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| 00:26:25 | raptor | Raven67854: Hi |
| 00:26:30 | raptor | are you a bot? |
| 00:33:24 | Raven67854 | raptor, not last I checked |
| 01:13:50 | raptor | oh good! |
| 01:13:52 | raptor | and welcome |
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| 01:49:40 | fordcars | Night! |
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| 11:07:47 | raptor | good morning! |
| 11:12:11 | Nothing_Much | mornin' |
| 11:19:51 | Raven67854 | Morning |
| 11:28:18 | raptor | hi again Raven67854 - how did you find out about bitfighter? |
| 11:33:05 | Raven67854 | raptor, Nothing_Much |
| 11:33:12 | raptor | hi |
| 11:33:18 | Raven67854 | Hi |
| 11:36:53 | Raven67854 | raptor, Nothing_Much demanded I play bitfighter with him. Fun game |
| 11:37:13 | Raven67854 | Reminds me of another neon game I used to play a lot but can't seem to remember the name to |
| 11:37:21 | raptor | ha, ok |
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| 13:43:50 | fordcars | Raven67854: Was the other neon game you used to play called Zap? |
| 13:44:01 | Raven67854 | fordcars, I don't know |
| 13:44:09 | fordcars | Oh ok :P |
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| 13:45:27 | NeonPortal | Hey Nothing_Much fordcars zzattack sam686 and everyone else :)) |
| 13:45:37 | fordcars | Hi |
| 13:45:48 | NeonPortal | hows it goin on a day like this |
| 13:46:05 | fordcars | Like the day like yesterday |
| 13:46:09 | fordcars | But today |
| 13:47:17 | NeonPortal | hmm |
| 13:47:24 | NeonPortal | so like same toilet different shit o: |
| 13:47:32 | fordcars | Totally :P |
| 13:47:52 | Nothing_Much | ew |
| 13:50:41 | Nothing_Much | I'm really diggin' Lutris |
| 13:51:25 | | Raven67854 sighs |
| 13:51:29 | Raven67854 | I'm so bored |
| 13:52:01 | fordcars | raptor: you can't bf:findAllObjects(array, ObjType.WallItem), bummer |
| 13:52:09 | fordcars | It returns an empty array |
| 13:52:33 | Nothing_Much | Raven67854: "Do something!" "Do something!" "Do something!" |
| 13:52:42 | Raven67854 | I know Nothing_Much :( |
| 13:52:56 | Nothing_Much | Spaceballs! |
| 13:52:58 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, might go play a game with Tadzik |
| 13:53:17 | Nothing_Much | wut kinda game? |
| 13:53:50 | raptor | fordcars: correct - you'll probably have to just spit out the level file data |
| 13:54:05 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, no idea |
| 13:54:08 | fordcars | Oh wow, I don't have access to that I think |
| 13:54:10 | Nothing_Much | oic Raven67854 |
| 13:54:18 | fordcars | It has to be in the screenshot folder |
| 13:54:26 | fordcars | Or I can use the server for that |
| 13:54:31 | raptor | hmmm |
| 13:54:37 | fordcars | That might work, it looks like a huge hack though :P |
| 13:55:00 | raptor | there's gotta be a way to get the walls... |
| 13:55:19 | Nothing_Much | raptor: Is there a more recent version of a map made by kaen? |
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| 13:56:44 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: check out the forums |
| 13:56:52 | fordcars | O think he put it there |
| 13:57:07 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: hang on a sec |
| 13:57:59 | raptor | kaen made several maps, you can look for them on the level database |
| 13:58:35 | Nothing_Much | raptor: oh nice |
| 14:00:09 | Nothing_Much | Hey NeonPortal, this is IRC btw :P |
| 14:05:42 | Nothing_Much | Got a new map from Quartz, Pixel Stream! |
| 14:12:53 | Nothing_Much | 3 players! |
| 14:12:56 | Nothing_Much | make it more! |
| 14:22:30 | fordcars | !cgi |
| 14:22:37 | fordcars | !gci |
| 14:22:37 | BFLogBot | GCI Students Welcome! Please see: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/GCI_Student_Bootstrap for getting started. |
| 14:23:04 | fordcars | Whoa sweet |
| 14:26:06 | raptor | back later! |
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| 15:08:57 | | -mist- [Global Notice] Reminder - This weekend freenode staff identified some compromised binaries present on a number of servers in the network. These servers have been taken offline. Since password-sniffing may have taken place, we advise all users to change their passwords. /msg nickserv set password newpasshere. More information will follow later in the week. http://blog.freenode.net/2014/09/server-issues-2/ |
| 15:12:57 | Nothing_Much | oh noes |
| 15:13:00 | | -mist- [Global Notice] Please note - this is not a new issue, just another notice of the same issue from the weekend. If you already changed your password following the previous announcement you do not need to change it again. Sorry for any confusion. |
| 15:29:53 | NeonPortal | Nothing_Much: you missed some good games |
| 15:54:11 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: how many people? 4? |
| 15:54:57 | NeonPortal | yeah you abandoned me i talking to you via TC..at least I though i was |
| 15:55:44 | Nothing_Much | tc? |
| 15:55:50 | NeonPortal | team chat |
| 15:55:50 | Nothing_Much | oh no |
| 15:55:56 | Nothing_Much | didn't see that :( |
| 15:56:00 | NeonPortal | we were playing together, and than you were just gone i was like OH thats why my ass is getting kicked |
| 15:56:08 | fordcars | Sorry haha |
| 15:56:11 | Nothing_Much | hah, sorry 'bout that |
| 15:56:17 | Nothing_Much | stuff was goin' on |
| 15:58:04 | NeonPortal | no biggie there cheif (: |
| 15:58:21 | fordcars | Where's raptor when you need him |
| 15:58:55 | NeonPortal | hmm.. |
| 15:59:27 | fordcars | 24.202.250.215:3000 |
| 15:59:32 | fordcars | * http://24.202.250.215 |
| 15:59:41 | fordcars | *http://24.202.250.215:3000 |
| 15:59:49 | fordcars | You you can see loadout zones :D |
| 16:00:13 | Nothing_Much | oho my goodness man |
| 16:01:07 | fordcars | I need to find a way for the levelgen to find walls, and then we are in business |
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| 16:29:40 | fordcars | Anybody care for a game? |
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| 17:25:45 | NeonPortal | EYO |
| 17:26:13 | NeonPortal | Wakeup fellas I think i might get someone in here. >:) |
| 17:27:03 | NeonPortal | >:I nvm |
| 17:31:32 | fordcars | raptor, findAllObjects(array, ObjType.WallItem) doesn't work, but findAllObjects(array, ObjType.Barrier) does! |
| 17:56:17 | Nothing_Much | aw darn NeonPortal |
| 17:56:38 | Nothing_Much | oh, I'm wondering, what's that other game you used to play on Instantaction? |
| 17:58:34 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: ^ |
| 18:09:11 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: http://24.202.250.215:3000 |
| 18:09:26 | fordcars | I managed to get walls, and added bullets :) |
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| 18:24:32 | NeonPortal | Nothing_Much: I loved think tanks, marble blast was okay.. |
| 18:25:00 | Nothing_Much | oh my god fordcars, you're so smart |
| 18:25:04 | Nothing_Much | oh dude |
| 18:25:06 | NeonPortal | Nothing_Much: at the time the plane game was too much for my computers |
| 18:25:16 | Nothing_Much | make the bullets color coded |
| 18:25:28 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: I never played any instantaction games :( |
| 18:26:41 | fordcars | Haha |
| 18:26:58 | fordcars | Me neither |
| 18:28:17 | NeonPortal | dang Nothing_Much |
| 18:28:26 | NeonPortal | Check out the games they did have i found a trailer |
| 18:29:14 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: I saw the ZAP trailer |
| 18:29:27 | NeonPortal | www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJi5DR6RUw |
| 18:30:00 | NeonPortal | I like their version of zap better because instead of the whole ship moving instead the gun moves and the ship only moves the direction you point it with W A S D |
| 18:31:22 | NeonPortal | Nothing_Much: |
| 18:31:39 | fordcars | NeonPortal: try going in the Bitfighter settings and setting the control mode to Relative |
| 18:31:39 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: wut |
| 18:31:45 | Nothing_Much | yeah change it to relative |
| 18:31:49 | Nothing_Much | if that's what you're going for |
| 18:31:57 | Nothing_Much | cuz I think that solves your problem that you're describing |
| 18:32:05 | NeonPortal | fordcars: you'll have to help me with that. |
| 18:32:23 | NeonPortal | fordcars: Nothing_Much you guys will ahve to help me when im not eating, AFK |
| 18:32:24 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: just go to options |
| 18:32:26 | fordcars | Click on options, then Input, then Controle |
| 18:32:29 | fordcars | *Controls |
| 18:32:30 | Nothing_Much | ah okay |
| 18:32:42 | Nothing_Much | it's pretty neat |
| 18:32:47 | Nothing_Much | I think I should do that |
| 18:33:34 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: your walls are shrinking! |
| 18:33:41 | fordcars | Haha I know :P |
| 18:33:47 | Nothing_Much | no wait |
| 18:33:50 | Nothing_Much | it's just moving |
| 18:33:52 | fordcars | The bottom right corner? |
| 18:33:53 | Nothing_Much | refreshed the page |
| 18:33:55 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 18:34:01 | fordcars | Yeah :P |
| 18:34:46 | Nothing_Much | not sure what it is |
| 18:34:47 | Nothing_Much | brb |
| 18:36:01 | NeonPortal | Nothing_Much: how bout tht trailer? |
| 18:52:55 | Nothing_Much | it's unofficial lol |
| 18:53:04 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: ^\ |
| 18:54:53 | NeonPortal | lol but oyu didnt care for anyo f those games? |
| 19:06:24 | Nothing_Much | They looked awesome |
| 19:06:29 | Nothing_Much | But from what I know |
| 19:06:34 | Nothing_Much | There was no GNU/Linux support :( |
| 19:10:21 | NeonPortal | cant install flash? |
| 19:10:30 | Nothing_Much | Those were Flash games? |
| 19:12:05 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: ^ |
| 19:12:23 | NeonPortal | I think so, i dont remember, it was all platform based |
| 19:12:33 | Nothing_Much | agh, nah it's not the plugin |
| 19:12:36 | Nothing_Much | it's the executable |
| 19:12:46 | Nothing_Much | no linux games = no playing from me |
| 19:12:57 | Nothing_Much | thankfully Bitfighter is on GNU/Linu |
| 19:12:59 | Nothing_Much | x |
| 19:14:47 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: I think you should put a password on your server |
| 19:16:36 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: because a Chumpchange is just sitting in there idle o.o |
| 19:29:58 | fordcars | Hi |
| 19:30:06 | fordcars | Yeh, maybe I should :P |
| 19:30:44 | fordcars | InstantAction used a proprietairy plugin which was pretty much only an executable downloaded on the computer that played in the browser |
| 19:34:41 | Raven67854 | oh instantaction! |
| 19:34:45 | Raven67854 | I loved that |
| 19:35:05 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: Ah man, that would've sucked |
| 19:35:19 | fordcars | Yeah haha |
| 19:35:22 | Nothing_Much | for Linux |
| 19:35:34 | Nothing_Much | Unless they were still alive and decided to support Linux |
| 19:35:35 | Raven67854 | I liked rokkitball |
| 19:35:40 | NeonPortal | Yeah |
| 19:35:54 | NeonPortal | I couldnt ever get into it, my shitty porn infested sony couldnt handle it |
| 19:35:58 | NeonPortal | Thanks to my brother r.r |
| 19:36:28 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 19:36:39 | Raven67854 | Holy shit it was Zap! |
| 19:36:39 | Nothing_Much | gotta use dat antivirus dude |
| 19:36:40 | Raven67854 | that was the game |
| 19:36:48 | Raven67854 | maybe that's why bitfighter is so familiar to me |
| 19:36:48 | Raven67854 | haha |
| 19:36:54 | Nothing_Much | Raven67854: I was going to tell you about the history of this game |
| 19:36:57 | Nothing_Much | But you said you didn't care :P |
| 19:37:03 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, I don't honestly |
| 19:37:05 | Raven67854 | ahhh |
| 19:37:11 | Raven67854 | InstantAction <3 how I miss you |
| 19:37:16 | fordcars | Haha Raven67854 told you ;D |
| 19:37:22 | Nothing_Much | It used to be GarageGames |
| 19:37:22 | | Raven67854 high fives fordcars |
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| 19:37:32 | Nothing_Much | Then turned into what you're nostalgiaing over |
| 19:37:38 | Nothing_Much | Now it's back as GarageGames |
| 19:37:42 | | fordcars high fives back |
| 19:37:48 | Raven67854 | Nothing_Much, the hell are you talking about |
| 19:37:59 | fordcars | Haha |
| 19:38:12 | Nothing_Much | GarageGames turned into Instantaction, then back to GarageGames |
| 19:38:13 | NeonPortal | bitfighter is zap unmodified |
| 19:38:21 | fordcars | The InstantAction's Zap was based on GarageGame's Zap, which is what Bitfighter is based on |
| 19:38:22 | Nothing_Much | They made the Torque engine |
| 19:38:30 | Raven67854 | I know what GG is |
| 19:38:38 | Nothing_Much | Well, Zap! was GG and ZAP was Instantaction |
| 19:38:48 | fordcars | Yep |
| 19:38:57 | Raven67854 | Used to be a TGE user back in the day |
| 19:39:00 | Raven67854 | and later a TGEA |
| 19:39:11 | fordcars | Bitfighter changed a lot since Zap |
| 19:39:13 | Nothing_Much | I love the history of this game and its small community here :D |
| 19:39:31 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: I was told that the static background from ZAP was disorientating |
| 19:39:35 | Nothing_Much | Is that true? |
| 19:39:36 | fordcars | http://www.garagegames.com/products/download/39 |
| 19:39:42 | fordcars | Download it! |
| 19:39:48 | fordcars | The demo is still available |
| 19:40:13 | Nothing_Much | Holy crap |
| 19:40:13 | fordcars | Link expires: Never |
| 19:40:15 | Nothing_Much | I see |
| 19:40:20 | Raven67854 | GarageGames used to be cool stuffs |
| 19:40:23 | Nothing_Much | But the last time I checked it was password protected |
| 19:40:28 | Nothing_Much | Not anymore! |
| 19:40:33 | fordcars | Nope :P |
| 19:40:37 | fordcars | Raven67854: yep |
| 19:40:47 | Nothing_Much | Oh look at that |
| 19:40:47 | fordcars | Now it's only Torque 3d/2d |
| 19:40:53 | Raven67854 | I learned a lot then moved onto building my own engines |
| 19:40:55 | Raven67854 | and.... |
| 19:41:01 | Raven67854 | Hooray |
| 19:41:05 | Nothing_Much | It's looking for libstdc++.so.5 o.o |
| 19:41:17 | fordcars | Oh wow |
| 19:41:33 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: it's old, I don't know |
| 19:41:39 | fordcars | But try downloading that lib |
| 19:42:14 | Raven67854 | Wonder how the current version of Torque3D is doing for a Linux port |
| 19:42:15 | Nothing_Much | Yeah I'm lookin' for it |
| 19:43:11 | Nothing_Much | Whoa, it's in the Ubuntu repo! |
| 19:43:27 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: It' a pretty big one I think |
| 19:43:46 | fordcars | Bitfighter uses an old Torque |
| 19:43:54 | fordcars | Torque Network Library |
| 19:44:00 | fordcars | aka tnl |
| 19:44:01 | Nothing_Much | The TNL I think GG decided to drop |
| 19:44:04 | Raven67854 | Haha the TNL |
| 19:44:12 | Nothing_Much | Network Library! |
| 19:44:18 | fordcars | It's old shit |
| 19:44:23 | Raven67854 | To much nostalgia |
| 19:44:24 | Raven67854 | must stop |
| 19:44:25 | fordcars | Haha |
| 19:44:46 | Nothing_Much | What could BF use if TNL becomes *too* outdated? :( |
| 19:45:09 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: another one :) |
| 19:45:13 | fordcars | but it won't |
| 19:45:22 | Raven67854 | I can't imagine TNL becoming outdated |
| 19:45:28 | fordcars | It can't be outdated, the devs always update it |
| 19:45:32 | fordcars | Well often |
| 19:45:37 | Nothing_Much | Oh really? |
| 19:45:42 | Raven67854 | TNL does what its supposed to do |
| 19:45:44 | fordcars | They were working on making it support IPv6 |
| 19:45:47 | Raven67854 | also raknet is now open source |
| 19:45:55 | fordcars | Raven67854: it handles the network stuff |
| 19:46:02 | Raven67854 | fordcars, I know |
| 19:46:10 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: Will IPv6 still be implemented? |
| 19:46:17 | fordcars | I think that Bitfighter might use it's own library at some point |
| 19:46:25 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: I think so, it's on GoogleCode |
| 19:46:30 | Nothing_Much | Ah |
| 19:46:33 | Raven67854 | Its clear you should move everything to SDL2 |
| 19:46:45 | fordcars | It already is on SDL2 |
| 19:46:56 | fordcars | Only linux is SDL1.2, but it supports SDL2 |
| 19:47:15 | Raven67854 | Oh well no worries then |
| 19:47:19 | fordcars | Haha |
| 19:47:48 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: raptor gave me an amd64 version of BF that uses SDL2 |
| 19:48:05 | Nothing_Much | And the standalone Linux version uses SDL2 |
| 19:48:13 | Nothing_Much | It's only a matter of getting it on Debian and other distros |
| 19:48:20 | Nothing_Much | I think mostly Debian though |
| 19:48:25 | fordcars | Yep |
| 19:48:46 | NeonPortal | so guys |
| 19:48:52 | NeonPortal | I changed it to relatives but that didnt work |
| 19:49:00 | NeonPortal | my ship still just turned whichever way the mouse is |
| 19:49:13 | Nothing_Much | you mean you want the WASD keys? |
| 19:49:14 | fordcars | We thought that is what you wanted |
| 19:49:33 | NeonPortal | OH no no no, I mean on Instant action |
| 19:49:38 | NeonPortal | Instead of the ship following the mouse |
| 19:49:51 | Nothing_Much | you move with WASD? |
| 19:49:54 | NeonPortal | what they had is a gun on top, and the gun would ofllow the mouse, however the ship only faced which way you pointed it according to W A S D |
| 19:49:55 | Nothing_Much | that would be Absolute |
| 19:49:57 | Nothing_Much | which is the default |
| 19:50:24 | fordcars | Yeah |
| 19:50:26 | Nothing_Much | I have no idea what that is.. |
| 19:50:36 | fordcars | Hha |
| 19:50:46 | NeonPortal | Personally I think it'd make the game better |
| 19:51:02 | Nothing_Much | omg |
| 19:51:09 | NeonPortal | ...what/ |
| 19:51:14 | Nothing_Much | I just launched Zap! |
| 19:51:16 | Nothing_Much | No sound lol |
| 19:51:18 | Nothing_Much | D: |
| 19:51:29 | fordcars | :O |
| 19:51:31 | NeonPortal | Zap has no operating servers |
| 19:51:32 | fordcars | It works? |
| 19:51:38 | fordcars | ^^ |
| 19:51:39 | NeonPortal | Yeah i have it downloaded |
| 19:51:41 | fordcars | But you can play lan |
| 19:51:47 | Nothing_Much | Yeah I installed two libs |
| 19:51:47 | NeonPortal | You can, which is just bs |
| 19:52:00 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: cool :) |
| 19:52:04 | fordcars | NeonPortal: lol |
| 19:52:22 | fordcars | NeonPortal: you can play multiplayer with Hitcahi |
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| 19:52:27 | fordcars | *Hitachi |
| 19:52:41 | NeonPortal | hitcahi? |
| 19:52:46 | NeonPortal | hitachi??? |
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| 19:52:58 | fordcars | Wait |
| 19:53:08 | fordcars | Sorry Hamachi |
| 19:53:25 | Nothing_Much | Oh man |
| 19:53:36 | Nothing_Much | I can't get the level or ship to appear lol |
| 19:54:42 | fordcars | Wow |
| 19:55:35 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 19:55:40 | Nothing_Much | I found something not in Bitfighter |
| 19:55:44 | Nothing_Much | ship_sensor.wav |
| 19:56:04 | fordcars | It is, isn't it? |
| 19:56:08 | fordcars | Sensor Module |
| 19:56:55 | NeonPortal | who or what is that |
| 19:56:56 | Nothing_Much | Senso- Oh |
| 19:57:00 | Nothing_Much | Spybugs |
| 19:57:02 | Nothing_Much | Yeah that |
| 19:57:14 | Nothing_Much | There's a sfx that isn't in BF |
| 19:57:16 | fordcars | Yep |
| 19:57:20 | fordcars | Oh maybe |
| 19:57:31 | Nothing_Much | Check it out, extract it and go into the sfx folder |
| 19:58:43 | Nothing_Much | argh, I can't host a server |
| 19:58:55 | Nothing_Much | I wanna go back to the past 'n stuff :P |
| 19:59:46 | fordcars | HAha |
| 20:00:12 | Nothing_Much | eh nvm, the past sucks, Bitfighter's where it's at :D |
| 20:01:19 | Nothing_Much | now I can't stop looking up old Zap stuff |
| 20:01:20 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 20:01:22 | Nothing_Much | rokkitball |
| 20:01:25 | Nothing_Much | http://zapthegame.wikispaces.com/ |
| 20:02:44 | fordcars | Haha invaderalex |
| 20:03:23 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 20:03:41 | Nothing_Much | This is the perfect game for middle school kids to play and learn about to program stuff :D |
| 20:04:37 | Nothing_Much | I've shown my cousin this, he likes it but hasn't played it in a while because of Steam :\ |
| 20:10:30 | NeonPortal | whats teh dinging I keep hearing. |
| 20:11:20 | Nothing_Much | NeonPortal: I dunno lol |
| 20:11:32 | NeonPortal | goes diiiiiiiiiiiing |
| 20:11:51 | Nothing_Much | might be your ears being weird |
| 20:12:03 | NeonPortal | lol nooo not that weird |
| 20:12:07 | NeonPortal | its an actual ding |
| 20:12:12 | NeonPortal | like, download done diiiiiing |
| 20:12:18 | Nothing_Much | microwave or torrent? |
| 20:12:23 | NeonPortal | neither |
| 20:12:42 | Nothing_Much | idk then |
| 20:13:11 | fordcars | Stop downloading porn |
| 20:13:30 | Nothing_Much | yeah that |
| 20:13:42 | Nothing_Much | though we should probably keep this channel PG rated |
| 20:17:12 | NeonPortal | hold on i dont download porn xD |
| 20:17:26 | NeonPortal | That fried the familys sony, my brother did that |
| 20:18:26 | Nothing_Much | windows |
| 20:18:27 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 20:23:39 | NeonPortal | fft |
| 20:23:41 | NeonPortal | pathetic right ol |
| 20:24:51 | NeonPortal | fd |
| 20:25:02 | NeonPortal | how do you private msg |
| 20:30:25 | NeonPortal | is there advance levels? |
| 20:30:28 | NeonPortal | i mean weapons |
| 20:31:26 | sam686 | private message in-game: use /pm <name> message |
| 20:33:53 | Nothing_Much | g'night everyone |
| 20:34:48 | NeonPortal | out already??? |
| 20:35:20 | Nothing_Much | it's 8:34 here lol |
| 20:36:56 | fordcars | Wow |
| 20:36:59 | fordcars | Here too |
| 20:42:58 | NeonPortal | same |
| 20:43:01 | NeonPortal | lol 10 minutes later |
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| 21:50:46 | NeonPortal | ANYONE here? |
| 21:51:47 | NeonPortal | Nothing_Much: hellooo? |
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| 21:52:15 | NeonPortal | ,,,, |
| 22:02:40 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 22:03:57 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:04:31 | NeonPortal | hey |
| 22:04:42 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:04:49 | NeonPortal | hello |
| 22:04:52 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:05:23 | Watusimoto | hi sam686 -- I haven't been around much lately |
| 22:05:53 | Watusimoto | you may know that I'm back in the US -- lots of stuff I need to get done, taking all my time |
| 22:06:07 | Watusimoto | I hope things will settle down soon |
| 22:06:13 | sam686 | i haven't been doing much of bitfighter programming in a past 2 weeks |
| 22:07:34 | Watusimoto | I've been doing a little, but haven't checked anything in for a few days |
| 22:07:53 | Watusimoto | still working on that dang level refactor I started in... what? March or April? |
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| 22:37:50 | | BFLogBot Commit: 16fe03b3ef | Author: watusimoto | Message: ForceFieldProjector should not have to carry around info about which segment its ForceField lands on... delegate that to the ForceField itself. |
| 22:37:52 | | BFLogBot Commit: 677e414ea1 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Clarify logic |
| 22:37:53 | | BFLogBot Commit: e36569b81e | Author: watusimoto | Message: Comment |
| 22:37:55 | | BFLogBot Commit: 266b9a3045 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Removing the engineered object resnapping seems to have no effect on things... |
| 22:37:56 | | BFLogBot Commit: 8892c5606c | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix regression -- can no longer snap engineered items to interior wall segments |
| 22:37:58 | | BFLogBot Commit: 8e0c8797aa | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge |
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| 22:43:10 | fordcars | Watusimoto: I think you would like this :) http://24.202.250.215:3000/ |
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| 22:45:31 | Watusimoto | huh |
| 22:45:42 | Watusimoto | what am I looking at, exactly? |
| 22:45:47 | fordcars | It's a live feed from my server |
| 22:45:58 | fordcars | Using node.js and a levelgen |
| 22:46:04 | Watusimoto | so you are pumping object position into the browser? |
| 22:46:16 | fordcars | Yeah, through a text file |
| 22:46:24 | Watusimoto | interesting, indeed |
| 22:46:59 | Watusimoto | you should take a look at vert.x |
| 22:47:02 | Watusimoto | or vertx |
| 22:47:15 | Watusimoto | its similar to node, but supposedly much faster |
| 22:47:37 | Watusimoto | and maybe there is a way to pump events directly rather than going via a text file |
| 22:47:39 | fordcars | Oh sweet I'll check it out |
| 22:47:45 | fordcars | Maybe |
| 22:47:49 | Watusimoto | I saw a demo this week and was totally impressed |
| 22:48:07 | fordcars | It's written in Java? |
| 22:48:13 | Watusimoto | vertx? |
| 22:48:13 | fordcars | Or scripted in java |
| 22:48:17 | fordcars | Yeah |
| 22:48:19 | Watusimoto | not sure what it is written in |
| 22:48:20 | Watusimoto | but |
| 22:48:30 | Watusimoto | you can write apps in any language that runs on the jvm |
| 22:48:37 | fordcars | Ohh ok |
| 22:48:39 | fordcars | Write your application components in Java, JavaScript, CoffeeScript, Ruby, Python or Groovy |
| 22:48:49 | Watusimoto | java, javascript, python (sort of), and others |
| 22:48:54 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 22:49:02 | Watusimoto | python support is a bit weak at the moment |
| 22:49:08 | Watusimoto | only python 2.5 |
| 22:49:14 | fordcars | Oh I probably won't use python |
| 22:49:17 | Watusimoto | 2.7 should be coming soon |
| 22:49:44 | Watusimoto | the big question is whether you can have an external process pump items directly onto the event bus |
| 22:49:57 | Watusimoto | if so, you could skip the text file, and have almost real-time performance |
| 22:50:17 | fordcars | Yeah, but Bitfighter's api is limited in the stuff it can do with os |
| 22:52:59 | fordcars | Oh yes actually Watusimoto, sometimes the server fails to read the file since it it being written to at the same time (I am guessing) |
| 22:53:13 | Watusimoto | ok, I can see one way to do it with vertx |
| 22:53:37 | Watusimoto | so the basic concept is that you can pump events from the server to the client using websockets |
| 22:53:58 | Watusimoto | vertx handles all the hard stuff, you basically write a listener on the client that responds when new data arrives |
| 22:54:12 | Watusimoto | because it uses websockets, it's much faster than polling or whatever |
| 22:54:16 | Watusimoto | so |
| 22:54:21 | fordcars | Actually, that is pretty much what node is doing |
| 22:54:26 | fordcars | I am using websockets |
| 22:54:34 | Watusimoto | to get the data from bitfighter into vertx (perhaps node too) |
| 22:54:49 | Watusimoto | you could hack the server to write events to a socket |
| 22:54:56 | Watusimoto | that vertx is listening on |
| 22:55:00 | fordcars | Yeah, I could haha |
| 22:55:05 | Watusimoto | (there's examples of how to do this in the docs) |
| 22:55:21 | Watusimoto | so vertx gets a message via the socket, then echos it to the client |
| 22:55:25 | Watusimoto | client updates the screen |
| 22:55:51 | fordcars | Haha I know when you reload the page, the debugging alert show up here too |
| 22:55:56 | fordcars | Let me remove that |
| 22:56:05 | fordcars | Ok nevermind |
| 22:56:08 | fordcars | DOne already |
| 22:56:20 | Watusimoto | anyway, that is very cool |
| 22:57:06 | fordcars | Thanks, I am currently working on scaling on the client, but I'll defenitely check out vert.x |
| 22:57:07 | Watusimoto | the guy giving the demo said that the vertx dev said that vertx is significantly faster than node.js |
| 22:57:25 | Watusimoto | so a biased source, for sure, but perhaps true |
| 22:57:37 | sam686 | opening 10 tabs of that page is enough to use up so much bandwidth thats 1800 kbit/s on 10 tabs of that page |
| 22:57:42 | sam686 | also laggy |
| 22:58:00 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 22:58:08 | Watusimoto | opening 10 bitfighter clients might also get laggy |
| 22:58:41 | sam686 | umm, now that pages is skipping like crazy when I close all but 2 |
| 22:58:42 | Watusimoto | ok, I got to go, but I'm going to think about this web client thing a little more. It really is quite cool. |
| 22:59:32 | Nothing_Much | web client thing? |
| 22:59:35 | Watusimoto | back later! |
| 22:59:48 | sam686 | th4e web thing may be cool but it sort of needs a some kind of reducing bandwidth usage |
| 23:00:25 | sam686 | also the map is kindof too small to be playable |
| 23:00:35 | fordcars | Yeah sorry, it updates 100 times per second |
| 23:00:45 | fordcars | I am working on that right now sam ;) |
| 23:00:52 | fordcars | If you want, I can bring that number down |
| 23:01:02 | sam686 | looks more like 10 times per second to me... |
| 23:01:10 | fordcars | Oh weird |
| 23:01:20 | fordcars | Restarted the server now |
| 23:02:44 | fordcars | I put it at 100 times per second because it was super-smooth (on my side anyway) |
| 23:02:54 | fordcars | I put it back to 10 |
| 23:03:04 | sam686 | now it looks like 5 per second now |
| 23:03:42 | fordcars | Weird |
| 23:04:02 | fordcars | Do have it running more than once? |
| 23:04:10 | fordcars | In multiple tabs? |
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| 23:04:20 | Nothing_Much | fordcars: what's the link again?] |
| 23:04:23 | Nothing_Much | blargh I can't sleep |
| 23:04:25 | fordcars | http://24.202.250.215:3000/ |
| 23:04:27 | fordcars | :) |
| 23:04:30 | Nothing_Much | hopefully coffee tomorrow will help me out |
| 23:04:37 | sam686 | web browser can have tabs (chrome/firefox) or multiple windows |
| 23:04:38 | fordcars | Haha |
| 23:04:49 | NeonPortal | go to bed Nothing_Much |
| 23:05:18 | fordcars | I might break it soon btw, so don't be surprised if you reload and see nothing |
| 23:09:43 | sam686 | now I start to see it look somethink like this http://sam6.25u.com/upload/page1.png |
| 23:10:23 | fordcars | Haha possibly |
| 23:10:30 | fordcars | Weird scaling stuff, working on it |
