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| 13:27:33 | raptor | hey fordcars, you around? |
| 13:27:43 | fordcars | Yep! |
| 13:28:03 | raptor | if i may ask, what OS/web browser do you use? |
| 13:28:36 | fordcars | Windows 64-bit Chrome 64-bit :) |
| 13:28:51 | raptor | can you test something for me? |
| 13:29:18 | fordcars | Sure! |
| 13:29:22 | raptor | try this URL out (wait about 45-60 seconds): http://bitfighter.org/~raptor/emscripten/bitfighter.html |
| 13:30:05 | fordcars | Ouuhh |
| 13:30:07 | fordcars | Emscripten |
| 13:30:18 | raptor | shhhh, it's top secret! |
| 13:30:32 | raptor | work-in-progress... |
| 13:30:45 | fordcars | raptor: |
| 13:30:50 | fordcars | YOU ARE NOT FREAKING SERIOUS |
| 13:30:51 | raptor | yes |
| 13:30:55 | raptor | :) |
| 13:30:58 | raptor | getting closer.... |
| 13:31:16 | raptor | i'm still fixing bugs in the network code - it doesn't connect to master yet |
| 13:31:23 | raptor | also, i don't know how the editor saves files, yet |
| 13:31:24 | fordcars | THIS IS AMAZING |
| 13:31:37 | raptor | just curious, are the TTF fonts all black for you? |
| 13:32:09 | fordcars | Yeah |
| 13:32:15 | fordcars | I guess those are TTF :) |
| 13:32:21 | raptor | ha, yeah |
| 13:32:22 | fordcars | Wow, did you try fullscreen? |
| 13:32:26 | raptor | no |
| 13:32:31 | raptor | i suspect it's broke, though? |
| 13:32:32 | fordcars | The framerate for me jumped to 60 |
| 13:32:36 | fordcars | No it works |
| 13:32:38 | fordcars | This is amazing |
| 13:32:43 | raptor | oh really?? with the mouse? |
| 13:32:44 | fordcars | It runs better than native for me |
| 13:33:08 | raptor | ha! interesting - chrome must do something weird |
| 13:33:17 | fordcars | But you can't press escape so you can stay in fullscreen :) |
| 13:33:29 | raptor | ah, yeah, that'll be an issue |
| 13:33:41 | fordcars | It's an easy javascript fix I think |
| 13:33:44 | Nothing_Much | emscription? |
| 13:33:47 | raptor | i've been working 3 weeks on this and finally got it show something last night |
| 13:34:02 | fordcars | But when I go in fullscreen mode, and press escape, my framerate changes from 30 to 60 |
| 13:34:07 | fordcars | And it runs amazingly |
| 13:34:16 | raptor | i want to at least get the fonts working and the network working |
| 13:34:18 | Nothing_Much | UH |
| 13:34:19 | Nothing_Much | OHHHHH |
| 13:34:21 | Nothing_Much | OH MY GOD |
| 13:34:31 | raptor | but that may be a long way still |
| 13:34:38 | fordcars | Oohh raptor emscriptens fullescreen button works |
| 13:34:41 | raptor | also fordcars, can you try /addbot? |
| 13:34:41 | Nothing_Much | OHHHH GOD I LOVE ALL OF YOU |
| 13:34:52 | raptor | Nothing_Much: sshhhh.. it's a secret! |
| 13:34:59 | Nothing_Much | Yes yes |
| 13:35:04 | Nothing_Much | It'll remain secret |
| 13:35:04 | raptor | it's not really working that well, but it's an alpha... |
| 13:35:08 | raptor | getting close though |
| 13:35:08 | Nothing_Much | Right |
| 13:35:16 | Nothing_Much | Don't release alphas, but ..a.s;hdpouy |
| 13:35:20 | fordcars | raptor: nothing happens :o |
| 13:35:31 | raptor | fordcars: no bot is added or the game dies? |
| 13:35:40 | Nothing_Much | What is emscripten? |
| 13:36:02 | fordcars | Nope :x |
| 13:36:04 | Nothing_Much | Actually.. is that like an embedded client server? |
| 13:36:14 | raptor | Nothing_Much: emscripten is a collection of compiling software/tools that let you turn c++ opengl code into javascript+webgl |
| 13:36:30 | fordcars | emscripten is magic |
| 13:36:42 | Nothing_Much | oh my god I wish I knew how to code |
| 13:36:44 | raptor | and it has matured significantly since trying it last year |
| 13:36:53 | Nothing_Much | but I am REALLY hoping this can be viable for the future |
| 13:36:57 | fordcars | raptor: this is absolutely amazing |
| 13:37:02 | fordcars | Even the editor |
| 13:37:02 | Nothing_Much | it truly is! |
| 13:37:04 | fordcars | It's so fast |
| 13:37:09 | Nothing_Much | how fast? |
| 13:37:14 | Nothing_Much | which web browser? |
| 13:37:16 | fordcars | 60fps fast! |
| 13:37:20 | fordcars | Chrome |
| 13:37:24 | fordcars | For me :) |
| 13:37:25 | raptor | i haven't tried the editor much - it works? |
| 13:37:34 | fordcars | raptor: it works amazingly |
| 13:37:43 | Nothing_Much | Mine lags quite a bit, actually |
| 13:37:46 | Nothing_Much | But this is an amazing step |
| 13:37:48 | raptor | i couldn't get th emouse to work well in my linux+firefox |
| 13:37:51 | Nothing_Much | For embedded play |
| 13:37:57 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: go in settings, and go in fullscreen mode |
| 13:38:00 | fordcars | And press escape |
| 13:38:17 | raptor | i wonder, can you save files in the editor? |
| 13:38:19 | fordcars | That's what I did, dunno why it worked for me :) |
| 13:38:25 | fordcars | Yes raptor |
| 13:38:28 | fordcars | Why |
| 13:38:31 | Nothing_Much | There's a fullscreen conflict with the Escape button :P |
| 13:38:31 | raptor | what |
| 13:38:38 | raptor | what does it do when you attempt to save? |
| 13:38:39 | fordcars | Wait Ill try |
| 13:38:47 | fordcars | It says "Level blahh saved" |
| 13:39:01 | raptor | haha, but to where?? |
| 13:39:11 | fordcars | And it modified the level when I host |
| 13:39:12 | Nothing_Much | Is it possible to use the Back button to go back in menus?\ |
| 13:39:14 | raptor | i had to load up the other level files into JS array |
| 13:39:40 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: I don't know, escape exits full screen :) But there is a fullscreen button up top |
| 13:39:44 | raptor | Nothing_Much: instead of escape? what is the back button, on a joystick? |
| 13:39:45 | fordcars | Next to emscipten |
| 13:40:44 | fordcars | But raptor, how does it work with WebGL? |
| 13:41:22 | Nothing_Much | Fullscreen Windowed mode is pretty bad though. lol |
| 13:42:44 | raptor | i suspect firefox handles the JS better and chrome handles the WebGL better |
| 13:42:51 | Nothing_Much | I think they both do |
| 13:43:19 | raptor | fordcars: basically emscripten detects a GL call, like glDrawBlah and puts it in javascript to call the browsers buildin webgl_glDrawBlah() |
| 13:43:55 | raptor | yeah fullscreen is currently horrible in firefox - no mouse, slow |
| 13:44:16 | Nothing_Much | there should be 2 versions |
| 13:44:23 | Nothing_Much | the embedded version and the native version :0 |
| 13:44:44 | raptor | i'm trying to make it so the same code base can compile to either, depending on the compiling tools you have installed |
| 13:44:52 | Nothing_Much | awesome |
| 13:44:54 | fordcars | raptor: this is so cool |
| 13:45:03 | raptor | yeah, but lots of work needed so far |
| 13:45:12 | fordcars | I am not kidding it is faster than native for me, I have no idea why |
| 13:45:22 | fordcars | Except level loading, which might prove your point |
| 13:45:37 | raptor | fordcars: is native the 64bit or 32bit one you use? |
| 13:46:06 | fordcars | Native 64-bit |
| 13:46:14 | fordcars | raptor: I think it has to do with my graphic drivers |
| 13:46:18 | fordcars | And v-synce |
| 13:46:19 | Nothing_Much | I can't tell the differences lol |
| 13:46:29 | fordcars | Bitfighter says I have 60 fps |
| 13:46:35 | Nothing_Much | But honestly, this is the most amazing thing ever |
| 13:46:42 | fordcars | But it feels a bit slower, I tried turning of vsync but I have tearing |
| 13:46:47 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: this is nuts |
| 13:46:50 | fordcars | I am in love |
| 13:46:52 | raptor | yeah, the tearing gets pretty bad sometimes |
| 13:46:57 | Nothing_Much | I really hate the fact that I can't program :< |
| 13:47:12 | Nothing_Much | Really, the only thing I could contribute is money |
| 13:47:20 | Nothing_Much | And playing the game, but I want more players :( |
| 13:47:32 | raptor | so... it may still take a while, but when i get further, i'll ask you guys if you want to test again - hopefully we can do a network game, next iteration |
| 13:47:43 | Nothing_Much | But an embedded version of Bitfighter is going to be the best thing ever for everything |
| 13:47:53 | Nothing_Much | related to BF |
| 13:48:00 | Nothing_Much | Oh and yeah, it doesn't connect to the master server |
| 13:48:02 | Nothing_Much | yet |
| 13:48:09 | Nothing_Much | ( "yet" right? ) |
| 13:48:12 | raptor | yeah - that's my current fight |
| 13:48:33 | raptor | the plan is to make it fully functional as can be... editor saving may be tricky though |
| 13:48:35 | Nothing_Much | I hope Kaen finds out about this sometime in the future.. |
| 13:48:55 | fordcars | raptor: I don't know anything about this, but I think there is a udp javascript api or something |
| 13:48:59 | fordcars | That's all I know |
| 13:49:00 | Nothing_Much | Does the editor save the levels in a specific text or lua or *something* file? |
| 13:49:10 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: nobody knows I think hahaha |
| 13:49:18 | Nothing_Much | well.. |
| 13:49:21 | Nothing_Much | the levels are downloadable |
| 13:49:23 | raptor | fordcars: yeah, i'm using it, but there's some weird bug with emscripten and our code base that prevents the network |
| 13:49:27 | Nothing_Much | from pleadeis..? |
| 13:49:37 | fordcars | Ouhh |
| 13:49:40 | raptor | Nothing_Much: good question... i have no idea! |
| 13:49:46 | Nothing_Much | wait |
| 13:49:50 | Nothing_Much | where's the plaides link? |
| 13:50:01 | fordcars | http://bitfighter.org/levels/ |
| 13:50:01 | Nothing_Much | http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/ |
| 13:50:02 | Nothing_Much | found it! |
| 13:50:04 | raptor | since network is broke, it is probably disabled |
| 13:50:05 | fordcars | Hahah |
| 13:50:16 | Nothing_Much | OH |
| 13:50:19 | Nothing_Much | It's a .level file :D |
| 13:50:30 | Nothing_Much | in a .zip :D |
| 13:50:57 | raptor | actually, i wonder if /dlmap works... |
| 13:51:06 | Nothing_Much | lemme see |
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| 13:52:09 | fordcars_ | Lol |
| 13:52:17 | raptor | looks like that crashed the browser |
| 13:52:22 | fordcars_ | Trying to download from Pleiades made some of my chrome tabs crash |
| 13:52:28 | raptor | haha, me too |
| 13:52:30 | fordcars_ | Haha |
| 13:52:35 | raptor | so yeah... work to do :) |
| 13:52:37 | Nothing_Much | The mouse stopped working in Chrome |
| 13:52:39 | Nothing_Much | :( |
| 13:52:43 | Nothing_Much | work? |
| 13:52:50 | Nothing_Much | can a hobby be work |
| 13:52:51 | Nothing_Much | ? |
| 13:53:04 | raptor | oh yes - uhhh, at least how i understand the concept of work |
| 13:53:19 | raptor | then there's 'work' where you have to earn to eay |
| 13:53:21 | raptor | *eat |
| 13:53:43 | Nothing_Much | yeah, my job is pretty weird, but the problem is mostly the systems |
| 13:53:53 | Nothing_Much | is there a way to learn how to program for free that's not online? |
| 13:54:18 | fordcars_ | Oh, for chrome anyways, when emscripten resizes the canvas instead of the native resolution, I get way less fps |
| 13:54:24 | fordcars_ | Which makes sense I guess |
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| 13:58:23 | fordcars | raptor: Play with Bots button works |
| 13:58:30 | fordcars | This is so cool! |
| 13:58:39 | fordcars | Nothing_Much: write a bot :) |
| 13:58:46 | fordcars | Or a levelgen |
| 13:59:18 | fordcars | raptor: all that is missing is networking, white fonts, death animation and stars :) |
| 13:59:44 | Nothing_Much | what? |
| 13:59:58 | fordcars | A bitfighter bot :) |
| 14:00:14 | Nothing_Much | :( |
| 14:01:11 | raptor | ah, the stars and pixels in the zapped animation may be difficult... that part of opengl is not supported in emscripten |
| 14:01:12 | fordcars | It's super easy |
| 14:01:23 | fordcars | Oh |
| 14:01:38 | Nothing_Much | fordcars, is there a template? |
| 14:01:52 | fordcars | Sure, any bots in the bots folder |
| 14:02:00 | fordcars | Uh, orbitbot would be easy |
| 14:02:21 | fordcars | Or projectile shooter |
| 14:02:40 | fordcars | Or even easier |
| 14:02:51 | fordcars | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1899 |
| 14:06:44 | Nothing_Much | It looks simple |
| 14:06:51 | Nothing_Much | What language is that? |
| 14:06:58 | fordcars | Lua :) |
| 14:11:03 | fordcars | raptor: adding bots does work, I just didn't see him :) |
| 14:11:20 | fordcars | The real test will be running bobdaducks DnD though hahaha |
| 14:11:52 | Nothing_Much | noooo |
| 14:12:13 | fordcars | x) |
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| 15:11:31 | fordcars | Later! |
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