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| 09:22:05 | raptor | SDL2 is released! |
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| 11:30:57 | bobdaduck | I'm gonna run for president of bitfighter |
| 11:31:20 | bobdaduck | I'll be "The common bip's president" |
| 11:31:26 | raptor | the next question is then: what *is* bitfighter? |
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| 14:21:08 | bobdaduck | what *is* bitfighter? |
| 14:21:37 | raptor | yes |
| 14:21:51 | raptor | you say you wish to be president of bitfighter |
| 14:22:03 | raptor | then it follows that 'bitfighter' must be defined as something.. |
| 14:22:20 | raptor | kaen: would you support bitfighter moving to wordpress? |
| 14:22:36 | kaen | I wouldn't fight it |
| 14:22:49 | kaen | what's the motivation? |
| 14:22:58 | kaen | also, I will support bob's candidacy on the condition that I am appointed as "kaen, Lord Chancellor of the Exchequer" |
| 14:23:06 | raptor | haha |
| 14:23:22 | kaen | which is a purely titular position with no real duties and a handsome salary |
| 14:23:26 | raptor | motivation is: we're running drupal 6 and cannot upgrade without significant work |
| 14:23:34 | kaen | ok |
| 14:23:47 | raptor | so i figure why not go to a platform that is more upgrade-friendly |
| 14:24:56 | kaen | yeah, that makes sense |
| 14:25:01 | kaen | maybe we can update the css :P |
| 14:25:12 | bobdaduck | I'll tell you what |
| 14:25:18 | bobdaduck | I'll pay you as much as the president gets paid |
| 14:25:24 | bobdaduck | !kaen |
| 14:25:24 | BFLogBot | Stats guru and SQL extraordinaire |
| 14:25:30 | kaen | double it and it's a deal. |
| 14:25:37 | bobdaduck | alright |
| 14:25:59 | kaen | I always knew this bitfighter gig would work out for me :P |
| 14:26:04 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 14:26:32 | kaen | time to call mom and tell I'm a cabinet member of an imaginary government of a 2d space game |
| 14:26:51 | bobdaduck | rofl |
| 14:28:12 | bobdaduck | Raptor may give my campaign a run for its money though |
| 14:28:19 | bobdaduck | footloose already said she'd vote for him |
| 14:29:26 | raptor | I'd rather control things from the shadows... |
| 14:30:09 | bobdaduck | So you're a lobbiest? |
| 14:30:20 | raptor | nah... those are still too public |
| 14:31:28 | bobdaduck | SHUT UP AND GIVE ME MONEY |
| 14:35:57 | bobdaduck | I'll improve life for all bitfighter ships (bips) everywhere! |
| 14:36:01 | bobdaduck | I'll bring them suns! |
| 14:36:19 | bobdaduck | better mapmaking environments! |
| 14:36:31 | bobdaduck | free soda from the vending machines! |
| 15:03:38 | raptor | kaen: http://bitfighter.org/bitpress/ |
| 15:11:55 | kaen | groovy! |
| 15:12:13 | raptor | so feel free to do anything you want |
| 15:12:20 | raptor | sent you credentials in a PM.. |
| 15:12:28 | kaen | sweet :) |
| 15:12:58 | kaen | so the goal is to ultimately to import all of the header links and static content to wordpress, right? |
| 15:13:04 | kaen | and then style it, of course |
| 15:18:25 | bobdaduck | this is what? |
| 15:19:26 | kaen | switching bitfighter's cms |
| 15:19:40 | kaen | to something that has better upgrade support |
| 15:20:13 | raptor | the goal is to do anything we want |
| 15:20:30 | raptor | i figure we at least need the widget for players/servers... |
| 15:20:46 | kaen | okay! |
| 15:20:48 | | kaen bounces |
| 15:20:49 | raptor | i don't want to be constrained by anything old |
| 15:21:05 | kaen | I know unwritten javascript code when I heart it ;) |
| 15:21:08 | kaen | hear it |
| 15:21:14 | kaen | read it* |
| 15:21:15 | raptor | hahaha |
| 15:22:11 | kaen | so, first tasks will be at least providing all the links |
| 15:22:29 | kaen | and that widget :) |
| 15:22:34 | raptor | sure! |
| 15:23:09 | raptor | i figure it can reside under /bitpress/ for now, then we can move it '/' when we have it somewhat good |
| 15:23:10 | kaen | I think I'd like to have a little dev blog |
| 15:23:21 | kaen | yes, good plan |
| 15:23:42 | raptor | yes, sure - we can do lots with this, i think |
| 15:23:49 | kaen | definitely a good call |
| 15:24:04 | kaen | so, the stylesheet ... |
| 15:24:08 | kaen | or theme, rather |
| 15:24:10 | raptor | heh |
| 15:24:24 | kaen | how much updating if any do we want to do? |
| 15:24:27 | raptor | we could continue with stars, but update it to be fancy? |
| 15:24:33 | raptor | update anything! |
| 15:24:41 | raptor | blank cheque! |
| 15:24:48 | kaen | awesome! |
| 15:25:10 | kaen | maybe we should find a solid dark-sh theme and try grafting the bitfighter chrome onto it |
| 15:25:13 | raptor | we've needed to move away from drupal 6 for at least a year, but I don't know why I hadn't considered wordpress before.. |
| 15:25:20 | kaen | stars/BITFIGHTER/maybe a ship or two |
| 15:25:32 | kaen | honestly I wouldn't have thought of it |
| 15:25:36 | kaen | but it's easy as cake |
| 15:25:46 | kaen | and definitely has all the features we need |
| 15:26:00 | raptor | yep |
| 15:26:04 | raptor | and... cake! |
| 15:26:19 | raptor | drupal was like the dessert that you kept burning |
| 15:26:30 | kaen | hehe |
| 15:29:48 | bobdaduck | Desert? |
| 15:30:30 | kaen | found while searching for dark wordpress themes: http://wordpress.org/themes/raptor |
| 15:30:41 | raptor | hahaha |
| 15:34:33 | raptor | we could use a better background... like this: http://wiki.starsautohost.org/wikinew/skins/stars/Bkgstar.gif |
| 15:34:49 | raptor | feels less 90s... |
| 15:34:59 | kaen | a ... better background!? |
| 15:35:16 | raptor | i don't know... the sky's the limit! |
| 15:35:22 | raptor | err... the universe! |
| 15:36:00 | kaen | I really like that one |
| 15:36:05 | kaen | the one you posted |
| 15:36:19 | raptor | me too, i ripped it off of the Stars! wiki |
| 15:42:03 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 15:47:17 | kaen | http://www.somerandomdude.com/work/frank/ |
| 15:47:24 | kaen | this an open source theme |
| 15:47:33 | kaen | solid markup, light css |
| 15:47:53 | kaen | I could convert it to dark and easily put some bitfighter-ness into it |
| 15:47:59 | raptor | looks nice! |
| 15:48:03 | raptor | i like the simplicity |
| 15:48:48 | kaen | wow! |
| 15:48:51 | kaen | it's using scss |
| 15:49:02 | kaen | this will be cake |
| 15:49:09 | raptor | go for it |
| 15:50:36 | raptor | must... stop... looking... at Stars! information... |
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| 16:42:04 | kaen | the world is a crazy place |
| 16:42:10 | kaen | wordpress themes have build processes now |
| 16:42:18 | raptor | whoa, really? |
| 16:42:39 | kaen | I need nodejs, ruby, grunt, compass, csscss, and some other junk |
| 16:43:11 | kaen | it does stuff like minify and combine the files |
| 16:43:29 | kaen | this theme really is fast and light |
| 16:43:39 | raptor | WOW |
| 16:43:52 | raptor | grunt? |
| 16:43:56 | kaen | yep |
| 16:44:10 | kaen | I think it's like java's ant |
| 16:44:24 | raptor | http://gruntjs.com/ |
| 16:44:29 | raptor | lovely first impression |
| 16:44:39 | kaen | hahaha |
| 16:44:47 | kaen | personally I prefer jake |
| 16:45:03 | kaen | I guess grunt has all those plugins though |
| 17:13:05 | raptor | man, menus are so much easier in this... |
| 17:19:08 | raptor | heading home! |
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| 21:12:39 | raptor | hello |
| 21:12:46 | raptor | kaen: how is that theme coming? |
| 21:12:58 | raptor | I started building the main menu a bit.. |
| 21:14:11 | raptor | hi watusimoto |
| 21:17:35 | raptor | watusimoto: I started a wordpress site intended to replace our drupal 6: http://bitfighter.org/bitpress/ |
| 21:17:56 | raptor | wordpress is much more update friendly and easier to configure |
| 21:18:12 | watusimoto | hi |
| 21:18:21 | watusimoto | ok |
| 21:18:26 | watusimoto | I'll take a look |
| 21:18:26 | raptor | and i figure that at least as much work would be needed to convert to drupal 7+ than just moving to wordpress afresh |
| 21:18:32 | raptor | let me get you an account |
| 21:19:03 | watusimoto | it looks beautiful! |
| 21:19:15 | raptor | heh |
| 21:19:31 | watusimoto | I did a lot of customizing on that drupal site, so hopefully it will be less painful with wordpress |
| 21:19:55 | raptor | so far everything i've done (which has been little..) has been easier |
| 21:20:18 | raptor | kaen found a really good theme |
| 21:20:27 | raptor | but we'll have to customize it a little |
| 21:20:35 | raptor | but so far everything has been easier |
| 21:20:38 | raptor | even installing it |
| 21:23:19 | watusimoto | I don't doubt it! |
| 21:23:35 | raptor | I PM'd you credentials (if you didn't see) |
| 21:24:00 | raptor | also, I thought this would make a good new background: http://wiki.starsautohost.org/wikinew/skins/stars/Bkgstar.gif |
| 21:24:45 | raptor | in fact, i'm thinking about changing the forums one to that right now just to see... |
| 21:29:12 | watusimoto | I see the credentials... wrestling with hg at the moment |
| 21:29:28 | raptor | too much?: http://bitfighter.org/ |
| 21:31:11 | raptor | maybe no one wiill notice.. |
| 21:32:37 | watusimoto | that's a nice starry background, but those aren't the bitfighter stars! |
| 21:32:54 | raptor | too true... |
| 21:33:40 | watusimoto | logged in |
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| 21:39:32 | watusimoto | I hope that all went right |
| 21:39:38 | raptor | i'll take a look.. |
| 21:39:40 | watusimoto | hg command line only |
| 21:39:47 | raptor | you leveled up! |
| 21:39:51 | watusimoto | :-) |
| 21:39:53 | watusimoto | it |
| 21:39:57 | watusimoto | it's faster |
| 21:40:08 | watusimoto | interestingly,I only use git from the command line |
| 21:40:25 | watusimoto | so this should be no harder |
| 21:41:07 | raptor | yeah, and in fact, it's much, much easier than git (i've found) |
| 21:41:22 | raptor | git uses about 1.5 - 2 times as many commands |
| 21:41:39 | watusimoto | I don't like git |
| 21:41:49 | raptor | oh and appending --help to a command actually tells you understandable information |
| 21:42:03 | watusimoto | so why create a new star background? dislike the one we've got? |
| 21:42:43 | raptor | just because with wordpress, everything is new! |
| 21:42:50 | raptor | also |
| 21:42:55 | raptor | I changed the stars again |
| 21:43:02 | raptor | this time they were *real* bitfighter stars |
| 21:43:16 | raptor | the old one looked like bitfighter stars scaled * 2 |
| 21:43:31 | raptor | I like these new ones even better, i think |
| 21:43:36 | raptor | the new, new ones.. |
| 21:44:15 | watusimoto | the way I created the old one was in photoshop with the random noise feature, then dialing up (or down??) the contrast until only a few dots still appeared |
| 21:44:28 | watusimoto | I tried to reproduce a few years ago and could not |
| 21:44:40 | raptor | I created these new ones by taking an ingame screenshot, |
| 21:44:50 | watusimoto | so there may have been more to the process than what I just wrote |
| 21:44:50 | raptor | using GIMP to crop until I had a 300x400 section |
| 21:44:56 | raptor | and done |
| 21:44:58 | watusimoto | great! |
| 21:45:16 | watusimoto | sounds easier and purer |
| 21:45:23 | raptor | what do you think? |
| 21:45:27 | raptor | i mean, how do they look? |
| 21:47:04 | watusimoto | I don't see them anywhere |
| 21:47:15 | raptor | it might be heavily cached in your browser |
| 22:14:33 | raptor | oh, watusimoto, I made a change to our SDL usage - you should be able to switch in/out of fullscreen without significant delay now |
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| 22:22:35 | watusimoto | that would be really awesome! |
| 22:22:57 | watusimoto | can we get rid of fake full screen? |
| 22:22:59 | raptor | also SDL2 was released today! |
| 22:23:05 | raptor | I already did :) |
| 22:23:11 | watusimoto | better! |
| 22:29:07 | watusimoto | I did see that sdl is officially out |
| 22:29:40 | watusimoto | better no doubt because of your bug reports |
| 22:30:49 | | BFLogBot Commit: 0bd08b6ce0fe | Author: watusimoto | Message: One more setting bites the dust |
| 22:30:54 | watusimoto | alrght... time for bed |
| 22:30:57 | watusimoto | early day tomorrow |
| 22:31:08 | raptor | night! |
| 22:31:17 | watusimoto | I'm optimistic about word press... good job! |
| 22:31:21 | watusimoto | hasta manana |
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| 23:01:05 | raptor | oh man, flallinginn slsdddioeep |
| 23:01:11 | raptor | godngnight21! |
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