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| 11:05:12 | raptor | good morning! |
| 11:09:23 | destroyerimo | morning! |
| 11:09:30 | destroyerimo | how are you guys doing |
| 11:09:47 | raptor | hi |
| 11:09:48 | raptor | good |
| 11:09:56 | raptor | slightly broken, but good |
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| 13:26:50 | raptor | i set up a daily mysql/apache service restart on bitfighter.org |
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| 15:22:55 | raptor | did that forums search bar always look so off-page as it does now? |
| 15:29:55 | fordcars | Not before the server hack |
| 15:35:45 | fordcars | Heh, that looks better than I was going for: http://imgbox.com/AtGbQW4W |
| 15:35:52 | fordcars | I deserve no credit though |
| 15:38:27 | raptor | what... what happened to the connection notice? |
| 16:04:29 | fordcars | It oddly looks like the energy gauge, doesn't it? |
| 16:05:02 | raptor | yes... |
| 16:05:05 | raptor | did you hack that on? |
| 16:05:21 | fordcars | Haha yeah |
| 16:05:27 | fordcars | Oh man the editor |
| 16:05:38 | raptor | don't look at editor code! |
| 16:05:43 | raptor | you can never take that sight back! |
| 16:05:46 | fordcars | Hahaha |
| 16:12:30 | fordcars | The editor looks better now: http://i.imgbox.com/0bPBb7hw.png |
| 16:12:53 | fordcars | It helps hide the fact that the walls are invisible |
| 16:13:12 | raptor | hahaha |
| 16:13:39 | raptor | yeah well.. i hear watusimoto is working on fixing the wall problem.. |
| 16:14:25 | fordcars | Cool :) |
| 16:14:50 | fordcars | I heard there was quit a lot of fuss with the editor lately |
| 16:16:14 | raptor | i'm just happy it's compiling |
| 16:17:29 | fordcars | Haha |
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| 17:05:30 | Watusimoto | hey all |
| 17:05:53 | raptor | hello |
| 17:06:23 | Watusimoto | just got back from a ping pong exhibition game |
| 17:06:45 | Watusimoto | the european champ and his brother agains the two luxembourgish best players |
| 17:07:05 | raptor | interesting... |
| 17:07:08 | Watusimoto | lots of silly but pretty amazing shots |
| 17:09:13 | raptor | i like ping pong, but never could take it seriously enough to compete |
| 17:14:49 | Watusimoto | me neither; my son plays competitively though |
| 17:14:58 | Watusimoto | the younger one |
| 17:23:07 | raptor | this is how they stock fish in lakes around here: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30656097&nid=1017&title=have-you-seen-this-aerial-fish-stocking&s_cid=queue-6 |
| 17:38:50 | Watusimoto | flying fish! |
| 17:42:01 | Watusimoto | delightful... the memory error I spent two days trying to track down was fixed by a rebuild |
| 17:42:20 | raptor | i'm so sorry... |
| 17:42:56 | Watusimoto | yeah, well... |
| 17:43:07 | Watusimoto | that's the story of my life with bitfighter |
| 17:43:07 | | BFLogBot Commit: 3417b1ef9b | Author: watusimoto |
| 17:43:08 | | BFLogBot Commit: 23d80c76b7 | Author: watusimoto |
| 17:43:10 | | BFLogBot Commit: 3eccd9d1f0 | Author: watusimoto |
| 17:43:15 | Watusimoto | logbot is back! |
| 17:43:32 | Watusimoto | on the plus side, it means things are working better than I thought! |
| 17:43:52 | Watusimoto | also, just so you know, next wed i will be disappearing for about 9 days |
| 17:44:10 | Watusimoto | that's why I'm pressing to get the game as stable as possible post-refactor before I go |
| 17:51:36 | raptor | ok |
| 17:52:06 | raptor | i've been pretty busy at work and with bf.org fixes... |
| 17:52:21 | raptor | so i haven't touched much code... other than making sure it compiles :) |
| 17:53:34 | raptor | i'm about 1/3 done writing a plieades levels import python script |
| 17:54:08 | BFLogBot | no fortune here! |
| 17:54:19 | BFLogBot | no fortune here! |
| 17:54:26 | raptor | BFLogBot: welcome back |
| 17:54:26 | BFLogBot | no fortune here! |
| 17:54:32 | raptor | haha |
| 17:54:37 | raptor | forgot to fix that, too... |
| 17:56:02 | Watusimoto | I just want everything to return to stability -- game code, bf.org, etc. |
| 17:56:44 | raptor | fordcars says his changes will make people not notice teh walls are missing: http://i.imgbox.com/0bPBb7hw.png |
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| 18:42:42 | raptor | power cut out at work... and my computer just happened to not be plugged into the UPS |
| 18:46:09 | Watusimoto | oh, hooray |
| 18:46:33 | Watusimoto | fordcars: that screenshot is... horrific |
| 18:48:51 | raptor | on to python! |
| 18:58:59 | raptor | but alas... my heart just isn't in it at the moment |
| 18:59:15 | Watusimoto | careful about your types! |
| 18:59:32 | Watusimoto | I was working with a colleague, and we were looking at a function |
| 18:59:36 | Watusimoto | (in python) |
| 18:59:43 | raptor | softly-typed makes for an interesting day! |
| 18:59:47 | Watusimoto | he asked me what type a variable was |
| 19:00:00 | Watusimoto | I replied "It could be anything! Even your mother!" |
| 19:00:07 | Watusimoto | which is kind of true |
| 19:00:15 | Watusimoto | if his mother were a variable type in python |
| 19:00:39 | raptor | just like lua, it is easy to figure out: type(someVar) |
| 19:00:50 | Watusimoto | but it's really hard to tell what's going on in python by reading the code |
| 19:01:22 | Watusimoto | sure, it's easy to figure out if you break the code and look at the runnign state |
| 19:01:25 | raptor | i find it is easier than most scripting languages, for normal scripting usage |
| 19:01:34 | Watusimoto | but the next time your fnction is called? could be something new entirely! |
| 19:01:46 | Watusimoto | python is better than JS, for example |
| 19:01:48 | raptor | it's when you get into the really complex OO stuff that people have been doing with it where it starts getting difficult |
| 19:02:03 | Watusimoto | python should be used for nothing complex |
| 19:02:20 | raptor | but i also find it is easy to maintain when compared to bash or perl, and quick to diagnose |
| 19:02:30 | raptor | ok, maybe not bash - |
| 19:02:39 | Watusimoto | I agree |
| 19:02:49 | Watusimoto | though perl isn't that bad, when well written |
| 19:02:49 | raptor | but moreso than other scripting languages with full-features standard libs |
| 19:03:07 | raptor | your qualifying statement excludes most perl code i've ever seen |
| 19:03:10 | raptor | :) |
| 19:03:23 | Watusimoto | yes, well the language provides too much latitude to do stupid things |
| 19:03:30 | Watusimoto | that's it's great fault |
| 19:03:49 | Watusimoto | but for a one-off script, it can't be beat |
| 19:03:57 | raptor | seems like we have this same conversation about twice a year... |
| 19:04:04 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 19:04:14 | Watusimoto | ok, just reference conversation #12 |
| 19:04:27 | raptor | haha |
| 19:04:47 | raptor | just a moment, i have to dig something out of the window well that my kids just dropped... |
| 19:12:01 | raptor | i find that part of why i've been liking python is that I don't miss brackets or semi-colons (brackets aren't that bad..) |
| 19:34:53 | raptor | huh - i get a segfault when starting up bitfighter... |
| 19:35:45 | raptor | Watusimoto: does this look like code you've played with recently?: http://pastie.org/pastes/9376241/text |
| 19:37:57 | raptor | back to python! |
| 19:51:59 | Watusimoto | no...? |
| 19:53:28 | raptor | ok... maybe it'll go away with your next check in... |
| 20:12:49 | Watusimoto | ok, good night! |
| 20:12:53 | raptor | night |
| 20:12:57 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4009913fab | Author: watusimoto |
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