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IRC Log for 2015-09-12

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13:27:33raptorhey fordcars, you around?
13:27:43fordcarsYep!
13:28:03raptorif i may ask, what OS/web browser do you use?
13:28:36fordcarsWindows 64-bit Chrome 64-bit :)
13:28:51raptorcan you test something for me?
13:29:18fordcarsSure!
13:29:22raptortry this URL out (wait about 45-60 seconds): http://bitfighter.org/~raptor/emscripten/bitfighter.html
13:30:05fordcarsOuuhh
13:30:07fordcarsEmscripten
13:30:18raptorshhhh, it's top secret!
13:30:32raptorwork-in-progress...
13:30:45fordcarsraptor:
13:30:50fordcarsYOU ARE NOT FREAKING SERIOUS
13:30:51raptoryes
13:30:55raptor:)
13:30:58raptorgetting closer....
13:31:16raptori'm still fixing bugs in the network code - it doesn't connect to master yet
13:31:23raptoralso, i don't know how the editor saves files, yet
13:31:24fordcarsTHIS IS AMAZING
13:31:37raptorjust curious, are the TTF fonts all black for you?
13:32:09fordcarsYeah
13:32:15fordcarsI guess those are TTF :)
13:32:21raptorha, yeah
13:32:22fordcarsWow, did you try fullscreen?
13:32:26raptorno
13:32:31raptori suspect it's broke, though?
13:32:32fordcarsThe framerate for me jumped to 60
13:32:36fordcarsNo it works
13:32:38fordcarsThis is amazing
13:32:43raptoroh really?? with the mouse?
13:32:44fordcarsIt runs better than native for me
13:33:08raptorha! interesting - chrome must do something weird
13:33:17fordcarsBut you can't press escape so you can stay in fullscreen :)
13:33:29raptorah, yeah, that'll be an issue
13:33:41fordcarsIt's an easy javascript fix I think
13:33:44Nothing_Muchemscription?
13:33:47raptori've been working 3 weeks on this and finally got it show something last night
13:34:02fordcarsBut when I go in fullscreen mode, and press escape, my framerate changes from 30 to 60
13:34:07fordcarsAnd it runs amazingly
13:34:16raptori want to at least get the fonts working and the network working
13:34:18Nothing_MuchUH
13:34:19Nothing_MuchOHHHHH
13:34:21Nothing_MuchOH MY GOD
13:34:31raptorbut that may be a long way still
13:34:38fordcarsOohh raptor emscriptens fullescreen button works
13:34:41raptoralso fordcars, can you try /addbot?
13:34:41Nothing_MuchOHHHH GOD I LOVE ALL OF YOU
13:34:52raptorNothing_Much: sshhhh.. it's a secret!
13:34:59Nothing_MuchYes yes
13:35:04Nothing_MuchIt'll remain secret
13:35:04raptorit's not really working that well, but it's an alpha...
13:35:08raptorgetting close though
13:35:08Nothing_MuchRight
13:35:16Nothing_MuchDon't release alphas, but ..a.s;hdpouy
13:35:20fordcarsraptor: nothing happens :o
13:35:31raptorfordcars: no bot is added or the game dies?
13:35:40Nothing_MuchWhat is emscripten?
13:36:02fordcarsNope :x
13:36:04Nothing_MuchActually.. is that like an embedded client server?
13:36:14raptorNothing_Much: emscripten is a collection of compiling software/tools that let you turn c++ opengl code into javascript+webgl
13:36:30fordcarsemscripten is magic
13:36:42Nothing_Muchoh my god I wish I knew how to code
13:36:44raptorand it has matured significantly since trying it last year
13:36:53Nothing_Muchbut I am REALLY hoping this can be viable for the future
13:36:57fordcarsraptor: this is absolutely amazing
13:37:02fordcarsEven the editor
13:37:02Nothing_Muchit truly is!
13:37:04fordcarsIt's so fast
13:37:09Nothing_Muchhow fast?
13:37:14Nothing_Muchwhich web browser?
13:37:16fordcars60fps fast!
13:37:20fordcarsChrome
13:37:24fordcarsFor me :)
13:37:25raptori haven't tried the editor much - it works?
13:37:34fordcarsraptor: it works amazingly
13:37:43Nothing_MuchMine lags quite a bit, actually
13:37:46Nothing_MuchBut this is an amazing step
13:37:48raptori couldn't get th emouse to work well in my linux+firefox
13:37:51Nothing_MuchFor embedded play
13:37:57fordcarsNothing_Much: go in settings, and go in fullscreen mode
13:38:00fordcarsAnd press escape
13:38:17raptori wonder, can you save files in the editor?
13:38:19fordcarsThat's what I did, dunno why it worked for me :)
13:38:25fordcarsYes raptor
13:38:28fordcarsWhy
13:38:31Nothing_MuchThere's a fullscreen conflict with the Escape button :P
13:38:31raptorwhat
13:38:38raptorwhat does it do when you attempt to save?
13:38:39fordcarsWait Ill try
13:38:47fordcarsIt says "Level blahh saved"
13:39:01raptorhaha, but to where??
13:39:11fordcarsAnd it modified the level when I host
13:39:12Nothing_MuchIs it possible to use the Back button to go back in menus?\
13:39:14raptori had to load up the other level files into JS array
13:39:40fordcarsNothing_Much: I don't know, escape exits full screen :) But there is a fullscreen button up top
13:39:44raptorNothing_Much: instead of escape? what is the back button, on a joystick?
13:39:45fordcarsNext to emscipten
13:40:44fordcarsBut raptor, how does it work with WebGL?
13:41:22Nothing_MuchFullscreen Windowed mode is pretty bad though. lol
13:42:44raptori suspect firefox handles the JS better and chrome handles the WebGL better
13:42:51Nothing_MuchI think they both do
13:43:19raptorfordcars: basically emscripten detects a GL call, like glDrawBlah and puts it in javascript to call the browsers buildin webgl_glDrawBlah()
13:43:55raptoryeah fullscreen is currently horrible in firefox - no mouse, slow
13:44:16Nothing_Muchthere should be 2 versions
13:44:23Nothing_Muchthe embedded version and the native version :0
13:44:44raptori'm trying to make it so the same code base can compile to either, depending on the compiling tools you have installed
13:44:52Nothing_Muchawesome
13:44:54fordcarsraptor: this is so cool
13:45:03raptoryeah, but lots of work needed so far
13:45:12fordcarsI am not kidding it is faster than native for me, I have no idea why
13:45:22fordcarsExcept level loading, which might prove your point
13:45:37raptorfordcars: is native the 64bit or 32bit one you use?
13:46:06fordcarsNative 64-bit
13:46:14fordcarsraptor: I think it has to do with my graphic drivers
13:46:18fordcarsAnd v-synce
13:46:19Nothing_MuchI can't tell the differences lol
13:46:29fordcarsBitfighter says I have 60 fps
13:46:35Nothing_MuchBut honestly, this is the most amazing thing ever
13:46:42fordcarsBut it feels a bit slower, I tried turning of vsync but I have tearing
13:46:47fordcarsNothing_Much: this is nuts
13:46:50fordcarsI am in love
13:46:52raptoryeah, the tearing gets pretty bad sometimes
13:46:57Nothing_MuchI really hate the fact that I can't program :<
13:47:12Nothing_MuchReally, the only thing I could contribute is money
13:47:20Nothing_MuchAnd playing the game, but I want more players :(
13:47:32raptorso... it may still take a while, but when i get further, i'll ask you guys if you want to test again - hopefully we can do a network game, next iteration
13:47:43Nothing_MuchBut an embedded version of Bitfighter is going to be the best thing ever for everything
13:47:53Nothing_Muchrelated to BF
13:48:00Nothing_MuchOh and yeah, it doesn't connect to the master server
13:48:02Nothing_Muchyet
13:48:09Nothing_Much( "yet" right? )
13:48:12raptoryeah - that's my current fight
13:48:33raptorthe plan is to make it fully functional as can be... editor saving may be tricky though
13:48:35Nothing_MuchI hope Kaen finds out about this sometime in the future..
13:48:55fordcarsraptor: I don't know anything about this, but I think there is a udp javascript api or something
13:48:59fordcarsThat's all I know
13:49:00Nothing_MuchDoes the editor save the levels in a specific text or lua or *something* file?
13:49:10fordcarsNothing_Much: nobody knows I think hahaha
13:49:18Nothing_Muchwell..
13:49:21Nothing_Muchthe levels are downloadable
13:49:23raptorfordcars: yeah, i'm using it, but there's some weird bug with emscripten and our code base that prevents the network
13:49:27Nothing_Muchfrom pleadeis..?
13:49:37fordcarsOuhh
13:49:40raptorNothing_Much: good question... i have no idea!
13:49:46Nothing_Muchwait
13:49:50Nothing_Muchwhere's the plaides link?
13:50:01fordcarshttp://bitfighter.org/levels/
13:50:01Nothing_Muchhttp://bitfighter.org/pleiades/
13:50:02Nothing_Muchfound it!
13:50:04raptorsince network is broke, it is probably disabled
13:50:05fordcarsHahah
13:50:16Nothing_MuchOH
13:50:19Nothing_MuchIt's a .level file :D
13:50:30Nothing_Muchin a .zip :D
13:50:57raptoractually, i wonder if /dlmap works...
13:51:06Nothing_Muchlemme see
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13:52:09fordcars_Lol
13:52:17raptorlooks like that crashed the browser
13:52:22fordcars_Trying to download from Pleiades made some of my chrome tabs crash
13:52:28raptorhaha, me too
13:52:30fordcars_Haha
13:52:35raptorso yeah... work to do :)
13:52:37Nothing_MuchThe mouse stopped working in Chrome
13:52:39Nothing_Much:(
13:52:43Nothing_Muchwork?
13:52:50Nothing_Muchcan a hobby be work
13:52:51Nothing_Much?
13:53:04raptoroh yes - uhhh, at least how i understand the concept of work
13:53:19raptorthen there's 'work' where you have to earn to eay
13:53:21raptor*eat
13:53:43Nothing_Muchyeah, my job is pretty weird, but the problem is mostly the systems
13:53:53Nothing_Muchis there a way to learn how to program for free that's not online?
13:54:18fordcars_Oh, for chrome anyways, when emscripten resizes the canvas instead of the native resolution, I get way less fps
13:54:24fordcars_Which makes sense I guess
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13:58:23fordcarsraptor: Play with Bots button works
13:58:30fordcarsThis is so cool!
13:58:39fordcarsNothing_Much: write a bot :)
13:58:46fordcarsOr a levelgen
13:59:18fordcarsraptor: all that is missing is networking, white fonts, death animation and stars :)
13:59:44Nothing_Muchwhat?
13:59:58fordcarsA bitfighter bot :)
14:00:14Nothing_Much:(
14:01:11raptorah, the stars and pixels in the zapped animation may be difficult... that part of opengl is not supported in emscripten
14:01:12fordcarsIt's super easy
14:01:23fordcarsOh
14:01:38Nothing_Muchfordcars, is there a template?
14:01:52fordcarsSure, any bots in the bots folder
14:02:00fordcarsUh, orbitbot would be easy
14:02:21fordcarsOr projectile shooter
14:02:40fordcarsOr even easier
14:02:51fordcarshttp://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1899
14:06:44Nothing_MuchIt looks simple
14:06:51Nothing_MuchWhat language is that?
14:06:58fordcarsLua :)
14:11:03fordcarsraptor: adding bots does work, I just didn't see him :)
14:11:20fordcarsThe real test will be running bobdaducks DnD though hahaha
14:11:52Nothing_Muchnoooo
14:12:13fordcarsx)
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15:11:31fordcarsLater!
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