (in which these solutions are probably the best), or whether there are many similar cases |
| 22:46:13 | Watusimoto | I haven't done that analysis yet |
| 22:46:37 | Watusimoto | we do have a lot of items that need special handling, thoguh |
| 22:47:59 | Watusimoto | well,some anyway |
| 22:48:17 | raptor | maybe everythign should just go to integers |
| 22:48:27 | raptor | display mode 0 1 2 |
| 22:48:31 | raptor | etc |
| 22:48:37 | raptor | and make people read the INI |
| 22:48:52 | raptor | that's probably extreme.. |
| 22:50:19 | Watusimoto | ok, my volumne handling seems to work |
| 22:50:56 | Watusimoto | I added the ability to have special read and write handlers |
| 22:51:08 | Watusimoto | so for volume, these * and / 10 |
| 22:51:10 | raptor | oh boy - a message bus! |
| 22:51:27 | Watusimoto | but... if these are the only settings that end up using that, I'll probably scrap it |
| 22:51:38 | Watusimoto | and use one of the solutions you suggested |
| 22:52:00 | raptor | i'm trying to think of another thing that uses it.. |
| 22:52:12 | Watusimoto | we have some weird things |
| 22:52:35 | Watusimoto | like HelpItemsAlreadySeenList |
| 22:52:42 | Watusimoto | no idea how that is going to work |
| 22:52:56 | Watusimoto | or MasterServerAddressList |
| 22:53:03 | Watusimoto | which essentially packs a list into an item |
| 22:53:30 | Watusimoto | trying to find the right balance between elegant and practical |
| 23:05:37 | raptor | practical! |
| 23:05:40 | raptor | but maintainable |
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| 23:10:07 | Watusimoto | agreed |
| 23:12:10 | raptor | ok, heading home |
| 23:12:12 | raptor | later! |
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