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| 00:00:45 | j_user | i know objective-c and stuff. My concern is if there is any PPC ASM involved. |
| 00:00:53 | j_user | i haven't really looked into the SDL source |
| 00:01:23 | raptor | I don't think so - it was mostly joystick changes if I recall that broke my compatibility patch |
| 00:02:12 | j_user | ah |
| 00:02:37 | j_user | well, the large issue is that SDL requires 10.7+ for 2.0.3 |
| 00:02:57 | j_user | with enough time i could probably port it to 10.5.x |
| 00:04:23 | raptor | yeah, our binaries are for 10.4... before some of the syntax changes in 10.5 |
| 00:05:41 | j_user | looking at source now for 2.0.3. lol they still have ifdefs for ppc or ppc64 , so maybe not all is lost |
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| 00:06:57 | raptor | I think other OSes may use the POWER architecture, like the playstation |
| 00:07:52 | fordcars | And XBox 360 |
| 00:07:56 | fordcars | And Wii U |
| 00:08:09 | fordcars | :) |
| 00:08:36 | j_user | yeah |
| 00:15:56 | j_user | @raptor: thanks again :) |
| 00:16:02 | raptor | sure t hing |
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| 00:26:46 | raptor | night! |
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| 00:28:42 | fordcars | Night! |
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| 11:23:45 | raptor | good morning! |
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| 13:06:42 | jeffmb | raptor: I actually decided to give a whirl and got SDL 2.0.0 to compile on my G5 system |
| 13:06:55 | jeffmb | after a buncha ifdef hax for snow leopard or > |
| 13:06:59 | raptor | hello! |
| 13:07:13 | raptor | I suspect you are j_user from yesterday? |
| 13:07:18 | jeffmb | yes sorry :P |
| 13:07:26 | raptor | ok cool |
| 13:07:48 | raptor | yeah, most of the work I did was for 10.4 compat, so I think 10.5 would be easier |
| 13:08:11 | jeffmb | well. teh thing is with PPC, I can compile on the G5, BUT i can set the deployment target to 10.1+ |
| 13:08:19 | jeffmb | while using SDK 10.5 |
| 13:08:33 | raptor | ahh ok |
| 13:08:55 | jeffmb | i mean it compiles, but i have no idea if it will actually even work :P |
| 13:08:59 | raptor | I've never used teh 10.5 SDK, just 10.4 and 10.6 |
| 13:09:03 | jeffmb | ah |
| 13:09:37 | raptor | the compiler in the 10.6 SDK wasn't very friendly with backwards compat |
| 13:09:46 | jeffmb | :( |
| 13:10:46 | raptor | hmm... i guess I didn't think about using the 10.5 SDK.. that would have allowed me to still compile for PPC and be compatible with later SDL code base |
| 13:11:27 | jeffmb | hehe. well, teh code specifically says you have to have SDK 10.6. so of course forcing 10.5 SDK caused about 30 errors |
| 13:11:45 | raptor | wait, did you use SDL 2.0.3 or 2.0.0? |
| 13:11:53 | jeffmb | 2.0.0 |
| 13:12:16 | jeffmb | they still haev some legacy code for if less than snow leopard in 2.0. |
| 13:12:57 | raptor | ah yes, that's right - they nuked 10.4 compat before 2.0.0, but my patch allows you to go to 2.0.1 |
| 13:13:22 | jeffmb | my only concern is that I had to remove in the objective-c window implementation, the NSWindowDelegate as that is 10.6+, idk how that's gonna work out once i test this |
| 13:14:06 | raptor | i think i'd use my patch instead of winging it - my patch was specificly a reversion of the 10.4/10.5 compat removal |
| 13:14:50 | jeffmb | #ifdef __ppc__ @interface Cocoa_WindowListener : NSResponder { |
| 13:16:42 | jeffmb | well, i actually had to look that one up, came across this: |
| 13:16:43 | jeffmb | http://forums.libsdl.org/viewtopic.php?p=19874&sid=68987ac54439198a92bd7db0122fa8f7 |
| 13:18:22 | raptor | yeah, that's in my patch |
| 13:18:39 | raptor | I don't want you to do any extra work than you have to :) |
| 13:19:10 | raptor | also, if I remember correctly, SDL 2.0.1 had fixed a few window-related bugs |
| 13:20:32 | jeffmb | I'm doing this for the hell of it hahaha |
| 13:20:54 | raptor | ha! in that case, i won't stop you :) |
| 13:21:51 | jeffmb | heh |
| 13:22:19 | jeffmb | + gets me to actually look what's inside of SDL the hardway ;p |
| 13:23:03 | jeffmb | on that note, gonna use 2.0.1 then and fix that ;p |
| 13:25:09 | raptor | since i'm basically the OSX maintainer for bitfighter, but I'm a Linux developer... I try to spend as little time as possible fixing OSX-related things |
| 13:29:00 | jeffmb | understandable |
| 13:29:36 | jeffmb | it doesn't help when apple makes things hard to do whenever they release a new version of an os |
| 13:30:12 | jeffmb | try compiling C++11 and linking with hte c++11 stdlib on 10.6. not gonna happen |
| 13:30:23 | jeffmb | 10.6 don't support c++11 library |
| 13:30:48 | jeffmb | found that out the hardway, so had to convert code back to c++98 |
| 13:31:23 | raptor | yes, that's the exact reason why we still run c++98 in bitfighter |
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| 16:23:07 | watusimoto | hello |
| 16:23:14 | raptor | hola |
| 16:23:40 | watusimoto | tonight is christmas party #2! |
| 16:23:51 | raptor | huh? |
| 16:24:02 | raptor | i didn't see an MOTD on it... |
| 16:46:00 | watusimoto | no, sorry, irl, not in bitfighter |
| 16:46:07 | watusimoto | tis the season and all that |
| 16:46:18 | raptor | ohhh... those parties... yeah, i skip those |
| 16:47:19 | watusimoto | we're having 2 in our office |
| 16:51:33 | raptor | ohh... a work party |
| 17:01:32 | raptor | i skipped that one, too - luckily I had school for a good excuse |
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| 17:16:16 | watusimoto | well, the first work party wasn't bad. the second one is later this week |
| 17:16:29 | watusimoto | It helps if you drink. |
| 17:17:50 | raptor | heh |
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| 23:25:45 | raptor | good evening! |
| 23:25:54 | raptor | tomorrow is my final.. then i'm FREE |