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IRC Log for 2015-08-27

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10:52:47raptorgood day!
10:55:01kodahopefully
10:55:21raptorit only took over a year, but we are now GLES 1.0 compatible!
11:14:23kodagles1.1 i hope :p
11:14:30raptoryes!
11:14:34kodai thought we were compatible for a long time
11:15:33raptoryeah, well... we were... this I found out two days ago that on some small devices like the ODROID, the GLES 1 context wasn't being loaded by SDL2. This commit fixes that: https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/commit/4d465f664abe6c296a8a7de85bb1a753384656cb
11:15:41raptor*then I foudn out
11:15:59raptorso it always compiled just fine... it just never ran properly
11:18:12kodaBF_USE_GLES2 :|
11:18:18kodaalready gles2 compat
11:18:21raptornot there yet! but eventually...
11:18:27raptorwe have finished the abstraction layer
11:18:32raptorbut it sure doesn't compile
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11:35:43raptorkoda: did hedgewars move anywhere?
11:36:44kodaself hosting
11:36:46raptorI know i've asked that before... but Google Code has cut the cord now
11:36:50raptorah ha
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12:55:09watusimotohowdy
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12:58:53raptorhi
12:59:07raptorI made my first commit with git! and I see you did, too...
12:59:18watusimotofun!
12:59:36raptori have to get used to the fact that changes to files don't actually make it into a commit unless you explicitly add them...
13:00:10watusimotoah yes, from the cmd line. github's frontend adds by default.
13:00:30watusimotoI know you would never sully yourself with a frontend
13:00:43raptoroh good - i'll see how smartgithg works with it next time...
13:00:48raptorha!
13:01:05raptori thought i'd make sure to learn it a little on commandline
13:01:08watusimotoas long as we don't get into smashing (is that the word) pull requests, which is the most equisitely painful thing ever
13:01:23raptorwhat is that?
13:01:30watusimotothe work flow around what should be a trivial exercize is totaly f'ed up
13:01:43watusimotothat's when you make a pull request that contains several commits
13:02:03watusimotoand the repo owner is uptight and won't accept it because it will make his tree look messy (sorry)
13:02:14watusimotoand he makes you compress the thing into a single changeset
13:02:26raptorah, so then you have to change your own history
13:02:29watusimoto(even though he can see it as a single changeset on github)
13:02:38watusimotowell, sort of, but not exactly
13:02:53watusimotoI've done it a dozen times and I still don't really understand what's going on
13:02:56raptorhg let you 'collapse' changesets easily
13:03:05watusimotowell, git needs one of those
13:03:12raptorbut i suspect with git you'd have to get rid of the pull request and make a new one?
13:03:35watusimotoor, better, when you do a pull request github should automatically offer the recepient the choice to compress or not
13:03:46watusimotothen everyone is happy
13:03:59watusimotoiit's not like it would be hard to take the sum total of changesets and present them as one
13:04:09watusimotoin fact the website does exactly that
13:04:23raptorah, for the viewer
13:04:27watusimotoyes
13:04:43watusimotohg has its moments of high frustration
13:04:58watusimotobut git has its momemnts where things aren't frustrating
13:05:19raptorhaha
13:05:47raptoroh, i also found out that the opposite of 'git add' is 'git reset'
13:06:07raptorthat's if you want to remove a modified file from the commit
13:06:14raptorbefore committing
13:06:33raptorbecause committing is a two-step process now
13:09:11watusimotoyeah, it's intended for more "finely crafted" changesets
13:09:16watusimotoaka pain in the neck
13:09:22watusimotouse a front end!
13:09:53raptordid you try smartgithg, or are you going to stick with the github one?
13:10:18watusimotoI haven't tried smarggithg yet, but it's on my list
13:10:29watusimotothe github front end is adequate (barely) for the moment
13:20:24raptorperhaps you'll get to have some fun with merging on your next commit :)
13:20:37watusimotooh boy
13:22:48raptorwe're finally GLES 1 compatible now... if you didn't see, the issue is now closed
13:22:56raptoroh, that reminds me - i need to fix logbot
13:23:26raptoralso, have you found an RSS feed for the issues? That's how I usually like to follow them
13:24:00watusimotoI saw that, yes. I'm still not 100% clear on the long-term ramifications of that, despite your multiple patient explanations, but I know it's a step on the road to browser-android-nirvana So awesome!!
13:24:27watusimotoI have not; I don't use RSS so I haven't looked. Usuaully I just get spammed
13:36:03watusimotomeaning usually I get notified by email
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13:46:15raptordo you prefer the e-mail spam?
13:47:39raptorah ha! found one for the commits: https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/commits/master.atom
13:57:39watusimotooh good
13:57:46watusimotoI would have been shocked if there wasn't one
13:58:15watusimotogithub is pretty good about exposing alternate views of their info
13:58:32watusimotoThey'd be really great if they were hghub
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16:57:40raptorschool starts Monday!
17:22:41Nothing_Muchyikes!
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18:28:07raptorwatusimoto: did you say that you had some web-crawler alert set up for when the word 'bitfighter' appears somewhere out on the web? If so, what is that service?
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20:12:05fordcarsraptor: Would mines that would be colored with the team's color be a good idea?
20:12:12fordcarsThe red ring
20:12:45fordcarsOh actually it wouldn't change much would, since we barely see enemy mines
20:12:53fordcarsDisregard!
20:32:24raptorhi, not sure... mines are mines and supposed to be dangerous! but maybe watusimoto has a different idea
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