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| 09:52:15 | bobdaduck | goodmorning gentlemen |
| 09:52:28 | Skybax | goodmorning |
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| 09:57:38 | raptor | howdy folks |
| 10:08:44 | raptor | brb |
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| 10:11:53 | bobdaduck | nooooo |
| 10:15:29 | Skybax | ? |
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| 10:19:07 | Skybax | I wanna learn more things |
| 10:21:39 | bobdaduck | okay |
| 10:21:41 | bobdaduck | what do you wanna learn |
| 10:21:58 | Skybax | I'm learning Switches |
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| 10:27:04 | Skybax | They have been learned |
| 10:27:32 | Skybax | I HAZ LERND DEM |
| 10:29:08 | Skybax | Now I'm learning ternary operators |
| 10:30:37 | bobdaduck | lol |
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| 10:30:42 | bobdaduck | Whatever that is |
| 10:31:03 | bobdaduck | I probably know all about it but I never bothered to actually learn terms for things |
| 10:31:04 | Skybax | An easier way to do if/else statements |
| 10:31:13 | bobdaduck | ITS ALL TECHNICAL AND STUFF FOR NO REASON. |
| 10:31:17 | Skybax | In only one line of code |
| 10:31:43 | Skybax | condition ? result1 : result2; |
| 10:31:48 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 10:32:53 | kaen | (condition and result1) or result2 |
| 10:32:54 | kaen | in lua |
| 10:33:00 | Skybax | Coolness |
| 10:33:13 | Skybax | What ever happened to Furbuggy? |
| 10:35:00 | bobdaduck | Uh |
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| 10:35:09 | bobdaduck | he disappeared like four years ago dude |
| 10:35:17 | Skybax | I know but where did he go |
| 10:35:21 | bobdaduck | you're just wondering NOW? |
| 10:35:21 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 10:35:24 | bobdaduck | Dunno |
| 10:35:25 | Skybax | I saw him on Skype about a month ago |
| 10:35:30 | bobdaduck | Just faded away like so many people. |
| 10:35:38 | Skybax | He was teaching my brother Lua at one point |
| 10:36:08 | Skybax | We should all spam him and tell him to come make more bots |
| 10:36:15 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 10:36:21 | bobdaduck | He never made any bots? |
| 10:36:32 | Skybax | I think he did |
| 10:36:40 | Skybax | That's what he was teaching my brother how to do xD |
| 10:37:04 | Skybax | My brother made an OrbitBot that shoots bad guys cause of it |
| 10:37:23 | Skybax | Maybe Fur just never posted anything |
| 10:38:19 | bobdaduck | Oh, yep here he's asking a question about bot programming |
| 10:38:21 | bobdaduck | guess he did do some |
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| 10:38:51 | Skybax | He should come back |
| 10:39:45 | raptor | i did! |
| 10:40:18 | Skybax | Yay |
| 10:41:36 | Skybax | I'm crackin out my Skype lol |
| 10:42:55 | Skybax | Ben Veaner... why does that name sound familiar |
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| 10:44:21 | Skybax | His chat history has him sending me bots lol |
| 10:45:08 | bobdaduck | Not familiar to me |
| 10:45:44 | raptor | group5Ubuntu is back... |
| 10:46:44 | raptor | Clemson, South Carolina? |
| 10:47:11 | bobdaduck | group5Ubuntu |
| 10:48:22 | Skybax | What |
| 10:57:20 | watusimoto | good morning all |
| 10:57:24 | raptor | hi watusimoto |
| 10:57:33 | watusimoto | you know grou5Ubuntu? |
| 10:57:43 | raptor | nope, but they keep showing up... |
| 10:58:05 | raptor | with a server and several users: group5WinXP, group5Linux, etc... |
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| 10:58:20 | watusimoto | I walked a guy from ctct through the process of installing BF on an ubuntu machine... I think it was him |
| 10:58:35 | watusimoto | sorry tctc |
| 10:58:40 | watusimoto | or something |
| 10:58:43 | raptor | tctc? |
| 10:58:56 | watusimoto | Three County Technical College ??? |
| 10:59:00 | watusimoto | in S.C. |
| 10:59:18 | raptor | tri-county |
| 10:59:25 | Skybax | lol |
| 10:59:28 | watusimoto | yes, there are three of them :-) |
| 10:59:31 | Skybax | Three County |
| 10:59:32 | raptor | cool - we need more schools! |
| 10:59:41 | watusimoto | I think it was for a classroom assignment |
| 10:59:52 | watusimoto | we had some technical issues |
| 10:59:56 | raptor | oooo... bitfighter as part of a curriculum! |
| 11:00:08 | watusimoto | I asked specifially about that, never got an answer |
| 11:00:31 | Skybax | I know some schools used Minecraft in their cirriculum lol |
| 11:00:43 | watusimoto | but I don't think he knows how to run in dedicated mode, which is why his user acct is permanently parked |
| 11:00:49 | raptor | ah |
| 11:01:13 | watusimoto | and standalone mode didn't seem to work |
| 11:01:26 | watusimoto | so we had to copy the resources to /root/.bitfighter |
| 11:01:32 | raptor | what |
| 11:01:36 | watusimoto | did that make you wince? |
| 11:02:01 | raptor | bad root bad |
| 11:02:02 | watusimoto | I don't know if he ended up with 018 or 018a |
| 11:02:09 | watusimoto | I told him 3 times not to do it |
| 11:02:15 | watusimoto | c'est la vie |
| 11:02:18 | raptor | haha |
| 11:02:36 | watusimoto | told him how to not do it |
| 11:02:40 | raptor | we run a server on the master server... |
| 11:02:46 | watusimoto | and yet... I somehow think he did it |
| 11:02:49 | raptor | heh |
| 11:03:05 | watusimoto | yes, we do |
| 11:03:10 | raptor | well... maybe we can get bitfighter into more curriculii |
| 11:03:18 | watusimoto | did we have standalone.txt in 018? |
| 11:03:21 | raptor | (curriculums)? |
| 11:03:22 | watusimoto | or was that an addon for 018a |
| 11:03:22 | raptor | yes |
| 11:03:26 | raptor | oh |
| 11:03:28 | raptor | uh |
| 11:03:32 | watusimoto | ok, then I don't know what the problem was |
| 11:03:33 | raptor | i think 018a |
| 11:03:36 | watusimoto | oh |
| 11:03:44 | raptor | we had several standalone bugs in 018 |
| 11:03:47 | raptor | but it was 'there' |
| 11:03:49 | watusimoto | so if he built 018, that might be why it didn't work |
| 11:04:05 | watusimoto | we have ubuntu instructions for 018, and centos for 018a |
| 11:04:09 | watusimoto | it created some confusion |
| 11:04:13 | raptor | yuk |
| 11:04:17 | raptor | were those updated? |
| 11:04:23 | watusimoto | he was running ubuntu, and followed the centos instructions |
| 11:04:24 | watusimoto | no |
| 11:04:35 | watusimoto | I wanted to discuss how we structure them |
| 11:04:45 | raptor | the instructions? |
| 11:04:50 | watusimoto | because the ubuntu is for regular build, centos for dedicated |
| 11:04:55 | watusimoto | and this seemed to confuse him |
| 11:05:07 | watusimoto | he wanted dedicated, so he followed the centos instructions, which did not work |
| 11:05:11 | raptor | I'm thinking we give basic instructions for compiling from source for any distro, using generic package names... |
| 11:05:20 | watusimoto | I think so too |
| 11:05:30 | watusimoto | it is, after all, mostly the same |
| 11:05:40 | raptor | yep |
| 11:05:47 | Skybax | You should make an interactive lua tut lol |
| 11:08:55 | Skybax | Built in to Bitfighter xD |
| 11:09:38 | watusimoto | gotta run!! |
| 11:10:22 | raptor | later |
| 11:13:03 | Skybax | I think that sounds like a great idea |
| 11:13:16 | raptor | !release |
| 11:13:16 | BFLogBot | To release, follow the checklist: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_checklist |
| 11:13:23 | raptor | ok good.. |
| 11:13:41 | raptor | BFLogBot: tell me your wisdom to remove the dullness that Monday morning brings... |
| 11:13:41 | BFLogBot | I liked things better when I didn't understand them. -- Calvin |
| 11:13:57 | Skybax | Hahaha |
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| 11:39:11 | Skybax | Hey raptor, you should fill out this forum and tell them to add Lua https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1x9feONelB0kRvkGO17k1t1I7zdCPIuFrHQ8n_xgcGto/viewform |
| 11:46:57 | raptor | done |
| 11:46:59 | raptor | :) |
| 11:47:56 | Skybax | Cools ^_^ |
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| 11:54:26 | raptor | !build |
| 11:54:33 | raptor | ok, I updated: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Bitfighter |
| 11:56:06 | Skybax | !makeTacos |
| 11:57:18 | raptor | mmmm tacos |
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| 12:30:51 | Skybax | Erg. I'm stuck on this lesson |
| 12:31:07 | raptor | Watusimoto: updated: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Bitfighter |
| 12:31:08 | Skybax | I keep getting a result of false lol |
| 12:33:06 | Skybax | What am I doing wrong http://pastie.org/8143346 |
| 12:35:14 | raptor | javascript. |
| 12:35:32 | raptor | what is supposed to happen? |
| 12:36:02 | bobdaduck | how are you getting "false" when you aren't using any bolean variables or if statements? |
| 12:36:05 | raptor | you're not returning your result anywhere? |
| 12:36:30 | Skybax | It's supposed to give me a number |
| 12:36:43 | raptor | also there's no 'result' being used outside of the switch statement |
| 12:36:55 | Skybax | No, I'm calling the function |
| 12:37:03 | raptor | i know you are |
| 12:37:19 | raptor | but *in* the function and *outside* the switch statement, 'result' is no where to be found |
| 12:37:28 | Skybax | Okay |
| 12:38:11 | raptor | is 'result' supposed to be used somehow? |
| 12:38:28 | Skybax | It didn't tell me to |
| 12:38:32 | Skybax | It just said to use a switch |
| 12:38:48 | Skybax | And the example of switches that I have uses result |
| 12:38:51 | raptor | maybe it's expecting you to go above and beyond the instructions... |
| 12:39:04 | bobdaduck | can you link me to the actual lesson? |
| 12:39:09 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 12:39:10 | Skybax | http://www.codecademy.com/courses/calculating-the-costs-of-running-a-business/0/6?curriculum_id=4f4b35445cb288000300000c# |
| 12:40:04 | raptor | you're not doing the last part: "return the apropriate value. " |
| 12:40:42 | bobdaduck | I put "return result;" in there and still getting an error but I didn't look at it real closely yet |
| 12:41:00 | raptor | that's because 'result' is local to inside the switch |
| 12:41:02 | Skybax | I thought the switch was returning the values |
| 12:41:13 | raptor | you have to move it outside the switch, then change it inside |
| 12:41:18 | Skybax | xD |
| 12:41:43 | bobdaduck | nah that's not it |
| 12:43:47 | bobdaduck | for reference: You're not getting a result of "false" |
| 12:43:56 | bobdaduck | you're getting a result of " " |
| 12:44:01 | Skybax | Yeah |
| 12:44:05 | bobdaduck | and then the lesson is arbitrarily saying "false" |
| 12:44:10 | Skybax | Right xD |
| 12:44:37 | raptor | ha |
| 12:44:39 | raptor | got the soluton |
| 12:44:54 | raptor | so, the goal is to get your total costs |
| 12:44:59 | Skybax | Yes |
| 12:45:00 | raptor | you need to 'return' something |
| 12:45:21 | bobdaduck | oh no |
| 12:45:26 | bobdaduck | no no no no no |
| 12:45:33 | raptor | so what is total costs - variable + fixed + rent |
| 12:45:48 | bobdaduck | NO WAY |
| 12:45:51 | bobdaduck | IT WORKED. |
| 12:45:52 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 12:45:52 | Skybax | Yes |
| 12:45:52 | raptor | you need to return that, but use a switch statement to dynamically change the rent |
| 12:46:15 | bobdaduck | The lesson doesn't say to do that.. |
| 12:46:22 | raptor | it implies that |
| 12:46:34 | Watusimoto | hi again |
| 12:46:39 | raptor | "Use the function to calculate the costs" |
| 12:46:45 | raptor | implies everything |
| 12:46:47 | raptor | hi Watusimoto |
| 12:46:49 | Watusimoto | looking at the build instructions |
| 12:47:04 | bobdaduck | Did you get it skybax? |
| 12:47:10 | Skybax | No xD |
| 12:47:30 | Watusimoto | "You must install these and their development headers using your distribution's preferred method" |
| 12:47:39 | Watusimoto | do you mean apt-get or yum? |
| 12:47:56 | bobdaduck | kay so just after the statement, return the total cost |
| 12:47:58 | raptor | or zypper |
| 12:48:02 | raptor | or ... ... etc... |
| 12:48:17 | raptor | or RPM or deb |
| 12:48:24 | raptor | or tar |
| 12:48:27 | raptor | whatever |
| 12:48:34 | bobdaduck | The total cost being all the variables together, yah? |
| 12:49:51 | Skybax | I don't understand what I'm supposed to put in the parentheses |
| 12:54:24 | Watusimoto | I made a change to the instructions, adding some specifics -- does that look right? |
| 12:54:34 | bobdaduck | what parentheses? |
| 12:54:34 | raptor | looking.. |
| 12:54:53 | Skybax | After the return |
| 12:54:58 | Watusimoto | oops formatting bad |
| 12:55:02 | Skybax | return( ) |
| 12:55:09 | Skybax | IDK WHAT TO DO |
| 12:55:09 | bobdaduck | oh. |
| 12:55:21 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 12:55:28 | bobdaduck | Return the total number of everything! |
| 12:55:30 | raptor | Watusimoto: those commands to install will not work |
| 12:55:47 | Watusimoto | why not? |
| 12:55:47 | raptor | they are missing several -dev or -devel packages needed |
| 12:56:04 | Watusimoto | how would I know which are needed? |
| 12:56:06 | raptor | like libopenal-dev or openal-soft-devel |
| 12:56:08 | raptor | exactly! |
| 12:56:15 | raptor | that's why I didn't provide them |
| 12:56:25 | Watusimoto | so... how would I know? |
| 12:56:29 | raptor | but said 'install development headers, and here's an example' |
| 12:56:32 | Skybax | How xD |
| 12:56:37 | raptor | it's different for every distro |
| 12:56:38 | Watusimoto | yes, you said that |
| 12:56:43 | Skybax | return(everything) |
| 12:56:45 | Skybax | xD |
| 12:56:50 | bobdaduck | yes |
| 12:56:53 | bobdaduck | now what is everything? |
| 12:57:04 | Skybax | idk how to express the switch as a variable |
| 12:57:17 | bobdaduck | you already have result |
| 12:57:18 | Watusimoto | raptor: switching to pfivate channel |
| 12:57:19 | bobdaduck | just use that |
| 12:57:51 | Skybax | Ah |
| 12:57:59 | Skybax | That worked lol |
| 12:58:11 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 12:58:20 | bobdaduck | instructions aren't worded very well |
| 12:58:23 | Skybax | Nope |
| 13:00:22 | Skybax | Finished that unit! Hooray! |
| 13:01:16 | Skybax | Wow bobdaduck, you're totally killin on the PHP course lol |
| 13:01:27 | bobdaduck | I am? |
| 13:01:37 | Skybax | Chyeah. 56% lol |
| 13:01:54 | Skybax | Although it's not very big xD |
| 13:02:19 | Skybax | imma go clean the pool and when I get back imma make a Blackjack game |
| 13:02:20 | bobdaduck | eh |
| 13:02:53 | bobdaduck | cool |
| 13:03:26 | bobdaduck | I dunno I already know most of it |
| 13:03:29 | bobdaduck | just new syntax |
| 13:03:34 | bobdaduck | and remembering to put ; at the end of everything |
| 13:10:24 | raptor | 'snake wrangling for kids' is hilarious |
| 13:11:06 | bobdaduck | is that similar to telephone pole chucking? |
| 13:11:08 | Skybax | I always put a ; at the end of everything, even the things I'm not supposed to put an ; at the end of |
| 13:11:31 | Skybax | And then I have to go back and delete them |
| 13:11:53 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 13:12:00 | bobdaduck | lua doesn't use ; so I get lazy |
| 13:12:07 | raptor | bobdaduck: http://code.google.com/p/swfk/downloads/list?can=1 |
| 13:14:50 | bobdaduck | when I get home. |
| 13:19:32 | bobdaduck | nope, reading it now actually |
| 13:19:39 | raptor | :) |
| 13:21:58 | bobdaduck | lol this. |
| 13:22:31 | Watusimoto | raptor: sorry for the flood over there!!! |
| 13:22:56 | raptor | heh, no problem |
| 13:23:02 | raptor | it posted fast... |
| 13:43:44 | Skybax | How do I use the Math.random( ) thing? |
| 13:43:51 | Skybax | It only does numbers between 0 and 1 |
| 13:44:02 | raptor | in what language? |
| 13:44:04 | raptor | Lua? |
| 13:44:06 | Skybax | What if I want it to do between 0 and 10 and use only whole numbers |
| 13:44:11 | Skybax | No, JavaScript |
| 13:44:25 | raptor | good question... |
| 13:44:29 | raptor | I'm not sure |
| 13:44:39 | raptor | http://stackoverflow.com is your frient |
| 13:44:42 | raptor | *friend |
| 13:45:01 | Skybax | How would you do it in Lua? |
| 13:45:25 | raptor | I actually made a helper function to do that - I think bobdaduck posted it to the forums? |
| 13:47:21 | raptor | here it is but not with whole numbers: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19997#p19997 |
| 13:48:15 | Skybax | Hahaha "because math.random() is stupid" |
| 13:49:33 | kaen | Skybax: math.floor(math.random() * 10) |
| 13:49:39 | kaen | er, Math |
| 13:49:54 | Skybax | That's JavaScript or Lua? |
| 13:50:08 | kaen | Math for js, math for lua |
| 13:50:10 | kaen | I think |
| 13:50:13 | Skybax | Okay |
| 13:50:30 | kaen | oh, just js |
| 13:50:40 | kaen | lua has a special function for normalized floats I think |
| 13:50:53 | Skybax | Well I have this http://pastie.org/8143546 and the first number is always a giant decimal, but then the second number is always whole |
| 13:50:58 | kaen | oh wait |
| 13:51:11 | kaen | math.random() in lua is normalized float |
| 13:51:27 | Skybax | Oh wait.. the second number is always 2 lol |
| 13:51:35 | kaen | probably need to seed |
| 13:51:52 | Skybax | And the first number is not confined to 1-10 |
| 13:52:01 | Skybax | I have no idea why it's doing this xD |
| 13:52:26 | kaen | "<Skybax> And the first number is not confined to 1-10" |
| 13:52:33 | kaen | I see no reason for that to be the case |
| 13:53:11 | kaen | unless you mean it's not a whole number |
| 13:53:12 | Skybax | Well the lesson said that Math.random() by itself only does 0-1.. so I figured 0-1 * 10 would make it 0-10 |
| 13:53:21 | kaen | that should be the case. |
| 13:53:34 | Skybax | But then it does like 16.164354654654 and 2 |
| 13:53:58 | kaen | that should absolutely not happen |
| 13:54:03 | Skybax | I know! |
| 13:54:24 | Skybax | It says I passed the lesson but the code I'm getting back from it makes no sense |
| 13:54:27 | kaen | well, remember that you're returning the sum of the two values |
| 13:55:04 | kaen | I have to insist that you're misinterpreting something, because the code you posted will always get a number between 0 and 10 |
| 13:55:17 | kaen | (for score1 and score2) |
| 13:55:19 | Skybax | It should only give me one number |
| 13:55:57 | kaen | It does afact... |
| 13:56:04 | kaen | as far as I can tell* |
| 13:56:12 | Skybax | So now I understand why it's sometimes 16 or something, but then the 2 after it makes no sense |
| 13:56:22 | Skybax | http://www.codecademy.com/courses/blackjack-part-1/0/3?curriculum_id=4f4b35445cb288000300000c# go here and put in the code I gave you |
| 13:58:50 | bobdaduck | wait what |
| 13:58:58 | kaen | ok |
| 13:59:02 | kaen | the "2" after it |
| 13:59:10 | kaen | appears to be the number of times you call math.random() |
| 13:59:18 | kaen | try adding a third call and watch it change |
| 13:59:26 | kaen | so the first number is the return value |
| 13:59:33 | kaen | the second is the number of math.random() calls |
| 13:59:45 | Skybax | Huh |
| 13:59:53 | kaen | which is some codecademy magic just for the purposes of that lesson |
| 14:00:02 | Skybax | Interesting xD |
| 14:00:35 | bobdaduck | shadowxloner is online |
| 14:00:44 | Skybax | Go blow him up |
| 14:00:50 | raptor | does that mean i have to play? |
| 14:00:59 | bobdaduck | nah |
| 14:01:03 | bobdaduck | foot and LA are there too |
| 14:02:32 | Skybax | I think Bitfighter should be tied into this IRC channel, and raptor could type !nuke or something and cause everyone playing anywhere in Bitfighter to explode and get the death message "[Player] was nuked by a GM!" |
| 14:03:00 | Skybax | That would amuse me greatly |
| 14:03:12 | bobdaduck | I HAVE THAT IN LEVELGEN CARNIVAL |
| 14:03:42 | Skybax | I know you have a nuke powerup |
| 14:03:53 | Skybax | But I think it should affect everyone in every single server |
| 14:03:57 | Skybax | Even test servers lol |
| 14:06:44 | bobdaduck | We can't really do that because of the way servers interact with the master server |
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| 14:09:15 | Skybax | Darn xD |
| 14:13:22 | raptor | we want server owners to be 'sovereign' |
| 14:13:43 | raptor | and not have some other higher power be able to command some part |
| 14:14:48 | Skybax | Game Master is above Server Creator |
| 14:14:49 | Skybax | lol |
| 14:15:53 | bobdaduck | Yeah but we don't have that. |
| 14:16:19 | Skybax | Yeah but it would be amusing if we did xD |
| 14:16:20 | raptor | it would be a good way to discourage people setting up servers! |
| 14:16:24 | Skybax | Hahaha |
| 14:16:27 | Skybax | I'd still do it |
| 14:16:37 | Skybax | Set up a server, that is |
| 14:17:10 | bobdaduck | even if I can come in, anytime I want, and just spontaniously interrupt your game? |
| 14:17:17 | bobdaduck | Change levels on you just when you're getting into it? |
| 14:17:27 | bobdaduck | Spontaniously shut down the server because I feel like it? |
| 14:17:45 | Skybax | I was thinking just the nuke |
| 14:17:56 | Skybax | Cause it's trolly but not really harmful |
| 14:18:05 | Skybax | Unless you have like 87 flags in Nexus |
| 14:18:06 | Skybax | Then you |
| 14:18:06 | Skybax | d |
| 14:18:13 | Skybax | *you'd rage |
| 14:18:37 | bobdaduck | That's a lot of work for a practical joke |
| 14:18:45 | bobdaduck | That really wouldn't be funny after the first time |
| 14:19:10 | Skybax | I'd laugh at it every time xD |
| 14:20:07 | bobdaduck | you missed my DnD party |
| 14:20:23 | bobdaduck | where Little Apple had enough money to buy 20 nukes |
| 14:20:30 | bobdaduck | and just sat there killing everyone over and over again |
| 14:20:36 | bobdaduck | for ten minutes |
| 14:20:50 | bobdaduck | and nobody could move or do anything |
| 14:21:27 | bobdaduck | it was *not* fun |
| 14:23:39 | bobdaduck | So... Tried that, and it wasn't a good idea. so. xD |
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| 14:29:30 | Skybax | Hahaha xD |
| 14:29:46 | Skybax | Well I don't think raptor would spam everyone like LA |
| 14:30:16 | | raptor doesn't trust raptor's restraint |
| 14:31:14 | Skybax | Hahaha xD |
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| 14:45:02 | Skybax | I just told a girl with a speech impediment that she sounds weird |
| 14:45:30 | raptor | well.. at least you're helping her on the way to developing thicker skin... |
| 14:47:05 | Skybax | Congratulations on finding the silver lining |
| 14:47:31 | raptor | thanks! |
| 14:50:09 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 14:58:40 | Skybax | She said she doesn't wanna sound weird and I told her she can't argue with nature |
| 14:59:53 | raptor | let's just say I argue with nature every time i kill the hornets nests in my backyard |
| 15:00:14 | Skybax | We just call the Bee Man and he comes and takes them all away for free lol |
| 15:00:37 | Skybax | With a vacuum |
| 15:00:38 | raptor | my brother had a speech impediment - after years and years of practice/work, he talks normal now |
| 15:00:57 | bobdaduck | the brother who has my name or another? |
| 15:01:02 | raptor | same name |
| 15:01:11 | bobdaduck | cool |
| 15:01:11 | Skybax | You have a brother who's name is duck? |
| 15:01:28 | raptor | heh |
| 15:01:46 | Skybax | Rad |
| 15:02:13 | bobdaduck | its pretty sweet |
| 15:02:16 | raptor | he's known as 'Pedestrian' |
| 15:02:24 | raptor | in bitfighter |
| 15:02:35 | Skybax | Coolness lol |
| 15:03:12 | Skybax | I loooove JavaScript... even though I hate math... It's just cool |
| 15:03:15 | raptor | i should say... he talks as 'normal' as a slightly socially inept electrical engineer does |
| 15:03:29 | Skybax | I also like how Codecadamy makes everything mutlicolored ._. that sells it for me |
| 15:03:31 | raptor | but he's more socially adept than I am, so... |
| 15:03:58 | raptor | the syntax coloring? that helps a lot with programming |
| 15:03:58 | Skybax | Is he an electrical engineer? |
| 15:04:02 | Skybax | Yes |
| 15:04:11 | raptor | yes, he is |
| 15:04:18 | Skybax | Sweetness |
| 15:04:18 | raptor | and maybe, one day, me too! |
| 15:04:57 | Skybax | When I was learning C++, the Visual Deluxe or whatever program I was using was coloring everything too, and that's when I fell in love with code lol |
| 15:05:16 | raptor | the arts-y side of coding... |
| 15:05:38 | Skybax | Code is definitely an art form |
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| 15:07:13 | Skybax | If I'm gonna start coding for real and not just in the lessons, I'm gonna have to download a program that colors it for me |
| 15:07:29 | raptor | not to worry - almost all programs do that nowadays |
| 15:07:58 | Skybax | But not TextEdit haha |
| 15:08:00 | bobdaduck | I did most of my first levelgens in notepad... |
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| 15:08:52 | raptor | textedit is almost as bad as notepad |
| 15:09:03 | raptor | notepad++ on the other hand... |
| 15:09:14 | Skybax | Text edit at least looks like typewriter code font lol |
| 15:09:22 | raptor | also, if you want to see code art; i give you... PERL!: http://www.cpan.org/misc/japh |
| 15:10:02 | Skybax | What |
| 15:10:31 | raptor | PERL is another language (debatable) that is *extremely* maniputable |
| 15:10:43 | Skybax | I like ASCII |
| 15:11:09 | bobdaduck | also, if you want to see art code; I give you... PIET!: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html |
| 15:11:18 | raptor | that link has many, many different ways to just print out the text "Just another Perl Hacker" |
| 15:11:29 | raptor | all are valid programs |
| 15:11:36 | bobdaduck | http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet/samples.html |
| 15:11:53 | raptor | NO, we will NOT use PIET to create levelgens.... |
| 15:11:58 | Skybax | Hahaha xD |
| 15:12:13 | Skybax | http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.codeproject.com/KB/web-image/ASCIIArt/ASCIIArt2.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10949/ASCII-Art-Generator&h=529&w=636&sz=20&tbnid=DcqATpuroCe3CM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=108&zoom=1&usg=__2lTDhUtVRGBEDqTjWyJAg4HZxLU=&docid=W18Srs_EgVwGaM&sa=X&ei=d2XkUZuDBsL5igK4goGgCA&ved=0CEYQ9QEwAg&dur=828#imgdii=DcqATpuroCe3CM%3A%3Bk58V7HdETWq9XM%3BDcqATpuroCe3CM%3A |
| 15:12:35 | raptor | yes, but we're not talkign about ascii art |
| 15:12:42 | raptor | we talking about *actual* programs that run |
| 15:12:43 | bobdaduck | We're talking about piet! |
| 15:13:31 | Skybax | So basically it has no definite structure whatsoever and so you can arrange whatever code you want to run in whatever pattern you deem to be artistic |
| 15:13:48 | raptor | i'd say that pretty well sums up the PERL coding language... |
| 15:13:57 | Skybax | Neato |
| 15:13:58 | raptor | ok, i'm joking |
| 15:14:06 | raptor | there is actual structure |
| 15:14:35 | raptor | and everything means something - it's just that PERL has so many ways of doing things that you can created these nifty programs |
| 15:14:49 | Skybax | Looks like what I'd see if I ripped open a box of kernel and threw it at a cyber fan |
| 15:15:00 | bobdaduck | Piet! |
| 15:15:56 | Skybax | Or put a keyboard in a blender |
| 15:17:09 | raptor | yes, well, it's important to pay homage to our predecessor languages.... |
| 15:17:21 | Skybax | Like BASIC? |
| 15:17:54 | raptor | heh, sure! I loved that old gorillas game |
| 15:18:10 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4e085b0fd904 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Maybe fabs will compile? |
| 15:18:36 | raptor | oh duh... thanks Watusimoto_! |
| 15:19:02 | Watusimoto_ | I think your fix could introduce some (probably trivial) bugs |
| 15:19:21 | raptor | yeah probably |
| 15:19:31 | Watusimoto_ | no worries though |
| 15:19:41 | raptor | i was obviously not thinking... |
| 15:19:48 | raptor | (thanks for the code review!) |
| 15:19:51 | Watusimoto_ | it happens!! |
| 15:22:46 | Skybax | To get a random playing card you do Math.floor(Math.random()*52+1); |
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| 15:26:07 | Skybax | Whole number between and including 1-52 |
| 15:26:34 | raptor | seems about right |
| 15:27:21 | Skybax | Hoorah! I haz learning |
| 15:34:47 | raptor | back later |
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| 15:40:39 | bobdaduck | Someone wrote a piet interpretter using perl |
| 15:41:20 | Skybax | lol cool |
| 15:41:28 | Skybax | Are you makin levels? |
| 15:42:24 | bobdaduck | Yes? |
| 15:42:30 | bobdaduck | I'm always makin levels. |
| 15:44:11 | Skybax | Otay |
| 15:44:21 | Skybax | I was just wonderin cause I saw you were online but then you weren't in any servers lol |
| 15:46:29 | Skybax | What does it mean when sometimes it says I passed and then randomly says I failed ._. |
| 15:49:12 | Skybax | Nvm I think I figured it out |
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| 16:31:54 | Watusimoto | heading to bed |
| 16:32:02 | | BFLogBot Commit: 87f46f64a19b | Author: watusimoto | Message: Editor file selection menu -- not really sure where this should go... this is just a sketch of an idea, but it kind of ran out of steam... does it give you any ideas? |
| 16:32:03 | Watusimoto | I'm uninspired |
| 16:32:09 | Watusimoto | I think my commit comment says it all |
| 16:34:59 | bobdaduck | I'll take a look at it when I get home |
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| 17:53:18 | raptor | haha watusimoto's commit... |
| 17:54:43 | raptor | interesting... |
| 17:56:31 | raptor | if anyone cares: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/screenshot_31.png |
| 18:15:18 | raptor | 11 contest levels! |
| 18:16:43 | Skybax | Yay |
| 18:17:13 | Skybax | cft3? |
| 18:17:32 | raptor | the change is in the background |
| 18:18:34 | Skybax | Ahhh |
| 18:18:39 | Skybax | Coolness lol |
| 18:18:59 | Skybax | It looks like it kinda scrolls as you type lol |
| 18:19:07 | raptor | it does |
| 18:19:24 | Skybax | Neato bandito |
| 18:36:57 | | BFLogBot Commit: 7ba0062a46c8 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: My take on watusimoto's level entry screen. What do you think? |
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| 22:49:03 | raptor | singletons vs statics! |
| 22:49:08 | raptor | it all makes sense now... |
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