#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-09-12

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00:16:57 BFLogBot - Commit 610073942f3c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: A little cleanup
00:16:58 BFLogBot - Commit 2fe9516a4523 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge
00:17:00 BFLogBot - Commit 4092b85979ed | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Finalize the "loose function" refactor
00:17:04 BFLogBot - Commit e55005d027c6 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix random function -- now works just like the one we're overriding from math.random
00:17:06 BFLogBot - Commit 5278d7b06b8d | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Bind our random function to math.random in C++ rather than in lua code
00:17:07 BFLogBot - Commit 8fb204a51373 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Formatting
00:17:09 BFLogBot - Commit 492400529b39 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Lua documentation generator, runs but doesn't yet work
00:17:10 BFLogBot - Commit 13b62ca57ed4 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Sample comments for testing purposes
00:17:12 BFLogBot - Commit 74a8a3eadf71 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Grabbed naev templates for building docs that we can customize, some cleanup that looks left over from before vacation
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01:19:19 raptor so i found out that SMITE was CleverBot
01:19:25 raptor and S_bot
01:19:32 raptor and botfighter
01:20:04 raptor and HackBot
01:20:13 raptor and Llort
01:20:21 raptor and ChumpChangez
01:24:47 raptor that's all that the IP matches...
01:24:52 raptor ok, gotta go again..
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03:26:05 raptor i'm going to adjust heatseeker...
03:30:26 raptor sam686: you around?
03:44:09 sam686 hi
03:44:13 raptor hi
03:45:06 raptor want to join my server to test the slightly different turn speed?
03:45:10 raptor of heat seeker
03:45:59 sam686 ok
04:42:37 BFLogBot - Commit d1d8827adf3f | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Heat seeker changes.  Does more damage, lives a little longer, turns slightly sharper, and targets slightly better
04:50:50 raptor i'm trying to find something faster than pointCanSeePoint to determine if a wall is in the way
04:53:43 raptor found it
04:53:47 raptor BfObject::objectIntersectsSegment
05:22:42 BFLogBot - Commit 40a925a7132f | Author: sam8641 | Log: let Heat seeker bounce off the Shield, like all bullet bounce off the shield.
05:24:16 raptor ok sam686, i'm stuck
05:24:20 raptor this isn't working:  http://pastie.org/4705918
05:24:25 raptor i'm not sure why
05:25:38 sam686 Looking ...
05:26:22 raptor i think it's because i'm getting sleepy...
05:28:32 raptor ha!
05:28:39 sam686 first problem, it needs a target first..
05:28:40 raptor i'm using the wrong fillVector
05:29:14 sam686 second problem,  2 fillVectors conflicts with eachother
05:29:25 raptor yes, ok, thanks
05:29:27 raptor i'll fix
05:31:27 raptor it works!
05:32:15 raptor ok, want to test again?
05:32:44 BFLogBot - Commit 318552368276 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Heat seeker will not acquire a target if there is a wall in the way
05:32:59 sam686 ok
05:37:46 BFLogBot - Commit 8d3bb8471a35 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Minor performance improvement
05:42:48 BFLogBot - Commit fe5b8f2eb44b | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Remove debugging
05:57:51 BFLogBot - Commit dfab929e4aa7 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Heat seeker will not target through forcefields either (unless down)
05:58:47 sam686 night
05:58:52 raptor night
05:58:59 raptor are you going to fix bounce?
05:59:06 sam686 Probably
05:59:06 raptor does it need fixing?
05:59:53 sam686 te bouncer not bouncing heat seeker  off shield seem wrong
06:00:08 raptor hmmm
06:00:10 raptor ok
06:00:17 raptor night! (for real)
06:00:48 sam686 night (for fake)
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14:50:34 raptor yes - shop class must be back...
15:04:13 watusimoto sigh
15:04:26 watusimoto starting to hate documentation
15:04:33 watusimoto the naev method won't work
15:04:42 watusimoto there's no facility for showing an object model
15:04:45 raptor ?
15:04:53 raptor ah
15:04:57 watusimoto so documenting inheritance won't work, and we need that
15:04:59 raptor yeah it's C
15:05:02 watusimoto so frustrating
15:05:04 watusimoto http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12388376/how-should-i-document-a-lua-api-object-model-written-in-c-code
15:05:11 watusimoto so I did that
15:05:36 raptor already 5 votes!
15:05:38 watusimoto to be fair, it's more a limitation of luadoc than a naev issue
15:05:51 watusimoto the real answer is that there is no good solution
15:06:02 watusimoto I may try the proposed answer, but it is ugly
15:06:22 watusimoto the alternative is to hack luadoc
15:06:43 watusimoto or, maybe, press on with my -luadoc option and have it spit out stuff that can be post-processed
15:07:11 watusimoto but I really am not interested in writing a documentation generation system
15:07:39 raptor so full separation by namespace of all the Lua methods?
15:09:29 watusimoto not doing that
15:09:50 watusimoto not possible, as they need to be intermingled with the other bfObject methods
15:10:18 watusimoto but possibly the @cond hack
15:10:29 watusimoto /// @cond LUADOC
15:10:36 watusimoto /// @endcond
15:10:42 watusimoto surrounding all the lua stuff
15:10:45 watusimoto blech
15:13:22 watusimoto find me a better solution and you can get the stackoverflow points!!
15:13:55 raptor i don't know - my thinking is still along the lines of some crazy parsing script
15:14:28 raptor like parse all the lua methods, find their heirarchy, grab their doc
15:15:54 raptor xpilots
15:16:00 watusimoto one thing I like about qtdocs is they have an option to show all methods, inherited and locally implemented, of an object
15:16:00 raptor why have i never played that before?
15:16:30 watusimoto not sure, but I saw some screenshots that illustrate why my idea of allowing textured walls would majorly suck
15:16:40 watusimoto in the wrong hands, at least
15:16:43 raptor noisy
15:16:52 watusimoto I can't get it to compile here
15:17:01 raptor qtdocs?
15:17:06 watusimoto xpilot
15:17:38 watusimoto qtdocs is generated with a hacked up version of doxygen
15:18:12 watusimoto parsing script could work, but actually generating the docs is hard
15:18:33 watusimoto if I could find a tool that could generate the output we want, I could probably modify the perl script to create the needed input
15:18:58 watusimoto luadocs is nice, but needs to illustrate object hierarchy, and I'm not sure I'm up for adding that
15:19:19 raptor yeah, you should be coding bitfighter instead!
15:21:38 raptor xpilot build system is worse than ours!
15:22:10 raptor compiled!
15:22:42 raptor wow, almost entirely native libraries
15:22:51 raptor no SDL/openAL
15:23:03 watusimoto building is almost painless
15:23:06 watusimoto for us
15:24:06 raptor argh need instructions
15:25:23 raptor aaaah
15:25:26 raptor one shot kills
15:28:17 raptor infinite maps
15:28:25 raptor edge wrapping
15:29:00 raptor relative controls - almost no drag
15:29:43 watusimoto I think I played it once a while ago
15:29:52 watusimoto didn't like it
15:30:01 watusimoto but always happy to steal ideas
15:30:03 raptor bitfighter actually looks well-polished in comparison
15:30:06 watusimoto do they have heat seekers?
15:30:14 watusimoto :-)
15:30:19 raptor uhh, i couldn't figure out the weapons
15:30:36 raptor but i say different hull types flying around
15:30:38 raptor *saw
15:33:52 raptor right before i exploded, usually
15:34:04 watusimoto welll... it's possible:
15:34:04 watusimoto http://7b5labs.com/xpilotiphone
15:34:55 raptor wow
15:35:09 raptor the project has been around long enough that people have written different styled clients
15:36:15 watusimoto And then there is the "items map" where
15:36:15 watusimoto the objective is simply to collect items to help you slaughter your
15:36:15 watusimoto opponent while attempting to avoid getting shot. On these maps, your
15:36:15 watusimoto ship can have various kinds of special weapons like mines, smart
15:36:15 watusimoto missiles, heat seekers and so on.??
15:36:21 watusimoto so yes
15:36:33 watusimoto see if you can get one of those to work somehow
15:36:34 raptor interesting
15:36:44 watusimoto there seems to be about 500 keys
15:37:09 raptor i'm not sure how to go to anything but a deathmatch map...
15:43:50 watusimoto the level editor horribly sucks
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15:52:59 raptor laerning curve is killing me
15:53:07 Little_Apple helloo
15:53:31 Little_Apple im not dead. sorry to dissapoint
15:53:46 raptor oh wow, map editor is horrific
15:53:49 raptor hi Little_Apple
15:54:03 Little_Apple watcha doin?
15:54:15 raptor taking a look at a game called 'xpilot'
15:54:23 raptor it is similar to bitfighter, but much older
15:54:30 Little_Apple hmmm
15:54:44 Little_Apple ugh i hate this mouse.
15:56:24 Little_Apple the site is???.
15:57:07 Little_Apple no new releases since 2010...
15:58:22 Little_Apple do you have to compile it??
15:58:27 raptor yes
15:58:35 raptor like i say, it's old school
15:58:46 Little_Apple wow.
15:58:54 Little_Apple THEY HAVE THEIR OWN IPHONE APP
15:59:00 Little_Apple BITFIGHTER IS BEHIND IT
16:01:13 Little_Apple do you have a code compiler for mac?
16:01:18 Little_Apple xcode appears to be outdated.
16:04:39 Little_Apple hello?
16:06:24 watusimoto next platform is android, not iphone
16:06:26 watusimoto sorry
16:07:30 Little_Apple next next platform?
16:09:04 watusimoto if we build for a device it will be android first
16:09:07 watusimoto oh
16:09:10 watusimoto sorry, who knows?
16:09:22 watusimoto none of us has an iphone or wants to deal with apple
16:09:45 raptor my wife was given a hand-me-down ipod touch recently
16:09:50 raptor i never thought i could hate apple more
16:10:02 raptor *strongly dislike
16:10:14 Little_Apple lol
16:10:22 watusimoto ha
16:10:33 watusimoto can't be that bad!
16:10:41 Little_Apple id kinda like to go back to lion and downgrade from mountain lion
16:10:50 raptor i could not believe how hard it was to control your own device
16:10:57 Little_Apple mountain lion messed a few things up
16:11:29 raptor we set up some rules for it:  no apple accounts, only internal LAN access, only used for books or music
16:12:00 Little_Apple anyway
16:12:01 raptor even after jailbreaking it, you still cannot copy files to it via USB unless you have a 'nanny' program
16:12:10 Little_Apple do you have a code compiler that i could use?
16:12:10 watusimoto wow
16:12:57 raptor Little_Apple: you may have to isntall mac ports?
16:13:15 Little_Apple ?
16:13:28 Little_Apple i mean a code compiler i could use for mac
16:13:35 Little_Apple like xcode but not
16:13:39 raptor errr - you'll probably have to have developer tools installed, and use the commandline Makefile
16:13:55 raptor everything will be commandline if it isn't xcode
16:13:59 raptor just forewarning
16:14:28 Little_Apple i have the dev tools installed...
16:14:58 Little_Apple the version of xcode i have is outdated tho. it wont work on mountain lion
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19:44:11 BFLogBot - Commit 9bf96367a578 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Streamline code a little
19:44:12 BFLogBot - Commit 4b753f5cf151 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: More test data
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23:23:56 sam686 Fordcard have a right mouse button on mac bitfighter problems? http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1571
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23:27:28 raptor hi
23:28:19 raptor well that's no good
23:31:45 Watusimoto hi
23:31:51 Watusimoto I've solved the doc problem, mostly
23:31:55 raptor oh yeah?
23:31:58 Watusimoto yeah
23:32:06 Watusimoto It's painful
23:32:09 Watusimoto but it works
23:32:30 Watusimoto I'm writing an elaborate perl program to parse our source and generaet a new set of fake source files that doxygen can read
23:33:20 raptor sounds good to me..
23:33:28 raptor painful just once, though right?
23:33:46 raptor like we don't have to write /// @cond  everywhere in the doc
23:35:26 Watusimoto we do, but only once
23:35:37 Watusimoto  * @luafunc Teleporter::addDest(dest)
23:35:37 Watusimoto  * @brief Adds a destination to the teleporter
23:35:37 Watusimoto  * @param dest - A Point or coordinate pair representing the location of the destination
23:35:37 Watusimoto  */
23:35:40 Watusimoto for example
23:36:10 Watusimoto oh wait, I see
23:36:15 Watusimoto no @cond
23:36:23 Watusimoto only comments where we want them
23:36:28 raptor ok good
23:36:48 Watusimoto here's one of my generated classes
23:36:49 Watusimoto class Teleporter : BfObject {
23:36:49 Watusimoto  public:
23:36:49 Watusimoto void addDest() { }
23:36:49 Watusimoto void delDest() { }
23:36:50 Watusimoto void clearDests() { }
23:36:52 Watusimoto };
23:36:55 Watusimoto that from teleporter.h
23:36:58 raptor so once upon a time
23:37:05 Watusimoto then there's lots of comments mixed in
23:37:22 raptor i wrote a python script that grabbed all the Lua methods (by looking for the Lunar signature) and spit them out
23:37:24 raptor here:  https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/scripts/parse_lua_methods.py?repo=tools
23:37:38 Watusimoto oh yes, I remember that
23:38:02 Watusimoto when I check it in, have a look at my perl code and see if you can read it
23:38:07 raptor ok
23:38:09 raptor :)
23:38:32 raptor do you do something similar with the perl?  build up a list of methods that meat the Lua signature?
23:38:34 Watusimoto alas theres lots of regexps which always make things complex looking
23:38:39 Watusimoto no
23:38:47 raptor *meet
23:38:48 Watusimoto I look for REGISTER_LUA_SUBCLASS(Teleporter, BfObject);
23:39:00 raptor close enough
23:39:04 Watusimoto and
23:39:05 Watusimoto #define LUA_METHODS(CLASS, METHOD) \
23:39:05 Watusimoto    METHOD(CLASS, addDest,    ARRAYDEF({{ PT,  END }}), 1 ) \
23:39:05 Watusimoto    METHOD(CLASS, delDest,    ARRAYDEF({{ INT, END }}), 1 ) \
23:39:05 Watusimoto    METHOD(CLASS, clearDests, ARRAYDEF({{      END }}), 1 ) \
23:39:05 Watusimoto GENERATE_LUA_METHODS_TABLE(Teleporter, LUA_METHODS);
23:39:10 Watusimoto everything flows from there
23:39:29 Watusimoto sort of
23:56:01 Watusimoto I just checked things in; teleport.cpp is marked up with my proposed markup.  It needs to be expanded, but I think it looks pretty good
23:56:15 raptor goes to look
23:56:40 Watusimoto hope its there... tried new checkin method
23:59:37 BFLogBot - Commit ed0da55871d8 | Author: Watusimoto | Log: Use doxygen to create lua docs, alpha version.
23:59:39 BFLogBot - Commit 528e8d709744 | Author: Watusimoto | Log: Grammar

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00:16:57		BFLogBot - Commit 610073942f3c \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: A little cleanup
00:16:58		BFLogBot - Commit 2fe9516a4523 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Merge
00:17:00		BFLogBot - Commit 4092b85979ed \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Finalize the "loose function" refactor
00:17:04		BFLogBot - Commit e55005d027c6 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Fix random function -- now works just like the one we're overriding from math.random
00:17:06		BFLogBot - Commit 5278d7b06b8d \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Bind our random function to math.random in C++ rather than in lua code
00:17:07		BFLogBot - Commit 8fb204a51373 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Formatting
00:17:09		BFLogBot - Commit 492400529b39 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Lua documentation generator, runs but doesn't yet work
00:17:10		BFLogBot - Commit 13b62ca57ed4 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Sample comments for testing purposes
00:17:12		BFLogBot - Commit 74a8a3eadf71 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Grabbed naev templates for building docs that we can customize, some cleanup that looks left over from before vacation
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01:19:19	raptor	so i found out that SMITE was CleverBot
01:19:25	raptor	and S_bot
01:19:32	raptor	and botfighter
01:20:04	raptor	and HackBot
01:20:13	raptor	and Llort
01:20:21	raptor	and ChumpChangez
01:24:47	raptor	that's all that the IP matches...
01:24:52	raptor	ok, gotta go again..
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03:26:05	raptor	i'm going to adjust heatseeker...
03:30:26	raptor	sam686: you around?
03:44:09	sam686	hi
03:44:13	raptor	hi
03:45:06	raptor	want to join my server to test the slightly different turn speed?
03:45:10	raptor	of heat seeker
03:45:59	sam686	ok
04:42:37		BFLogBot - Commit d1d8827adf3f \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Heat seeker changes. Does more damage, lives a little longer, turns slightly sharper, and targets slightly better
04:50:50	raptor	i'm trying to find something faster than pointCanSeePoint to determine if a wall is in the way
04:53:43	raptor	found it
04:53:47	raptor	BfObject::objectIntersectsSegment
05:22:42		BFLogBot - Commit 40a925a7132f \| Author: sam8641 \| Log: let Heat seeker bounce off the Shield, like all bullet bounce off the shield.
05:24:16	raptor	ok sam686, i'm stuck
05:24:20	raptor	this isn't working: http://pastie.org/4705918
05:24:25	raptor	i'm not sure why
05:25:38	sam686	Looking ...
05:26:22	raptor	i think it's because i'm getting sleepy...
05:28:32	raptor	ha!
05:28:39	sam686	first problem, it needs a target first..
05:28:40	raptor	i'm using the wrong fillVector
05:29:14	sam686	second problem, 2 fillVectors conflicts with eachother
05:29:25	raptor	yes, ok, thanks
05:29:27	raptor	i'll fix
05:31:27	raptor	it works!
05:32:15	raptor	ok, want to test again?
05:32:44		BFLogBot - Commit 318552368276 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Heat seeker will not acquire a target if there is a wall in the way
05:32:59	sam686	ok
05:37:46		BFLogBot - Commit 8d3bb8471a35 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Minor performance improvement
05:42:48		BFLogBot - Commit fe5b8f2eb44b \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Remove debugging
05:57:51		BFLogBot - Commit dfab929e4aa7 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Heat seeker will not target through forcefields either (unless down)
05:58:47	sam686	night
05:58:52	raptor	night
05:58:59	raptor	are you going to fix bounce?
05:59:06	sam686	Probably
05:59:06	raptor	does it need fixing?
05:59:53	sam686	te bouncer not bouncing heat seeker off shield seem wrong
06:00:08	raptor	hmmm
06:00:10	raptor	ok
06:00:17	raptor	night! (for real)
06:00:48	sam686	night (for fake)
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14:50:34	raptor	yes - shop class must be back...
15:04:13	watusimoto	sigh
15:04:26	watusimoto	starting to hate documentation
15:04:33	watusimoto	the naev method won't work
15:04:42	watusimoto	there's no facility for showing an object model
15:04:45	raptor	?
15:04:53	raptor	ah
15:04:57	watusimoto	so documenting inheritance won't work, and we need that
15:04:59	raptor	yeah it's C
15:05:02	watusimoto	so frustrating
15:05:04	watusimoto	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12388376/how-should-i-document-a-lua-api-object-model-written-in-c-code
15:05:11	watusimoto	so I did that
15:05:36	raptor	already 5 votes!
15:05:38	watusimoto	to be fair, it's more a limitation of luadoc than a naev issue
15:05:51	watusimoto	the real answer is that there is no good solution
15:06:02	watusimoto	I may try the proposed answer, but it is ugly
15:06:22	watusimoto	the alternative is to hack luadoc
15:06:43	watusimoto	or, maybe, press on with my -luadoc option and have it spit out stuff that can be post-processed
15:07:11	watusimoto	but I really am not interested in writing a documentation generation system
15:07:39	raptor	so full separation by namespace of all the Lua methods?
15:09:29	watusimoto	not doing that
15:09:50	watusimoto	not possible, as they need to be intermingled with the other bfObject methods
15:10:18	watusimoto	but possibly the @cond hack
15:10:29	watusimoto	/// @cond LUADOC
15:10:36	watusimoto	/// @endcond
15:10:42	watusimoto	surrounding all the lua stuff
15:10:45	watusimoto	blech
15:13:22	watusimoto	find me a better solution and you can get the stackoverflow points!!
15:13:55	raptor	i don't know - my thinking is still along the lines of some crazy parsing script
15:14:28	raptor	like parse all the lua methods, find their heirarchy, grab their doc
15:15:54	raptor	xpilots
15:16:00	watusimoto	one thing I like about qtdocs is they have an option to show all methods, inherited and locally implemented, of an object
15:16:00	raptor	why have i never played that before?
15:16:30	watusimoto	not sure, but I saw some screenshots that illustrate why my idea of allowing textured walls would majorly suck
15:16:40	watusimoto	in the wrong hands, at least
15:16:43	raptor	noisy
15:16:52	watusimoto	I can't get it to compile here
15:17:01	raptor	qtdocs?
15:17:06	watusimoto	xpilot
15:17:38	watusimoto	qtdocs is generated with a hacked up version of doxygen
15:18:12	watusimoto	parsing script could work, but actually generating the docs is hard
15:18:33	watusimoto	if I could find a tool that could generate the output we want, I could probably modify the perl script to create the needed input
15:18:58	watusimoto	luadocs is nice, but needs to illustrate object hierarchy, and I'm not sure I'm up for adding that
15:19:19	raptor	yeah, you should be coding bitfighter instead!
15:21:38	raptor	xpilot build system is worse than ours!
15:22:10	raptor	compiled!
15:22:42	raptor	wow, almost entirely native libraries
15:22:51	raptor	no SDL/openAL
15:23:03	watusimoto	building is almost painless
15:23:06	watusimoto	for us
15:24:06	raptor	argh need instructions
15:25:23	raptor	aaaah
15:25:26	raptor	one shot kills
15:28:17	raptor	infinite maps
15:28:25	raptor	edge wrapping
15:29:00	raptor	relative controls - almost no drag
15:29:43	watusimoto	I think I played it once a while ago
15:29:52	watusimoto	didn't like it
15:30:01	watusimoto	but always happy to steal ideas
15:30:03	raptor	bitfighter actually looks well-polished in comparison
15:30:06	watusimoto	do they have heat seekers?
15:30:14	watusimoto	:-)
15:30:19	raptor	uhh, i couldn't figure out the weapons
15:30:36	raptor	but i say different hull types flying around
15:30:38	raptor	*saw
15:33:52	raptor	right before i exploded, usually
15:34:04	watusimoto	welll... it's possible:
15:34:04	watusimoto	http://7b5labs.com/xpilotiphone
15:34:55	raptor	wow
15:35:09	raptor	the project has been around long enough that people have written different styled clients
15:36:15	watusimoto	And then there is the "items map" where
15:36:15	watusimoto	the objective is simply to collect items to help you slaughter your
15:36:15	watusimoto	opponent while attempting to avoid getting shot. On these maps, your
15:36:15	watusimoto	ship can have various kinds of special weapons like mines, smart
15:36:15	watusimoto	missiles, heat seekers and so on.??
15:36:21	watusimoto	so yes
15:36:33	watusimoto	see if you can get one of those to work somehow
15:36:34	raptor	interesting
15:36:44	watusimoto	there seems to be about 500 keys
15:37:09	raptor	i'm not sure how to go to anything but a deathmatch map...
15:43:50	watusimoto	the level editor horribly sucks
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15:52:59	raptor	laerning curve is killing me
15:53:07	Little_Apple	helloo
15:53:31	Little_Apple	im not dead. sorry to dissapoint
15:53:46	raptor	oh wow, map editor is horrific
15:53:49	raptor	hi Little_Apple
15:54:03	Little_Apple	watcha doin?
15:54:15	raptor	taking a look at a game called 'xpilot'
15:54:23	raptor	it is similar to bitfighter, but much older
15:54:30	Little_Apple	hmmm
15:54:44	Little_Apple	ugh i hate this mouse.
15:56:24	Little_Apple	the site is???.
15:57:07	Little_Apple	no new releases since 2010...
15:58:22	Little_Apple	do you have to compile it??
15:58:27	raptor	yes
15:58:35	raptor	like i say, it's old school
15:58:46	Little_Apple	wow.
15:58:54	Little_Apple	THEY HAVE THEIR OWN IPHONE APP
15:59:00	Little_Apple	BITFIGHTER IS BEHIND IT
16:01:13	Little_Apple	do you have a code compiler for mac?
16:01:18	Little_Apple	xcode appears to be outdated.
16:04:39	Little_Apple	hello?
16:06:24	watusimoto	next platform is android, not iphone
16:06:26	watusimoto	sorry
16:07:30	Little_Apple	next next platform?
16:09:04	watusimoto	if we build for a device it will be android first
16:09:07	watusimoto	oh
16:09:10	watusimoto	sorry, who knows?
16:09:22	watusimoto	none of us has an iphone or wants to deal with apple
16:09:45	raptor	my wife was given a hand-me-down ipod touch recently
16:09:50	raptor	i never thought i could hate apple more
16:10:02	raptor	*strongly dislike
16:10:14	Little_Apple	lol
16:10:22	watusimoto	ha
16:10:33	watusimoto	can't be that bad!
16:10:41	Little_Apple	id kinda like to go back to lion and downgrade from mountain lion
16:10:50	raptor	i could not believe how hard it was to control your own device
16:10:57	Little_Apple	mountain lion messed a few things up
16:11:29	raptor	we set up some rules for it: no apple accounts, only internal LAN access, only used for books or music
16:12:00	Little_Apple	anyway
16:12:01	raptor	even after jailbreaking it, you still cannot copy files to it via USB unless you have a 'nanny' program
16:12:10	Little_Apple	do you have a code compiler that i could use?
16:12:10	watusimoto	wow
16:12:57	raptor	Little_Apple: you may have to isntall mac ports?
16:13:15	Little_Apple	?
16:13:28	Little_Apple	i mean a code compiler i could use for mac
16:13:35	Little_Apple	like xcode but not
16:13:39	raptor	errr - you'll probably have to have developer tools installed, and use the commandline Makefile
16:13:55	raptor	everything will be commandline if it isn't xcode
16:13:59	raptor	just forewarning
16:14:28	Little_Apple	i have the dev tools installed...
16:14:58	Little_Apple	the version of xcode i have is outdated tho. it wont work on mountain lion
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23:23:56	sam686	Fordcard have a right mouse button on mac bitfighter problems? http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1571
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23:27:28	raptor	hi
23:28:19	raptor	well that's no good
23:31:45	Watusimoto	hi
23:31:51	Watusimoto	I've solved the doc problem, mostly
23:31:55	raptor	oh yeah?
23:31:58	Watusimoto	yeah
23:32:06	Watusimoto	It's painful
23:32:09	Watusimoto	but it works
23:32:30	Watusimoto	I'm writing an elaborate perl program to parse our source and generaet a new set of fake source files that doxygen can read
23:33:20	raptor	sounds good to me..
23:33:28	raptor	painful just once, though right?
23:33:46	raptor	like we don't have to write /// @cond everywhere in the doc
23:35:26	Watusimoto	we do, but only once
23:35:37	Watusimoto	* @luafunc Teleporter::addDest(dest)
23:35:37	Watusimoto	* @brief Adds a destination to the teleporter
23:35:37	Watusimoto	* @param dest - A Point or coordinate pair representing the location of the destination
23:35:37	Watusimoto	*/
23:35:40	Watusimoto	for example
23:36:10	Watusimoto	oh wait, I see
23:36:15	Watusimoto	no @cond
23:36:23	Watusimoto	only comments where we want them
23:36:28	raptor	ok good
23:36:48	Watusimoto	here's one of my generated classes
23:36:49	Watusimoto	class Teleporter : BfObject {
23:36:49	Watusimoto	public:
23:36:49	Watusimoto	void addDest() { }
23:36:49	Watusimoto	void delDest() { }
23:36:50	Watusimoto	void clearDests() { }
23:36:52	Watusimoto	};
23:36:55	Watusimoto	that from teleporter.h
23:36:58	raptor	so once upon a time
23:37:05	Watusimoto	then there's lots of comments mixed in
23:37:22	raptor	i wrote a python script that grabbed all the Lua methods (by looking for the Lunar signature) and spit them out
23:37:24	raptor	here: https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/scripts/parse_lua_methods.py?repo=tools
23:37:38	Watusimoto	oh yes, I remember that
23:38:02	Watusimoto	when I check it in, have a look at my perl code and see if you can read it
23:38:07	raptor	ok
23:38:09	raptor	:)
23:38:32	raptor	do you do something similar with the perl? build up a list of methods that meat the Lua signature?
23:38:34	Watusimoto	alas theres lots of regexps which always make things complex looking
23:38:39	Watusimoto	no
23:38:47	raptor	*meet
23:38:48	Watusimoto	I look for REGISTER_LUA_SUBCLASS(Teleporter, BfObject);
23:39:00	raptor	close enough
23:39:04	Watusimoto	and
23:39:05	Watusimoto	#define LUA_METHODS(CLASS, METHOD) \
23:39:05	Watusimoto	METHOD(CLASS, addDest, ARRAYDEF({{ PT, END }}), 1 ) \
23:39:05	Watusimoto	METHOD(CLASS, delDest, ARRAYDEF({{ INT, END }}), 1 ) \
23:39:05	Watusimoto	METHOD(CLASS, clearDests, ARRAYDEF({{ END }}), 1 ) \
23:39:05	Watusimoto	GENERATE_LUA_METHODS_TABLE(Teleporter, LUA_METHODS);
23:39:10	Watusimoto	everything flows from there
23:39:29	Watusimoto	sort of
23:56:01	Watusimoto	I just checked things in; teleport.cpp is marked up with my proposed markup. It needs to be expanded, but I think it looks pretty good
23:56:15		raptor goes to look
23:56:40	Watusimoto	hope its there... tried new checkin method
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