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| 08:08:04 | BFLogBot | How many boards would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol hordes got bored? -- Calvin |
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| 08:13:26 | BFLogBot | Reality continues to ruin my life. -- Calvin |
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| 08:16:35 | BFLogBot | If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently. -- Calvin's dad |
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| 08:18:41 | BFLogBot | Some people are pragmatists, taking things as they come and making the best of the choices available. Some people are idealists, standing for principle and refusing to compromise. And some people just act on any whim that enters their heads. I pragmatically turn my whims into principles! -- Calvin |
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| 08:20:47 | BFLogBot | That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria! -- Calvin |
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| 08:22:53 | BFLogBot | From now on, I'll connect the dots my own way. -- Calvin |
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| 08:24:59 | BFLogBot | To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible. -- Calvin |
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| 08:27:05 | BFLogBot | I suppose the secret to happiness is learning to appreciate the moment. -- Calvin |
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| 08:29:11 | BFLogBot | The only skills I have patience to learn are those that have no real application in life. -- Calvin |
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| 08:31:17 | BFLogBot | My ethicator machine must've had a built-in moral compromise spectral release phantasmatron! I'm a genius! -- Calvin |
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| 08:33:23 | BFLogBot | Mom and dad say I should make my life an example of the principles I believe in. But every time I do, they tell me to stop it. -- Calvin |
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| 08:35:29 | BFLogBot | I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low. -- Calvin |
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| 08:37:35 | BFLogBot | The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it. -- Calvin |
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| 08:41:47 | BFLogBot | I have plenty of common sense, I just choose to ignore it. -- Calvin |
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| 08:43:53 | BFLogBot | Why should I have to work for everything? It's like saying that I don't deserve it. -- Calvin |
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| 08:48:05 | BFLogBot | Hobbes: Shouldn't we read the instructions? Calvin: Do I look like a sissy? |
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| 08:50:11 | BFLogBot | "The dynamics of inter-being and mono logical imperatives in Dick and Jane: A study in psychic transrelational gender modes". Academia, here I come. -- Calvin |
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| 08:52:17 | BFLogBot | Miss Wormwood: What state do you live in? Calvin: Denial. Miss Wormwood: I don't suppose I can argue with that... |
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| 08:54:23 | BFLogBot | The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it. -- Calvin |
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| 08:56:29 | BFLogBot | Hobbes: What would you call the creation of the universe? Calvin: The Horrendous Space Kablooie! |
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| 08:58:35 | BFLogBot | Golly, I'd hate to have a kid like me! -- Calvin |
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| 09:00:41 | BFLogBot | If something is so complicated that you can't explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not worth knowing anyway. -- Calvin |
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| 09:05:14 | BFLogBot | I'm a simple man with complex tastes. -- Calvin |
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| 09:07:20 | BFLogBot | My family is dysfunctional and my parents won't empower me. Consequently I'm not self actualized. -- Calvin |
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| 09:09:26 | BFLogBot | Calvin: Know what I pray for? Hobbes: What? Calvin: The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. |
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| 09:11:32 | BFLogBot | This is so cool I've to go to the bathroom. -- Calvin |
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| 09:13:38 | BFLogBot | Given that sooner or later we're all just going to die, what's the point of learning about integers? -- Calvin |
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| 09:15:44 | BFLogBot | It takes an uncommon mind to think of these things. -- Calvin |
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| 09:17:50 | BFLogBot | "The dynamics of inter-being and mono logical imperatives in Dick and Jane: A study in psychic transrelational gender modes". Academia, here I come. -- Calvin |
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| 09:22:02 | BFLogBot | Hobbes: How is the diorama coming along? Calvin: I'm almost finished. Hobbes: I don't see the roadrunner. Weren't you going to put one in? Calvin: See the cotton balls I glued down? Hobbes: Yeah? Calvin: The roadrunner just ran out of the scene leaving behind clouds of dust! |
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| 09:24:08 | BFLogBot | All this modern technology just makes people try to do everything at once. -- Hobbes |
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| 09:28:20 | BFLogBot | Calvin: Can you make a living playing silly games? His Dad: Actually, you can be among the most overpaid people on the planet. |
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| 09:30:26 | BFLogBot | Golly, I'd hate to have a kid like me! -- Calvin |
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| 11:15:56 | raptor | SDL2 just added thread-local storage |
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| 11:50:10 | raptor | DDOS yay! |
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| 11:57:00 | thread_ | question for developers: what version of lua are levelgens running? |
| 11:57:11 | raptor | hi |
| 11:57:12 | raptor | 5.1 |
| 11:57:30 | thread_ | great! That means I can do crazy things >.< |
| 11:57:33 | raptor | heh |
| 11:58:02 | raptor | be forewarned - even though some of the library functions are not sandboxxed right now... they will be in 019 |
| 11:58:39 | thread_ | but I can, say, use require to pull in 5.1 libraries? |
| 11:58:51 | raptor | yes |
| 11:59:17 | raptor | also you can add whatever libraries you want as long as they're in the 'scripts' directory (I think) |
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| 11:59:50 | thread_ | also, is there any way in 019 to make a wall after the level is loaded? |
| 11:59:52 | thread_ | I mean even a rectagular moveObject would be useful |
| 12:00:00 | thread_ | but currently I can't do anything |
| 12:00:25 | raptor | not a wall exactly - but I think bobdaduck has some code that makes zones impossible to penetrate |
| 12:01:02 | thread_ | thats nice... but... if I were to move that zone over a player, that might do some wacky stuff |
| 12:01:03 | raptor | 019 will not have actual wall items added yet, either - there are many technical issues with walls and levelgens that need to be solved first |
| 12:01:06 | bobdaduck | ship:setVel(-shipVel) |
| 12:01:55 | thread_ | anyway, crazyness is ensuing over here. be wary of my next levelgen |
| 12:02:05 | raptor | actually |
| 12:02:16 | raptor | I think 'require' might not work in 019... |
| 12:02:18 | bobdaduck | I'm making another masterpiece level |
| 12:02:30 | raptor | because that is obviously unsafe... |
| 12:02:31 | thread_ | noooooo!!! let me use require |
| 12:02:43 | raptor | but there's a secret way to get around it.. |
| 12:02:47 | bobdaduck | I'll work on collab after that |
| 12:02:52 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 12:02:52 | thread_ | oh |
| 12:02:56 | thread_ | ? |
| 12:02:57 | raptor | you can add it to the 'lua_helper_functions.lua' |
| 12:03:02 | raptor | in the scripts folder |
| 12:03:11 | thread_ | put my require in there? |
| 12:03:15 | raptor | because that is loaded without the sandbox restrictions... but you didn't hear it from me :) |
| 12:03:30 | bobdaduck | I couldn't get require to work when I tried. Admittedly I spent less than five minutes looking at it |
| 12:04:01 | raptor | admittedly, I don't know if adding it in that file will let you access the libraries or not still - I haven't used require much |
| 12:04:19 | thread_ | THIS SOUNDS LIKE A JOB FOR SCIENCE |
| 12:07:32 | bobdaduck | LUNCHTIEM |
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| 13:50:35 | raptor | 3 ChumpChange are online! |
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| 14:26:50 | raptor | we have like 100 MB more RAM on the master server after converting BFLogBot to python |
| 14:26:50 | BFLogBot | Calvin: Who can fathom the feminine mind? Hobbes: I like 'em anyway. |
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| 14:33:28 | raptor | hey Watusimoto_ I hear your prime minister is resigning? |
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| 14:35:29 | Watusimoto | do you know why? |
| 14:35:55 | raptor | failure to stop abuse of power? |
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| 14:36:43 | Watusimoto | sort of, maybe |
| 14:36:50 | Watusimoto | the scandal has the BEST name! |
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| 15:18:33 | BFLogBot | That's the problem with science. You've got a bunch of empiricists trying to describe things of unimaginable wonder. -- Calvin |
| 15:18:33 | BFLogBot | I don't need to compromise my principles, because they don't have the slightest bearing on what happens to me anyway. -- Calvin |
| 15:23:06 | Watusimoto | that last one is great ^^^ |
| 15:24:04 | raptor | :) |
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| 15:35:15 | bobdaduck | BFLogBot: tell me your wisdom |
| 15:35:15 | BFLogBot | Sometimes one should just look at things and think about things without doing things. -- Calvin |
| 15:35:29 | bobdaduck | Thanks! |
| 15:45:02 | Skybax | :{D |
| 15:55:40 | raptor | I'm reading about the Bosnian war... man, no wonder the media couldn't explain what was going on... |
| 16:02:36 | bobdaduck | why? |
| 16:03:19 | raptor | because there weren't 2 sides, there were at least 3 major ones with one of them switching aliances at least twice |
| 16:04:04 | Watusimoto | complex and brutal |
| 16:04:43 | raptor | very, very brutal.. |
| 16:05:35 | raptor | everytime I read about a way like this, I feel I've been lied to in my primary education about there being good guys and bad guys... |
| 16:05:39 | raptor | *about a war |
| 16:06:12 | Watusimoto | those are other wars. In ours, we are always the good guys. |
| 16:07:30 | Watusimoto | but also what wars did you study? many of ours have (seemed) rather clearcut, and time has erased much of the ambiguity... Reveolutionary War, WWII, etc. |
| 16:07:57 | Watusimoto | (ignore civil war, viet nam, and most of our wars in the 80's and beyond) |
| 16:08:21 | Watusimoto | and WWI was pretty much a cluster f**** |
| 16:08:56 | raptor | I felt I was taught well on WW1 and WW2 |
| 16:08:59 | Watusimoto | and don't listen to those who disparage the British firebombing of Dresden and other civillain centers |
| 16:09:11 | Watusimoto | or the nuke attack on Japan |
| 16:09:34 | raptor | yeah, I don't follow those types.. |
| 16:10:00 | raptor | but yes, on WW1 my teach, I felt, had accurately portrayed the point that there wasn't a good or bad in that war |
| 16:10:04 | raptor | *teacher |
| 16:10:12 | Watusimoto | that's good |
| 16:10:34 | raptor | but ones I struggle with are any war since WW2 |
| 16:10:35 | Watusimoto | mostly just an inevitable slide towards disaster |
| 16:10:58 | Watusimoto | Grenada! |
| 16:11:31 | raptor | I am ignorant of that one... |
| 16:11:36 | raptor | how do I not know that one? |
| 16:12:12 | raptor | interesting - it lasted 3 weeks |
| 16:12:25 | raptor | I was never, ever taught about that one, not even in college |
| 16:12:56 | raptor | unless it was a 1-liner somewhere |
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| 16:15:04 | raptor | interesting, so a US marine barracks was attacked (effectively poking the bear) |
| 16:17:28 | Watusimoto | I think the marine baracks attack was in beirut, and thus only related temporally |
| 16:17:45 | raptor | oh wait, yes, you're right... |
| 16:17:45 | Watusimoto | surely you remember that one... |
| 16:17:54 | raptor | i would have been 2 years old |
| 16:18:04 | raptor | when it happened |
| 16:18:08 | Watusimoto | ah, ok, it was pretty major |
| 16:20:42 | Skybax | I don't think there's ever anything "good" about war haha |
| 16:44:33 | Watusimoto | I think that's somewhat a matter of perspective, but I generally agree |
| 16:45:11 | raptor | I think there can be a just war, but it would have to meet some pretty strict requirements (what those may be, I'm still not sure) |
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| 17:11:44 | Skybax | I think that in every war, each side things they're in the right, so how can any of them be just |
| 17:12:48 | raptor | if you're fighting a defensive war because opponents wish commit genocide against you, and you've done nothing to provoke them, i think that might be close to being a just war |
| 17:13:06 | raptor | but granted taht is a very broad example |
| 17:13:09 | raptor | *that |
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| 17:16:20 | raptor | but I'm woefully ignorant in such things.. |
| 17:22:53 | raptor | ok, well, let me switch from the heavy topic |
| 17:26:14 | Watusimoto_ | all I was alluding to, in my much earlier comment was that some people profit personally from war -- from their perspective it can be pretty good in that sense. It wasn't a comment on morality. |
| 17:26:37 | raptor | heh |
| 17:26:47 | raptor | very true... |
| 17:27:11 | Watusimoto_ | btw, I left the hearts in the goal zones, and I'm looking at my 018 level, which has lots of goals... and it looks terrible |
| 17:27:30 | raptor | like a level for valentines day? |
| 17:29:23 | Watusimoto_ | not even |
| 17:36:05 | raptor | I'm thinking the 'thickness' of the symbols seem a little out of place.. |
| 17:44:34 | Watusimoto_ | it is |
| 17:44:42 | Watusimoto_ | so... my checkin for the night |
| 17:44:46 | Watusimoto_ | things got out of hand |
| 17:44:49 | raptor | uh oh |
| 17:45:04 | Watusimoto_ | and what started out as a simple edit to the instructions page became rather large |
| 17:45:11 | raptor | should I be worried? |
| 17:45:14 | Watusimoto_ | no |
| 17:45:22 | raptor | ooo instructions - no one reads those anyways :) |
| 17:45:41 | Watusimoto_ | at one point, every key got remapped to the diagnostics screen |
| 17:45:53 | Watusimoto_ | that was puzzling |
| 17:46:00 | Watusimoto_ | even mouse clicks loaded diagnostics |
| 17:46:06 | raptor | haha |
| 17:46:45 | Watusimoto_ | do you know the story of shakleton and his adventures in the antarctic? |
| 17:47:34 | raptor | mmm... maybe - sounds familiar |
| 17:47:57 | Watusimoto_ | it might sound more familliar when you read my checkin comment |
| 17:48:06 | Watusimoto_ | ... wherever that is ... |
| 17:48:16 | Watusimoto_ | our bot has become lazy |
| 17:48:26 | raptor | BFLogBot: |
| 17:48:27 | BFLogBot | I like to say "quark"! Quark, quark, quark, quark! -- Hobbes |
| 17:48:34 | raptor | hmmm |
| 17:49:05 | raptor | i don't think it'll make it into the channel - unless Google Code hasn't POSTed it to the web hook yet... |
| 17:49:18 | Watusimoto_ | no worries |
| 17:49:25 | Watusimoto_ | anyway... going to bed |
| 17:49:52 | raptor | night! |
| 17:50:17 | raptor | oh, haha, commit message was too long - i think it killed the whole POST |
| 17:50:54 | raptor | in fact - I think I read a book about that journey |
| 17:52:06 | Watusimoto_ | probably the same one I did |
| 17:53:26 | raptor | wow there's a lot in this commit... |
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| 18:23:27 | bobdaduck | quick |
| 18:23:29 | bobdaduck | teach me how to use git |
| 18:23:40 | raptor | THERE IS NO QUICK WAY |
| 18:24:44 | raptor | i'd start here: https://help.github.com/ |
| 18:24:56 | raptor | oh and get tissues for when the tears appear |
| 18:25:16 | raptor | (painful tears, not happy ones) |
| 18:26:10 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 18:26:54 | bobdaduck | I'M NOT AFRAID |
| 18:27:18 | raptor | so git is similar in functino to mercurial, and if you have a good client, it can hide some of the scary stuff for you |
| 18:27:21 | raptor | *function |
| 18:27:44 | bobdaduck | is similar to tortoise HG? |
| 18:27:49 | raptor | uhhh |
| 18:27:54 | raptor | you are on windows? |
| 18:28:03 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 18:28:37 | raptor | then i'd just use github's client - but i'm not sure if it'll allow to connect to other repos |
| 18:28:47 | raptor | it's different than tortoise |
| 18:29:07 | raptor | so now i'm curious, what do you want it for? |
| 18:29:28 | bobdaduck | This thing that I'm programming I'm doing right now |
| 18:29:36 | bobdaduck | And we're going to use git apparently |
| 18:29:41 | raptor | ah yes |
| 18:29:52 | raptor | that's because since everyone says git is cool, then git is cool |
| 18:30:00 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 18:30:23 | raptor | but yeah - if you're on windows, then i'd use this: http://github-windows.s3.amazonaws.com/GitHubSetup.exe |
| 18:31:30 | raptor | ok, back in an hour or two... |
| 18:31:35 | bobdaduck | ok |
| 18:31:49 | raptor | and uhh... with git, don't look under the hood |
| 18:31:58 | bobdaduck | lol |
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| 19:52:03 | fordcars | later guys, gtg |
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| 20:32:16 | raptor | good evening |
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| 20:43:16 | raptor | ok, i know why i'm confused... python stack traces seem backwards to java stack traces... |
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| 22:17:08 | Skybax | Merple! |
| 22:17:43 | raptor | hello to you too! |
| 22:18:35 | Skybax | I interviewed for a job today |
| 22:19:14 | raptor | how'd it go? |
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| 22:22:49 | Skybax | I think it went good |
| 22:22:58 | Skybax | the HR lady is gonna let me know if I have a job next week |
| 22:23:09 | Skybax | I applied to be a Wrapper |
| 22:23:12 | raptor | teaching position? |
| 22:23:16 | raptor | a Wrapper? |
| 22:23:20 | Skybax | A meat wrapper |
| 22:23:38 | Skybax | I wish it was a teaching position xD |
| 22:23:42 | raptor | in a deli? |
| 22:23:47 | Skybax | At Fred Meyer |
| 22:23:50 | raptor | or slaughterhouse? |
| 22:23:52 | raptor | ah ok |
| 22:24:19 | Skybax | But if I don't get that then there's also a Service Deli position and a Parcel position open |
| 22:24:28 | Skybax | So my chances of being hired are pretty high, I think |
| 22:24:32 | raptor | oh good |
| 22:24:51 | Skybax | Meat Wrapper has the best hours, tho |
| 22:25:14 | Skybax | Parcel can stick you with nightshifts >.< |
| 22:25:46 | raptor | night shifts make me feel stupid in the head after a while... |
| 22:35:20 | Skybax | Night shifts are badness |
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| 23:45:21 | fordcars | Wow, I have an awesome idea |
| 23:45:28 | raptor | hello |
| 23:46:23 | fordcars | javascript Bitfighter :p But with html5 or something, there could be sprites |
| 23:46:29 | fordcars | hi |
| 23:46:49 | raptor | well |
| 23:47:26 | raptor | we already have a plan to convert it to JS + WEBGL using emscripten: https://github.com/kripken/emscripten/wiki |
| 23:47:30 | raptor | some day.. |
| 23:47:45 | fordcars | seriously? nice! |
| 23:47:56 | raptor | it'll still be a while, but it's doable.. |
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| 23:52:14 | fordcars2 | JavaScript looks really nice actually |
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