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| 00:14:23 | fordcars | raptor: what kind of music are you looking for? |
| 00:14:32 | fordcars | Dramatic? |
| 00:15:00 | fordcars | Oh, well I guess you can wait for the dude to reply |
| 00:15:49 | raptor | i was thinking of just removing it for now |
| 00:16:47 | fordcars | Okokok |
| 00:17:07 | fordcars | I don't think there would be any objections for the sake of debian |
| 00:17:54 | raptor | yeah... the goal is to just get the game in... |
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| 01:32:23 | Nothing_Much | What'd I miss? |
| 01:33:47 | Nothing_Much | woop |
| 01:35:48 | Nothing_Much | kaen: did raptor get a response to the guy who made the menu music? |
| 01:35:55 | Nothing_Much | Watusimoto, sam686, anyone? |
| 01:36:04 | Watusimoto | no one |
| 01:36:10 | Nothing_Much | oh darn |
| 01:43:10 | sam686 | HI |
| 01:43:58 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 01:52:39 | fordcars | Hi |
| 01:52:59 | Nothing_Much | He |
| 01:53:07 | Nothing_Much | c-ccoaco0mbo braker |
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| 01:54:39 | fordcars | Exactly |
| 01:55:27 | fordcars | Welp, I better go to bed |
| 01:55:37 | fordcars | Night!\ |
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| 01:55:56 | Nothing_Much | l8r fordie |
| 03:45:40 | | BFLogBot Commit: 424d37ead9 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Fix (at least) 2 editor hard crashes due to improperly intialized UI objects |
| 04:52:56 | | BFLogBot Commit: 1d414c2b82 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Trial solution to editor glitch of rotation a Z shaped wall not working well |
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| 13:10:55 | watusimoto1 | good morning all! |
| 13:11:03 | watusimoto1 | raptor: I saw your questions last night |
| 13:11:25 | watusimoto1 | did you ever look at the suggested replacement font list I made? |
| 13:11:41 | watusimoto1 | and I am ok for releasing without menu music if we can't get the license issue sorted out |
| 13:12:56 | raptor | watusimoto1: there was a lot of font conversation... and some CPU intensive graphics i look at... but i don't remember a decision |
| 13:13:08 | raptor | good morning! |
| 13:14:19 | raptor | which font was it? |
| 13:20:07 | raptor | oh a list... let me review the logs again |
| 13:21:07 | raptor | watusimoto1: this list?: http://hastebin.com/igijuvexel.txt |
| 13:25:00 | Nothing_Much | raptor: did you get a response to the maker of the menu music? |
| 13:25:08 | Nothing_Much | response from* |
| 13:25:10 | raptor | nope, and it's been one week now |
| 13:25:17 | raptor | maybe i'll try to contact via another site |
| 13:27:13 | Nothing_Much | good luck |
| 13:27:18 | Nothing_Much | 1 week already? O.O |
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| 13:36:17 | Nothing_Much | Wow, time really does fly when you're working and older! |
| 13:40:19 | raptor | haha |
| 13:40:38 | Nothing_Much | I feel like it should be last Friday at school by now |
| 13:40:51 | Nothing_Much | But right now is today, and I have to get ready for work in 15 |
| 14:09:10 | watusimoto1 | raptor: yes, that list |
| 14:09:54 | raptor | i'm finding few of these fonts in my debian vm... i wonder where kaen got them? |
| 14:10:01 | watusimoto1 | those are the ones that looked ok when paging through the hundreds of fonts on the list |
| 14:10:18 | raptor | as a replacement for modern-vision? |
| 14:10:19 | watusimoto1 | I think there were only one or two that would make the final cut |
| 14:10:43 | watusimoto1 | yes -- I was looking for a headliney type font |
| 14:11:28 | raptor | ok |
| 14:12:19 | watusimoto1 | ok, aborigonal is out |
| 14:13:13 | watusimoto1 | Acknowledgement font is out |
| 14:14:18 | watusimoto1 | KeyRidgealt is out |
| 14:15:23 | watusimoto1 | MathJax_Typerwriter is out |
| 14:17:51 | watusimoto1 | new list: http://hastebin.com/lojebivilu.txt |
| 14:18:43 | watusimoto1 | those all look interesting in isolation... the question is would any look good would play, and/or be better than just using play itself? (or are any better than play for general use?) |
| 14:19:01 | watusimoto1 | ^^ "would play" ==> "with play" |
| 14:20:07 | watusimoto1 | apparently zrnic is vry similar to the font used in the Playstation 2 logo |
| 14:20:38 | raptor | now the question is if i can find them in debian.. |
| 14:20:46 | watusimoto1 | kaen did :-) |
| 14:20:58 | raptor | oh? |
| 14:21:06 | watusimoto1 | that's where the list came from |
| 14:21:09 | raptor | ok, i was worried he got them from his ubuntu machine |
| 14:21:34 | watusimoto1 | I thought he was working from a debian list... that was the whole point of the exercize |
| 14:21:57 | watusimoto1 | he did a first list that had all lame fonts, then said he found more |
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| 14:30:46 | watusimoto | I'm me again!! |
| 14:31:36 | raptor | hmm... ok |
| 14:47:49 | raptor | ok, i am downloading every conceivable font into my debian VM insearch of these... |
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| 15:21:06 | watusimoto | are you thinking we want to do another 19x release? |
| 15:21:25 | watusimoto | because one of my fixes last night probably affects 019x |
| 15:21:33 | watusimoto | and could be fairly easily backported |
| 15:21:41 | watusimoto | though it's hardly a critical error |
| 15:25:48 | raptor | i'm thinking yes... slowly |
| 15:26:03 | raptor | sam686 and I have been committing fixes to 019 then merging them back into 020 |
| 15:26:13 | raptor | so we have a marker where we work off |
| 15:26:31 | raptor | I can backport fixes on any revision you think would be good |
| 15:26:46 | watusimoto | ok; it has to do with rotating a z-shaped wall |
| 15:26:55 | raptor | oh.... you fixed that!? |
| 15:27:04 | watusimoto | the centroid is not caluclated properly for that shape, and the rotation goes all over the place |
| 15:27:09 | raptor | i attempted that on 2 different occasions and just left it... |
| 15:27:21 | watusimoto | yeah, it's mostly fixed now |
| 15:27:24 | watusimoto | well, totally fixed |
| 15:27:29 | watusimoto | but still messy |
| 15:27:30 | raptor | 'mostly'.. oh ok |
| 15:27:52 | watusimoto | the solution was, when rotating walls, to create a convex hull around the wall, and find centroid of that |
| 15:28:03 | watusimoto | seems to work pretty well |
| 15:28:21 | watusimoto | my hull solution is not the most efficient, but is probably good enough |
| 15:28:31 | watusimoto | and can be upgraded later without much fuss |
| 15:28:47 | watusimoto | I'm going to add some tests for it, which will make upgrade even easier |
| 15:29:09 | watusimoto | (test data is easy to come by, so I'll grab some examples from code demos) |
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| 16:50:57 | raptor | kaen! |
| 16:51:03 | kaen | hi! |
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| 16:52:08 | raptor | So, I'm attempting to link against another debian font |
| 16:52:31 | raptor | but I cannot find many of those fonts in your graphic (that watusimoto said were good candidates to replace modern-vision) |
| 16:52:43 | raptor | I've been installing fonts like mad |
| 16:52:52 | kaen | gah |
| 16:52:54 | raptor | in debian jessie (testing) |
| 16:53:12 | raptor | and I want to export an image like yours from what I have - how did you create it? |
| 16:53:50 | kaen | http://pastie.org/9866448 |
| 16:53:59 | kaen | will generate it from every font you have installed |
| 16:54:25 | kaen | (I installed fonts-* and ttf-*) |
| 16:54:35 | raptor | yes |
| 16:54:36 | kaen | oh, it only looks at ttf and otf fonts |
| 16:54:39 | raptor | in debian? |
| 16:54:49 | kaen | ubuntu 14.04, might have a better selection |
| 16:55:05 | kaen | I was hoping there wouldn't be too much divergence |
| 16:55:10 | watusimoto | ah, I see... not all those fonts on the last list were Debian approved? |
| 16:55:10 | raptor | ah... i bet ubuntu has fonts that debian doesn't allow... |
| 16:55:11 | kaen | any specific ones you couldn't find |
| 16:55:14 | kaen | ? |
| 16:55:34 | raptor | so far... all of them except 'Forcible' |
| 16:55:42 | kaen | :| |
| 16:55:50 | kaen | I'll check the logs |
| 16:55:53 | raptor | from this list watusimoto build: http://hastebin.com/lojebivilu.txt |
| 16:56:04 | raptor | i'll do the crazy imagemagick thing |
| 16:58:24 | raptor | debian uses 'iceweasel' instead of 'firefox' |
| 17:00:44 | kaen | iirc the ff branding is trademarked :P |
| 17:01:23 | raptor | ha! icedove is thunderbird |
| 17:02:21 | watusimoto | hey kaen, when you get a chance, could you rerun your font generation script to list only fonts in my hastebin list, and make the list larger? The only catch is that the names I supplied may not be the exact ones the font is called, but since there are only 12, it might not be so onerous |
| 17:02:28 | raptor | and... awk is the old unix one and not 'gawk' |
| 17:02:31 | raptor | weird |
| 17:02:54 | watusimoto | awk... no wonder linux never took off with the masses |
| 17:03:06 | raptor | oh no - debian has awk pointing to 'mawk' |
| 17:03:33 | watusimoto | is awk short for "awkward"? |
| 17:06:32 | kaen | only one font on that list is actually in debian main: http://hastebin.com/ipariceguj.1c |
| 17:06:48 | kaen | the rest are in a non-free package: https://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/fonts-larabie |
| 17:07:02 | raptor | here is debian fonts: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/1font-ttf.png |
| 17:07:05 | raptor | 6 MB |
| 17:07:29 | raptor | there are a lot more there |
| 17:07:38 | raptor | so i can do a reverse file -> package search |
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| 17:54:50 | raptor | I have blasphemed my debian distro: I installed modern-vision |
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| 18:02:52 | kaen | I like jawbreakerheadliBRK |
| 18:03:21 | raptor | this one has modern-vision in it for reference: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/2font-ttf.png |
| 18:03:52 | kaen | good addition |
| 18:04:45 | kaen | mishmash family looks promising |
| 18:05:02 | kaen | a little eccentric maybe |
| 18:06:07 | kaen | seems unlikely that "perfect dark" is legal... but it would fit our theme I think |
| 18:07:43 | kaen | ooooooh |
| 18:07:52 | kaen | "Underwhelmed" |
| 18:07:56 | kaen | looks great |
| 18:08:06 | kaen | they even have filled and outline variants |
| 18:08:39 | kaen | "unexplored galaxies" too |
| 18:09:57 | kaen | "visitortt1BRK" is a departure from our style, but definitely looks retro and headline-y |
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| 18:20:40 | watusimoto | perfectdark is cool, but probably too hard to real |
| 18:20:42 | watusimoto | read |
| 18:21:21 | watusimoto | underwhelemed too |
| 18:22:49 | kaen | these headlines are a bit smaller than they'll be in the UI though, right? aren't they ~ half size? |
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| 18:23:46 | watusimoto | probably so |
| 18:23:54 | kaen | raptor, when you get a chance can you regenerate with -pointsize 36? |
| 18:24:07 | watusimoto | what is the problem with modern vision? not free, or not in debian (but otherwise ok) |
| 18:24:12 | kaen | I had turned it down before because I was exceeding the max dimensions... |
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| 18:27:23 | raptor | kaen: is that a convert command? |
| 18:27:43 | kaen | in the script, there's a "-pointsize 18" flag |
| 18:27:49 | raptor | ohhhh |
| 18:27:51 | raptor | ok |
| 18:27:53 | raptor | yeah i'll change it |
| 18:27:59 | kaen | oh |
| 18:28:09 | kaen | man, you'll have to change some other numbers too.... |
| 18:28:15 | kaen | I'll re-paste |
| 18:28:30 | raptor | thanks :) |
| 18:29:37 | kaen | http://pastie.org/9866628 |
| 18:29:43 | kaen | it might even run :P |
| 18:29:49 | kaen | I broke out the constants though |
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| 19:21:59 | raptor | hi, sorry, in training... let me do this now |
| 19:23:25 | raptor | i made minor changes, like converting to grayscale and only doing TTF files |
| 19:26:33 | raptor | CPU churning... |
| 19:41:51 | raptor | oh man |
| 19:42:29 | raptor | openSUSE 13.2 + VMware 10 + debian jessie + iceweasel + 12MB MB PNG created from fonts == crash |
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| 19:42:59 | raptor | so i have it finally (12 MB): http://sam6.25u.com/upload/2font-ttf.png |
| 19:43:02 | raptor | OOPS |
| 19:43:04 | raptor | NOT THAT ONE |
| 19:43:10 | raptor | THIS ONE: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/3font-ttf.png |
| 19:43:17 | raptor | ^^ THIS ONE |
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| 19:43:29 | raptor | ok, heading home... later! |
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| 20:25:01 | kaen | "FreakTurbulnceBRK" |
| 20:27:25 | kaen | "KinKaidBRK" |
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