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| 00:52:54 | raptor | Watusimoto: are you against using PolyFonts instead of our GLUT one? |
| 00:53:05 | raptor | because we'd have loads more symbols |
| 00:53:29 | raptor | and i'd still only use stroke fonts so performance would be similar |
| 00:53:48 | raptor | maybe even better - the data stores everything as int in stead of float |
| 01:34:39 | Watusimoto | going to bed -- not violently opposed, if fonts looked the same |
| 01:35:33 | raptor | night |
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| 10:04:21 | antoszka | moanin' |
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| 15:46:45 | raptor | buenos |
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| 16:39:06 | raptor | 2pt barriers that have the same point |
| 16:39:36 | raptor | i remember handling that case somewhere for an earlier version |
| 16:40:00 | raptor | when loaded up, we added like 0.1 to the length |
| 16:40:26 | raptor | so they wouldn't be de-duped |
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| 17:30:56 | raptor | I'm removing references to Robotron |
| 17:48:26 | Watusimoto_ | hi -- my fix was just to check for the special case of two points on top of each other, and explicitly allow |
| 17:48:54 | Watusimoto_ | may be able to check it in later this evening |
| 17:49:04 | Watusimoto_ | 'till then... adieu! |
| 17:52:14 | raptor | bye |
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| 19:27:25 | karamazovapy | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitfighter.org |
| 19:27:57 | karamazovapy | I'm starting to question the reliability of this new master |
| 19:28:14 | raptor | yeah, me too... |
| 19:28:18 | raptor | it's up now |
| 19:28:28 | raptor | but i think it was asleep or something before... |
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| 19:28:42 | karamazovapy | I'm still having trouble accessing it |
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| 19:28:46 | karamazovapy | I'm still having trouble accessing it |
| 19:29:56 | karamazovapy | my client connects fine, but the web site is giving me trouble |
| 19:31:15 | raptor | ok, restarted the web server |
| 19:32:12 | karamazovapy | yeah, I still can't get to bitfighter.org |
| 19:33:14 | karamazovapy | no idea what's up. |
| 19:33:56 | karamazovapy | huh...I can get there from internet explorer, but not firefox |
| 19:34:17 | raptor | clear cache! |
| 19:34:23 | raptor | weird |
| 19:36:18 | karamazovapy | looks like blackbird and footloose might be having problems, too |
| 19:36:35 | karamazovapy | clearing the cache worked |
| 19:36:50 | raptor | i wonder if DNS got moved around again.. |
| 19:38:33 | karamazovapy | well I don't think I'll be using this webhost for my own site, that's all I'm saying |
| 19:40:12 | raptor | which one is it? |
| 19:40:52 | karamazovapy | I don't know, but I intend to find out before purchasing hosting! |
| 20:10:07 | raptor | split posts to a new topic in meta forums |
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| 20:40:52 | raptor | Hi koda, I have two SDL problems on Mac that I am wonder if you have run into (and maybe have solutions...) |
| 20:41:04 | koda | hi raptor |
| 20:41:07 | koda | let's hear them |
| 20:41:28 | raptor | 1. SDL window going completely black when you hide/minimize it then unhide/unminimize |
| 20:42:01 | raptor | 2. switching to full screen using SDL_FULLSCREEN | SDL_OPENGL and the window disappears; i then have to force quit |
| 20:45:07 | raptor | I have an idea that #1 may be related to losing the opengl context somehow |
| 20:45:38 | raptor | and another idea that #2 may be related to the opengl pixel format being different for full screen |
| 20:47:46 | raptor | i am using SDL 1.2 and I am well aware that the Mac side of things hasn't received as much love and attention... |
| 20:56:09 | raptor | karamazovapy: what do you think about Core health regen, like with turrets/FFs? |
| 20:57:35 | koda | raptor: sorry no idea about those issues |
| 20:57:50 | raptor | ok, i'll keep digging.. |
| 20:57:52 | koda | are you going to participate in google summer of code this year? :) |
| 20:58:08 | raptor | for hedgewars? |
| 20:58:28 | raptor | bitfighter may be a little small... |
| 20:59:14 | karamazovapy | I think we should give the core gametype a little time to breathe before we tweak it too much |
| 20:59:39 | karamazovapy | let's see how FREE BAIT goes and then reconvene |
| 20:59:51 | raptor | good idea |
| 20:59:56 | koda | raptor: hw was in gsoc last year! |
| 21:00:16 | koda | and it's no problem being small |
| 21:00:31 | koda | you just need to have good ideas and good people willing to mentor |
| 21:00:42 | raptor | really? i thought we'd have to have at least 10 humans in the IRC channel at all times first... ;) |
| 21:01:43 | karamazovapy | hmm... http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 |
| 21:02:19 | karamazovapy | I'm looking for the indie games in the crowd |
| 21:02:40 | raptor | hedgewars was there |
| 21:02:53 | raptor | battle for wesnoth |
| 21:03:32 | raptor | freedroid |
| 21:03:45 | karamazovapy | yeah, I'm seeing some of them |
| 21:05:12 | karamazovapy | hah... "We support two multiplayer game servers (stable and development) with a usual minimum load of more than a hundred players" |
| 21:05:45 | raptor | where is that? |
| 21:05:54 | karamazovapy | that's on battle for wesnoth's info page |
| 21:06:09 | karamazovapy | along with over 4.5 million downloads from sourceforge and over 2000 a day |
| 21:06:20 | raptor | yeah that game is a monster |
| 21:06:32 | karamazovapy | funny I've never heard of it, though |
| 21:06:52 | karamazovapy | not that I don't believe it, just interesting that I've never heard anyone mention it before now |
| 21:07:02 | koda | also unknown horizons |
| 21:07:34 | karamazovapy | saw that |
| 21:07:42 | raptor | i've never heard of that one.. |
| 21:10:04 | raptor | installing it now.. |
| 21:10:40 | karamazovapy | that's one I have heard of, incidentally |
| 21:12:02 | koda | you should think about it! |
| 21:12:38 | karamazovapy | what would we do with grant money from google? pay for servers? |
| 21:12:58 | koda | most of the money goes to the students |
| 21:13:06 | koda | the mentor keeps just 500$ |
| 21:13:08 | karamazovapy | what?! |
| 21:13:15 | karamazovapy | why are we paying students?! |
| 21:13:15 | koda | and a trip to googleplex |
| 21:13:21 | karamazovapy | what what what?! |
| 21:13:24 | koda | you are not, google is :p |
| 21:13:43 | karamazovapy | this is madness! |
| 21:14:22 | karamazovapy | students need to learn that coding is soul draining and unrewarding |
| 21:14:38 | karamazovapy | not a fun, financially viable option |
| 21:16:16 | raptor | i'll have to pay more attention to unknown-horizons when i get home - it has good graphics... |
| 21:16:29 | raptor | but we know that's not everything.. |
| 21:17:13 | karamazovapy | I think bitfighter has good graphics, they're just stylized |
| 21:17:20 | raptor | :) |
| 21:17:30 | raptor | koda: did you get a trip to googleplex? |
| 21:18:01 | koda | yes |
| 21:18:34 | raptor | neat! |
| 21:19:59 | koda | i didn't mentor any student though |
| 21:20:19 | koda | we only had 2 students assigned and one of them vanished <_< |
| 21:20:55 | raptor | oops |
| 21:21:11 | raptor | what happens in that case? do they make like bandits with the cash? |
| 21:24:21 | koda | you fail the student early so it doesn't get any cash at all |
| 21:24:40 | raptor | they're graded? cool |
| 21:26:26 | koda | yup, it's quite exciting initiative |
| 21:26:41 | koda | and it's an easy way to get the irc channel very crowded :) |
| 21:27:41 | raptor | hmmm... |
| 21:28:01 | raptor | now you're making it sound fun.. |
| 21:33:57 | koda | if you wish i can admin it for you, |
| 21:34:04 | raptor | uhh... |
| 21:34:28 | koda | although that's part of the fun :p |
| 21:34:28 | raptor | we should probably get the head developer, watusimoto, to think on this too |
| 21:34:55 | raptor | what.. admitting poor unsuspecting projects? :) |
| 21:36:03 | koda | administrating, threatening both students and mentors... |
| 21:36:13 | koda | :D |
| 21:36:15 | raptor | haha |
| 21:36:21 | koda | reminding and respecting deadlines |
| 21:36:27 | koda | paperwork! |
| 21:36:38 | raptor | deadlines sound horrible |
| 21:36:55 | raptor | especially for a hobby |
| 21:37:04 | karamazovapy | how old are students usually? highschool? undergrad? |
| 21:37:35 | koda | they usually are from university, so undergrad and grad alike |
| 21:37:46 | koda | but there can be docs and postdocs as well |
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| 21:43:25 | raptor | so basically a student would mostly likely be better skilled than I in any endeavor... |
| 21:44:40 | raptor | i guess this would be a good way to get some more smarts into the project |
| 21:46:20 | karamazovapy | being more qualified than his/her seniors would be good real-world training! |
| 21:46:41 | raptor | haha, so true! |
| 21:54:01 | raptor | what would you guys think about getting bitfighter on desura? |
| 21:54:36 | raptor | have you guys thought about doing that for hedgewars, koda? |
| 21:57:46 | koda | yes, but desura requires active community *on* desura to get there |
| 21:57:57 | koda | and we didn't have the manpower to deal with that as well |
| 21:58:13 | raptor | ah |
| 21:58:25 | raptor | yeah, i don't think we have that either |
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| 22:05:38 | koda | we actually tried to get on steam |
| 22:05:44 | koda | but we failed miserably |
| 22:10:57 | raptor | I think I know a good project for GSoC: better robots |
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| 23:22:48 | raptor | i think i scared away another player... |
| 23:23:30 | raptor | gotta stop playing one on one games with new playres... |
| 23:26:51 | Watusimoto | at least you get a chance to win :-) |
| 23:55:46 | raptor | ok, off to home! |