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| 10:59:36 | raptor | good mroning! |
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| 13:29:34 | Watusimoto | hi raptor |
| 13:29:44 | raptor | HELLO1 |
| 13:29:46 | raptor | oops |
| 13:29:48 | raptor | Hello! |
| 13:29:51 | Watusimoto | do you have the url of the page where we were listing broken things on the site? |
| 13:30:04 | Watusimoto | our stuff all got picked up today, so the house is a bit empty |
| 13:30:05 | raptor | why yes i do: https://beta.etherpad.org/bflostcode |
| 13:30:13 | raptor | but... it has been erased |
| 13:30:31 | Watusimoto | I had a tab opened for that page, but my son shut down the broswer, and it was gone |
| 13:30:35 | Watusimoto | hmmm |
| 13:30:36 | raptor | i know the wiki was on it |
| 13:30:43 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 13:30:51 | raptor | I finished off most of the items |
| 13:31:00 | Watusimoto | well, I feel that we should get the "we've been hacked" sign down soon... it's been a while |
| 13:31:10 | raptor | i think we need to do at least these: |
| 13:31:12 | Watusimoto | so I thought I might start working on the site itself |
| 13:31:16 | raptor | 1. wiki integration |
| 13:31:36 | raptor | 2. MOTD notice integration on forums (other pages?) |
| 13:31:47 | raptor | 3. MOTD integration with twitter |
| 13:31:58 | Watusimoto | wiki -- looks like we have content, but not styles; is that what you meant by integration? |
| 13:32:03 | raptor | yes |
| 13:32:30 | Watusimoto | ok, I can probably work on that; I did it once... |
| 13:32:32 | raptor | 4. Downloads page need to have the fancy Linux distro icons/etc. on it again |
| 13:32:44 | Watusimoto | btw, I found a full site backup from 2009... probably not of any use |
| 13:32:49 | raptor | that's all i can think of right now |
| 13:33:04 | raptor | we already have a full back up from 2011, i think under /root |
| 13:33:09 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 13:33:24 | Watusimoto | well, I know it was useless, but I thought I'd mention it |
| 13:33:32 | raptor | pleiades is as good as can be restored |
| 13:33:57 | Watusimoto | well, it looks good :-) |
| 13:34:37 | Watusimoto | so my two high priority projects are: get wall working in game; get wiki styles working |
| 13:35:02 | Watusimoto | that first one is the last major refactor issue I am aware of |
| 13:35:11 | Watusimoto | though I am sure there are more |
| 13:35:23 | raptor | ok |
| 13:36:02 | raptor | after my week (or so) off, i've forgotten much of what i was doing. I remember 3 projects though: |
| 13:36:15 | raptor | 1. bot rewrite |
| 13:36:24 | raptor | 2. import old forums levels into pleiades |
| 13:36:41 | raptor | 3. INI settings consolidation and simplification |
| 13:36:59 | Watusimoto | I saw your ini fiasco comment last night |
| 13:37:02 | raptor | #3 has been impeding my ability to fix bugs... |
| 13:37:03 | raptor | yeah |
| 13:37:20 | Watusimoto | the issue there is that we have the old and new ways of doing ini stuff? |
| 13:37:25 | raptor | yes |
| 13:37:35 | raptor | more like old and new and new new and new new new ways |
| 13:37:35 | Watusimoto | and you want it all to be just the new way |
| 13:37:51 | Watusimoto | yeah, there may be an older one in there too :-) |
| 13:37:55 | raptor | i want one way |
| 13:38:02 | Watusimoto | absolutely |
| 13:38:05 | raptor | whatever we choose is best |
| 13:38:15 | raptor | and i want to understand it and do it and do it fully |
| 13:38:29 | Watusimoto | I prefer the new way, as it uses a lot less boilerplate |
| 13:38:38 | raptor | yes, i think so too |
| 13:38:40 | Watusimoto | and the keys can be enums |
| 13:39:22 | Watusimoto | it really is mostly a cut-and-paste job... a bit tedious, not requiring much thought |
| 13:40:33 | Watusimoto | do you know what needs to be done? or is it that you want someone else to do it? |
| 13:40:40 | Watusimoto | (no judgement there, just asking) |
| 13:41:33 | raptor | I'm totally willing to do it - i'm usually good at being thorough with these kinds of tasks |
| 13:41:48 | raptor | I just don't completely understand how it's supposed to be hooked up |
| 13:41:48 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 13:41:53 | Watusimoto | here's what we can do |
| 13:42:21 | Watusimoto | I also want it done, but I haven't been motivated to do it. I can probably re-figure out what to do, as I sort of remember |
| 13:42:39 | Watusimoto | what I can do is transform a single setting, and check that in as a solo commit |
| 13:42:52 | raptor | it's been a week since I looked in-depth and i don't remember the specific issues i had |
| 13:42:56 | raptor | ok, yes |
| 13:43:00 | raptor | that would be great |
| 13:43:03 | Watusimoto | and then you can see from that what I did, and maybe that will clarify things |
| 13:43:07 | raptor | then I can see your vision :) |
| 13:43:24 | Watusimoto | If you can't, then there's a problem... |
| 13:43:41 | Watusimoto | ok, that will be my third high priority task |
| 13:44:07 | Watusimoto | that might also be a good opportunity for you to provide any feedback on the new system in general if there is something that concerns you |
| 13:44:20 | Watusimoto | it would be easier to fine-tune now than later, I think |
| 13:44:47 | raptor | yes |
| 13:48:35 | Watusimoto | we have a small apartment, and just shipped out 37 boxes of stuff, and it still feels full |
| 13:49:50 | Watusimoto | it's hard to fight the biological urge to accumulate stuff, but I am conviced that less stuff is better |
| 13:50:14 | Watusimoto | (to a point, obviously) |
| 13:51:14 | raptor | oh yes |
| 13:51:31 | raptor | there is an honest-to-goodness hoarder in my wife's family |
| 13:51:51 | raptor | so I am quite familiar with accumulation of 'stuff' |
| 13:52:33 | raptor | it's so bad, in fact, that storage fees for the extra stuff that this person has is equivalent to their mortgage |
| 13:52:52 | Watusimoto | that's a different level altogether, but does, I think, show the urge to accumulate in hyperdrive |
| 13:53:15 | Watusimoto | funny how people become hoarders, but rarely go the opposite way |
| 13:53:31 | raptor | i guess i missed a thought - stuff will fill the available space given to it |
| 13:53:39 | Watusimoto | my wife worked for a charity cleaning out the houses of hoarders |
| 13:53:50 | Watusimoto | yes, it will |
| 13:54:18 | Watusimoto | I want to build myself a very small, highly energy efficient house |
| 13:54:41 | raptor | i've wanted to go the other way... but usually my methods (just in my head!) involve gasoline |
| 13:54:52 | Watusimoto | yes, of course |
| 13:54:55 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 13:55:12 | Watusimoto | who doesn't want to build a big house and fill it with gasoline? |
| 13:55:35 | Watusimoto | when the apocolypse comes... you'll be the man. the gas man! |
| 13:55:50 | raptor | hahaha |
| 13:57:06 | Watusimoto | looks like dinner's here... sent the kids out for food |
| 13:57:08 | raptor | actually, i think there are even federal laws that prohibit the use or allow the forcible confiscation of stored gasoline |
| 13:57:23 | Watusimoto | if there aren't, there should be... that stuff is dangerous |
| 13:57:25 | Watusimoto | later |
| 13:57:28 | raptor | later! |
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| 19:04:24 | | BFLogBot Commit: c60055ee9e | Author: watusimoto | Message: Convert a single setting to new style |
| 19:04:26 | | BFLogBot Commit: f594c4a878 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Comment |
| 19:04:27 | | BFLogBot Commit: c0732069fc | Author: watusimoto | Message: Covert another setting -- for this one we need to (well, want to, really) change the way the setting is stored. It was 0 or 1, and we'll convert it to Yes or No. Ideally, we'd provide an upgrade path, but in this case, the setting is so trivial that it seems ok to simply lose the setting during upgrade for 50% of our users. |
| 19:04:29 | | BFLogBot Commit: 92f6d5a24f | Author: watusimoto | Message: Formatting |
| 19:04:30 | | BFLogBot Commit: ba4afa6b70 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Provide upgrade path for setting |
| 19:04:32 | | BFLogBot Commit: 1a884fb2cc | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix duplicate key |
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| 22:02:26 | YoshiSmb_m | hi guys! |
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| 22:04:14 | YoshiSmb_m | hi raptor |
| 22:04:41 | raptor | hello |
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