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| 14:34:37 | raptor | good day! |
| 15:46:13 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 15:46:55 | Watusimoto | man, my spam flow has gone up by 10x in the last couple of months |
| 15:47:48 | raptor | hi |
| 15:47:54 | raptor | yeah, mine has in the past month |
| 15:48:16 | Watusimoto | boo |
| 15:50:31 | Watusimoto | I just finished an interesting interview -- it sounds like fairly dull work, but with extreme flexibility, in terms of hours, hours per week, location, vacation, etc. |
| 15:50:45 | raptor | oh? |
| 15:50:46 | Watusimoto | I hate dull work, but I love flexibility |
| 15:50:50 | raptor | what type of work? |
| 15:51:08 | Watusimoto | customizing business apps for medical institutions |
| 15:51:15 | Watusimoto | kind of like SAP |
| 15:51:21 | raptor | blah |
| 15:51:34 | Watusimoto | did I mention dull? |
| 15:52:03 | Watusimoto | the pay is reasonable |
| 15:52:19 | raptor | any other options at the moment? |
| 15:52:27 | Watusimoto | I have another interview on Tuesday |
| 15:52:34 | Watusimoto | sent two resumes, got two interview requests |
| 15:52:39 | Watusimoto | so that's not bad |
| 15:53:09 | Watusimoto | this other job will be in much better alignment with my career trajectory (software architect for geospatial and environmental consulting company) |
| 15:53:27 | Watusimoto | probably more interesting work, less pay, much less flexibility, I'm guessing |
| 15:54:10 | Watusimoto | I'm doing a second interview with the first company after I get back to the US, so I have some time to look around a little more |
| 15:54:49 | raptor | already a second interview? |
| 15:55:20 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 15:55:41 | Watusimoto | I have only had one interview in my life that didn;t lead to a job offer |
| 15:56:35 | raptor | that's good! |
| 15:56:36 | Watusimoto | and since I got two jobs with no interview at all, I'm batting better than 1000 |
| 15:56:44 | raptor | haha |
| 15:57:30 | Watusimoto | I always feel akward in an interview, but I guess that doesn't show through |
| 15:57:39 | Watusimoto | no wait, I had a second interview that I didn;t get the job |
| 15:57:51 | raptor | do jobs as teenagers count? |
| 15:57:54 | Watusimoto | I called in from a phone box in Kiev. |
| 15:58:07 | Watusimoto | the box was unventilated, and it was about 95 degrees in there |
| 15:58:23 | Watusimoto | and there were three (I think) mosquitoes that seemed very hungry |
| 15:58:43 | Watusimoto | I wasn;t counting non-professional jobs |
| 15:58:57 | Watusimoto | that interview went badly |
| 16:00:04 | Watusimoto | they were asking how I'd computationally locate the deepest part of a streambed (a very complicated question considering what do you mean by 'deepest'), and all I could think of was those damn mosquitoes. |
| 16:00:45 | raptor | eek |
| 16:01:02 | Watusimoto | I was in there for 45 minutes or so, and came out soaked in sweat |
| 16:01:18 | Watusimoto | probably cost me $20 |
| 16:01:30 | raptor | no lunch that day |
| 16:01:31 | Watusimoto | so, batting exactly 1000 :-) |
| 16:01:35 | raptor | ha |
| 16:02:14 | raptor | i'll be right back... switching offices |
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| 16:05:05 | Watusimoto | here is the job advert I answered for the interview today... you could totally do this job without leaving provo! http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sof/4605019677.html |
| 16:07:41 | raptor | "Java or C# or any OOPL (work is not done in either of these languages)" |
| 16:07:47 | raptor | i wonder what it's done in... |
| 16:08:34 | raptor | if it's php i'm not sure i'd want to do it... |
| 16:08:58 | Watusimoto | it's done in "huron click" language |
| 16:09:09 | raptor | also, I've never actually submitted a code sample with a resume before |
| 16:09:12 | Watusimoto | it's that sap like product's language |
| 16:09:23 | raptor | how does submission of code like that work? |
| 16:09:24 | Watusimoto | bitfighter! |
| 16:09:32 | Watusimoto | it's what I submitted |
| 16:09:44 | Watusimoto | I just sent a url to the repo |
| 16:09:46 | raptor | so a URL to the project page? |
| 16:09:50 | raptor | ha! |
| 16:09:51 | raptor | cool |
| 16:10:00 | Watusimoto | I am quite sure they didn't look at it |
| 16:10:15 | Watusimoto | they just wanted to know if I knew which end was up |
| 16:11:06 | raptor | we had an intern here once that brought with him a binder with his school labwork printed out |
| 16:11:33 | Watusimoto | chemistry or biology? :-) |
| 16:11:43 | raptor | pages and pages of code, double-spaced, including whitespace |
| 16:12:06 | raptor | i don't remember what it was |
| 16:12:26 | raptor | just that the long lines were wrapped... |
| 16:13:01 | Watusimoto | who would ever look at that? |
| 16:13:53 | raptor | yes, exactly - which makes me wonder about code requirements like that job posting above has |
| 16:14:17 | Watusimoto | they said they get a lot of applicants that have no idea how to program] |
| 16:14:18 | raptor | but if it's just a simple way to filter through lesser mortals, then I guess it makes sense |
| 16:14:30 | Watusimoto | they gave me a "test" with two laughably easy questions |
| 16:14:49 | Watusimoto | he said a lot of people failed it |
| 16:14:55 | raptor | oh man |
| 16:15:10 | Watusimoto | along the lines of the sorting problem you showed me earlier |
| 16:17:07 | Watusimoto | their portland office has one desk |
| 16:17:16 | raptor | wow |
| 16:17:23 | Watusimoto | which is empty 80% of the time |
| 16:17:39 | Watusimoto | and that's where most of the employees are |
| 16:17:47 | raptor | haha |
| 16:18:01 | Watusimoto | he offered to come to my house for the 2nd interview |
| 16:18:06 | raptor | what |
| 16:18:23 | Watusimoto | not in luxembourg, obviously! |
| 16:18:26 | raptor | this sounds more and more like one-man company |
| 16:18:35 | Watusimoto | 12 or 13, I think |
| 16:19:02 | Watusimoto | or maybe 16 |
| 16:19:36 | Watusimoto | all are pretty hardcore devs, except for two ex-student types |
| 16:19:43 | Watusimoto | who are probably good devs themselves |
| 16:20:54 | raptor | maybe you can evangelize bitfighter amongst them if you get that job :) |
| 16:21:39 | Watusimoto | yeah, maybe. he told me he is thinking about taking some company resources and trying something new, perhaps a game |
| 16:21:51 | Watusimoto | I told him I thought that would not end well |
| 16:21:58 | raptor | yeah, i agree |
| 16:22:25 | Watusimoto | making an indie game that is profitable is really hard... doing it with no experience at all is... a tad harder |
| 16:23:38 | Watusimoto | he asked me a couple of times what I'm looking for in a job, and I think that is a really important question for me right now |
| 16:24:16 | raptor | i could never answer that question very well.. |
| 16:24:20 | Watusimoto | I can come up with all sorts of attributes I want, but I can't really answer the question directly |
| 16:24:40 | Watusimoto | forget the interview context, I am not sure I can even answer that to myself |
| 16:26:40 | Watusimoto | a 30 hour work week sounds appealing |
| 16:26:46 | raptor | it's almost one of those life-meaning questions |
| 16:27:04 | raptor | ha! yeah it does |
| 16:27:14 | Watusimoto | could totally do that with this job |
| 16:27:36 | raptor | i wonder if we're post-scarcity enough in the US to switch everyone to a 30-hour work week... |
| 16:28:20 | Watusimoto | not post-scarcity, but post-manufacturing |
| 16:28:46 | raptor | yes, that makes more sense |
| 16:28:57 | Watusimoto | however... not in the tech sector. there we still have a shortage of workers |
| 16:29:50 | Watusimoto | actually, at this job, I could probably sustain myself at 20 hours a week |
| 16:30:20 | Watusimoto | that might help contain the pain :-) |
| 16:31:28 | raptor | but would you get the benefits? |
| 16:32:53 | Watusimoto | I'm not sure. I think so. But of course, there would be some limit at which the arrangement stopped working |
| 16:33:13 | Watusimoto | what might work better would be 40 hours during the winter, 20 in summer |
| 16:33:36 | Watusimoto | or the opposite, if you were a skiier |
| 16:33:44 | raptor | that's practically what it's like here anyways... |
| 16:33:51 | raptor | most people are gone 1/2 the time |
| 16:34:06 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 16:34:13 | Watusimoto | here too, in August! |
| 16:34:18 | Watusimoto | Europe goes on holiday! |
| 16:34:22 | raptor | oh? |
| 16:34:31 | Watusimoto | it's the typical time |
| 16:34:43 | Watusimoto | many people take a week or two |
| 16:34:46 | Watusimoto | sometimes more |
| 16:34:56 | raptor | in Utah it's July because of the 4th and 24th holidays |
| 16:35:32 | Watusimoto | this sounds like a cool job for me: |
| 16:35:33 | Watusimoto | http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/etc/4609717575.html |
| 16:35:45 | raptor | oh boy |
| 16:36:11 | raptor | my wife thinks that that is a horrible, horrible idea for anyone to do |
| 16:37:52 | raptor | but that's a highly charged discussion topic... |
| 16:39:04 | Watusimoto | it might be a horrible idea for me to do... |
| 16:39:22 | raptor | badrabbit is an interesting name for a company... |
| 16:42:08 | Watusimoto | there's a story there |
| 16:42:18 | Watusimoto | http://www.badrabbitconsulting.com/team |
| 16:42:22 | Watusimoto | see the last section |
| 16:43:32 | raptor | haha |
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| 20:15:41 | raptor | oh rats, i missed watusimoto |
| 20:15:56 | raptor | my computer had crashed |
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| 20:43:51 | raptor | synchronized the changes from bitfighter.org to that cheapy backup... |
| 22:40:35 | | BFLogBot Commit: e46f7b8fe0 | Author: sam8641 | Message: Level.mGameType is now RefPtr; Fixed NexusZone render in Editor |
| 22:41:53 | raptor | hi sam686 |
| 22:42:02 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:42:11 | raptor | that last commit had you commit some dll/lib files... was that intentional? |
| 22:43:03 | sam686 | that what happens when I build as 64 bit, I thought I have unchecked all dll/lib |
| 22:43:21 | raptor | those are 64bit libs? |
| 22:43:51 | sam686 | yes.... which won't build on 32 bit |
| 22:44:08 | sam686 | however I only pushed some but not all 64 bit libs |
| 22:44:29 | raptor | well it says they were 'modified' |
| 22:44:34 | sam686 | there kindof need to be a way to use a separate DIR for 64 bit so I don't accidenly push those again |
| 22:44:35 | raptor | so i think you replaced some |
| 22:44:40 | raptor | yes, i agree |
| 22:45:11 | raptor | maybe just make a win64 sub dir? |
| 22:45:27 | sam686 | sure |
| 22:47:13 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/upload/lib64.zip those is the 64 bit I have |
| 22:49:56 | sam686 | Do you or should I through those into lib/win64 and commit? (along with reverting lib/dll on non-64 bit) |
| 22:50:36 | sam686 | one obvious problem is telling cmake to use those 64 bit lib when using 64 bit presets |
| 22:52:58 | raptor | I'm not sure - do we really want to start doing a 64 bit build? |
| 22:53:32 | raptor | I think I asked watusimoto about a year ago for that and he said we didn't need to yet |
| 23:03:13 | | BFLogBot Commit: 856fcaeda8 | Author: sam8641 | Message: Undo accidental push of 64 bit lib |