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| 00:04:03 | fordcars | I have to manually update Bitfighter :O |
| 00:08:24 | Skybax_ | :O |
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| 00:17:36 | fordcars | Alright, I managed to make 1.5gb on my Raspberry Pi! Food Time, later :) |
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| 00:17:55 | Skybax | :D |
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| 02:27:14 | Skybax | Hey Nothing_Much, you get Starbound yet? :D |
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| 02:27:43 | Nothing_Much | Skybax: heck yes |
| 02:27:50 | Nothing_Much | Thanx to my bro yo |
| 02:27:53 | Skybax | Yay |
| 02:27:59 | Skybax | Wanna see if we can play together? |
| 02:29:10 | Nothing_Much | Skybax: Sure, what'e your Steam? |
| 02:29:23 | Skybax | TheSkybax |
| 02:30:23 | Nothing_Much | Is that profile pic you? |
| 02:31:14 | Skybax | Yes |
| 02:31:50 | Nothing_Much | neato |
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| 02:34:10 | Skybax | Although I'm pretty sure Starbound can't invite through Steam |
| 02:35:12 | Nothing_Much | unsure |
| 02:35:14 | Nothing_Much | but oh well |
| 02:38:03 | Skybax | You'll need to connect to my Hamachi network |
| 02:39:41 | Skybax | To simulate LAN |
| 02:40:06 | Skybax | The network is "Calvin's Starbound Server" and the password is "password" |
| 02:41:43 | Nothing_Much | oh god hamachi |
| 02:41:45 | Nothing_Much | uh..\ |
| 02:41:47 | Nothing_Much | I don't think I can |
| 02:41:49 | Nothing_Much | Linux here |
| 02:42:01 | Nothing_Much | Do you know how to port forward though? |
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| 02:44:05 | Skybax | I can't port forward my parent's network, don't have the password to the router |
| 02:44:17 | Skybax | Does Hamachi not support Linux? |
| 02:50:18 | Nothing_Much | it's a CLI |
| 02:50:30 | Skybax | CLI? |
| 02:50:30 | Nothing_Much | so Yes and no |
| 02:50:34 | Nothing_Much | Command Line Interface |
| 02:50:55 | raptor | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/haguichi-a-graphical-frontend-for-hamachi-on-linux.html |
| 02:51:13 | raptor | oops wrong link |
| 02:51:17 | raptor | http://www.haguichi.net/download/ |
| 02:52:50 | Skybax | x) |
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| 02:56:19 | Nothing_Much | oh sweet thanx vs73nx |
| 02:56:27 | vs73nx | ? |
| 02:56:37 | Nothing_Much | oh oops |
| 02:56:39 | Nothing_Much | my bad |
| 02:56:41 | Nothing_Much | thanks raptor |
| 02:56:42 | vs73nx | thats ok |
| 02:56:48 | Nothing_Much | I'm going blind! |
| 02:57:18 | Skybax | The server is up. Hopefully it works |
| 02:57:24 | Skybax | I've had problems with it in the past |
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| 03:57:46 | raptor | even though it's extra work, i like having little releases like this that really improve stability |
| 04:00:34 | kaen | seriously screen recording software for linux is terrible |
| 04:00:44 | raptor | it's horrible!! |
| 04:00:49 | raptor | drives me nuts |
| 04:00:50 | kaen | just awful |
| 04:00:56 | kaen | blows my mind. |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | every few months I check out the situation again |
| 04:01:20 | kaen | I'm trying this right now, which appears not to suck: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/ |
| 04:01:28 | kaen | but I'm not getting my hopes up. |
| 04:01:37 | raptor | and it's still wacky fragmenteed, plagued by anti-codec furor, and super crashy |
| 04:01:46 | kaen | yep |
| 04:01:55 | kaen | I have had every one of those problems today :P |
| 04:02:04 | kaen | and heaven help you if you're trying to import it into a video editor |
| 04:02:07 | kaen | all bets are off. |
| 04:02:11 | raptor | haha |
| 04:02:15 | raptor | too true |
| 04:02:26 | raptor | although I have had good luck with avidemux-qt |
| 04:03:42 | Nothing_Much | kaen: dude I've been using that |
| 04:03:42 | kaen | whoa |
| 04:03:44 | Nothing_Much | and it's pretty neat |
| 04:03:52 | kaen | I just read about how SSR does opengl captue |
| 04:03:55 | kaen | capture |
| 04:04:04 | kaen | it injects a library to hook the gl calls! |
| 04:04:16 | kaen | I thought it would just pump the render buffer. |
| 04:04:26 | Nothing_Much | it's like GLC sorta |
| 04:04:33 | raptor | really? |
| 04:04:34 | Nothing_Much | kaen: did you try glc before? |
| 04:04:40 | raptor | i've never tried that one |
| 04:04:52 | raptor | let me see if i can find a package for my distro.. |
| 04:05:04 | Nothing_Much | raptor: I think that guy has a repo for opensuse |
| 04:05:23 | Nothing_Much | if not then try the fedora packages maybe? |
| 04:06:59 | raptor | got it! |
| 04:07:14 | Nothing_Much | kaen: you've used fraps on windows before right? |
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| 04:07:56 | fordcars_pi | Gahh can I get help partiionning my disk for Debian? |
| 04:08:24 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: on your sd card? |
| 04:08:24 | raptor | fordcars_pi: welcome to insanity! |
| 04:08:25 | fordcars_pi | Well, I already have a nice partition, but in the Debian installer, it asks me to partition my disk again |
| 04:08:30 | fordcars_pi | Hehe |
| 04:08:37 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, on my Laptop :O |
| 04:08:54 | Nothing_Much | oh nice dude |
| 04:08:55 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 04:09:02 | Nothing_Much | asks you to partition again? |
| 04:09:10 | fordcars_pi | Yeah, well I think so |
| 04:09:14 | fordcars_pi | RAID, LVM etc |
| 04:09:36 | Nothing_Much | it shouldn't be prompting you again if you've already done it |
| 04:09:38 | Nothing_Much | once |
| 04:09:43 | fordcars_pi | Or "Guided", but that is only for the whole drive it seems (I don't want that) |
| 04:09:47 | fordcars_pi | I didn't officially |
| 04:09:52 | raptor | our downloads page is somewhat horrible |
| 04:09:54 | fordcars_pi | I did it in Windows |
| 04:10:11 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 04:10:12 | Nothing_Much | dude |
| 04:10:18 | fordcars_pi | I only spliut my drive in half: One for Windows and one for Debian |
| 04:10:21 | Nothing_Much | windows can't partition linux filesystems xD |
| 04:10:24 | fordcars_pi | *split |
| 04:10:27 | fordcars_pi | Yeah I know :P |
| 04:10:36 | Nothing_Much | you gotta make the filesystem is what it's asking you dude |
| 04:10:41 | fordcars_pi | But my partition show up in "Manual Partition" |
| 04:11:07 | Nothing_Much | what you have to do is mark which partition you want to be root or "/" |
| 04:11:11 | fordcars_pi | But, I can't see it's name, so either I get the write or the wrong partition |
| 04:11:12 | raptor | but way to do it is to boot this: http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage |
| 04:11:20 | raptor | startx |
| 04:11:23 | raptor | then run gparted |
| 04:12:21 | fordcars_pi | Actually, I don't think I need that |
| 04:12:40 | fordcars_pi | My partition shows up fine in Manual Partition in the Installer |
| 04:12:48 | fordcars_pi | But, the rest is gibberish |
| 04:13:04 | fordcars_pi | Oh maybe not actually |
| 04:13:16 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 04:13:30 | fordcars_pi | I just hope I won't format the wrong partition (Windows) |
| 04:13:39 | fordcars_pi | #I did do a back up though, so no real worries |
| 04:14:06 | fordcars_pi | I am *pretty* sure I know which on it is, but I can't see their "names" |
| 04:14:15 | Nothing_Much | just a question though |
| 04:14:19 | Nothing_Much | why do you want windows? lol |
| 04:14:58 | fordcars_pi | haha |
| 04:15:09 | fordcars_pi | For the few games I have in it |
| 04:15:11 | fordcars_pi | :) |
| 04:15:21 | fordcars_pi | Ok, actually it's less gibberish that I thought |
| 04:15:30 | fordcars_pi | Is ext2 the best filesystem, or ext3? |
| 04:15:53 | raptor | ext4 |
| 04:15:56 | Nothing_Much | ext4 |
| 04:15:58 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 04:16:01 | fordcars_pi | Oh ok haha |
| 04:16:16 | Nothing_Much | sheesh man, the concept of bigger is better should've kicked in dude |
| 04:16:56 | fordcars_pi | Haha I'm such a noob |
| 04:17:03 | fordcars_pi | Alright, so bottable flag on |
| 04:17:09 | raptor | WAIT |
| 04:17:13 | raptor | WHAT ARE YOU DOING |
| 04:17:15 | Nothing_Much | WAIT |
| 04:17:20 | fordcars_pi | GASP |
| 04:17:23 | fordcars_pi | Wassup? |
| 04:17:26 | raptor | fordcars_pi: uhhh |
| 04:17:36 | fordcars_pi | I am setting up my Debian partition |
| 04:17:37 | raptor | what do you actually want to happen? dual boot? |
| 04:17:40 | fordcars_pi | Yeah |
| 04:17:49 | raptor | because, you should never change the bootable flag |
| 04:17:56 | raptor | unless you know what you're doing |
| 04:17:57 | fordcars_pi | I shouldn't? |
| 04:18:07 | raptor | no, especially with dual-boot |
| 04:18:13 | fordcars_pi | Oh, sorry |
| 04:18:15 | Nothing_Much | because grub will take over anyways |
| 04:18:28 | raptor | yes, you want your bootloader to do the work for you |
| 04:18:31 | Nothing_Much | don't be sorry, we're just keeping you from screwing up windows |
| 04:18:44 | Nothing_Much | so don't touch the bootable flag |
| 04:18:50 | Nothing_Much | grub will do everything in that regard |
| 04:18:51 | fordcars_pi | Ok, and mount points? |
| 04:18:55 | vs73nx | what bootloader does fordcars want to use? |
| 04:18:59 | Nothing_Much | grub |
| 04:19:03 | Nothing_Much | you always want grub |
| 04:19:05 | fordcars_pi | I don't know dude |
| 04:19:10 | fordcars_pi | :P |
| 04:19:13 | fordcars_pi | I really don'ty |
| 04:19:15 | Nothing_Much | lilo is better for... god knows what else is out there |
| 04:19:29 | Nothing_Much | but grub is simple, basic, and good for beginners |
| 04:19:31 | fordcars_pi | Alright, so now what? |
| 04:19:35 | raptor | if you're using the debian installation system, just choose defaults everywhere |
| 04:19:46 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: why doncha use Ubuntu though? |
| 04:19:48 | fordcars_pi | I format my partition with ext4? |
| 04:19:55 | raptor | ext4 is good |
| 04:19:57 | vs73nx | yes |
| 04:19:57 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, I was use to Debian :) |
| 04:20:16 | vs73nx | ext4 is almost always the better choice |
| 04:20:22 | Nothing_Much | well Ubuntu is Debian based, just easier and looks nicer too |
| 04:20:46 | vs73nx | and more upstream than the stable debian |
| 04:20:52 | Nothing_Much | that too |
| 04:21:01 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: Which version of Debian did you install? |
| 04:21:07 | fordcars_pi | The latest stable |
| 04:21:08 | vs73nx | not as upstream as arch though :) |
| 04:21:14 | fordcars_pi | 7.4.0 |
| 04:21:18 | Nothing_Much | ah Stable |
| 04:21:23 | fordcars_pi | Yes man |
| 04:21:26 | Nothing_Much | Stable's a bit outdated, just a fair warning |
| 04:21:37 | vs73nx | i would of chosen the next one up |
| 04:21:42 | vs73nx | the testing one |
| 04:21:50 | vs73nx | stable is good for servers tho |
| 04:21:57 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 04:21:58 | fordcars_pi | :P I wanted to be clean for once :) |
| 04:21:59 | vs73nx | as it is well... stable |
| 04:22:05 | vs73nx | thats ok |
| 04:22:07 | Nothing_Much | yeah |
| 04:22:15 | fordcars_pi | Ok, so how to set that drive as the boot drive? |
| 04:22:17 | Nothing_Much | you can always dist-upgrade after you change your sources.list |
| 04:22:27 | Nothing_Much | don't touch anything regarding booting dude |
| 04:22:39 | fordcars_pi | But, ok... |
| 04:22:50 | fordcars_pi | Where will it put it then? |
| 04:22:52 | Nothing_Much | hold up hold up hold up |
| 04:22:57 | Nothing_Much | UEFI or BIOS? |
| 04:23:02 | fordcars_pi | BIOS |
| 04:23:05 | fordcars_pi | I think |
| 04:23:05 | vs73nx | good |
| 04:23:14 | vs73nx | much less headaches than uefi |
| 04:23:14 | Nothing_Much | "I think" |
| 04:23:19 | Nothing_Much | hmm... |
| 04:23:27 | fordcars_pi | UEFI was pretty much screaming DONT INSTALL LINUX< USE WINDOWS |
| 04:23:28 | Nothing_Much | I never got a chance to use UEFI |
| 04:23:50 | fordcars_pi | "I think" meaning "yes" :) |
| 04:24:01 | | vs73nx knows the pains of setting up arch linux on a uefi system |
| 04:24:06 | vs73nx | it hurts |
| 04:24:27 | Nothing_Much | vs73nx: it's only secure boot that's the problem right? |
| 04:24:41 | vs73nx | with arch? |
| 04:24:45 | vs73nx | or debian |
| 04:24:48 | Nothing_Much | any distro dude |
| 04:25:04 | fordcars_pi | I think so |
| 04:25:05 | vs73nx | not sure, i havent lpayed around with linux latley |
| 04:25:18 | fordcars_pi | My CD drive was "Blocked by Security" |
| 04:25:35 | fordcars_pi | Ok, so I format my drive (Hoping it's the right partition) |
| 04:25:51 | Nothing_Much | oh goodness |
| 04:25:58 | Nothing_Much | vs73nx: oh you're usin' windows? |
| 04:26:04 | vs73nx | no |
| 04:26:15 | vs73nx | i just stopped distro hopping |
| 04:26:17 | fordcars_pi | openSUSE? |
| 04:26:20 | fordcars_pi | Oh ok |
| 04:26:27 | vs73nx | im using kbuntu |
| 04:26:39 | vs73nx | but my mac is my fave machine to use though |
| 04:26:47 | vs73nx | i need to leave for a bit so i can have my daily dose of vitamin d |
| 04:26:49 | vs73nx | cya all |
| 04:27:11 | Nothing_Much | l8r vs73nx |
| 04:27:14 | fordcars_pi | Later! |
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| 04:27:24 | fordcars_pi | uh, how do I select my root drive? |
| 04:27:27 | fordcars_pi | *partition |
| 04:27:37 | Nothing_Much | in gparted? |
| 04:27:43 | fordcars_pi | Uh, in the Installer |
| 04:27:57 | fordcars_pi | Is it RAID |
| 04:28:47 | Nothing_Much | not RAID |
| 04:29:06 | fordcars_pi | Hmmm |
| 04:29:24 | fordcars_pi | When I click "Continue", it says I don't have a drive selected |
| 04:29:59 | fordcars_pi | Am I suppose to have 1 partition for boot and another for the filesystem? |
| 04:30:22 | Nothing_Much | you can but it's not recommended for newbies |
| 04:30:38 | Nothing_Much | alright |
| 04:31:04 | Nothing_Much | what fs do you have for debian right now? |
| 04:31:20 | fordcars_pi | Fs? |
| 04:31:29 | Nothing_Much | filesystem |
| 04:32:12 | fordcars_pi | Well, ok look |
| 04:32:37 | fordcars_pi | I partitionned my hard drive in Windows to get a debian partition for dual boot |
| 04:32:54 | fordcars_pi | Now, I have selected that partition to format to ext4 |
| 04:33:15 | fordcars_pi | And now it wants me to select the partition for /root |
| 04:33:23 | fordcars_pi | But how :O |
| 04:34:08 | fordcars_pi | Oh wait |
| 04:34:23 | fordcars_pi | Ok, I have to select the partitions to continue with the installation |
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| 04:44:31 | fordcars_pi | Wow am I lost |
| 04:46:48 | Skybax_ | What |
| 04:47:19 | fordcars_pi | Installing Linux |
| 04:47:33 | Skybax_ | Ah |
| 04:51:01 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: I seriously would recommend you trying out Ubuntu before Debian |
| 04:51:05 | Nothing_Much | It's a lot easier, trust me |
| 04:51:25 | Nothing_Much | Cuz unless I'm right behind you giving you pointers on how Debian's installer works, you might be outta luck |
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| 04:54:47 | fordcars_pi | I think I got it |
| 04:55:07 | fordcars_pi | I got the best partition scheme from Debian.org |
| 04:55:36 | fordcars_pi | SO, I'll resize my partition and make new partitions |
| 04:58:59 | raptor | fordcars_pi: it seems like you're doing too much work |
| 04:59:25 | raptor | normally, y ou just boot the installer and it'll help you partition correctly |
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| 05:00:31 | fordcars_pi | raptor, yes, but it only had the option to format my whole drive: I don't want that |
| 05:00:48 | raptor | what distro + version again? |
| 05:00:56 | fordcars_pi | Debian + 7.4.0 |
| 05:01:03 | fordcars_pi | Graphical Installer |
| 05:02:26 | fordcars_pi | Nothing_Much: you are probably right ^^ |
| 05:02:53 | fordcars_pi | Oh I got it I think |
| 05:03:11 | fordcars_pi | I set the partition's mount point to '/' |
| 05:03:13 | fordcars_pi | ext4 |
| 05:03:22 | fordcars_pi | and I got a 10gb swap |
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| 05:06:35 | fordcars_pi | I went for it |
| 05:07:32 | raptor | uhh... how much RAM? |
| 05:07:49 | raptor | you probably only need 1 or 2 GB swap at most |
| 05:08:09 | fordcars_pi | Oh oops |
| 05:08:13 | fordcars_pi | I got 8gb |
| 05:08:24 | fordcars_pi | Oh well, I guess I got a pretty big margin |
| 05:08:38 | raptor | ha, it won't hurt, i suppose |
| 05:08:58 | fordcars_pi | My hard drive is plenty big, and I got a 1tb hdd waiting on my desk |
| 05:09:11 | fordcars_pi | Alright, I think we are good! Thanks :) |
| 05:09:34 | fordcars_pi | Nothing_Much, I'll check out Ubuntu for my future Linux installation on our old mac |
| 05:09:47 | fordcars_pi | Or, this computer if I reeally want to get rid of Windows |
| 05:09:56 | fordcars_pi | Or if I am fed up with Debian |
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| 05:21:51 | Nothing_Much | dude |
| 05:22:01 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: download ubuntu right now and burn it to a dvd or usb |
| 05:22:01 | bobdaduck | dute |
| 05:22:14 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, I think I will :0 |
| 05:22:28 | fordcars_pi | Actually, does it still support PPC? |
| 05:22:43 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: Not exactly... |
| 05:22:46 | Nothing_Much | PPC is dying dude |
| 05:23:01 | raptor | you need debian or a server OS (like SLES) for ppc |
| 05:23:11 | raptor | oh actually |
| 05:23:20 | raptor | openSUSE 13.1 just released supports ppc64 |
| 05:23:37 | fordcars_pi | Hah ppc64 |
| 05:23:42 | fordcars_pi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC |
| 05:24:08 | fordcars_pi | Oh only Ubuntu server is supported I think |
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| 05:24:29 | fordcars_pi | Alrighty then, Ubuntu will hop on my Windows Xp machine |
| 05:24:32 | fordcars_pi | Non-dual boot |
| 05:24:37 | Nothing_Much | yeah x86/x64 and armhf are officially supported by Ubuntu |
| 05:24:39 | Nothing_Much | wait |
| 05:24:41 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: |
| 05:24:47 | Nothing_Much | what are your specs on the XP machine? |
| 05:24:51 | fordcars_pi | Since Xp is literally dying in April I think |
| 05:24:58 | Nothing_Much | it most certainly is |
| 05:24:59 | fordcars_pi | Uh, Intel Pentium 4 |
| 05:25:08 | Nothing_Much | that's good enough |
| 05:25:20 | fordcars_pi | Cool :D |
| 05:25:28 | Nothing_Much | install 13.10 and then sudo do-release-upgrade |
| 05:25:43 | raptor | i need to update our downloads page... but it's so ugly I can't bring myself to do it again |
| 05:26:00 | Skybax_ | What |
| 05:26:10 | fordcars_pi | raptor, is it that ugly? (Apart from the hex) |
| 05:26:15 | fordcars_pi | *hash |
| 05:26:16 | raptor | it's functional, yes |
| 05:26:24 | raptor | i suppose not too bad... |
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| 05:26:54 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, I'll do that after Debian is done (It's my only CD burner) |
| 05:27:11 | Nothing_Much | alright sure dude |
| 05:27:19 | fordcars_pi | I could actually also host a home server with that |
| 05:27:20 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: they have to be DVDs though for Ubuntu |
| 05:27:22 | fordcars_pi | Or Bitfighter |
| 05:27:26 | fordcars_pi | Haha |
| 05:27:39 | Nothing_Much | CD's won't cut it for Ubuntu anymore |
| 05:27:47 | fordcars_pi | That computer existed before DVDs (kindof), it doesn't have a DVD drive |
| 05:27:52 | fordcars_pi | :O |
| 05:27:57 | fordcars_pi | Floppy? :) |
| 05:27:59 | Nothing_Much | uh oh, do you have a USB drive? |
| 05:28:02 | fordcars_pi | Yeah |
| 05:28:08 | Nothing_Much | is it freely available? |
| 05:28:12 | fordcars_pi | I guess I could boot from that |
| 05:28:14 | fordcars_pi | Yep |
| 05:28:21 | Nothing_Much | unetbootin is good |
| 05:28:28 | Nothing_Much | make sure you format it though |
| 05:28:40 | fordcars_pi | Okokokok |
| 05:29:03 | fordcars_pi | I am a Linuxer now |
| 05:29:19 | Nothing_Much | raptor: does the bitpress thing easy to use for beginners or does it require html knowledge? |
| 05:29:24 | Nothing_Much | *is the bitpress thing |
| 05:29:26 | fordcars_pi | All I need is a Penguin suit now |
| 05:29:32 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: nah |
| 05:30:24 | fordcars_pi | What do you mean? I love penguin suits |
| 05:30:34 | raptor | i'm not sure bitpress is our future - it was just an idea.. |
| 05:30:53 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, html is super easy :) |
| 05:31:18 | fordcars_pi | But CSS is tougher I think |
| 05:31:21 | fordcars_pi | Well I suck at it |
| 05:31:33 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: yeah html is super easy, the CSS stuff is what's tough for me |
| 05:31:37 | Nothing_Much | since I'm not very creative |
| 05:31:42 | fordcars_pi | Me neither :P |
| 05:31:44 | Nothing_Much | but I'd love to see bitpress as the future |
| 05:32:00 | Nothing_Much | because it fixes the horizontal scroll line at the bottom of the homepage lol |
| 05:32:10 | fordcars_pi | Lol |
| 05:32:50 | Nothing_Much | I'm serious, it happens on every web browser on Ubuntu here! |
| 05:32:57 | fordcars_pi | Hah! |
| 05:33:19 | fordcars_pi | I normally use a simple Html browser on my Pi |
| 05:33:47 | fordcars_pi | Well, I sometimes use Midori and HTML5 and all, but it's fairly slow |
| 05:34:09 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 05:34:16 | raptor | midori: small but mighty crashy! |
| 05:34:17 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, ever thought of making the window larger? |
| 05:34:22 | fordcars_pi | Yes! |
| 05:34:35 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: I always maximize my web browsers lol |
| 05:34:43 | fordcars_pi | Lol |
| 05:34:45 | Nothing_Much | hang on, I'll show ya a screenshot |
| 05:34:47 | raptor | maybe we're obscure enough to not need the hashes |
| 05:34:59 | fordcars_pi | raptor, what do those even mean? |
| 05:35:25 | raptor | for verification that your file that download didn't corrupt |
| 05:35:34 | fordcars_pi | Oh okok |
| 05:35:43 | raptor | it's important for 'important' software |
| 05:35:59 | fordcars_pi | Bitfighter is more important than important |
| 05:36:13 | Nothing_Much | how do you make a hash? |
| 05:36:26 | fordcars_pi | Type random letters and numbers on a keyboard I guess |
| 05:36:33 | fordcars_pi | Or encryption |
| 05:36:43 | Nothing_Much | I thought a hash was something else... |
| 05:36:46 | raptor | use a hashing utility |
| 05:36:48 | fordcars_pi | # |
| 05:36:55 | fordcars_pi | hash tag^^ |
| 05:36:59 | raptor | hashing is important to encryption, but it's used for verification |
| 05:37:21 | raptor | on linux, there are various hashers: md5sum sha1sum sha256sum, etc. |
| 05:37:44 | raptor | think advanced checksum |
| 05:37:49 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, that screenshot? :P |
| 05:38:24 | Nothing_Much | http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=ee2123e |
| 05:38:27 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: ^ |
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| 05:38:59 | fordcars_pi | Whoa! |
| 05:39:06 | Nothing_Much | wut |
| 05:39:28 | fordcars_pi | On my "normal" web browser, the sides of the page are much smaller |
| 05:39:48 | fordcars_pi | And that's firefox? That's funny |
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| 05:40:12 | fordcars_pi | I'm pretty sure the page is supposed to resize it self, I may be mistaken |
| 05:40:34 | Nothing_Much | it might be a glitch with whatever is going on with that thing |
| 05:40:37 | Nothing_Much | or something |
| 05:40:39 | Nothing_Much | idk |
| 05:40:41 | Nothing_Much | but bitpress looks nice |
| 05:40:44 | fordcars_pi | Is it only on that page? |
| 05:40:45 | Nothing_Much | but what other things exist? |
| 05:40:53 | Nothing_Much | nope, it extends to the downloads and others |
| 05:40:56 | Nothing_Much | except the wiki and the forums |
| 05:40:58 | fordcars_pi | I don't think I've really seen bitpress before |
| 05:41:07 | fordcars_pi | But only on bitfighter .org? |
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| 05:41:17 | bobdaduck | Its a good thing the downloads page lets me know my SHA-1 checksum! |
| 05:41:27 | fordcars_pi | ikr! |
| 05:41:50 | Nothing_Much | raptor: what exactly is wordpress called again? |
| 05:41:59 | fordcars_pi | WordPress I believe |
| 05:41:59 | Nothing_Much | like, what kinda program is it? |
| 05:42:03 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 05:42:05 | raptor | wordpress |
| 05:42:07 | fordcars_pi | :) |
| 05:42:10 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 05:42:12 | raptor | oh, a CMS |
| 05:42:19 | raptor | oh hi bobdaduck |
| 05:42:22 | bobdaduck | HI |
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| 05:43:01 | bobdaduck | Grar |
| 05:43:11 | Nothing_Much | cms |
| 05:43:13 | raptor | never met him |
| 05:43:13 | Nothing_Much | hmm.. |
| 05:43:13 | bobdaduck | can you make it so if I install bitfighter to a folder that already has bitfighter on it |
| 05:43:27 | vs73nx | hi everyone, im back |
| 05:43:29 | Nothing_Much | how would I test a CMS out? |
| 05:43:29 | bobdaduck | it doesn't re-install all the stock levels? |
| 05:43:31 | Nothing_Much | Hey vs73nx |
| 05:43:36 | fordcars_pi | Standalone? |
| 05:43:37 | vs73nx | was the debian install problems fixed? |
| 05:43:43 | raptor | maybe |
| 05:43:46 | raptor | well, yes |
| 05:43:47 | vs73nx | ok |
| 05:43:48 | raptor | but |
| 05:43:50 | fordcars_pi | Nothing, I think you can just open the generated html with any web browser |
| 05:43:51 | raptor | that's extra work |
| 05:43:53 | fordcars_pi | Yes! |
| 05:44:02 | vs73nx | ok |
| 05:44:15 | fordcars_pi | I managed to get through this :) |
| 05:44:23 | fordcars_pi | I am truly a Linux noob |
| 05:44:46 | Nothing_Much | good job fordcars_pi! |
| 05:45:01 | fordcars_pi | Hehe thanks :) |
| 05:45:19 | fordcars_pi | It's just finishing program installations now |
| 05:45:28 | vs73nx | i went from linux noob to not noob while i was installing arch |
| 05:45:35 | Nothing_Much | pfft |
| 05:45:36 | fordcars_pi | Hah |
| 05:45:37 | Nothing_Much | arch |
| 05:45:39 | bobdaduck | It would be really nice because the stock levels are really bad |
| 05:45:52 | bobdaduck | And I've deleted them all like 5 times in the past two days |
| 05:45:56 | vs73nx | arch was a good learning experience |
| 05:46:04 | fordcars_pi | I never learned arch |
| 05:46:08 | fordcars_pi | *used |
| 05:46:12 | vs73nx | but not good for everyday use |
| 05:46:14 | bobdaduck | And I have the intrinsic right not to be inconvenienced by 10 seconds |
| 05:46:33 | fordcars_pi | I really need to try out more distros |
| 05:46:37 | vs73nx | fordcars_pi: you install arch without a GUI |
| 05:46:46 | fordcars_pi | Heh |
| 05:46:47 | vs73nx | completley in the commandline |
| 05:46:48 | Nothing_Much | yeah don't use arch |
| 05:46:51 | Nothing_Much | it's hard |
| 05:46:53 | Nothing_Much | very hard |
| 05:46:56 | vs73nx | you install the gui yourself |
| 05:47:06 | vs73nx | i say to install it once and then delete it |
| 05:47:06 | fordcars_pi | Actually, I in stalled mint on my hacked Wii |
| 05:47:17 | Nothing_Much | whoa really? :O |
| 05:47:23 | fordcars_pi | But I diserve no credit |
| 05:47:32 | Nothing_Much | pfft |
| 05:47:43 | fordcars_pi | As in, the installer was really easy. It was click and go |
| 05:47:56 | vs73nx | finally a good use for the nintendo wii picking up dust next to the tv |
| 05:48:00 | fordcars_pi | Haha |
| 05:48:38 | fordcars_pi | But sadly, since I have too new of a Wii or somethin, Lin ux can't run before the Wii's firmware, so I can't connect to the internet |
| 05:48:42 | fordcars_pi | *a |
| 05:49:23 | Nothing_Much | well darn |
| 05:49:47 | fordcars_pi | But I haven't used that in ages |
| 05:50:27 | vs73nx | i havent touched the wiii for around 2 ~ 3 years |
| 05:50:41 | vs73nx | we have an original wii |
| 05:51:07 | vs73nx | * we as in my family |
| 05:51:14 | fordcars_pi | Ah sweet |
| 05:51:24 | vs73nx | it was nice at the time |
| 05:51:40 | vs73nx | i honestly thought that the graphics were cutting edge |
| 05:51:47 | fordcars_pi | :) We all did |
| 05:54:09 | fordcars_pi | Nothing_Much: do you have a console? |
| 05:55:07 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: yeah a wii, genesis, dreamcast and psone |
| 05:55:20 | fordcars_pi | Heh Dreamcas, sweet |
| 05:55:25 | Nothing_Much | heck yeah |
| 05:55:40 | fordcars_pi | I only have a Wii |
| 05:55:54 | fordcars_pi | But I'm getting more and more into GameJolt |
| 05:56:15 | vs73nx | i found a great game at gamejolt the other day |
| 05:56:17 | raptor | oh blah, I forgot the portable build |
| 05:56:25 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: lol nice |
| 05:56:25 | fordcars_pi | Blah! |
| 05:56:31 | fordcars_pi | Hehe |
| 05:56:56 | vs73nx | http://gamejolt.com/games/arcade/first-person-flappy-bird/22397/ |
| 05:57:10 | vs73nx | its windows only but it works perfectly through wine |
| 05:57:18 | raptor | bobdaduck: watusimoto added experimental editor screen adjustment API calls just for you and plugins |
| 05:57:32 | bobdaduck | that'll be nice |
| 05:58:42 | vs73nx | although first person flappy bird is rage inducing to the max |
| 05:59:02 | fordcars_pi | Haha |
| 05:59:50 | vs73nx | try to beat my l33t h4x0rz high score of 15 |
| 05:59:54 | vs73nx | i dare you |
| 05:59:58 | vs73nx | :D |
| 06:00:35 | fordcars_pi | Haha |
| 06:00:50 | fordcars_pi | I probably won't get over 4 |
| 06:00:56 | Skybax | I'm downloading it now |
| 06:01:37 | Skybax | I have a Wii U |
| 06:01:40 | Skybax | It's amazing |
| 06:03:16 | vs73nx | i found a great video about the game if you cant download it. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rle8fa0wJ-k#t=141 |
| 06:06:55 | vs73nx | found another one > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnFQnRgtSE |
| 06:07:11 | raptor | here they are bobdaduck: http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/class_editor_plugin.html |
| 06:07:22 | vs73nx | its for a different game but its still funny |
| 06:07:25 | bobdaduck | Can I use those in 019b |
| 06:07:26 | bobdaduck | ? |
| 06:07:30 | raptor | ys |
| 06:07:32 | raptor | yes |
| 06:07:37 | bobdaduck | k |
| 06:07:44 | bobdaduck | Did you figure out what I was doing wrong in my plugin? |
| 06:07:46 | raptor | for editor plugins |
| 06:07:49 | raptor | yes |
| 06:08:00 | raptor | there was a bug that was fixed in 019b that made it work properly |
| 06:08:02 | raptor | :) |
| 06:08:04 | fordcars_pi | Alright, all done! |
| 06:08:10 | Skybax | I got 2 and gave up |
| 06:08:22 | fordcars_pi | All I got to figure out is how to get out of the Intel boot prompt |
| 06:08:25 | bobdaduck | Did you add in the screen moving part too!? |
| 06:08:49 | raptor | YES |
| 06:08:55 | raptor | well, watusimoto did |
| 06:10:35 | bobdaduck | like into the plugin? |
| 06:11:19 | raptor | oh no, they are provided |
| 06:11:29 | raptor | i haven't added them to your specific plugin yet |
| 06:12:31 | bobdaduck | raptor can you help me fix my router? |
| 06:12:52 | raptor | probably, if I was in your home |
| 06:12:58 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 06:13:00 | Skybax | xD |
| 06:13:02 | bobdaduck | You can do that tomorrow! |
| 06:13:14 | bobdaduck | or you can just tell me what to do to make my server stop being PTO |
| 06:13:19 | raptor | ah |
| 06:13:40 | bobdaduck | It looks like I've opened the port 28000 for bitfighter six different times here... |
| 06:13:54 | raptor | then it needs to go to the computer with the correct IP address |
| 06:14:03 | raptor | and you need to make sure bitfighter starts on port 28000 |
| 06:14:18 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 06:14:57 | bobdaduck | oh okay its not listing my IP address |
| 06:15:06 | bobdaduck | alright saving changes |
| 06:15:10 | bobdaduck | can you tell me if it shows up? |
| 06:15:20 | raptor | ok |
| 06:15:34 | raptor | nope |
| 06:15:46 | bobdaduck | now? |
| 06:16:19 | raptor | maybe your windows machine has the software firewall blocking it... in which case you need to open port 28000 on that, too |
| 06:16:41 | bobdaduck | hm |
| 06:16:51 | bobdaduck | how would I know? |
| 06:17:53 | raptor | there is a windows firewall |
| 06:17:58 | raptor | #1 is it on? |
| 06:18:12 | raptor | #2, if so, check the open ports somehow |
| 06:18:17 | bobdaduck | currently yes |
| 06:18:22 | bobdaduck | I'll try disabling it |
| 06:18:29 | raptor | ok, that's a good quick check |
| 06:18:37 | bobdaduck | Done |
| 06:18:50 | raptor | still no |
| 06:19:15 | raptor | are you sure your router is forwarding to your correct IP address for the specific computer? |
| 06:19:48 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 06:20:00 | bobdaduck | it wasn't (I guess my IP changed) but it is now |
| 06:20:28 | raptor | does the IP start with 66 or 192 or 172? |
| 06:20:42 | bobdaduck | 192.168.1.112 |
| 06:20:48 | raptor | ok good, that's an internal one |
| 06:20:53 | raptor | and firewall is down? |
| 06:21:02 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 06:21:09 | bobdaduck | Okay trying something |
| 06:21:10 | bobdaduck | check? |
| 06:21:17 | raptor | ok |
| 06:21:21 | fordcars_pi | bobdaduck, do you have a static internal ip? |
| 06:21:25 | raptor | no go |
| 06:21:26 | bobdaduck | Probably |
| 06:21:42 | raptor | bobdaduck: is your router connected to another router? |
| 06:21:49 | bobdaduck | Not that I know of. |
| 06:21:54 | bobdaduck | Most likely not |
| 06:21:58 | bobdaduck | because it used to work. |
| 06:22:02 | raptor | or is it straight to the fiber? |
| 06:22:10 | raptor | let's pretend the past doesn't exist |
| 06:22:23 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 06:22:31 | bobdaduck | I'd have to go through the tenants house to check... |
| 06:22:36 | bobdaduck | Nothing has changed that I know of |
| 06:22:46 | bobdaduck | Though a tenant has moved in and maybe bumped my IP or something |
| 06:22:50 | bobdaduck | check again? |
| 06:22:59 | raptor | still down |
| 06:23:31 | raptor | ok, try this |
| 06:23:33 | fordcars_pi | Quick question: do I set my boot type back to UEFI after installation? |
| 06:23:44 | raptor | check your router's IP address |
| 06:23:52 | raptor | tell me what it starts with |
| 06:24:08 | bobdaduck | shoot I'm not sure which one that is |
| 06:24:24 | raptor | there's usually some status page on the router admin console |
| 06:24:25 | bobdaduck | oh wait |
| 06:24:32 | bobdaduck | yeah I think 66.219? |
| 06:24:46 | raptor | does it say that? |
| 06:24:49 | bobdaduck | yeah |
| 06:25:03 | raptor | ok, then that's the parent-most router |
| 06:25:04 | raptor | good |
| 06:25:22 | raptor | which you have control over |
| 06:25:42 | bobdaduck | 255.255.255.255 |
| 06:25:48 | raptor | NO BAD NUMBER |
| 06:25:52 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 06:26:03 | bobdaduck | why? actually tell me later |
| 06:26:08 | bobdaduck | still working on this |
| 06:26:13 | raptor | ok |
| 06:26:14 | raptor | so |
| 06:26:16 | raptor | now |
| 06:26:17 | raptor | oh! |
| 06:26:24 | raptor | on your router |
| 06:26:34 | raptor | is there an option to allow TCP or UDP through on the port? |
| 06:26:45 | bobdaduck | Set to both on all things bitfighter |
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| 06:29:04 | raptor | and you'r sure it's 28000 |
| 06:29:08 | raptor | 3 zeros |
| 06:30:17 | raptor | oh, if you have 28000 enabled for many other IP address, only one will actually work |
| 06:30:28 | raptor | so uncheck or remove the others |
| 06:30:34 | bobdaduck | huh okay |
| 06:30:50 | bobdaduck | doing |
| 06:30:58 | raptor | it's up! |
| 06:31:10 | raptor | 12 ping! |
| 06:31:15 | raptor | we must be on the same network |
| 06:31:25 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 06:31:31 | bobdaduck | okay so that would be it |
| 06:31:42 | raptor | port collisions |
| 06:32:19 | bobdaduck | So why is the 255 over and over again a bad number? |
| 06:33:48 | fordcars_pi | It's not pretty |
| 06:33:56 | fordcars_pi | It's too repetitive |
| 06:34:00 | fordcars_pi | It's ugly |
| 06:34:05 | raptor | that's the broadcast number |
| 06:34:21 | raptor | if you send a packet there, it'll send to everyone, everywhere |
| 06:34:28 | raptor | but actually, because of that |
| 06:34:42 | raptor | it's considered a non-operative IP address |
| 06:34:54 | raptor | so no packets or data will actually ever be routed |
| 06:39:43 | Nothing_Much | fordcars_pi: do you know how to set up a server for html or somethin'? |
| 06:39:50 | Nothing_Much | I wanna practice CMS's |
| 06:40:05 | fordcars_pi | Sure, but you can do that without a server I think |
| 06:40:11 | fordcars_pi | <aybe not, I don't know |
| 06:40:14 | fordcars_pi | *maybe |
| 06:40:19 | Nothing_Much | hmm.. |
| 06:40:30 | fordcars_pi | Well, download Apache http server, and BOOM, your own web site :) |
| 06:40:41 | fordcars_pi | Http: html server |
| 06:40:47 | Nothing_Much | I got Apache and MySQL stuff installed already |
| 06:40:48 | Nothing_Much | now wut |
| 06:40:52 | fordcars_pi | Oh |
| 06:40:54 | fordcars_pi | Ok :P |
| 06:41:06 | fordcars_pi | I never actually used Apache Http btw :) |
| 06:41:12 | fordcars_pi | But yeah |
| 06:41:45 | fordcars_pi | I guess you would make an html with CMS, and then call it index.html and stick that in the Server's directory |
| 06:41:54 | fordcars_pi | public_html I think |
| 06:43:09 | bobdaduck | why do ports clash? |
| 06:44:35 | bobdaduck | and what would I do if I wanted multiple computers in my house to be able to host? |
| 06:48:17 | raptor | so the problem is: |
| 06:48:42 | raptor | each device has a number of ports, 65535 |
| 06:48:57 | raptor | but only one port at a time can be used by an application |
| 06:49:36 | raptor | so in this case, your router is saying that the port 28000 is open to another computer on teh network |
| 06:49:40 | raptor | so it's used up on the router |
| 06:50:05 | raptor | if you want multiple computers to host, then they have to use different ports on the router |
| 06:50:12 | raptor | because the router is a single point of entry |
| 06:51:54 | raptor | ok downloads page updated, I hope it's an improvement: http://bitfighter.org/downloads |
| 06:51:56 | bobdaduck | hm, okay |
| 06:52:16 | bobdaduck | needs dividers |
| 06:52:22 | bobdaduck | between OSes |
| 06:53:25 | raptor | hmm |
| 07:01:31 | raptor | i need to head to bed, i can't get lines on that table and it's bugging me |
| 07:01:44 | raptor | night! |
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| 13:48:42 | raptor | good morning |
| 13:48:59 | raptor | way too early for a saturday.. |
| 13:50:33 | Nothing_Much | mornin' |
| 13:50:40 | Nothing_Much | oh man tell me about it |
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| 13:50:54 | Nothing_Much | did we spring forward yet? |
| 13:51:38 | raptor | is it that time alraedy? |
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| 13:52:11 | Nothing_Much | idk.. but I slept fairly well up until I woke up |
| 13:59:55 | Nothing_Much | new version and it's not on the front page! |
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| 14:29:08 | raptor | I'll let watusimoto do that... |
| 14:31:32 | raptor | This release I provided a standalone Linux version |
| 14:31:47 | raptor | oh, I still need to do the debian ones... |
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| 14:40:17 | raptor | baord.net keep sfailing for me |
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| 14:54:53 | Nothing_Much | how do I cp -r the old levels and config to the new version of bitfighter? |
| 15:06:53 | Nothing_Much | kaen: do you know how to update a server without doing over the configs? |
| 15:06:57 | Nothing_Much | and levels? |
| 15:09:22 | raptor | Nothing_Much: do you run a portable install? |
| 15:09:44 | raptor | bitfighter will keep your old config, and just update necessary parts (none were changed this release) |
| 15:10:01 | Nothing_Much | I did make bitfighterd |
| 15:10:35 | Nothing_Much | on Linux |
| 15:11:09 | raptor | ok, then that's probably all you need to do - you are running it from the 'exe' directory, right? |
| 15:12:31 | Nothing_Much | yeah, but how do I migrate my levels and configs? |
| 15:12:54 | raptor | just leave them |
| 15:13:22 | raptor | when you run it for the first time in the same way, the new version will do the migration |
| 15:13:39 | Nothing_Much | oh really? |
| 15:13:41 | Nothing_Much | well |
| 15:13:46 | Nothing_Much | my levels were set back to the default |
| 15:13:54 | Nothing_Much | oh hold on |
| 15:14:11 | Nothing_Much | the folder's names are different, I have bitfighter-019a and bitfighter-019b |
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| 15:15:14 | raptor | oh, you didn't update the same directory |
| 15:15:17 | raptor | ? |
| 15:16:37 | Nothing_Much | so I should just rename bitfighter-019a to just bitfighter then extract the files from 019b to the new bitfighter? |
| 15:18:04 | raptor | no |
| 15:18:16 | raptor | you're not giving me enough information - how do you have it installed? |
| 15:18:39 | Nothing_Much | I took the tar.gz file extracted it, then maked it |
| 15:18:43 | raptor | ah ok |
| 15:18:44 | Nothing_Much | or cmaked it |
| 15:18:53 | raptor | and where are your levels? |
| 15:19:21 | Nothing_Much | in the levels directory |
| 15:19:24 | Nothing_Much | in 019a |
| 15:19:49 | raptor | yes, but where? in the extracted folder, or in your home directory? |
| 15:19:58 | Nothing_Much | oh, home directory |
| 15:20:02 | Nothing_Much | wait |
| 15:20:02 | raptor | i'm trying to find out if you did a standalone isntall |
| 15:20:11 | Nothing_Much | not in the home dir |
| 15:20:16 | raptor | if you start 019a, check the diagnostics screen (F7) |
| 15:20:21 | Nothing_Much | in the bitfighter-019a folder |
| 15:20:22 | raptor | it will show you your folders |
| 15:20:30 | Nothing_Much | it's a dedicated server |
| 15:20:35 | raptor | ah ok |
| 15:21:40 | raptor | after you build 019b, you can just copy the folders from your 019a installation |
| 15:21:50 | raptor | resources: e.g. levels/bots/scripts |
| 15:22:02 | Nothing_Much | right, so how do I do that? |
| 15:22:32 | raptor | you can do: cp -a /path/to/019/exe/levels /path/to/019b/exe/ |
| 15:22:49 | raptor | cp -a means do an archive copy and keep everything the same |
| 15:22:51 | Nothing_Much | alright, thanks |
| 15:23:11 | Nothing_Much | will it overwrite the levels folder so it doesn't merge? |
| 15:23:14 | raptor | also do 'scripts' and 'robots' |
| 15:23:28 | raptor | i think just those 3 is what's really needed for dedicated server |
| 15:24:05 | Nothing_Much | it's that and the bitfighter.ini file |
| 15:24:13 | raptor | ah yes |
| 15:24:30 | raptor | an you'll probably have to adjust any scripts you have starting it.. |
| 15:24:33 | raptor | *and |
| 15:24:37 | Nothing_Much | right |
| 15:24:53 | raptor | you way want to consider just cloning from the repo |
| 15:25:13 | raptor | so then in the future you can update in the same folder |
| 15:25:19 | raptor | build and be done |
| 15:25:56 | Nothing_Much | ohh |
| 15:26:03 | Nothing_Much | okay, maybe I'll do that right now |
| 15:26:30 | raptor | it's what we do on the master server for simplicity |
| 15:26:59 | Nothing_Much | oh wait, openvz doesn't like hg clone :( |
| 15:27:44 | raptor | why not? |
| 15:27:55 | raptor | yum install mercurial? |
| 15:28:07 | Nothing_Much | nope, the actual cloning of the repo |
| 15:28:14 | raptor | ohh.... |
| 15:28:18 | raptor | because of memory? |
| 15:28:18 | Nothing_Much | it just says "Killed" after it says something |
| 15:28:22 | raptor | oh blah |
| 15:28:32 | raptor | ok, let me get you an archive of the repo, then |
| 15:30:37 | raptor | can you handle tar.xz? |
| 15:31:10 | Nothing_Much | I can handle tar.gz afaik |
| 15:31:22 | Nothing_Much | what's the command for extracting tar.xz? |
| 15:31:36 | raptor | cfJ |
| 15:31:39 | raptor | capital J |
| 15:31:48 | raptor | I only ask because I can compress better with that |
| 15:32:15 | raptor | because the tar.gz is 180 MB |
| 15:32:48 | Nothing_Much | I think I can |
| 15:33:10 | raptor | unless is 180MD download OK for you? |
| 15:33:14 | raptor | *MB |
| 15:33:36 | Nothing_Much | I'm pretty sure it can be downloaded |
| 15:34:01 | raptor | ok, we'll use the tar.gz |
| 15:34:12 | raptor | just in case |
| 15:35:45 | raptor | sent you the clone download in a PM |
| 15:37:26 | Nothing_Much | got it |
| 15:37:52 | raptor | so after you download and extract it, you'll have a full bitfighter clone from which you can pull/update |
| 15:38:06 | Nothing_Much | oh wow really? |
| 15:38:06 | raptor | after extraced, do this: hg update bitfighter-019b |
| 15:38:10 | raptor | yep |
| 15:38:13 | Nothing_Much | cool! |
| 15:38:22 | Nothing_Much | I thought you'd have to use hg for everything and not tars |
| 15:39:00 | raptor | hg is mostly self-contained so we can do this trick :) |
| 15:41:36 | Nothing_Much | nice |
| 15:41:40 | Nothing_Much | curious |
| 15:42:00 | Nothing_Much | what other places aside from google code utilize hg or mercurial? |
| 15:43:50 | raptor | there's bitbucket |
| 15:44:10 | raptor | mercurial is actually used mostly in-house in companies |
| 15:44:21 | raptor | because it's friendlier than git, and just as powerful |
| 15:45:19 | raptor | sadly it didn't have the evangelistic furor behind it like git did, so it didn't catch on as much - but for years is was the only really good dvcs available for windows as well as linux |
| 15:45:39 | raptor | which is why google code went with it first |
| 15:46:42 | Nothing_Much | you mean Linus? |
| 15:46:50 | Nothing_Much | as the furor? |
| 15:46:55 | Nothing_Much | or is that something else? |
| 15:47:36 | Nothing_Much | oh, got an error |
| 15:47:38 | Nothing_Much | abort: requirement 'dotencode' not supported! |
| 15:48:14 | raptor | on doing what command? |
| 15:48:33 | Nothing_Much | hg update bitfighter-019b |
| 15:50:41 | raptor | that's weird |
| 15:50:51 | Nothing_Much | hang on |
| 15:51:05 | Nothing_Much | http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/RequiresFile#Older_Mercurial_versions |
| 15:51:12 | Nothing_Much | which is repoA and repoB? |
| 15:51:27 | raptor | oh blah |
| 15:51:33 | raptor | repoA is the source |
| 15:51:37 | raptor | repoB is the destination |
| 15:52:16 | raptor | i'll recreate the repo for you if you can't complete that because of memory (again) |
| 15:52:28 | Nothing_Much | that's a memory issue? |
| 15:53:36 | Nothing_Much | no no |
| 15:53:44 | Nothing_Much | it's because of an older version of mercurial |
| 15:53:49 | Nothing_Much | that's on my server |
| 15:54:02 | raptor | yes |
| 15:54:26 | Nothing_Much | that's not a memory issue, that's just a version difference issue. |
| 15:55:01 | Nothing_Much | I just need the names of the source and destination directories |
| 15:55:51 | raptor | actually |
| 15:55:56 | raptor | what mercurial version do you have? |
| 15:56:10 | raptor | it may be simpler to upgrade it.. |
| 15:56:50 | Nothing_Much | 1.4 is what I've got |
| 15:57:03 | raptor | on centos 6? |
| 15:57:07 | Nothing_Much | yep |
| 15:57:19 | raptor | do you have the epel repo installed? |
| 15:57:35 | Nothing_Much | I believe so |
| 15:58:49 | raptor | 64 or 32 bit? |
| 15:58:53 | Nothing_Much | 32 |
| 15:59:02 | raptor | install this: http://pkgs.repoforge.org/mercurial/mercurial-2.2.2-1.el6.rfx.i686.rpm |
| 15:59:07 | raptor | that's the newer mercurial |
| 15:59:33 | raptor | then you don't need to redownload my new clone |
| 15:59:40 | raptor | in the older versino |
| 15:59:46 | Nothing_Much | alright |
| 16:00:02 | Nothing_Much | rpm -i package right? |
| 16:00:32 | raptor | rpm -U |
| 16:00:35 | raptor | -U is update |
| 16:00:43 | raptor | since you already have it installed |
| 16:01:56 | raptor | i still can't believe how bare-bones centos 6 is |
| 16:02:47 | Nothing_Much | woot! |
| 16:02:50 | Nothing_Much | it worked! |
| 16:02:52 | raptor | yay! |
| 16:03:03 | Nothing_Much | alright, now to uh.. |
| 16:03:07 | raptor | build! |
| 16:03:22 | raptor | cd the build directory do: cmake .. |
| 16:03:54 | raptor | then: make bitfighterd |
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| 16:18:34 | Nothing_Much | how do I copy a directory? |
| 16:19:22 | raptor | cp -a |
| 16:19:36 | raptor | cp -a directory destination |
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| 16:27:50 | Watusimoto | not cp -r? |
| 16:28:34 | raptor | hi |
| 16:28:45 | raptor | cp -a preserves timestamps/etc. |
| 16:30:07 | raptor | Watusimoto: lots is done on the release checklist, but board.net is being stupid for me |
| 16:30:16 | Nothing_Much | okay so how do I redo the make |
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| 16:30:27 | Nothing_Much | because when I removed the levels folderr |
| 16:30:34 | Nothing_Much | it removed bitfighterd for some reason |
| 16:30:43 | raptor | uhh |
| 16:30:55 | raptor | you did the command wrong or you are in the wrong directory |
| 16:31:05 | raptor | go back to the build directory |
| 16:31:08 | raptor | and do: make |
| 16:31:10 | raptor | sorry |
| 16:31:16 | raptor | this: make bitfighterd |
| 16:31:30 | raptor | pay attention to any erros |
| 16:31:42 | Watusimoto | I couldn't update board.net from work or home |
| 16:31:53 | Watusimoto | I think it's on strike or taking a siesta or something |
| 16:31:53 | raptor | yeah, it's being stupid |
| 16:34:40 | raptor | let's do it the old fashioned way... |
| 16:38:36 | raptor | 1-15 done |
| 16:38:53 | raptor | except 15c |
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| 16:46:26 | Watusimoto | ok, that's a big chunk |
| 16:49:46 | raptor | i'll do 18 (forums post) |
| 16:51:27 | Nothing_Much | are the .deb's ready for download? |
| 16:54:17 | raptor | 18 done |
| 16:54:19 | raptor | yes |
| 16:54:21 | raptor | the debs are |
| 16:54:25 | raptor | RPMs are almost done |
| 16:55:19 | raptor | actually RPMs are done now, too |
| 16:56:35 | raptor | Watusimoto: you should see my new table on the downloads page, I think it simplifies things |
| 16:56:51 | raptor | but I can't seem to get dividers between the OS rows working |
| 16:57:14 | Nothing_Much | the debs aren't there |
| 16:57:35 | raptor | what? |
| 16:57:46 | Nothing_Much | maybe you mixed the rpms for the debs |
| 16:57:51 | Nothing_Much | the rpms show 019b |
| 16:57:56 | Nothing_Much | the debs show 019a |
| 16:58:08 | raptor | http://bitfighter.org/files/releases/linux/debian/ |
| 16:58:10 | raptor | refresh |
| 16:58:12 | raptor | i see 019b |
| 16:58:31 | Nothing_Much | there we go |
| 16:58:37 | raptor | ok phoew! |
| 16:58:43 | raptor | those debs require a lot of work! |
| 17:03:43 | Nothing_Much | new problem, can't login as owner of server |
| 17:04:58 | raptor | you need to add the 'standalone.txt' file to the exe dir |
| 17:05:06 | raptor | run: touch standalone.txt |
| 17:05:15 | raptor | then it will load your INI from that folder |
| 17:05:20 | raptor | instead of your home dir |
| 17:07:47 | Nothing_Much | still not workin' |
| 17:07:59 | Nothing_Much | do I need to restart the VPS? |
| 17:08:08 | raptor | you have to shutdown the old bitfigher server |
| 17:08:14 | raptor | you can do: killall bitfighterd |
| 17:08:22 | raptor | then restart it with the proper INI |
| 17:09:27 | Nothing_Much | oh I got it |
| 17:09:36 | Nothing_Much | forgot to change from the resource to the exe dir |
| 17:10:00 | Nothing_Much | oh darn! |
| 17:10:02 | Nothing_Much | still not working |
| 17:12:07 | Nothing_Much | oh wait |
| 17:13:22 | Nothing_Much | dammit, thought I figured out the problem |
| 17:13:59 | raptor | ok, let's go through the things you need |
| 17:14:05 | raptor | in exe directory |
| 17:14:10 | raptor | of your new build |
| 17:14:17 | raptor | do you have the following?: |
| 17:14:20 | raptor | 1. standalone.txt |
| 17:14:30 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 17:14:32 | raptor | 2. levels scripts robots |
| 17:14:38 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 17:14:40 | raptor | 3. bitfighter.ini |
| 17:14:42 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 17:14:57 | raptor | and in the bitfighter.ini, you have the owner password set? |
| 17:15:01 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 17:15:08 | Watusimoto | sorry... was awk |
| 17:15:10 | Watusimoto | afk |
| 17:15:14 | Watusimoto | or something |
| 17:15:26 | raptor | grok sed |
| 17:15:33 | raptor | Nothing_Much: ok and is the server runnign now? |
| 17:15:36 | Nothing_Much | yes |
| 17:15:45 | raptor | ok, kill it: killall bitfighterd |
| 17:15:53 | raptor | and verify it isn't running |
| 17:15:54 | Nothing_Much | alright |
| 17:15:56 | Nothing_Much | oh uh |
| 17:16:02 | Nothing_Much | the startup script is there |
| 17:16:07 | Nothing_Much | so let me reboot the server |
| 17:16:13 | raptor | no no |
| 17:16:20 | raptor | no need for a full reboot |
| 17:16:27 | raptor | verify the server is shut off |
| 17:16:35 | Nothing_Much | well okay, but it'll restart as soon as it's killed |
| 17:16:44 | raptor | ah... |
| 17:17:01 | Nothing_Much | killall bitfighterd has been entere |
| 17:17:02 | raptor | then is the start up script pointing to the right location? |
| 17:17:02 | Nothing_Much | d |
| 17:17:12 | Nothing_Much | as far as I know, yes |
| 17:18:08 | raptor | ok, you need to kill that start up script - do you know how to find its PID in the process list and kill it? |
| 17:18:24 | Nothing_Much | ps ax |
| 17:18:43 | raptor | excellent, kill the scipt, then kill the server |
| 17:18:47 | raptor | then check your INI again |
| 17:18:49 | Nothing_Much | and killall start_server.sh? |
| 17:18:56 | raptor | yes |
| 17:20:29 | raptor | i think the issue is that you're editing the INI when its in use, which means it gets overwritten when the server shuts down |
| 17:20:46 | Nothing_Much | oh my |
| 17:23:33 | Nothing_Much | there we go |
| 17:23:35 | Nothing_Much | thanks! |
| 17:23:39 | raptor | yay |
| 17:24:18 | Nothing_Much | and now that mercurial is updated, now it should be simpler right? |
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| 17:24:45 | raptor | yes |
| 17:24:56 | raptor | in the future you would do: |
| 17:24:58 | raptor | hg pull |
| 17:25:03 | raptor | hg up bitfighter-020 |
| 17:25:06 | raptor | cd build |
| 17:25:08 | raptor | make |
| 17:25:13 | raptor | and your done! |
| 17:25:26 | raptor | no messing with resources - just pull the new revision and compile it |
| 17:25:57 | Nothing_Much | sweet! |
| 17:41:31 | | raptor changes topic to 'Welcome everyone! Feel free to ask anything! | Bitfighter 019b released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads | Forums http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | Channel logs http://bitfighter.org/irclogs/' |
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| 18:28:41 | bobdaduck | When should I try to re-host my party? |
| 18:29:01 | bobdaduck | kaen: raptor helped me fix the router issue where you couldn't join my server last night |
| 18:29:12 | YoshiSmb | next morning? |
| 18:29:18 | bobdaduck | I had "port clashing" or something like that. |
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| 18:58:43 | raptor | Watusimoto: I figure I'd let you do the marketing stuff for the release |
| 18:58:54 | raptor | i'll do desura next |
| 19:06:31 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 19:06:38 | Watusimoto | yes, that's fine |
| 19:06:51 | Watusimoto | I just spent such a long time making your table easier to read |
| 19:07:04 | Watusimoto | html/css really is a hacky system |
| 19:07:17 | Watusimoto | clearly not designed by programmers |
| 19:08:03 | Watusimoto | will people know what "standalone" means in the Linux context? |
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| 19:25:07 | Watusimoto | raptor: do you know anything about where drupal stuff is stored in the database? |
| 19:25:24 | raptor | bf_drupal |
| 19:25:41 | raptor | yes, linux people have a greater vocabulary |
| 19:26:26 | Watusimoto | ah, the bf_stats user probably doesn't have permissions, which is why I'm not seeing it |
| 19:26:37 | Watusimoto | let me try admin |
| 19:26:39 | raptor | nope! |
| 19:27:48 | raptor | check you bitfighter.org ssh session |
| 19:28:12 | Watusimoto | ??? |
| 19:28:32 | raptor | i sent you user/pass in your ssh session on bitfighter.org |
| 19:28:52 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 19:28:53 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 19:29:12 | Watusimoto | I use a password manager to keep things straight, and I have many entries with that user name |
| 19:29:21 | Watusimoto | which makes things confusing :-) |
| 19:29:25 | raptor | haha |
| 19:30:12 | Watusimoto | I am trying to kill that annoying white line |
| 19:30:13 | raptor | also, I hate drupal |
| 19:30:19 | Watusimoto | I think it is a malformed drupal entry |
| 19:30:33 | raptor | i tried for half an hour last night to get a border on a <tr> |
| 19:30:43 | Watusimoto | I got it |
| 19:30:46 | Watusimoto | the border on the tr |
| 19:30:52 | Watusimoto | if we're talking about the same tr |
| 19:30:55 | Watusimoto | that needed a border |
| 19:30:58 | raptor | everything kept being overridden |
| 19:31:04 | raptor | downloads table, between the OSes |
| 19:31:11 | Watusimoto | take a look at that page |
| 19:31:22 | raptor | oh yay! |
| 19:31:25 | raptor | how? |
| 19:31:37 | Watusimoto | it was easy, aside from the fact that css is totally stupid |
| 19:31:55 | Watusimoto | /var/www/html/sites/all/themes/zubrick/style.css |
| 19:32:00 | Watusimoto | just added some lines in there |
| 19:32:12 | Watusimoto | the fact that you used a table within a table made it uglier |
| 19:32:15 | raptor | ohhh... you found the drupal style... |
| 19:32:29 | raptor | but it's aggregated nicely! |
| 19:32:30 | Watusimoto | yes, and I created a link in my home folder |
| 19:32:38 | Watusimoto | the css is really ugly |
| 19:32:51 | Watusimoto | though the result is nice |
| 19:33:22 | raptor | notice how i added divs with ids everywhere |
| 19:33:28 | raptor | to make it easier |
| 19:33:29 | Watusimoto | yes, that made it easier |
| 19:33:51 | raptor | what is this!?: #downloads > tbody > tr > td > table > tbody > tr > td { border: none; } |
| 19:33:59 | Watusimoto | that turns off the borders on that inner table |
| 19:34:04 | raptor | is that to remove the inner... ah ok |
| 19:34:16 | raptor | i've never used the '>' before in CSS |
| 19:34:38 | Watusimoto | the css is hacky, but if we stick with the layout, it will be fine |
| 19:34:54 | raptor | i would have done something like: #downloads td.table { border: none; } |
| 19:35:44 | Watusimoto | maybe that would be better |
| 19:35:47 | raptor | oh hey, we can merge now! |
| 19:35:52 | Watusimoto | I tried a bunch of things before I found one that worked |
| 19:35:52 | raptor | do you have commits pending a push? |
| 19:35:57 | Watusimoto | yes, several |
| 19:36:01 | Watusimoto | I can push them now though |
| 19:36:04 | raptor | can yo please push? |
| 19:36:09 | raptor | ok, thanks |
| 19:36:24 | raptor | then i'll clean up and get us all on LuaJIT! |
| 19:36:51 | | BFLogBot Commit: 1644dbf9690e | Author: watusimoto | Message: Magic number go bye bye |
| 19:36:52 | Watusimoto | do you want me to merge anything? |
| 19:36:52 | | BFLogBot Commit: 56fc6b8e1834 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Whitespace |
| 19:36:54 | | BFLogBot Commit: 90c26e70b99e | Author: watusimoto | Message: Rewrite getLevelInfoFromCodeChunk to be clearer, not mung the passed value, and got a 2x speed increase on top of it all |
| 19:36:55 | | BFLogBot Commit: ba0227f6120b | Author: watusimoto | Message: Line endings ? |
| 19:36:57 | | BFLogBot Commit: 650c7e424dda | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix tests |
| 19:36:58 | | BFLogBot Commit: 3192d07c0ec1 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Likely improvement to performance (less copying things around in memory), with very little impact on readability |
| 19:37:00 | | BFLogBot Commit: 3adf0ac84382 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Make LevelSource tests more scalable |
| 19:37:01 | | BFLogBot Commit: ecb777f1528b | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix tests |
| 19:37:10 | raptor | that's it? |
| 19:37:13 | Watusimoto | yup |
| 19:37:30 | raptor | ok, please stand by while I reduce our improbability engine... |
| 19:37:34 | Watusimoto | expecting more? |
| 19:37:35 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 19:44:09 | YoshiSmb | im freaking shocked how fast is the download on here. O_o |
| 19:44:32 | Nothing_Much | YoshiSmb: how fast did it download? |
| 19:45:01 | YoshiSmb | File: SetupHL.rar / Size: 247 MB |
| 19:45:12 | Nothing_Much | HL? |
| 19:45:33 | YoshiSmb | it's download very fast / 1mbs |
| 19:45:37 | YoshiSmb | Half-Life |
| 19:46:02 | | Nothing_Much Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 19:46:15 | YoshiSmb | so fast he exit? |
| 19:46:20 | YoshiSmb | wonder why he asked |
| 19:51:19 | Watusimoto | he ran off to grab half life, obviously :-) |
| 19:53:09 | YoshiSmb | yea, it's a game made by valve |
| 19:54:23 | YoshiSmb | i just bough CS1.6 pod-bot by piroca, and then i patched it with another no steam, with mods, (2 are broken so i removed them by hand, :P) |
| 19:54:29 | YoshiSmb | *bought |
| 19:54:51 | YoshiSmb | mods: HL,Richochet,DMC,TFC |
| 19:55:14 | YoshiSmb | it's took me a couple of days to patch them with bots, :P |
| 19:55:17 | YoshiSmb | really easy |
| 19:56:10 | YoshiSmb | <Watusimoto> he ran off to grab half life, obviously :-) / you mean he just went to google it? |
| 19:58:37 | Watusimoto | I'm not really a gamer, myself |
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| 20:04:26 | Watusimoto | that white line is driving me crazy! |
| 20:04:39 | Watusimoto | it looks like it's an unpublished node, but it's not in the nodes table |
| 20:04:51 | Watusimoto | and when I print out all the ids of all the rendered nodes, it doesn;t get one |
| 20:05:06 | kaen | that's nutty |
| 20:05:19 | Watusimoto | I'm tempted to nuke it with css |
| 20:05:25 | Watusimoto | but that's the wrong answer |
| 20:08:24 | Watusimoto | but boy am I tempted |
| 20:11:18 | Watusimoto | here';s a new idea for a gametype |
| 20:11:29 | Watusimoto | it's a variant on retrieve |
| 20:11:39 | Watusimoto | basically you have a goal and put flags in it |
| 20:11:51 | Watusimoto | but new flags are released every 20 seconds (or whatever) |
| 20:12:02 | Watusimoto | you can carry multiple flags, but the more you carry, the slower you go |
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| 20:18:43 | YoshiSmb | ¿? |
| 20:18:54 | YoshiSmb | ¿Gamemode? |
| 20:21:15 | YoshiSmb | - [17:11] <Watusimoto> you can carry multiple flags, but the more you carry, the slower you go / is this new? |
| 20:21:30 | Watusimoto | it's an idea for a new game type |
| 20:21:33 | Watusimoto | it's not implemented |
| 20:21:54 | YoshiSmb | there's is a topic about it? |
| 20:21:56 | Watusimoto | no |
| 20:22:25 | YoshiSmb | ok, so, what is the name of the gamemode? |
| 20:22:51 | Watusimoto | not sure |
| 20:23:22 | YoshiSmb | last question: what is the goal here? |
| 20:30:45 | raptor | we determined I can close the lua53 branch? |
| 20:30:48 | raptor | 52 |
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| 20:41:27 | Watusimoto | that was the branch to integrate to lua 52, whcih is now superseded by luajit? |
| 20:42:18 | raptor | yes |
| 20:43:01 | Watusimoto | sure |
| 20:43:32 | Nothing_Much | http://i.imgur.com/EIQTF8d.png look at the downloads! |
| 20:44:11 | Watusimoto | nice, eh? |
| 20:44:51 | Nothing_Much | it's a negative |
| 20:44:55 | Nothing_Much | o.o |
| 20:44:59 | Watusimoto | why? |
| 20:45:21 | Watusimoto | oh, that |
| 20:45:49 | Watusimoto | well, it's gone now |
| 20:45:58 | Watusimoto | I was trying to diagnose a problem and added that number |
| 20:46:14 | Nothing_Much | ah |
| 20:46:16 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 20:46:25 | Watusimoto | it was only up for a minute |
| 20:47:48 | Nothing_Much | must've caught it at the right time :D |
| 20:47:55 | kaen | whoa! |
| 20:48:01 | kaen | we overflowed a 32bit integer |
| 20:48:11 | Nothing_Much | where? |
| 20:48:18 | kaen | I'm just playing :P |
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| 20:51:16 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 20:56:28 | raptor | here she comes! |
| 20:56:39 | | BFLogBot Commit: 24be0fdac338 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Merge in some of the 019b fixes and features, as well as watusimoto's refactoring of md5 utils and level loading code |
| 20:56:40 | | BFLogBot Commit: bc7900b7e879 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Merge in the rest of 019b changes. We have normality |
| 20:56:43 | | BFLogBot Commit: a59e7694c6c2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Closing lua52 branch since we've moved to LuaJIT |
| 21:04:19 | raptor | we now have a single tip! |
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| 21:06:47 | kaen | hi |
| 21:07:02 | raptor | hi |
| 21:07:47 | kaen | tracking down a heisenbug right now |
| 21:08:15 | kaen | had to drop a gdbserver binary onto the tablet, forward a tcp port, and remote debug it |
| 21:09:13 | Nothing_Much | Hi lesles |
| 21:10:21 | kaen | oh fun |
| 21:10:38 | kaen | null pointerexception inside of this binary blob they handed me |
| 21:10:38 | | raptor looks up definition of 'heisenbug' |
| 21:10:44 | raptor | ah |
| 21:11:06 | kaen | seems like it only happens with one particular screen orientation |
| 21:11:10 | kaen | this is nuts |
| 21:13:06 | kaen | bonkers, one might say. |
| 21:13:37 | raptor | sometimes valgrind can pick up weird things |
| 21:13:45 | raptor | but not sure if that's even an option for you |
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| 21:15:31 | Watusimoto | can we run valgrid on the website? |
| 21:15:45 | raptor | rm -rf / |
| 21:16:14 | Watusimoto | ah ha! The item is also listed in the rss feed |
| 21:16:26 | Watusimoto | and there I do get a publication date |
| 21:16:35 | Watusimoto | Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 |
| 21:16:41 | Nothing_Much | don't post that raptor! |
| 21:20:44 | raptor | maybe it's a backdoor |
| 21:23:24 | kaen | wow |
| 21:23:31 | kaen | just disassembled this blob |
| 21:23:37 | kaen | this binary driver they sent me |
| 21:23:39 | kaen | with no doc |
| 21:23:44 | kaen | not even a .h file |
| 21:24:04 | kaen | it just opens a /dev/ file and writes 16/32/64 to it |
| 21:42:38 | Watusimoto | whate bar gone |
| 21:43:00 | raptor | gone? |
| 21:43:13 | raptor | hooray! |
| 21:43:25 | raptor | i spent an hour on that once and decided i had better things to do with my life |
| 21:49:07 | Watusimoto | yes I did too |
| 21:49:35 | Watusimoto | There is a "node" renderer and I added a check that tells it not to render "invalid" nodes |
| 21:50:03 | Watusimoto | I think the real problem is in the database, but I could not figure that out |
| 21:50:10 | Watusimoto | every item was properly accounted for |
| 21:50:17 | Watusimoto | *that I could find |
| 21:54:10 | raptor | lovely |
| 21:57:15 | raptor | i'm warming up to the idea of having just static html |
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| 22:14:52 | Watusimoto | yes -- we've discussed that, and I would be ok with it |
| 22:15:02 | Watusimoto | we could use the rendered html as a starting point |
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| 22:16:49 | amgine123 | BITFIGHTER>ORG IS DOWN! |
| 22:17:07 | amgine123 | lots of pages on www.bitfighter.org dont load properly for me |
| 22:17:53 | amgine123 | like downloads screenshots get involved live chat ..... |
| 22:18:03 | amgine123 | ocntact are all busted |
| 22:20:09 | Watusimoto | it's not down just being b0rked |
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| 22:41:08 | amgine123 | borked? |
| 22:44:02 | Watusimoto | not any more |
| 22:44:33 | Watusimoto | uh... our contact section is b0rked still |
| 22:49:38 | kaen | lots of randoms through the IRC channel the last few days |
| 22:49:40 | kaen | I like it. |
| 22:54:17 | Watusimoto | contact is fixed |
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| 23:13:00 | fordcars_deb | I am in! |
| 23:20:39 | Watusimoto | good night! |
| 23:23:47 | vs73nx | good night Watusimoto |
| 23:24:32 | kaen | looks like you're running an irc client as root, fordcars_deb |
| 23:24:44 | kaen | typically not a great idea ... |
| 23:24:51 | fordcars_deb | Sorry, I just apt-got it |
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| 23:24:59 | fordcars_deb | exiy |
| 23:24:59 | kaen | heh you don't have to apologize :P |
| 23:25:04 | fordcars_deb | Hehehehe |
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| 23:25:17 | kaen | canadians, man |
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| 23:26:57 | fordcars_deb | I am trying to setup GRUB to dual boot with Windows |
| 23:28:51 | vs73nx | nice, when you do it tell me how you did it |
| 23:29:02 | vs73nx | i never got it working very well |
| 23:29:29 | fordcars_deb | Heh |
| 23:29:42 | fordcars_deb | I am reading the docs over grub.org |
| 23:29:57 | vs73nx | ok |
| 23:30:01 | fordcars_deb | Says I got to modify 40_custom with a new menu entry |
| 23:30:42 | vs73nx | ooh grub config files. this is going to be fun |
| 23:33:45 | fordcars_deb | Hehe yep |
| 23:46:34 | fordcars_deb | Food time, later! |
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