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Lamp

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Post Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:26 pm

Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

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kaen

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Post Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:12 am

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

That's not really a cheat. You're farming flags from defenseless bots. You could do less work by making a bot that just blows itself up with mines (if that API were exposed).
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Post Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:39 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

kaen wrote:That's not really a cheat. You're farming flags from defenseless bots. You could do less work by making a bot that just blows itself up with mines (if that API were exposed).



Farming = cheating
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Post Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:58 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

You are not violating any rules of the game, therefore you are not cheating. Go do something more interesting, Lamp.
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Post Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:00 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

Our game has rules?
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Post Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:01 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

  Code:
bitfighter.exe -rules
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Post Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:56 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

See? I told ya Bitfighter rules!
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:27 am

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

In my opinion farming is bad form, but not really cheating.
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:51 am

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

Can someone enlighten me on why this isn't considered cheating? He is using a script to manipulate bots and gain an unfair advantage. Those without the script cannot gain flags as fast as he can. Therefore, it would seem to be cheating in my opinion.

Are you suggesting that to cheat the players must hack or exploit the game? He's not exploiting the game per se, but he's still doing something that other players physically cannot do without "cheating" themselves. He's using an external aid.
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:24 am

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

I think you're misunderstanding what's happening.

He's adding 100 AegisBots (a bot script that ships with bitfighter, and is available on all stock servers), which all spawn on top of each other. Shooting a bouncer triggers the bots (which are programmed to only shoot projectiles) to fire at the bouncer shot. Since they are all stacked on top of each other (because they have never moved) they all quickly kill each other.

What he's doing uses only components shipped with bitfighter. If you were playing with him, you would be just as able to pick up the flags as he is. Furthermore, if you were more skilled, you'd get more flags. Everything that happens is an intended consequence of mechanisms that were intentionally put into the game.

If a server allows anonymous players to add 100 bots, then the server is simply misconfigured.

Can we please drop this stupid topic?
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:12 am

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

Also the level would have to have one spawn point. Like.... Really?
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:44 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

sky_lark wrote:Can someone enlighten me on why this isn't considered cheating? He is using a script to manipulate bots and gain an unfair advantage. Those without the script cannot gain flags as fast as he can. Therefore, it would seem to be cheating in my opinion.

Are you suggesting that to cheat the players must hack or exploit the game? He's not exploiting the game per se, but he's still doing something that other players physically cannot do without "cheating" themselves. He's using an external aid.


Who me? I'm not using an external aid. The bots shoot at projectiles, right? When you have 50 Aegisbots stacked in the same place, they kill each other when trying to shoot the burst.
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:45 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

bobdaduck wrote:Also the level would have to have one spawn point. Like.... Really?



Many levels have one spawn point... including Cheap ones at least...
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:52 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

Lamp wrote:
bobdaduck wrote:Also the level would have to have one spawn point. Like.... Really?



Many levels have one spawn point... including Cheap ones at least...

Right. So, this is no more cheating than dungeons.
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:45 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

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Lamp wrote:
bobdaduck wrote:Also the level would have to have one spawn point. Like.... Really?



Many levels have one spawn point... including Cheap ones at least...

Right. So, this is no more cheating than dungeons.


Many match maps that aren't the best quality have one spawn point.
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:18 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

This thread is painfully illogical. kaen, my hat is off to you for trying.
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Post Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:01 pm

Re: Nexus cheat with AegisBots!

Sorry, I didn't realize AegisBot came with Bitfighter. I thought Lamp had downloaded a script and used it in addition to the game. If he is using non-exclusive materials to "beat the system," then I agree his actions are more about using wit and less about actually cheating.
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