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| 00:00:26 | Watusimoto | ugh... that checkin note pinged me |
| 00:00:36 | Watusimoto | need to change name to lowercase watusimoto! |
| 00:05:30 | raptor | ha! |
| 00:14:42 | | BFLogBot - Commit b921ce5b9ee0 | Author: watusimoto | Log: Add code sample and code support |
| 00:14:43 | | BFLogBot - Commit 9236ba28f503 | Author: watusimoto | Log: Why didn't this get committed before?!? |
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| 03:04:59 | | BFLogBot - Commit 45af6fc45f90 | Author: sam8641 | Log: Faster idle loop to each objects. |
| 03:20:02 | | BFLogBot - Commit 9f5176b1b37d | Author: sam8641 | Log: Changed the way Heat Seeker bounce off shield, which fixes heat seeker pushes ship. |
| 03:23:07 | sam686 | easy heatseeker test: add "W=Heat Seeker" (with quotes) at the end of Turret line. |
| 03:23:17 | raptor | hi |
| 03:23:21 | raptor | i test... |
| 03:27:18 | raptor | it's great! |
| 03:33:24 | raptor | be back later |
| 03:33:28 | sam686 | ok |
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| 04:15:08 | | BFLogBot - Commit 9d29b90673fa | Author: sam8641 | Log: Heat Seeker: Fixed angle after bounce from shield, and both HeatSeeker explode when hit each other quite hard. |
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| 04:33:31 | raptor | hi again |
| 04:33:39 | sam686 | I made changes that both heat seeker explodes instea of only one, and none of heatseeker explode if both HeatSeeker touch eachother when velosity is nearly the same. |
| 04:33:56 | raptor | let's test |
| 04:34:03 | sam686 | ok |
| 04:35:11 | | BFLogBot - Commit fae104b3fbdf | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix HeatSeeker so it now moves bouncy objects when HeatSeeker hit it. |
| 04:50:14 | | BFLogBot - Commit 13b8043fc4bd | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix Heat Seeker go through yourself after bouncing from other ship's shield |
| 05:00:31 | raptor | !bug |
| 05:00:31 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current running bug list: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List |
| 05:00:48 | raptor | is #20 fixed? |
| 05:02:02 | sam686 | i was gone for about 60 seconds, now back |
| 05:03:48 | sam686 | number 20. is the windows console problem (017b and earliear), which I probably have fixed (happens on release mode of windows build) |
| 05:03:59 | raptor | ok, i'll cross it off |
| 05:05:06 | sam686 | I basically made it console always subsystem, and added C++ code to check if started by console or not to hide console after graphics window displays |
| 05:05:37 | raptor | that's right |
| 05:06:12 | sam686 | this is a change I made: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=be834c14c5ddaf360192c6ebbf14c780a97f7c18 |
| 05:09:27 | raptor | neat |
| 05:10:37 | raptor | i shoudl update the Mac project and look at Fordcars mouse problem... |
| 05:16:57 | raptor | my kernel update broke vmware modules.. |
| 05:29:23 | raptor | well, it's bed time for me |
| 05:29:27 | raptor | good night! |
| 05:31:02 | sam686 | night |
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| 19:06:22 | raptor | so sam686 and I think heat seeker is pretty much done (we've made lots of improvements); and that all it needs are graphics now |
| 19:12:52 | Watusimoto | great |
| 19:13:09 | Watusimoto | there's a great reply to my stack overflow question... |
| 19:13:16 | raptor | looking |
| 19:13:22 | Watusimoto | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12388376/how-should-i-document-a-lua-api-object-model-written-in-c-code |
| 19:13:26 | Watusimoto | I'm going to accept it |
| 19:14:42 | raptor | oooo |
| 19:15:07 | Watusimoto | anyway, more work to do, but the docs look like they will work |
| 19:15:39 | Watusimoto | I figured out how to link to the inherited methods, one of my big issues |
| 19:15:47 | raptor | so i see the public member functions... is there supposed to be doc for those? |
| 19:15:56 | Watusimoto | click on that |
| 19:16:19 | Watusimoto | unless I misunderstand... |
| 19:16:23 | raptor | ah, i see it for teleporter |
| 19:16:29 | raptor | no - just incomplete |
| 19:16:32 | raptor | i found some |
| 19:16:52 | Watusimoto | I've written most of the docs, now just need to copy/paste them in place |
| 19:17:00 | Watusimoto | things will look much better when that's done |
| 19:17:05 | Watusimoto | * |
| 19:17:21 | raptor | wow, looks good! |
| 19:17:37 | Watusimoto | I'm happy enough |
| 19:17:56 | Watusimoto | if I can get the enums in there somehow (I think I can) and fix the missing arguments, we'll be set |
| 19:18:02 | Watusimoto | and it's maintainable |
| 19:18:20 | raptor | yay for that |
| 19:18:28 | Watusimoto | and I can get rid of the support code for spitting out the luadocs from the game |
| 19:18:34 | Watusimoto | so wins all around |
| 19:19:59 | raptor | you should say somewhere here that it is Lua documentation: http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/ |
| 19:20:21 | raptor | as opposed to just 'documentation' |
| 19:23:50 | Watusimoto | oh yes, tons of template stuff to work on |
| 19:49:12 | Watusimoto | any chance we |
| 19:49:23 | raptor | maybe |
| 19:49:23 | Watusimoto | 'll want to use doxygen for the regular bf source? |
| 19:49:38 | Watusimoto | some of the things I'm adding will potentially collide with standard usage |
| 19:49:59 | Watusimoto | I'm thinking not (aside from generating the class diagrams as you sometimes do) |
| 19:50:13 | raptor | yeah, that's all I use it for |
| 19:50:40 | raptor | http://bitfighter.org/~raptor/doxygen/current/ |
| 19:50:44 | raptor | just ran it again |
| 19:51:27 | Watusimoto | ok, I'll not worry about it for the moment... we can alawys go back and fix stuff where probelms occur |
| 19:52:23 | raptor | you can see how it shows up here: http://bitfighter.org/~raptor/doxygen/current/class_zap_1_1_teleporter.html |
| 19:59:40 | Watusimoto | yeah.... I don't think we'll be using it |
| 20:00:01 | Watusimoto | the enums alone were enough to kill it! |
| 20:36:56 | raptor | i duplicated the missing right-mouse button on Mac for 018 |
| 20:37:13 | raptor | not sure what do exactly yet - probably update SDL2 first |
| 20:56:20 | Watusimoto | probably the best bet |
| 20:56:48 | raptor | oh yay, the federal reserve will be printing more money to 'help' the economy |
| 20:57:04 | Watusimoto | sending you any? |
| 20:57:35 | raptor | i'm sending it money - in the form of an 'inflation tax' that it represents |
| 20:57:36 | Watusimoto | you'll thank them when mortgage rates hit 18% again |
| 20:58:10 | raptor | i suppose it does help with debt as much as it hurts savings |
| 20:58:34 | raptor | maybe |
| 20:59:07 | raptor | i kind of feel like those that give out loans already take into account any inflation anyways |
| 21:00:27 | Watusimoto | until it changes |
| 21:00:52 | Watusimoto | great when you have a 3% mortgage and inflation hits 15%.... if your salary keeps up |
| 21:02:14 | raptor | i'm still trying to figure out what to do with savings - i'm not a fan of wall street at the moment |
| 21:03:05 | Watusimoto | you have no other choice, really |
| 21:03:20 | raptor | i don't have much, but it's disappearing before my eyes (slowishly) |
| 21:03:26 | Watusimoto | bonds... very low yields, though they will likely be stable for a while |
| 21:03:55 | Watusimoto | stocks... some growth potential, but riskier (though a broad market index fund may be your best bet) |
| 21:04:09 | Watusimoto | real estate... probably the time to buy, but a hassle to own |
| 21:04:25 | Watusimoto | gold... at all time highs, hard to justify buying |
| 21:05:01 | Watusimoto | cds, bank account, etc.... at sub 1% returns, hardly worth it |
| 21:05:10 | raptor | yeah... i figure things that have income potential (or other real value), like real estate - but i don't have that much... maybe i could buy a bus stop |
| 21:05:19 | raptor | or a few trees |
| 21:05:24 | Watusimoto | you could buy shares in an REIT |
| 21:05:29 | raptor | what's that? |
| 21:05:44 | Watusimoto | like a mutual fund, but they own property |
| 21:05:53 | raptor | interesting... |
| 21:06:16 | raptor | intersestingly interesting |
| 21:06:45 | | BFLogBot - Commit 4d52f4a6c1a8 | Author: watusimoto | Log: A little cleanup, now works on all files instead of a selected few |
| 21:06:47 | | BFLogBot - Commit 1812c1a9bead | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove superfluous code in luadoc.pl... |
| 21:06:48 | | BFLogBot - Commit 2a6a727951a5 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Comments |
| 21:06:58 | Watusimoto | I know nothing about it, but VNQ looks to be a Vanguard REIT index |
| 21:07:00 | raptor | why haven't i heard of those before? |
| 21:07:29 | Watusimoto | Vanguard usually has really low management fees... and you definitely want to minimize those fees as much as possible |
| 21:07:54 | Watusimoto | VNQ looks to be an ETF, meaning you can buy it from your broker |
| 21:08:43 | Watusimoto | they've done pretty well this year |
| 21:09:14 | Watusimoto | looks like an index fund tracking some REIT index, so you get broad exposure to the real estate sector, not just to one particular REIT |
| 21:09:34 | raptor | i think i'll have to do some real research into those... because I'm interested in things with intrinsic value |
| 21:09:48 | Watusimoto | the index crashed big time in 2008 |
| 21:09:50 | raptor | the stock market isn't that way any more... |
| 21:10:01 | Watusimoto | lost > 50% of its value |
| 21:10:15 | raptor | wow |
| 21:10:22 | Watusimoto | since then looks like it has clawed back most of what it lost |
| 21:10:35 | Watusimoto | and it pays dividends! |
| 21:10:55 | raptor | yes |
| 21:11:17 | Watusimoto | though if you're not as rich as Romney, you'd be better off if they were plowed back in in order to raise the value, so you could get your gains as cap gains |
| 21:11:27 | raptor | they are required to pay out 90% of taxible income each year |
| 21:11:47 | Watusimoto | maybe I'll buy some |
| 21:12:39 | raptor | i wonder if we're header towards another real estate bubble |
| 21:12:51 | raptor | or maybe it's just inflation |
| 21:12:51 | Watusimoto | https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0986&FundIntExt=INT#hist=tab%3A3 |
| 21:12:55 | Watusimoto | reasonable fees as well |
| 21:13:58 | Watusimoto | I think the property market is pretty well adjusted. Still highly disfunctional, but doesn't feel bubblish |
| 21:14:12 | raptor | yeah, doesn't feel bubblish |
| 21:14:28 | Watusimoto | though we are certainly headed towards another bubble.... on some time horizon |
| 21:21:44 | raptor | i'll have to research and ponder |
| 22:54:50 | Watusimoto | let me know what you decide |
| 23:04:33 | raptor | sure |
| 23:04:39 | raptor | now to recompile SDL2 on Mac... |
| 23:09:17 | raptor | argh link errors |
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| 23:37:03 | | BFLogBot - Commit 5bc59daf172e | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove unused code |
| 23:37:05 | | BFLogBot - Commit a21fab351da8 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Improve docs some more -- parameters now properly shown |
| 23:38:03 | raptor | ah perl |
| 23:38:23 | raptor | the scripting language that everyone tries to reinvent |
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