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IRC Log for 2011-10-07

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05:12:00karamazovapyEVIL GENIUS LEVEL INSPIRATION
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09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit 9afcf1fb32c7 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Make sure object knows it's not being edited when we escape out of menu
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit 66574bc8583c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: whitespace
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit c175d034e141 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Probably trivially faster, and a little easier to read
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit b20f505f1d79 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Track pixelRatio in screenInfo
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit f6e265d4a400 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Automatically drop linewidth for small fonts to increase readability; Feel free to adjust the 9 number if you think it's not quite right...
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit a63a5ad8b33c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: resolve a minor longstanding link warning on VC++
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit e21bb77e7a2d | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Make smaller text look crisper by autoscaling linewidth for small text... will always be scaled between 1-2, works for (almost) every text in game and editor
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit 355d602886df | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit 7ef9e6ff0f1c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Release note
09:59:00BFLogBot - Commit 4fdffb0afd1b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge
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13:10:00watusimotohello
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14:53:00raptorgood morning!
14:53:00raptoroooo, new k level
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14:55:00watusimotohello
14:55:00raptorhowdy
14:55:00watusimotoI'm getting really sick of the crashy ubuntu
14:56:00raptorI'm sorry...
14:56:00raptoryou could try another desktop environment
14:56:00raptorif you are using GNOME, try XFCE
14:56:00sam686try updating first..
14:58:00sam686about 3 times in my ubuntu computer, the gui x-server crash when starting bitfighter, then comes back WITHOUT hardware acceleration..
14:58:00watusimotoI'm still on the previous version of ubuntu, as I believe the latest is even more crashy
14:59:00watusimotoI'm at the very beginning of the learning curve on this stuff
15:00:00raptorwell, you know my opinion
15:00:00watusimotosuse!
15:00:00sam686ubuntu sort of bites when it comes to fullscreen SDL (can not alt + tab)
15:01:00raptoryep - i like it because it's one of the best desktop distros that is also a stable server
15:01:00watusimotoI'm not going to make waves until I'm being paid to do so... or paid to do anything, really. or just paid.
15:01:00raptorhaha
15:01:00watusimotohardy har har
15:02:00raptori don't mean to belittle your situation, just partake in the ridiculousness of it...
15:02:00watusimotoit's pretty lame
15:03:00watusimotoI went to the ministry yesterday, and they said they'd approved the visa, and mailed it over a week ago
15:03:00raptorwhat
15:03:00watusimototo my address, not more than 15 mins away
15:03:00watusimotoso where the hell is it?
15:03:00raptoryeah... that seems odd
15:03:00watusimotothey were also supposed to send a copy to the Esch city hall
15:03:00watusimoto(esch being the city I'm in)
15:04:00watusimotoand they haven't seen it either
15:04:00watusimotoso either the mail lost two important letters at the same time, or someone is not being totally honest
15:04:00raptorsounds like they are not being entirely truthful
15:04:00watusimotowhen they were looking at my record, there were two women looking at the monitor
15:05:00watusimotoand they were whispering and shaking their heads a LOT more than I would have expected given that they were going to just tell me everything was approved and fine
15:05:00watusimotonormally, when you are about to give good news, you don't frown and look concerned
15:05:00karamazovapymaybe gretel handled it and was recently fired for her incompetence
15:06:00raptorif only employees were fired in the EU...
15:06:00watusimotomaybe... there is definitley something going on
15:06:00watusimotoso here we are, entering another weekend when nothing will happen, everything still unresolved
15:07:00watusimotowell, anyway... enough about that
15:07:00karamazovapyI'm entering another weekend of working on my thesis, likely without actually getting it done
15:07:00watusimotoit's my burden, and, when compared to other crap that people have to deal with, it's a pretty light one
15:08:00watusimotoah, thesis. thought you finished that up a while back.
15:08:00karamazovapyfinished the proposal a while back
15:08:00karamazovapygot so sick of dealing with it, I did nothing the entire summer
15:08:00watusimototypical thesis
15:08:00watusimotowork plan
15:08:00watusimotodo nothing all summer
15:09:00sam686got any more ideas for a "New Idea"? http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=914
15:09:00karamazovapyI made a zone control where the zone values go up the further you get into enemy territory...that's something fun!
15:11:00watusimotoholy crap, sam, that's a lot of ideas!
15:12:00raptorwow sam
15:12:00karamazovapyon the one hand, I think the secondary objective is a neat idea. on the other hand, there are already so many variations on gametypes, the game could potentially get really confusing.
15:13:00watusimotoI agree with your general thesis that simpler == better
15:13:00watusimotoa narrowly focused good design is better than lots of random options
15:13:00watusimotosome of those ideas might make good modules in their own right
15:14:00sam686there is N64 game that seem to use a feature, called "Power Core" that game you one of random ability lasting for less then 1 minute.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turok:_Rage_Wars#Power_Core
15:15:00karamazovapyoh - Turok
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15:24:00watusimotostupid crap crashed again
15:25:00sam686how does it crash? freeze? does ALT + CTRL + F1 work? press Ctrl + Alt + F7 to return to GUI
15:26:00raptorif it's a hard crash, then it's time to change distros (or versions)
15:28:00watusimotopower button is the only way to fix this crash
15:28:00watusimotoctrl-alt-f1 does nothing
15:28:00raptornuke the distro
15:28:00raptordon't look back
15:28:00watusimotoI'm thinking so
15:29:00watusimotoit may be that I'm running 64 bit linux
15:29:00watusimotoI hear that's less stable
15:29:00watusimotoat least with the graphics card
15:31:00sam686ok
15:32:00raptori think suse and gentoo have traditionally been the most stable 64bit distros
15:32:00raptorbut nowadays (within the last 3 years) there is no excuse for any linux distro to be less stable on 64bit than 32
15:36:00watusimotoamen
15:38:00sam686maybe that also might be the same reason why ubnutu crash in server 74.122.199.250 (i think it is ubuntu 64 bit)
15:38:00sam686where Zoomber say it crash, and had to restart it..
15:39:00raptorwhat is LIBCMT.lib?
15:40:00sam686http://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+libcmt.lib
15:41:00raptorlet me rephrase - how did it relate to bitfighter's build process and a linker warning?
15:43:00sam686not sure yet..'
15:43:00raptorPREV/NEXT buttons are white in server list screen
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16:05:00BFLogBot - Commit 0944157d47d0 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Minor cleanup
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19:05:00raptorlocked the Steve Jobs thread
19:16:00raptori hate using moderator powers
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19:39:00watusimotoraptor,you there?
19:39:00raptoryes
19:40:00watusimotoI was looking for the message where you sent me your redo of k's script. is that in the repo?
19:40:00raptorlet me resend
19:40:00watusimotoI want to take a look at it and how it now works
19:40:00watusimotook, thanks
19:41:00watusimotoI'm sitting on a very cold porch to have this chat :-)
19:41:00raptorit snowed yesterday here...
19:41:00raptorok resent
19:41:00watusimotoreally? lucky!
19:42:00watusimotothanks, got it.
19:42:00watusimotoI'm going to see if I can find a way to make it a plugin... then figure out what a plugin should be
19:42:00watusimotoit seems a good example
19:43:00watusimotook, I;m freezing... heading in. thanks!
19:44:00raptoryou're welcome
19:44:00raptorget warm
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23:35:00raptorwhat to code what to code...
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23:39:00raptorwatusimoto's text linewidth alteration code is great!
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