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| 13:14:57 | raptor | good day! |
| 13:15:15 | raptor | my computers have been resurrected after the distro-upgrade fiascos |
| 13:16:14 | raptor | in other news... i can't seem to get the debian build to work... |
| 13:16:30 | raptor | put i put up other distro pages on our downloads page |
| 13:27:43 | Nothing_Much | uh oh.. |
| 13:27:57 | Nothing_Much | mageia? |
| 13:28:03 | Nothing_Much | dang |
| 13:28:11 | Nothing_Much | maybe try Ubuntu 12.04, raptor? |
| 13:28:58 | raptor | it doesn't have to do with the distro - it's a build system problem. something that kaen added to make bitfighter more debian compatible is conflicting with my hacky build system |
| 13:29:16 | raptor | and i don't know enough about debian building to make it work (yet) |
| 13:29:53 | Nothing_Much | raptor: what about Debian? is it the packages themselves or something more internal like development stuff? |
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| 13:30:31 | raptor | it's an issue with the debian build system, not the distro... |
| 13:42:31 | Nothing_Much | oh.. |
| 13:42:38 | Nothing_Much | you mean like an older version of GCC? |
| 13:43:09 | Nothing_Much | hmm.. |
| 13:43:10 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 13:43:18 | Nothing_Much | wait, did Kaen update some things? |
| 13:43:20 | raptor | no no |
| 13:43:27 | Nothing_Much | if so, then you might need to try out Debian Jessie |
| 13:43:33 | Nothing_Much | which is currently "testing" |
| 13:44:05 | raptor | the build system is the manner in which debian-type packages are built - using technologies like quilt and debhelper |
| 13:44:10 | Nothing_Much | right now, atm, Debian Stable won't receive any new packages, ever, unless they're backported, but those are for purely security updates |
| 13:44:15 | raptor | it has nothing to do with the distro or with specific compiler |
| 13:44:44 | Nothing_Much | well.. I would suggest trying out Jessie and see if that one works |
| 13:45:02 | raptor | i've tried multiple versions |
| 13:45:04 | Nothing_Much | since.. you know, Stable is incredibly outdated, using Mesa version 8.0.4 when we're at version 10.5 now |
| 13:45:10 | Nothing_Much | even Testing? |
| 13:45:12 | Nothing_Much | darn |
| 13:45:14 | raptor | it's not a distro problem |
| 13:45:21 | raptor | not testing, no - that one is not available to me |
| 13:45:41 | raptor | remember that I build using the openSUSE build service which emulates a debian distro for building |
| 13:45:48 | Nothing_Much | hmm.. |
| 13:46:24 | Nothing_Much | well, try out Jessie, since Debian does update it more frequently and is more up to date, and it *could* resolve the technology-specific.. things |
| 13:46:26 | Nothing_Much | https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 13:46:56 | raptor | i'm not about to install an entire distro to build this - I do not know enough about building debian packages yet |
| 13:47:19 | raptor | which is why i've been using the openSUSE build service - it helps hide some of the nastiness of it all :) |
| 13:47:25 | Nothing_Much | ohh |
| 13:47:39 | Nothing_Much | does the openSUSE service have the "testing" packages available? |
| 13:47:49 | Nothing_Much | erm.. thing? sorry if I don't understand |
| 13:48:05 | raptor | i'm not sure, but I doubt it - it only builds for released distros |
| 13:49:32 | Nothing_Much | darn |
| 13:49:50 | Nothing_Much | well, lemme see what instructions I can find and I'll try it out on Debian Testing on VBox. |
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| 17:22:23 | watusimoto | building really shouldn't be this much of a chore |
| 17:23:02 | watusimoto | but it always is (and I'm not just talking about Bitfighter here... it's everything) |
| 17:30:26 | raptor | oh hello |
| 17:30:46 | watusimoto | hi |
| 17:31:31 | watusimoto | hey, did you submit bf 019d to betanews.com? |
| 17:31:48 | raptor | yeah, debian is the epitomy of draconian policies |
| 17:31:51 | watusimoto | because I didn't, but they picked it up pretty quickly |
| 17:31:52 | watusimoto | http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Bitfighter_for-Windows/1303879080/1 |
| 17:31:56 | raptor | no, i did not submit it anywhere |
| 17:32:13 | watusimoto | I was just curious if they are crawling our site, or if we should add them to the release checklist |
| 17:32:38 | raptor | oh wow... are we famous? |
| 17:32:55 | watusimoto | I'm not sure being on betanews counts as fame |
| 17:33:31 | raptor | you'll have to forgive me - i'm a bit out of sorts right now. our 3rd born kept us up until 5:30am |
| 17:33:42 | raptor | so i may not be entirely coherent |
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| 17:34:38 | watusimoto | we need to add gamejolt to the checklist |
| 17:34:58 | raptor | i think it was there.. before the crash |
| 17:35:08 | watusimoto | ah, could be |
| 17:35:17 | raptor | also - i need to write down how to make the Linux portable build |
| 17:35:27 | raptor | it is easier now, but still requires a bit of set-up |
| 17:35:50 | fordcars | Whoa, 015, that is old |
| 17:36:01 | watusimoto | I'll add it |
| 17:36:35 | raptor | i'm liking our download page... |
| 17:36:41 | raptor | it's all spiffy |
| 17:36:56 | watusimoto | Yes, it looks very nice |
| 17:37:34 | watusimoto | yes, very nice |
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| 17:55:33 | raptor | spiffy! |
| 17:55:40 | raptor | I don't know what to do about debian |
| 17:55:46 | raptor | maybe I should install a virtual machine |
| 17:56:08 | raptor | i'm not feeling up to the fight at the moment |
| 18:09:07 | watusimoto | so it just won't build? |
| 18:10:10 | raptor | I can get the build environment all set up, but then it fails with some weird error - i suspect it is because of debian-specific files kaen set up in our 'debian' sub-dir |
| 18:10:51 | watusimoto | Do we really need debian-specific files? |
| 18:11:03 | watusimoto | it seems dubious |
| 18:11:25 | watusimoto | I would suggest that, when you are ready, you try removing those and seeing if the standard build process will work |
| 18:11:29 | raptor | probably not - but I imagine kaen set them up to prove we're almost debian compatible |
| 18:13:14 | raptor | yes, that is my next idea - i'm going to gut the 'debian' directory except for the .png and .desktop file |
| 18:13:37 | watusimoto | The less non-standard stuff we have, the better |
| 18:13:49 | watusimoto | especialy if we don't know what it is :-) |
| 18:16:32 | raptor | ok, here goes with a modified source tarball... |
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| 18:31:10 | raptor | it started building! |
| 18:31:18 | raptor | let's see if it completes on the first try... |
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| 19:04:19 | raptor | failied! |
| 19:04:25 | raptor | failedd! |
| 19:04:28 | raptor | whatevewr |
| 19:06:15 | fordcars | Make sure typos aren't the cause of the failure |
| 19:08:00 | raptor | haha, in fact, one was |
| 19:08:42 | fordcars | Haha |
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| 19:28:21 | raptor | try #4... |
| 19:52:35 | raptor | try # 7 |
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| 20:08:34 | watusimoto | hey debian, please work!!! |
| 20:15:44 | raptor | it built! but i don' tknow if it works |
| 20:15:58 | raptor | Nothing_Much: would you like to be a beta tester for the debian 7 package?: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/bitfighter_019d_amd64.deb |
| 20:17:59 | watusimoto | it just needed the proper motivation |
| 20:21:56 | raptor | i couldn't use the 'make install' that cmake generated and had to manually place the game files |
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